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Game of Thrones, tv only, books don't exist, no backstory...NERDS already ruining a series that hasn't started (6 Viewers)

The amount of time wasted on Stanis for this past 4 years has been truly remarkable. He got rolled 2 out of the 3 times he got in a fight (and the only "win" was a sneak attack) and then gets unceremoniously stabbed in a half-assed revenge kill when he was probably going to die anyway. A whole season of build up only for him to indignantly "march" to winterfell and get cut to pieces. Just brutally pointless.

Unless the red priestess revives Jon (which seems very unlikely) the whole thing was a total waste of time.

Other than the battle with the whitewalkers (which again...seems pretty pointless, as Jon died anyway and the dopes left at the wall wont have a prayer of stopping them) and some pretty sweet boob shots, this season was really a total bust for me.

At this point, I guess we're just supposed to root for Dany, which also seems dumb since A) she has proven to be a pretty terrible leader and B) the combination of lack of nudity and her story basically being stagnant for like 2 years.
Pretty much
 
Honestly who is left in play for the throne? Tyrion? Dany? The north is in total chaos. The plot structure is in chaos too, who is driving the plot now? It feels like GRRM has painted himself in a corner here. How in the hell is Dany going to get to KL without a navy anyway, presuming she even gets back?

 
Great episode except for Dany. So annoyed we have been with her while she does jack for a couple seasons just to have her start again where she was in season 1 (well, i guess worse off- 2 less dragons and no Drogo)

I say no way Jon is dead. Too convenient to have Red Witch show back up.

Arya = holy anger issues Batman!

 
Killing (maybe?) Jon Snow pissed me off. I should have seen it coming with Martin. It didn't seem to fit in with the storyline though for such a large group to turn against him.

One thing no one has mentioned...what if what we witnessed was a nightmare of Jon himself? That would work for me.

 
Killing (maybe?) Jon Snow pissed me off. I should have seen it coming with Martin. It didn't seem to fit in with the storyline though for such a large group to turn against him.

One thing no one has mentioned...what if what we witnessed was a nightmare of Jon himself? That would work for me.
Oh please, no..

We are already in the territory where we are 2nd guessing every death we see (or dont see) : the hound, the mountain, jon, Stannis, blah, blah. We have been shown a couple times that The Lord of Light can bring people back or hell, even the King White Walker could resurrect him. I would not be amused if they start bringing in if important scenes are real or dreams.

 
I was unaware that the Boltons had so many dudes. From that wide shot (which was actually more interesting than showing the various up-close beheadings/stabbings, etc. [and probably more cost-efficient]) it seems like Stannis' bros got flanked and rolled pretty easily. Did the sellswords that bailed on him just head off to fight for the the Boltons?

If I'm remembering my GOT history right, the first time the White Walkers came down from the North (pre-Wall) they ran wild all over Westeros until Azul ###### showed up and killed them all or something. Maybe the whole point that the show's getting at is when the short-sighted/brutally violent people (Cersei, the Boltons, the slavemasters in Meeeeeereeeeeen, Stannis) start out-numbering the sensible people who are trying to take the long view (Snow, Tyrion, even Shireen), you get what you deserve. Maybe the epic dragons frying the White Walkers final episode that everyone's kind of imagining doesn't come to pass. Maybe Danyerys just stays chilling out with the dragons and gives up on the dream, she's already gotten a pretty good sense of how crummy the whole thing is.

That said, I'm also not convinced from that EW interview that Snow's dead dead, esp. given that the witch is on the premises. He's not going to do an interview with EW and say "Aaaayyyy, you never know!" He's gotta say he's gone no matter what's going to happen.

 
If that Heady's body then she won GoT. Game over. Won't she just make Tommen call the royal army to annihilate the high priest or whatever he is? They should run down that alley slaying people.

Frustrating that everyone on the night's watch knows their is an army of walking dead coming yet still can't get over wildlings. Silly.

Jon Snow is not dead. Was it just me or did his eyes clearly change shade? This just frees him up to leave the watch and get laid.

 
No way word of Stannis' daughters death does not get back to nightwatch and knuckle dude. Half of Stannis' army deserted.

Knuckle dude would kill her in a second.

 
Killing (maybe?) Jon Snow pissed me off. I should have seen it coming with Martin. It didn't seem to fit in with the storyline though for such a large group to turn against him.

One thing no one has mentioned...what if what we witnessed was a nightmare of Jon himself? That would work for me.
That would be a cop out to me... Dream sequences are lame. I don't think he's done yet though - gotta be a reason Melisandre went to Castle Black of all the places she could have bailed too.

 
Such a frustrating end to a frustrating season. I thought the theory behind Jon Snow's lineage was one of the more interesting subplots of the whole series, and now it may just be thrown away. Dany's story looks to be dragging out again next season. Brienne missing Sansa's distress call was a trope right out of SOA as Stannis was going to die regardless. Who knows what the hell happened to Arya. etc.
Could be wrong, but Brienne would have no idea that the fire in the window was Sansa's distress call. I believe that was for the people of Winterfell to know she was in distress. I assume the distress signal picks up with Sansa and Reek in the next season. After they jumped, they gotta go somewhere.

 
Such a frustrating end to a frustrating season. I thought the theory behind Jon Snow's lineage was one of the more interesting subplots of the whole series, and now it may just be thrown away. Dany's story looks to be dragging out again next season. Brienne missing Sansa's distress call was a trope right out of SOA as Stannis was going to die regardless. Who knows what the hell happened to Arya. etc.
Could be wrong, but Brienne would have no idea that the fire in the window was Sansa's distress call. I believe that was for the people of Winterfell to know she was in distress. I assume the distress signal picks up with Sansa and Reek in the next season. After they jumped, they gotta go somewhere.
pretty sure youre wrong
 
Such a frustrating end to a frustrating season. I thought the theory behind Jon Snow's lineage was one of the more interesting subplots of the whole series, and now it may just be thrown away. Dany's story looks to be dragging out again next season. Brienne missing Sansa's distress call was a trope right out of SOA as Stannis was going to die regardless. Who knows what the hell happened to Arya. etc.
Could be wrong, but Brienne would have no idea that the fire in the window was Sansa's distress call. I believe that was for the people of Winterfell to know she was in distress. I assume the distress signal picks up with Sansa and Reek in the next season. After they jumped, they gotta go somewhere.
pretty sure youre wrong
That's fine but why would Brienne know what that sign was for? When do they go into that at all?

 
Such a frustrating end to a frustrating season. I thought the theory behind Jon Snow's lineage was one of the more interesting subplots of the whole series, and now it may just be thrown away. Dany's story looks to be dragging out again next season. Brienne missing Sansa's distress call was a trope right out of SOA as Stannis was going to die regardless. Who knows what the hell happened to Arya. etc.
Could be wrong, but Brienne would have no idea that the fire in the window was Sansa's distress call. I believe that was for the people of Winterfell to know she was in distress. I assume the distress signal picks up with Sansa and Reek in the next season. After they jumped, they gotta go somewhere.
pretty sure youre wrong
That's fine but why would Brienne know what that sign was for? When do they go into that at all?
That Old Bag who Ramsey ended up flaying set it up between Sansa and Brienne about the candle in the window.

 
Such a frustrating end to a frustrating season. I thought the theory behind Jon Snow's lineage was one of the more interesting subplots of the whole series, and now it may just be thrown away. Dany's story looks to be dragging out again next season. Brienne missing Sansa's distress call was a trope right out of SOA as Stannis was going to die regardless. Who knows what the hell happened to Arya. etc.
Could be wrong, but Brienne would have no idea that the fire in the window was Sansa's distress call. I believe that was for the people of Winterfell to know she was in distress. I assume the distress signal picks up with Sansa and Reek in the next season. After they jumped, they gotta go somewhere.
pretty sure youre wrong
That's fine but why would Brienne know what that sign was for? When do they go into that at all?
Unless Brienne got in contact with "the people of Winterfell/The North" offscreen, they trusted her and passed along this info, you are correct.

 
Such a frustrating end to a frustrating season. I thought the theory behind Jon Snow's lineage was one of the more interesting subplots of the whole series, and now it may just be thrown away. Dany's story looks to be dragging out again next season. Brienne missing Sansa's distress call was a trope right out of SOA as Stannis was going to die regardless. Who knows what the hell happened to Arya. etc.
Could be wrong, but Brienne would have no idea that the fire in the window was Sansa's distress call. I believe that was for the people of Winterfell to know she was in distress. I assume the distress signal picks up with Sansa and Reek in the next season. After they jumped, they gotta go somewhere.
pretty sure youre wrong
That's fine but why would Brienne know what that sign was for? When do they go into that at all?
Dude shes standing there starin at the tower where sansa lights the candle

 
Such a frustrating end to a frustrating season. I thought the theory behind Jon Snow's lineage was one of the more interesting subplots of the whole series, and now it may just be thrown away. Dany's story looks to be dragging out again next season. Brienne missing Sansa's distress call was a trope right out of SOA as Stannis was going to die regardless. Who knows what the hell happened to Arya. etc.
Could be wrong, but Brienne would have no idea that the fire in the window was Sansa's distress call. I believe that was for the people of Winterfell to know she was in distress. I assume the distress signal picks up with Sansa and Reek in the next season. After they jumped, they gotta go somewhere.
pretty sure youre wrong
That's fine but why would Brienne know what that sign was for? When do they go into that at all?
That Old Bag who Ramsey ended up flaying set it up between Sansa and Brienne about the candle in the window.
What? When? Are you just saying that because it's what you think or did it happen?

 
Such a frustrating end to a frustrating season. I thought the theory behind Jon Snow's lineage was one of the more interesting subplots of the whole series, and now it may just be thrown away. Dany's story looks to be dragging out again next season. Brienne missing Sansa's distress call was a trope right out of SOA as Stannis was going to die regardless. Who knows what the hell happened to Arya. etc.
Could be wrong, but Brienne would have no idea that the fire in the window was Sansa's distress call. I believe that was for the people of Winterfell to know she was in distress. I assume the distress signal picks up with Sansa and Reek in the next season. After they jumped, they gotta go somewhere.
pretty sure youre wrong
That's fine but why would Brienne know what that sign was for? When do they go into that at all?
Dude shes standing there starin at the tower where sansa lights the candle
I just took that as an artistic shot by the director.

 
Such a frustrating end to a frustrating season. I thought the theory behind Jon Snow's lineage was one of the more interesting subplots of the whole series, and now it may just be thrown away. Dany's story looks to be dragging out again next season. Brienne missing Sansa's distress call was a trope right out of SOA as Stannis was going to die regardless. Who knows what the hell happened to Arya. etc.
Could be wrong, but Brienne would have no idea that the fire in the window was Sansa's distress call. I believe that was for the people of Winterfell to know she was in distress. I assume the distress signal picks up with Sansa and Reek in the next season. After they jumped, they gotta go somewhere.
pretty sure youre wrong
That's fine but why would Brienne know what that sign was for? When do they go into that at all?
Unless Brienne got in contact with "the people of Winterfell/The North" offscreen, they trusted her and passed along this info, you are correct.
...and that could have happened. I just don't get why everyone assumes this? Why would residents of Winterfell think "hey look at this huge lady, let's tell her our plan that would all get us flayed if she's untrustworthy!"

 
I'm just starting to watch so I haven't read anything yet but lol at Stannis and his army crossing over an impenetrable terrain of flat, lightly powdered ground to get to winterfell

 

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