Game of Thrones on HBO: non-book thread (1 Viewer)

[B-Deep]

someone should start a new thread

GOT TV show, no spoilers from the books but with acknowledgment of their existence

 

[shadyridr]

What's the problem shady

Youre asking a question about the books in the non-book thread

 

[B-Deep]

What's the problem shady

Youre asking a question about the books in the non-book thread

but this thread does acknoweldge that books do exist, therefore his question may be acceptable

we need a ruling

 

[KarmaPolice]

It's a really good show. I don't want anyone to screw it up for me. Not sure why this is so hard to understand.

its not, but there is a huge difference between not wanting to be spoiled and flipping your #### at the mere mention of the books. I don't think anything has been spoiled in here, but it has gotten to the point where a comment that won't effect the viewing whatsoever- something like "sam is a bit different in the books" will start up about 3 pages back and forth of #####ing.

 

[KarmaPolice]

we need a ruling

not really- it is only about 4 people with their panties in a wad

 

[Wyld Stallyns]

So that Bolton guy w/the chainmail under his clothes - he's from the North, right? Seems like he might be in line to be the new King of the North as the Boltons replace the Starks moving forward.

Also, I'm starting to think this entire series is about Tyrion. It pretends that it is about the Starks and the Dragon Momma and other people, but at the end of the day I bet it's going to end up being a big long story about a midget who ####s up his daddy's ####.

 

[UniAlias]

It's a really good show. I don't want anyone to screw it up for me. Not sure why this is so hard to understand.

its not, but there is a huge difference between not wanting to be spoiled and flipping your #### at the mere mention of the books. I don't think anything has been spoiled in here, but it has gotten to the point where a comment that won't effect the viewing whatsoever- something like "sam is a bit different in the books" will start up about 3 pages back and forth of #####ing.

For me it's not so much about spoiling the show, but spoiling the books. "Sam is a bit different in the books" is fairly minor, but when people go into great detail about past storylines from the books it kinda sucks because I want to read about that myself. It just seems like that talk can be saved for the specific book thread and everyone will be happy.I'm probably just better off avoiding this cluster-#### of a thread but I can't help it.

 

[KarmaPolice]

So, was that the best episode of GoT yet? Blackwater? The episode this year where Dany slaughtered the slavers with the dragons and her new army? Ned's death episide?

i thought overall it was, they all have had holy #### moments but the tension was great

Agreed. Besides the Wedding, it was the coolest Bran's story has been in a long time. Jon had a major turning point and Dany's crew got to tear it up.

agree on bran. they have done zilch all season with him. good to know that what he can do is above and beyond normal warging. also personally glad to see the split off of osha and rickon.

 

[B-Deep]

It's a really good show. I don't want anyone to screw it up for me. Not sure why this is so hard to understand.

its not, but there is a huge difference between not wanting to be spoiled and flipping your #### at the mere mention of the books.I don't think anything has been spoiled in here, but it has gotten to the point where a comment that won't effect the viewing whatsoever- something like "sam is a bit different in the books" will start up about 3 pages back and forth of #####ing.

For me it's not so much about spoiling the show, but spoiling the books. "Sam is a bit different in the books" is fairly minor, but when people go into great detail about past storylines from the books it kinda sucks because I want to read about that myself. It just seems like that talk can be saved for the specific book thread and everyone will be happy.I'm probably just better off avoiding this cluster-#### of a thread but I can't help it.

the majority of the big events from the books are gonna be spoiled by the show, not by discussions in here

 

[Ilov80s]

So that Bolton guy w/the chainmail under his clothes - he's from the North, right? Seems like he might be in line to be the new King of the North as the Boltons replace the Starks moving forward.Also, I'm starting to think this entire series is about Tyrion. It pretends that it is about the Starks and the Dragon Momma and other people, but at the end of the day I bet it's going to end up being a big long story about a midget who ####s up his daddy's ####.

Assuming (like most do) that Bran his lis little brother died awhile ago, doesn't that make Tyrion the Lord of Winterfell? No way Tywin allows Bolton to rule the North when he could have a Lannister rule it.

 

[dancer]

It kinda sucks, but I don't think you can have a discussion in an internet forum about this show. I mean, you're asking people who read a series of fantasy books not to act like know-it-alls on the internet. That's like asking the birds not to fly and the fish not to swim.

Not true, it is done very successfully here:

http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/forum/1193-game-of-thrones-general-gabbery/

 

[KarmaPolice]

It's a really good show. I don't want anyone to screw it up for me. Not sure why this is so hard to understand.

its not, but there is a huge difference between not wanting to be spoiled and flipping your #### at the mere mention of the books. I don't think anything has been spoiled in here, but it has gotten to the point where a comment that won't effect the viewing whatsoever- something like "sam is a bit different in the books" will start up about 3 pages back and forth of #####ing.

For me it's not so much about spoiling the show, but spoiling the books. "Sam is a bit different in the books" is fairly minor, but when people go into great detail about past storylines from the books it kinda sucks because I want to read about that myself. It just seems like that talk can be saved for the specific book thread and everyone will be happy.I'm probably just better off avoiding this cluster-#### of a thread but I can't help it.

I get that about book spoilers too. sadly, there cant be a thread catered to each person's level of involvement (although we are trying). personally, I came in here b/c the book thread is full of spoilers and you shouldn't poke around in there if you are not up to date on reading.

 

[UniAlias]

It's a really good show. I don't want anyone to screw it up for me. Not sure why this is so hard to understand.

its not, but there is a huge difference between not wanting to be spoiled and flipping your #### at the mere mention of the books.I don't think anything has been spoiled in here, but it has gotten to the point where a comment that won't effect the viewing whatsoever- something like "sam is a bit different in the books" will start up about 3 pages back and forth of #####ing.

For me it's not so much about spoiling the show, but spoiling the books. "Sam is a bit different in the books" is fairly minor, but when people go into great detail about past storylines from the books it kinda sucks because I want to read about that myself. It just seems like that talk can be saved for the specific book thread and everyone will be happy.I'm probably just better off avoiding this cluster-#### of a thread but I can't help it.

the majority of the big events from the books are gonna be spoiled by the show, not by discussions in here

I get that. I enjoy watching the show first and going back to read the books for more details/back story.

 

[Amused to Death]

So far this season there are weddings planned for:

Joffrey/Margaery

Tyrion/Sansa

Edmure Tully/Frey's daughter

Cersei/Loras Tyrell

 

[Fiddles]

What's the problem shady

Youre asking a question about the books in the non-book thread

The multiple thread thing sucks. Just use spoiler tags

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

This thread should become a thread about the TV show only, but allow people who want to know more to ask and have things answered in spoilers if they like. So you can refer to books, websites, hbogo etc., but things need to be in spoilers and people need to know the general topic of the spoiler so they know whether they want to open it or not.

The Song of Ice and Fire original thread will not use spoiler tags, so be weary of opening it. It will discuss all books, shows, theories, etc.

Use the newly created thread for the TV show in a vacuum with questions not really seeking answers or explanations.

 

[Psychopav]

It's a really good show. I don't want anyone to screw it up for me. Not sure why this is so hard to understand.

its not, but there is a huge difference between not wanting to be spoiled and flipping your #### at the mere mention of the books.I don't think anything has been spoiled in here, but it has gotten to the point where a comment that won't effect the viewing whatsoever- something like "sam is a bit different in the books" will start up about 3 pages back and forth of #####ing.

For me it's not so much about spoiling the show, but spoiling the books. "Sam is a bit different in the books" is fairly minor, but when people go into great detail about past storylines from the books it kinda sucks because I want to read about that myself. It just seems like that talk can be saved for the specific book thread and everyone will be happy.I'm probably just better off avoiding this cluster-#### of a thread but I can't help it.

I get that about book spoilers too. sadly, there cant be a thread catered to each person's level of involvement (although we are trying). personally, I came in here b/c the book thread is full of spoilers and you shouldn't poke around in there if you are not up to date on reading.

That's actually the original reason for the board upgrade. If people would simply quit posting too many images and nesting too many quotes, Memphis Foundry can finally get around to making this happen.

 

[Polish Hammer]

It's a really good show. I don't want anyone to screw it up for me. Not sure why this is so hard to understand.

its not, but there is a huge difference between not wanting to be spoiled and flipping your #### at the mere mention of the books.I don't think anything has been spoiled in here, but it has gotten to the point where a comment that won't effect the viewing whatsoever- something like "sam is a bit different in the books" will start up about 3 pages back and forth of #####ing.

For me it's not so much about spoiling the show, but spoiling the books. "Sam is a bit different in the books" is fairly minor, but when people go into great detail about past storylines from the books it kinda sucks because I want to read about that myself. It just seems like that talk can be saved for the specific book thread and everyone will be happy.I'm probably just better off avoiding this cluster-#### of a thread but I can't help it.

I get that about book spoilers too. sadly, there cant be a thread catered to each person's level of involvement (although we are trying). personally, I came in here b/c the book thread is full of spoilers and you shouldn't poke around in there if you are not up to date on reading.

Agreed. For a while they did well about keeping things not yet shown on TV in spoiler tags. But in the last few weeks that because really lax. I read one thing that became essentially a spoiler on the Red Wedding and another on what I expect will happen next week. Once I read the second one I decided to just stay out of there.

I tend to read the books after an entire "book" has been shown on TV. There is no way that the totality of those pages could be spoiled by the few things mentioned on here (to me, at least). Plus there is just the act of reading the words that makes it a different experience altogether, along with the new info gleaned each time.

 

[B-Deep]

who knows if this has been posted in any of the half dozen GoT threads, i'll post it in all of them

http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/steps-to-get-over-your-game-of-thrones-sadness

 

[FreeBaGeL]

personally, I came in here b/c the book thread is full of spoilers and you shouldn't poke around in there if you are not up to date on reading.

I thought that sweeney said in the book thread you still had to put spoiler tags on anything that went beyond the spot the TV show is in?

 

[B-Deep]

personally, I came in here b/c the book thread is full of spoilers and you shouldn't poke around in there if you are not up to date on reading.

I thought that sweeney said in the book thread you still had to put spoiler tags on anything that went beyond the spot the TV show is in?

we need a new book thread that refuses to acknowledge the existence of tv shows

 

[KarmaPolice]

personally, I came in here b/c the book thread is full of spoilers and you shouldn't poke around in there if you are not up to date on reading.

I thought that sweeney said in the book thread you still had to put spoiler tags on anything that went beyond the spot the TV show is in?

yeah, and this was a tv only thread. lines get blurred, and I had a couple things spoiled. the show is not even 1/2 way caught up to the books. unrealisticto expect the use if spoiler tags 50+ % of the time you type things.

 

[Amused to Death]

personally, I came in here b/c the book thread is full of spoilers and you shouldn't poke around in there if you are not up to date on reading.

I thought that sweeney said in the book thread you still had to put spoiler tags on anything that went beyond the spot the TV show is in?

yeah, and this was a tv only thread. lines get blurred, and I had a couple things spoiled. the show is not even 1/2 way caught up to the books. unrealisticto expect the use if spoiler tags 50+ % of the time you type things.

Which is why I tend to stay in this thread. I've read through book 3, so the other one tends to get lax and I end up seeing things I wish I hadn't. I'm in GoT purgatory (having not read all the..um...printed material but not oblivious to things the show has glossed over or changed).

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Should have known something was up when Bolton (I think it was Bolton) turned down the wine.

i thought that was strange too, but he didn't drink with Jamie Lanister either. and one thing i'm sure they'll clue us in on for the finale is who the guys f'n with Theon are

if I am remembering correctly, there was one of those torture-X thingies theon is strapped to on robb's Risk board as he is talking strategy with mom. there have been a number of clues to who it be.

yes, on his giant risk map, that was the first time i really noticed it but i just thought the X Theon was on was just a good build for torture, didnt think it was a banner.... like if the banner was an S would they have an S shaped torture board?

I noticed he had XII armies in Yakutsk and thought he was going to try to make a move to take N. America via Kamchatka, but then they just f##king killed him instead.

 

[(HULK)]

We'll need a new thread when the show passes the books, probably a couple of seasons from now.

 

[bagger]

The violence is too tame to be historically accurate but I'll tune in as long as they have fire-breathing dragons.

History of what?

dragons.

 

[Drifter]

So that Bolton guy w/the chainmail under his clothes - he's from the North, right? Seems like he might be in line to be the new King of the North as the Boltons replace the Starks moving forward.Also, I'm starting to think this entire series is about Tyrion. It pretends that it is about the Starks and the Dragon Momma and other people, but at the end of the day I bet it's going to end up being a big long story about a midget who ####s up his daddy's ####.

Assuming (like most do) that Bran his lis little brother died awhile ago, doesn't that make Tyrion the Lord of Winterfell? No way Tywin allows Bolton to rule the North when he could have a Lannister rule it.

No, because he's not part of the bloodline he can't be King of the North Technically, at this point any number of Stark relations could make a claim but Sansa's child would theoretically have the strongest if nobody was able to get the backing for the claim.

 

[EYLive]

So far this season there are weddings planned for:

Joffrey/Margaery

Tyrion/Sansa

Edmure Tully/Frey's daughter

Cersei/Loras Tyrell

Was the Cersei/Loras marriage ever officially announced? Or was it just planned between Tywin and Lady Olenna?

 

[Ilov80s]

So that Bolton guy w/the chainmail under his clothes - he's from the North, right? Seems like he might be in line to be the new King of the North as the Boltons replace the Starks moving forward.Also, I'm starting to think this entire series is about Tyrion. It pretends that it is about the Starks and the Dragon Momma and other people, but at the end of the day I bet it's going to end up being a big long story about a midget who ####s up his daddy's ####.

Assuming (like most do) that Bran his lis little brother died awhile ago, doesn't that make Tyrion the Lord of Winterfell? No way Tywin allows Bolton to rule the North when he could have a Lannister rule it.

No, because he's not part of the bloodline he can't be King of the North Technically, at this point any number of Stark relations could make a claim but Sansa's child would theoretically have the strongest if nobody was able to get the backing for the claim.

Tyrion and Sansa have a strong claim. With support from the Crown and the North in shambles, it seems like perfect time for a new Stark-Lannister family in Winterfell.

 

[Premier]

History of what

 

[Drifter]

So that Bolton guy w/the chainmail under his clothes - he's from the North, right? Seems like he might be in line to be the new King of the North as the Boltons replace the Starks moving forward.Also, I'm starting to think this entire series is about Tyrion. It pretends that it is about the Starks and the Dragon Momma and other people, but at the end of the day I bet it's going to end up being a big long story about a midget who ####s up his daddy's ####.

Assuming (like most do) that Bran his lis little brother died awhile ago, doesn't that make Tyrion the Lord of Winterfell? No way Tywin allows Bolton to rule the North when he could have a Lannister rule it.

No, because he's not part of the bloodline he can't be King of the North Technically, at this point any number of Stark relations could make a claim but Sansa's child would theoretically have the strongest if nobody was able to get the backing for the claim.

Tyrion and Sansa have a strong claim. With support from the Crown and the North in shambles, it seems like perfect time for a new Stark-Lannister family in Winterfell.

Neither of them have a claim. Tyrion isn't blood and Sansa is a woman. Their child would have a claim but they don't.

 

[Sinn Fein]

So that Bolton guy w/the chainmail under his clothes - he's from the North, right? Seems like he might be in line to be the new King of the North as the Boltons replace the Starks moving forward.Also, I'm starting to think this entire series is about Tyrion. It pretends that it is about the Starks and the Dragon Momma and other people, but at the end of the day I bet it's going to end up being a big long story about a midget who ####s up his daddy's ####.

Assuming (like most do) that Bran his lis little brother died awhile ago, doesn't that make Tyrion the Lord of Winterfell? No way Tywin allows Bolton to rule the North when he could have a Lannister rule it.

No, because he's not part of the bloodline he can't be King of the North Technically, at this point any number of Stark relations could make a claim but Sansa's child would theoretically have the strongest if nobody was able to get the backing for the claim.

Tyrion and Sansa have a strong claim. With support from the Crown and the North in shambles, it seems like perfect time for a new Stark-Lannister family in Winterfell.

Neither of them have a claim. Tyrion isn't blood and Sansa is a woman. Their child would have a claim but they don't.

What episode was that in?

 

[Drifter]

So that Bolton guy w/the chainmail under his clothes - he's from the North, right? Seems like he might be in line to be the new King of the North as the Boltons replace the Starks moving forward.Also, I'm starting to think this entire series is about Tyrion. It pretends that it is about the Starks and the Dragon Momma and other people, but at the end of the day I bet it's going to end up being a big long story about a midget who ####s up his daddy's ####.

Assuming (like most do) that Bran his lis little brother died awhile ago, doesn't that make Tyrion the Lord of Winterfell? No way Tywin allows Bolton to rule the North when he could have a Lannister rule it.

No, because he's not part of the bloodline he can't be King of the North Technically, at this point any number of Stark relations could make a claim but Sansa's child would theoretically have the strongest if nobody was able to get the backing for the claim.

Tyrion and Sansa have a strong claim. With support from the Crown and the North in shambles, it seems like perfect time for a new Stark-Lannister family in Winterfell.

Neither of them have a claim. Tyrion isn't blood and Sansa is a woman. Their child would have a claim but they don't.

What episode was that in?

As far as I can remember it's never spelled out in the books. It's to be assumed by the succession laws of our own history that GOT is based on.

 

[Thunderlips]

So that Bolton guy w/the chainmail under his clothes - he's from the North, right? Seems like he might be in line to be the new King of the North as the Boltons replace the Starks moving forward.Also, I'm starting to think this entire series is about Tyrion. It pretends that it is about the Starks and the Dragon Momma and other people, but at the end of the day I bet it's going to end up being a big long story about a midget who ####s up his daddy's ####.

Assuming (like most do) that Bran his lis little brother died awhile ago, doesn't that make Tyrion the Lord of Winterfell? No way Tywin allows Bolton to rule the North when he could have a Lannister rule it.

No, because he's not part of the bloodline he can't be King of the North Technically, at this point any number of Stark relations could make a claim but Sansa's child would theoretically have the strongest if nobody was able to get the backing for the claim.

Tyrion and Sansa have a strong claim. With support from the Crown and the North in shambles, it seems like perfect time for a new Stark-Lannister family in Winterfell.

Neither of them have a claim. Tyrion isn't blood and Sansa is a woman. Their child would have a claim but they don't.

Tywin seems to think that a Tyrion/Sansa child would be the legit ruler of Winterfell (North) and that Tyrion (and Sansa) would be the King and Queen Regent(they would be in charge until the new Lord of Winterfell came of age. I think they referred to Lysa in Eyrie as that as well (seeing as her son the breastfeeder is the legit ruler of the Eyrie). If Joffery were younger...Cersi would have that power as well.

That would be the problem with Tyrion being Lord Regent going foreward......as I'm sure most of the North hates the Lannisters even more now.

 

[Ilov80s]

So that Bolton guy w/the chainmail under his clothes - he's from the North, right? Seems like he might be in line to be the new King of the North as the Boltons replace the Starks moving forward.Also, I'm starting to think this entire series is about Tyrion. It pretends that it is about the Starks and the Dragon Momma and other people, but at the end of the day I bet it's going to end up being a big long story about a midget who ####s up his daddy's ####.

Assuming (like most do) that Bran his lis little brother died awhile ago, doesn't that make Tyrion the Lord of Winterfell? No way Tywin allows Bolton to rule the North when he could have a Lannister rule it.

No, because he's not part of the bloodline he can't be King of the North Technically, at this point any number of Stark relations could make a claim but Sansa's child would theoretically have the strongest if nobody was able to get the backing for the claim.

Tyrion and Sansa have a strong claim. With support from the Crown and the North in shambles, it seems like perfect time for a new Stark-Lannister family in Winterfell.

Neither of them have a claim. Tyrion isn't blood and Sansa is a woman. Their child would have a claim but they don't.

What episode was that in?

As far as I can remember it's never spelled out in the books. It's to be assumed by the succession laws of our own history that GOT is based on.

Different kingdoms had different succession laws. There was never one international standard that crossed a cultures and time. Also, rules changed due to circumstances. The king can name whomever they want as The Lord of Winterfell if the other nobles and his army support it.

 

[Wingnut]

The only thing this thread is good for is reading reactions to the crazy #### that happens on the show. Besides that, its just a bunch of markings on a screen.

 

[Sinn Fein]

The only thing this thread is good for is reading reactions to the crazy #### that happens on the show. Besides that, its just a bunch of markings on a screen.

Are you a ####### wizard?

 

[Wyld Stallyns]

So that Bolton guy w/the chainmail under his clothes - he's from the North, right? Seems like he might be in line to be the new King of the North as the Boltons replace the Starks moving forward.Also, I'm starting to think this entire series is about Tyrion. It pretends that it is about the Starks and the Dragon Momma and other people, but at the end of the day I bet it's going to end up being a big long story about a midget who ####s up his daddy's ####.

Assuming (like most do) that Bran his lis little brother died awhile ago, doesn't that make Tyrion the Lord of Winterfell? No way Tywin allows Bolton to rule the North when he could have a Lannister rule it.

No, because he's not part of the bloodline he can't be King of the North Technically, at this point any number of Stark relations could make a claim but Sansa's child would theoretically have the strongest if nobody was able to get the backing for the claim.

Tyrion and Sansa have a strong claim. With support from the Crown and the North in shambles, it seems like perfect time for a new Stark-Lannister family in Winterfell.

Neither of them have a claim. Tyrion isn't blood and Sansa is a woman. Their child would have a claim but they don't.

What episode was that in?

As far as I can remember it's never spelled out in the books. It's to be assumed by the succession laws of our own history that GOT is based on.

Different kingdoms had different succession laws. There was never one international standard that crossed a cultures and time. Also, rules changed due to circumstances. The king can name whomever they want as The Lord of Winterfell if the other nobles and his army support it.

If we've learned anything from this show it's that claims to thrones matter very little. Thrones go to whoever has the biggest stones and the biggest armies to just go and take them. With Winterfell burnt to the ground, no Starks left except children, girls and bastards... It's ripe for the Starks to lose their claim.

That said, I think the point about Tywin sending Tyrion and Sansa in there makes a lot of sense. The Freys, Karstarks or whoever else may want to make a run at it but I don't see them going aganist Tywin for it. Also, sending the son he hates to banishment in the North would make a lot of sense for him. It's a win/win.

 

[Psychopav]

So that Bolton guy w/the chainmail under his clothes - he's from the North, right? Seems like he might be in line to be the new King of the North as the Boltons replace the Starks moving forward.Also, I'm starting to think this entire series is about Tyrion. It pretends that it is about the Starks and the Dragon Momma and other people, but at the end of the day I bet it's going to end up being a big long story about a midget who ####s up his daddy's ####.

Assuming (like most do) that Bran his lis little brother died awhile ago, doesn't that make Tyrion the Lord of Winterfell? No way Tywin allows Bolton to rule the North when he could have a Lannister rule it.

No, because he's not part of the bloodline he can't be King of the North Technically, at this point any number of Stark relations could make a claim but Sansa's child would theoretically have the strongest if nobody was able to get the backing for the claim.

Tyrion and Sansa have a strong claim. With support from the Crown and the North in shambles, it seems like perfect time for a new Stark-Lannister family in Winterfell.

Neither of them have a claim. Tyrion isn't blood and Sansa is a woman. Their child would have a claim but they don't.

What episode was that in?

As far as I can remember it's never spelled out in the books. It's to be assumed by the succession laws of our own history that GOT is based on.

Different kingdoms had different succession laws. There was never one international standard that crossed a cultures and time. Also, rules changed due to circumstances. The king can name whomever they want as The Lord of Winterfell if the other nobles and his army support it.

If we've learned anything from this show it's that claims to thrones matter very little. Thrones go to whoever has the biggest stones and the biggest armies to just go and take them. With Winterfell burnt to the ground, no Starks left except children, girls and bastards... It's ripe for the Starks to lose their claim.

That said, I think the point about Tywin sending Tyrion and Sansa in there makes a lot of sense. The Freys, Karstarks or whoever else may want to make a run at it but I don't see them going aganist Tywin for it. Also, sending the son he hates to banishment in the North would make a lot of sense for him. It's a win/win.

Roose Bolton will want to be appropriately rewarded for his role in the Red Wedding. Not sure if the Bolton clan is high enough up the totem pole to stretch for King of the North though. But with Tywin promising Harrenhal to Littlefinger, what compensation is left to Bolton for his betrayal of the Starks?

 

[shadyridr]

Just watched it again. Got chills the second time when that music started. Also, didnt realize roose was married to a frey granddaughter

 

[Ilov80s]

So that Bolton guy w/the chainmail under his clothes - he's from the North, right? Seems like he might be in line to be the new King of the North as the Boltons replace the Starks moving forward.Also, I'm starting to think this entire series is about Tyrion. It pretends that it is about the Starks and the Dragon Momma and other people, but at the end of the day I bet it's going to end up being a big long story about a midget who ####s up his daddy's ####.

Assuming (like most do) that Bran his lis little brother died awhile ago, doesn't that make Tyrion the Lord of Winterfell? No way Tywin allows Bolton to rule the North when he could have a Lannister rule it.

No, because he's not part of the bloodline he can't be King of the North Technically, at this point any number of Stark relations could make a claim but Sansa's child would theoretically have the strongest if nobody was able to get the backing for the claim.

Tyrion and Sansa have a strong claim. With support from the Crown and the North in shambles, it seems like perfect time for a new Stark-Lannister family in Winterfell.

Neither of them have a claim. Tyrion isn't blood and Sansa is a woman. Their child would have a claim but they don't.

What episode was that in?

As far as I can remember it's never spelled out in the books. It's to be assumed by the succession laws of our own history that GOT is based on.

Different kingdoms had different succession laws. There was never one international standard that crossed a cultures and time. Also, rules changed due to circumstances. The king can name whomever they want as The Lord of Winterfell if the other nobles and his army support it.

If we've learned anything from this show it's that claims to thrones matter very little. Thrones go to whoever has the biggest stones and the biggest armies to just go and take them. With Winterfell burnt to the ground, no Starks left except children, girls and bastards... It's ripe for the Starks to lose their claim. That said, I think the point about Tywin sending Tyrion and Sansa in there makes a lot of sense. The Freys, Karstarks or whoever else may want to make a run at it but I don't see them going aganist Tywin for it. Also, sending the son he hates to banishment in the North would make a lot of sense for him. It's a win/win.

Roose Bolton will want to be appropriately rewarded for his role in the Red Wedding. Not sure if the Bolton clan is high enough up the totem pole to stretch for King of the North though. But with Tywin promising Harrenhal to Littlefinger, what compensation is left to Bolton for his betrayal of the Starks?

Perhaps Bolton saw that this wasn't a war Robb was going to win. His prize here may be some money, trivial lands and most importantly, his life...for now at least. While Bolton helped Tywin beat Robb, Tywin has to see Bolton as dishonorable scum. No way he trusts him and he is likely very high on Tywin's #### list.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

some spoilers there GG

 

[Ilov80s]

Smh. This is how people entertain themselves? Worse than little kids sometimes. I just don't see what the big thrill is in ruining things for other people?

 

[Homer J Simpson]

If Gekko's post ruined anything, it's your own fault for reading anything he posts on any topic in any thread.

 

[shadyridr]

Anytime I see a GG post you might as well have spoiler tags in front of it cuz i never read them. Its like having someone on ignore but having to scroll more

 

[babydemon90]

Eight years after King Robert Baratheon wrested the Iron Throne from the Targaryens, Balon Greyjoy of the Iron Islands initiated his own rebellion and declared his independence from the Seven Kingdoms. In a failed assault that claimed the life of Balon's heir Rodrik, the Ironmen attacked Seagard.

The Ironborn were dealt another blow when the Crown's forces, including Ned Stark, Barristan Selmy, Jorah Mormont and the King himself, launched a siege against Pyke. Balon's second son was killed during this attack, and after his family stronghold was devastated, the Lord of the Iron Islands bent the knee to Robert. As punishment and to ensure there would be no other uprisings, Lord Greyjoy was forced to surrender his only surviving son, Theon (then 8), for Ned Stark to raise as his ward at Winterfell.

Balon Greyjoy stayed quiet for nine years, until his son’s return as an envoy of Robb Stark. Eager to prove himself, Theon renounced his ties to Robb and pledged his allegiance to his father, who was leading a new insurgency. The Prince of Pyke sacked Winterfell, forcing the young Stark boys into hiding.

 

[jamny]

 

[ConnSKINS26]

can't help but shoving his association with the industry in people's faces.

 

[Chadstroma]

Robb Stark may be the biggest #### up of all time. Every decision he made was impulsive, selfish and ultimately led to the death of his kin and bannermen, as well as the Stark war effort.You have to think the Starks have taken the last of their beatings. At least the remaining members aren't morons.

Please, retire the account or hand it to someone else. K, thx. Bye.

In fairness, he is quoting a post that is dead on. Robb was the suck.

Robb started out with a force that was less than half of his enemies forces. Managed to destroy half of that force and followed it up with several other victories putting his enemy on the ropes. Perhaps if not for House Tyrell joining the Lannisters and then later losing the Karstarks- things would be different. It seems to me that Robb was an excellent military leader. There may be other weaknesses (as pretty much everyone has) but I don't see how you take that from him.

I can see that I guess. The thing is he made catastrophic strategic decisions that were rooted in his own self interest and not that of those he meant to rule. He got his ### handed to him from 2000 miles away. A great war general...okay. A terrible King. He was ill-suited from the get go. Too inexperienced.

He decisions he made were more personal than strategic. He believed Theon was like a brother so he trusted him. He fell in love with some hottie even though he was suppose to marry a Frey girl. The only Kingly decision he made that turned things for him was killing Karstark rather than taking a less honorable route but that seems to be an inherited trait.

 

[Chadstroma]

The violence is too tame to be historically accurate but I'll tune in as long as they have fire-breathing dragons.

History of what?

Westeros. Pay attention.