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[KarmaPolice]

One thing I couldn't really figure out was Tywin's motivation for making Oberyn a judge. Is he just doing it under the assumption that Oberyn will vote the way he tells him to? (to assure that he gets his hands on The Mountain)

Didn't Tywin tell him why he needed him during their discussion?

 

[MyLeftHand]

The HBO viewers guide is pretty great, even if only for the map.

Better map...

http://quartermaester.info/

[SIZE=11.818181991577148px]note this map will show you character movements through all books in the series. i.e. ahead of where the show is[/SIZE]

 

[KarmaPolice]

The HBO viewers guide is pretty great, even if only for the map.

Better map...http://quartermaester.info/

note this map will show you character movements through all books in the series. i.e. ahead of where the show is

it is nice- you can set it the TV and to how far you are in the series. might be easy to click something wrong and get spoiled at least as to where people might move to.

 

[the moops]

Anyone figure out what Davos got all excited about when he asked the little girl to write the letter?

 

[DaVinci]

Anyone figure out what Davos got all excited about when he asked the little girl to write the letter?

He's going to sic the bankers on the King's Landing.

 

[shadyridr]

Anyone figure out what Davos got all excited about when he asked the little girl to write the letter?

He's going to sic the bankers on the King's Landing.

Yeah but what did the little girl say to give him that idea?

 

[DaVinci]

Anyone figure out what Davos got all excited about when he asked the little girl to write the letter?

He's going to sic the bankers on the King's Landing.

Yeah but what did the little girl say to give him that idea?

The book was about a First Sword of Braavos. The Iron Bank is in Braavos.

 

[shadyridr]

Anyone figure out what Davos got all excited about when he asked the little girl to write the letter?

He's going to sic the bankers on the King's Landing.

Yeah but what did the little girl say to give him that idea?

The book was about a First Sword of Braavos. The Iron Bank is in Braavos.

beautiful thanks!

 

[the moops]

So he is writing a letter to the bankers warning them he is coming? Hoping they move the gold and he steals it or something?

 

[mozzy84]

So Littlefinger killed the king or at least helped plan it?

 

[identikit]

So Littlefinger killed the king or at least helped plan it?

Yes.

 

[shadyridr]

So Littlefinger killed the king or at least helped plan it?

I think he had a hand in financing it.

 

[the moops]

Littlefinger is pretty badass. I like that guy

 

[bushdocda]

Littlefingers voice is almost as funny as Christian Bale talking as Batman.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

One thing I couldn't really figure out was Tywin's motivation for making Oberyn a judge.

Good lord.

lol

 

[mozzy84]

Littlefingers voice is almost as funny as Christian Bale talking as Batman.

so over the top

 

[TLEF316]

One thing I couldn't really figure out was Tywin's motivation for making Oberyn a judge.

Good lord.

lol

I don't get it.

 

[culdeus]

So Littlefinger killed the king or at least helped plan it?

So a No-Spoiler writeup said that

Spoiler

the necklace was actually poison.

. I didn't remember seeing this in the episode. Is that right or was it book talk leaking into a spoiler free zone? If so that pretty much closes the door on that.

Based on that map Dany is still a hell of a long way away from doing anything. So are we to be subjected to 100 more of these speeches?

 

[shadyridr]

So Littlefinger killed the king or at least helped plan it?

So a No-Spoiler writeup said that

Spoiler

the necklace was actually poison.

Spoiler

. I didn't remember seeing this in the episode. Is that right or was it book talk leaking into a spoiler free zone? If so that pretty much closes the door on that.

Based on that map Dany is still a hell of a long way away from doing anything. So are we to be subjected to 100 more of these speeches?

what do you think the last 3 pages were referring to?

 

[culdeus]

So Littlefinger killed the king or at least helped plan it?

So a No-Spoiler writeup said that

Spoiler

the necklace was actually poison.

Spoiler

. I didn't remember seeing this in the episode. Is that right or was it book talk leaking into a spoiler free zone? If so that pretty much closes the door on that.

Based on that map Dany is still a hell of a long way away from doing anything. So are we to be subjected to 100 more of these speeches?

Spoiler

what do you think the last 3 pages were referring to?

I didn't read the last three pages. I assumed it was more awful bfred schtick and the like.

 

[Colts Win]

When little finger broke the necklace didn't it look like all the gems where there?

 

[shadyridr]

When little finger broke the necklace didn't it look like all the gems where there?

yeah, why wouldnt they be?

 

[kentric]

When little finger broke the necklace didn't it look like all the gems where there?

I don't know, but what would be the point of Little Finger pointing it out. Why would LF give it to the Drunk Knight to further give it to her if not for the poison.

 

[shadyridr]

When little finger broke the necklace didn't it look like all the gems where there?

I don't know, but what would be the point of Little Finger pointing it out. Why would LF give it to the Drunk Knight to further give it to her if not for the poison.

establish a connection with Sansa

 

[the moops]

When little finger broke the necklace didn't it look like all the gems where there?

Just replayed it and took this screenshot.

http://i.imgur.com/L1dpvVj.png

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Didn't think Tywin was the type to lay all his cards out on the table and say "we need you". I'm surprised he gave Oberyn that much insight into his motivations.

 

[The Ref]

Anyone figure out what Davos got all excited about when he asked the little girl to write the letter?

He's going to sic the bankers on the King's Landing.

Yeah but what did the little girl say to give him that idea?

The book was about a First Sword of Braavos. The Iron Bank is in Braavos.

And on two different situations they have talked about the fact that you dont want to be in over your heads with the Iron bank, most recently by Lady Tyrell.

 

[The Ref]

When little finger broke the necklace didn't it look like all the gems where there?

I don't know, but what would be the point of Little Finger pointing it out. Why would LF give it to the Drunk Knight to further give it to her if not for the poison.

Yeah - the only thing that was clear to me what that Littlefinger was involved and in a big way. It stands to reason that the necklace had something to do with it and was probably the poison. Maybe i missed something but it must have been the fool who did it because S Stark seemed fairly ignorant.

 

[Thunderlips]

Didn't think Tywin was the type to lay all his cards out on the table and say "we need you". I'm surprised he gave Oberyn that much insight into his motivations.

and I'm paraphrasing (from the show)....TYRION: Never let it be said that Father didn't take advantage of a family crisis.

ETA: He said it to Oberyn....to bring Dorne back into the fold of the kingdom...that the Dornish were the only ones to stand up against the conquest of one of the Targaryn kings and that there was a Targaryan girl with Dragons across The Narrow Sea.

 

[The Ref]

One thing I couldn't really figure out was Tywin's motivation for making Oberyn a judge.

Good lord.

lol

I'll admit it. Probably the #1 reason that I'll rewatch. I'm not 100% sure of the reasons either.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Didn't think Tywin was the type to lay all his cards out on the table and say "we need you". I'm surprised he gave Oberyn that much insight into his motivations.

and I'm paraphrasing (from the show)....TYRION: Never let it be said that Father didn't take advantage of a family crisis.

ETA: He said it to Oberyn....to bring Dorne back into the fold of the kingdom...that the Dornish were the only ones to stand up against the conquest of one of the Targaryn kings and that there was a Targaryan girl with Dragons across The Narrow Sea.

I understand why he did it, I'm just surprised that he was willing to be so transparent about it and admit that really, he needs them more than they need him.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

One thing I couldn't really figure out was Tywin's motivation for making Oberyn a judge.

Good lord.

lol

I'll admit it. Probably the #1 reason that I'll rewatch. I'm not 100% sure of the reasons either.

He's trying to repair relations with Dorne because he knows they'll need Dorne when the dragons come knocking.

This involves repairing things privately (let him have revenge on The Mountain) and publicly (have Dorne's representative be part of the trial).

 

[parrot]

Just when you think this series can't get any more ridiculous, a one handed man rapes his sister in a church next to the body of their incestuous ******* son.

I gotta think this is the moral low point so far.

Lower than stabbing a pregnant woman in the stomach?

Gotta go with stabbing a fetus on this one.

It's not even a moral low point for Jaime, who pushed an innocent kid out the window of a tower.

 

[GregR]

Anyone figure out what Davos got all excited about when he asked the little girl to write the letter?

Earlier in the episode he tried to convince Stannis to hire mercenaries from the free cities. Stannis said no because they didn't have money.

So he's going to try to get the money to hire them from the Iron Bank. Interesting thing will be that the kingdom already owes the Iron Bank a ton of money from Littlefinger borrowing from them and Tywin to fund Robert's extravagances.

 

[culdeus]

Anyone figure out what Davos got all excited about when he asked the little girl to write the letter?

Earlier in the episode he tried to convince Stannis to hire mercenaries from the free cities. Stannis said no because they didn't have money.

So he's going to try to get the money to hire them from the Iron Bank. Interesting thing will be that the kingdom already owes the Iron Bank a ton of money from Littlefinger borrowing from them and Tywin to fund Robert's extravagances.

Yeah this whole thing seems short sighted. No way they would take a different side in this war.

 

[Northern Voice]

Anyone figure out what Davos got all excited about when he asked the little girl to write the letter?

Earlier in the episode he tried to convince Stannis to hire mercenaries from the free cities. Stannis said no because they didn't have money.

So he's going to try to get the money to hire them from the Iron Bank. Interesting thing will be that the kingdom already owes the Iron Bank a ton of money from Littlefinger borrowing from them and Tywin to fund Robert's extravagances.

Yeah this whole thing seems short sighted. No way they would take a different side in this war.

Didn't this come up in the context of Davos as a smuggler (not a pirate), I assume he's not just asking for a loan.

 

[Brady Marino]

Just when you think this series can't get any more ridiculous, a one handed man rapes his sister in a church next to the body of their incestuous ******* son.

I gotta think this is the moral low point so far.

Lower than stabbing a pregnant woman in the stomach?

Gotta go with stabbing a fetus on this one.

It's not even a moral low point for Jaime, who pushed an innocent kid out the window of a tower.

Actually, this is lower, IMO. His own son was lying dead next to him as he screwed his own sister.

 

[culdeus]

Anyone figure out what Davos got all excited about when he asked the little girl to write the letter?

Earlier in the episode he tried to convince Stannis to hire mercenaries from the free cities. Stannis said no because they didn't have money.

So he's going to try to get the money to hire them from the Iron Bank. Interesting thing will be that the kingdom already owes the Iron Bank a ton of money from Littlefinger borrowing from them and Tywin to fund Robert's extravagances.

Yeah this whole thing seems short sighted. No way they would take a different side in this war.

Didn't this come up in the context of Davos as a smuggler (not a pirate), I assume he's not just asking for a loan.

Yeah I suppose that could be the play. That story line is so boring I just can't get too interested in it.

 

[shadyridr]

I cant be the only one who wants to fast forward when Sam & Gilly are on the screen. They both are disgusting to look at and they are uninteresting and cant act.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

I cant be the only one who wants to fast forward when Sam & Gilly are on the screen. They both are disgusting to look at and they are uninteresting and cant act.

Honestly, as a staple of the show, everything that happens at and north of the wall is pretty boring compared to the political machinations of Westeros.

 

[GregR]

Anyone figure out what Davos got all excited about when he asked the little girl to write the letter?

Earlier in the episode he tried to convince Stannis to hire mercenaries from the free cities. Stannis said no because they didn't have money.

So he's going to try to get the money to hire them from the Iron Bank. Interesting thing will be that the kingdom already owes the Iron Bank a ton of money from Littlefinger borrowing from them and Tywin to fund Robert's extravagances.

Yeah this whole thing seems short sighted. No way they would take a different side in this war.

I agree I'm not seeing much angle why they would switch. Davos could say the kingdom owes Tywin even more than the Iron Bank, and now that he's in power he's going to repay himself before them so they should switch support to Stannis to get repaid. I'm not sure that makes enough sense though. Especially if they believe the throne is really in Lannister hands now, and of course a Lannister always repays his debts.

 

[the moops]

Wasn't there some talk last year about how the Lannisters actually don't have much wealth or something? Thinking it was when Tyrion becomes master of coin and is looking at the books?? Maybe the bank realizes this and supports Stannis?

 

[parrot]

Just when you think this series can't get any more ridiculous, a one handed man rapes his sister in a church next to the body of their incestuous ******* son.

I gotta think this is the moral low point so far.

Lower than stabbing a pregnant woman in the stomach?

Gotta go with stabbing a fetus on this one.

It's not even a moral low point for Jaime, who pushed an innocent kid out the window of a tower.

Actually, this is lower, IMO. His own son was lying dead next to him as he screwed his own sister.

Joff is already dead, and Jaime has screwed his own sister many times before. You have a strange moral code is you think that is worse than throwing a kid out a window with the intent of killing him.

 

[fruity pebbles]

I cant be the only one who wants to fast forward when Sam & Gilly are on the screen. They both are disgusting to look at and they are uninteresting and cant act.

Honestly, as a staple of the show, everything that happens at and north of the wall is pretty boring compared to the political machinations of Westeros.

I agree. The show wouldn't suffer at all without the Wall story line completely.

 

[KarmaPolice]

Wasn't there some talk last year about how the Lannisters actually don't have much wealth or something? Thinking it was when Tyrion becomes master of coin and is looking at the books?? Maybe the bank realizes this and supports Stannis?

I think that conversation was more that the king has borrowed heavily from the lannisters and the iron bank. it seemed like tyrion was a bit worried when he learned so much came from the iron bank.

 

[Gr00vus]

Wasn't there some talk last year about how the Lannisters actually don't have much wealth or something? Thinking it was when Tyrion becomes master of coin and is looking at the books?? Maybe the bank realizes this and supports Stannis?

Master of coin is for the kingdom of Westeros, not the Lannister holdings. So it was the kingdom that he was noting is effectively bankrupt. It's being implied that the Lannister funds are also wearing thin via Olenna's constant comments about how she (and the Tyrells) are now paying for everything (as the Lannisters don't seem to be able to).

 

[Drifter]

I cant be the only one who wants to fast forward when Sam & Gilly are on the screen. They both are disgusting to look at and they are uninteresting and cant act.

Honestly, as a staple of the show, everything that happens at and north of the wall is pretty boring compared to the political machinations of Westeros.

I agree. The show wouldn't suffer at all without the Wall story line completely.

I believe that's completely intentional and reflects that attitude of those involved in the story as well. All of the action down south - the intrigue, the wars, even Daenerys across the sea seems much more important and urgent than what is going on at the wall but that's what is probably the most sinister and dangerous to everyone involved in the long run.

 

[Steed]

Anyone figure out what Davos got all excited about when he asked the little girl to write the letter?

Earlier in the episode he tried to convince Stannis to hire mercenaries from the free cities. Stannis said no because they didn't have money.

So he's going to try to get the money to hire them from the Iron Bank. Interesting thing will be that the kingdom already owes the Iron Bank a ton of money from Littlefinger borrowing from them and Tywin to fund Robert's extravagances.

Yeah this whole thing seems short sighted. No way they would take a different side in this war.

Back when Tyrion had the "borrowing is worse than stealing bc you have to pay it back" conversation with Bronn, he implicitly stated that the Iron Bank always collects their fee. Even If it means financing their (the Lannister's) enemies.

 

[Maik Jeaunz]

that was an interesting look that Cersei gave Tommen when he was talking to Tywin. but I'm not sure how to interpret it:

- "oh wow, my son who barely ever speaks might actually turn out to be a real fine king!"

or

- "oh wow, my son who may soon be king is much smarter than I thought...not good for me!"

 

[Premier]

The latter.