Game of Thrones, tv only, books don't exist, no backstory...NERDS already ruining a series that hasn't started (1 Viewer)

[belljr]

The scene was filmed multiple times with Lena Headey, with a body double, and with a moving green screen and lighting equipment. The double was nude, while Lena wore a skin-colored dress.

 

[Harry Manback]

The scene was filmed multiple times with Lena Headey, with a body double, and with a moving green screen and lighting equipment. The double was nude, while Lena wore a skin-colored dress.

SUPER LAME

I though I read she wanted to do it for real.

 

[Harry Manback]

But nice. Body double. Nice.

 

[shadyridr]

Omg. The woman tells Sansa you have friends.they spent a half an episode making the point that if she wants out. Tell her she will light a candle and Brienne would come rescue her. Then reek sold her out.

this has to be schtick right?

horrible schtick at that

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

You think they dyed the carpet or made a wig?

wig

 

[The General]

Would have liked to get a small taste of the Mountain going hulk on a few people.

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

Hey guys are we sure that's the Mountain at the end? We never saw him rise and put on the armor

I remember the mountain having a beard. That guy in that helmet did not have a beard.

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

For the record, we can probably merge the threads now. There isn't a single (significant) storyline present in the books (that's also in the series) that the series hasn't caught up to or passed. The (apparent) death of Jon was at the very end of the last published book and made for a good season ending scene.

That all said, I have never understood how Martin handled the Snow murder(?). Plenty of the Watch saw what happened at Hardhome, and would have told the other brothers. They aren't the smartest bunch, but there is no reason at all why they wouldn't have at least understood why Jon brought the wildlings through. It made more sense for just one or two of them to have attempted a murder.

(BTW...Harrington is signed through season 7)

Yeah, this can't happen because:

1. There is a chance book 6 is out before season 6.

2. Just because most of the plots are caught up there are differences, and it has been proven time and again that basically nobody in here gives two craps about those differences and wants to hear about them.

Would be a huge mistake to merge these threads.

agree

 

[Spike]

I just want to see the Margaery (Natalie Dormer) walk of atonement. I'll DVR that one.

 

[TenTimes]

- the poison kiss was very predictable although why she thought she'd get away with it, I don't know. Wouldn't the Sand Prince just turn the boat around and go about killing the mother of the Sand Snakes? I mean they would know she was poisoned by the kiss.

Maybe Trystan has some antidote to give her

Nah.. would compromise the underlying theme of the entire show.

 

[kentric]

Umm, with the Baratheon line now completely eliminated (I think) who is the rightful heir to to the Seven Kingdoms?

Boy king is still alive.

hes not the rightful heir.

He is setting on the throne. So he is the heir to the Seven Kingdoms rightful or not.

True, but not my point. Stannis was the rightful heir, now there is no heir.

Ser Pounce is the heir.

Hodor?

 

[KarmaPolice]

What a fantastic episode. The covered almost all the open story lines and ended the season with Snow being offed.

Head scratchers/telegraphed moments:

- why did they lengthen the end of the Imp in the throne room. Even though it was no more than 10 seconds, it just didn't make sense;

- the poison kiss was very predictable although why she thought she'd get away with it, I don't know. Wouldn't the Sand Prince just turn the boat around and go about killing the mother of the Sand Snakes? I mean they would know she was poisoned by the kiss.

- where the hell was Ghost when Jon gets repeatedly stabbed. It is close enough to the action to save Sam Tarly but it doesn't do anything to save Jon;

- need more cowbell, I mean Giant.

Awesomeness which totally over-ride the above:

- the detail and real life look of the dragon was amazing. Having Dany interact with the dragon really brought the quality of the CGI home;

- Cersei's walk of shame was juicy. At first they didn't show her face and body together which made you think they had a body double, but when they honed in on her during the walk.... mmmmmm..... Loved the little bounce they had when she was walking;

- although they didn't show the battle at Winterfell, I thought it was very well done.

- Arya's killing of the guy on the top of her list was really sweet. She's a bad-###, but now a blind bad-###.

She doesn't care if she is found out. I think she is fine going to war over this.

People on the boat might take a little to figure out it was poison, but would they know who did it and when it happened?

 

[Spin]

It's like some people completely forgot about this entire scene and/or dozed off during it, which clearly explains that Brienne is the one sending the message, and why the North, and the network of old people, now trust her.

 

[kentric]

I was unaware that the Boltons had so many dudes. From that wide shot (which was actually more interesting than showing the various up-close beheadings/stabbings, etc. [and probably more cost-efficient]) it seems like Stannis' bros got flanked and rolled pretty easily. Did the sellswords that bailed on him just head off to fight for the the Boltons?

If I'm remembering my GOT history right, the first time the White Walkers came down from the North (pre-Wall) they ran wild all over Westeros until Azul ###### showed up and killed them all or something. Maybe the whole point that the show's getting at is when the short-sighted/brutally violent people (Cersei, the Boltons, the slavemasters in Meeeeeereeeeeen, Stannis) start out-numbering the sensible people who are trying to take the long view (Snow, Tyrion, even Shireen), you get what you deserve. Maybe the epic dragons frying the White Walkers final episode that everyone's kind of imagining doesn't come to pass. Maybe Danyerys just stays chilling out with the dragons and gives up on the dream, she's already gotten a pretty good sense of how crummy the whole thing is.

That said, I'm also not convinced from that EW interview that Snow's dead dead, esp. given that the witch is on the premises. He's not going to do an interview with EW and say "Aaaayyyy, you never know!" He's gotta say he's gone no matter what's going to happen.

I was thinking the same thing. I was expecting someone like Stannis' general to have made some kind of statement to support that as fact but no one did.

 

[fruity pebbles]

What a fantastic episode. The covered almost all the open story lines and ended the season with Snow being offed.

Head scratchers/telegraphed moments:

- why did they lengthen the end of the Imp in the throne room. Even though it was no more than 10 seconds, it just didn't make sense;

- the poison kiss was very predictable although why she thought she'd get away with it, I don't know. Wouldn't the Sand Prince just turn the boat around and go about killing the mother of the Sand Snakes? I mean they would know she was poisoned by the kiss.

- where the hell was Ghost when Jon gets repeatedly stabbed. It is close enough to the action to save Sam Tarly but it doesn't do anything to save Jon;

- need more cowbell, I mean Giant.

Awesomeness which totally over-ride the above:

- the detail and real life look of the dragon was amazing. Having Dany interact with the dragon really brought the quality of the CGI home;

- Cersei's walk of shame was juicy. At first they didn't show her face and body together which made you think they had a body double, but when they honed in on her during the walk.... mmmmmm..... Loved the little bounce they had when she was walking;

- although they didn't show the battle at Winterfell, I thought it was very well done.

- Arya's killing of the guy on the top of her list was really sweet. She's a bad-###, but now a blind bad-###.

She doesn't care if she is found out. I think she is fine going to war over this.

People on the boat might take a little to figure out it was poison, but would they know who did it and when it happened?

Absolutely, Bronns on the boat. Thinking he'll recognize that in a heartbeat.

 

[Mile High]

What a fantastic episode. The covered almost all the open story lines and ended the season with Snow being offed.

Head scratchers/telegraphed moments:

- why did they lengthen the end of the Imp in the throne room. Even though it was no more than 10 seconds, it just didn't make sense;

- the poison kiss was very predictable although why she thought she'd get away with it, I don't know. Wouldn't the Sand Prince just turn the boat around and go about killing the mother of the Sand Snakes? I mean they would know she was poisoned by the kiss.

- where the hell was Ghost when Jon gets repeatedly stabbed. It is close enough to the action to save Sam Tarly but it doesn't do anything to save Jon;

- need more cowbell, I mean Giant.

Awesomeness which totally over-ride the above:

- the detail and real life look of the dragon was amazing. Having Dany interact with the dragon really brought the quality of the CGI home;

- Cersei's walk of shame was juicy. At first they didn't show her face and body together which made you think they had a body double, but when they honed in on her during the walk.... mmmmmm..... Loved the little bounce they had when she was walking;

- although they didn't show the battle at Winterfell, I thought it was very well done.

- Arya's killing of the guy on the top of her list was really sweet. She's a bad-###, but now a blind bad-###.

She doesn't care if she is found out. I think she is fine going to war over this. People on the boat might take a little to figure out it was poison, but would they know who did it and when it happened?

She will probably get her head chopped off since she sold the prince of Dorne down the river since Jamie has him now.

 

[dickey moe]

When I watched them clean her up I said "that's a body double.... That's why her hair is in the way".

Nope. Wrong.

Just what they wanted you to think, then..... the big payoff!

 

[dickey moe]

After Jon Snow gets shivved...

Wife: "Well, there's no reason for me to watch this show anymore."

 

[dickey moe]

When I watched them clean her up I said "that's a body double.... That's why her hair is in the way".

Nope. Wrong.

Wife and I said the same thing. Can't believe she did it, but super impressed.

It was a body double as she was pregnant and they digitally altered those scenes.

Pretty good work

Same thing they did with Apatow's wife in that one flick she was in.

 

[dickey moe]

But nice. Body double. Nice.

Probably had the face of The Hound.

 

[jamny]

Anyone have a link to the Forbes article?

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

I just want to see the Margaery (Natalie Dormer) walk of atonement. I'll DVR that one.

Pancakes

 

[jamny]

I just want to see the Margaery (Natalie Dormer) walk of atonement. I'll DVR that one.

Pancakes

They would definitely need a body double, unless she gets a boob job first.

 

[Chadstroma]

Can someone remind me what brought the high sparrow into power?

Was it Cersi that tried to channel her inner rick santorum and bring them out, or was it more a grass roots thing that sprung up without her central involvement?

As presented on the show, an entire religious order essentially sprang out of nowhere and very suddenly controlled King's Landing, with enough power to arrest and imprison the Queen, the King's mother and a Kingsguard knight.

I assume you mean Loras when saying a Kingsguard.... he is not a Kingsguard.

 

[Chadstroma]

I was struck by how many pointless scenes there were. I mean, yea, we get it... Westeros is horrible. Did they really have to show all of that?

 

[Spin]

I was struck by how many pointless scenes there were. I mean, yea, we get it... Westeros is horrible. Did they really have to show all of that?

If you're referring to the walk, I think the point was to show Cersei begin to breakdown. At the beginning she looked prideful, and stern. But you could slowly see her breaking down. The actress did a wonderful job as you could clearly see her character breaking, to the point she was sobbing and could barely walk.

I think it also helps portray just how little the common people think of the royalty. It's easy to see why the sparrows have so much power, when all the people themselves back them. Exactly as the high sparrow put it, "we are the many".

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

I was struck by how many pointless scenes there were. I mean, yea, we get it... Westeros is horrible. Did they really have to show all of that?

all of what?

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

I was struck by how many pointless scenes there were. I mean, yea, we get it... Westeros is horrible. Did they really have to show all of that?

all of what?

ALL OF HORRIBLE WESTEROS

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Jon turns into a super-wight

GM?

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

I was struck by how many pointless scenes there were. I mean, yea, we get it... Westeros is horrible. Did they really have to show all of that?

all of what?

ALL OF HORRIBLE WESTEROS

I suppose.

Kinda like Star Wars. I mean, yea, we get it. Did they really have to show all those stars and wars?

 

[Buckychudd]

The scene was filmed multiple times with Lena Headey, with a body double, and with a moving green screen and lighting equipment. The double was nude, while Lena wore a skin-colored dress.

SUPER LAME

I though I read she wanted to do it for real.

Apparently she was noticeably pregnant in RL when they were doing the shot. No way to CGI that out.

 

[bostonfred]

It's like some people completely forgot about this entire scene and/or dozed off during it, which clearly explains that Brienne is the one sending the message, and why the North, and the network of old people, now trust her.

please don't post scenes from the book

 

[5-ish Finkle]

Jon turns into a super-wight

GM?

Nah, Snow's not a soulless ginger.

That wildling guy/Wyndham Rewards wizard? If he gets "zombie'd" you may be on to something there.

 

[regularguy]

Jon turns into a super-wight

GM?

 

[timschochet]

I was struck by how many pointless scenes there were. I mean, yea, we get it... Westeros is horrible. Did they really have to show all of that?

If you're referring to the walk, I think the point was to show Cersei begin to breakdown. At the beginning she looked prideful, and stern. But you could slowly see her breaking down. The actress did a wonderful job as you could clearly see her character breaking, to the point she was sobbing and could barely walk.

I think it also helps portray just how little the common people think of the royalty. It's easy to see why the sparrows have so much power, when all the people themselves back them. Exactly as the high sparrow put it, "we are the many".

Oh yeah? Well Cersei's going to crush the Occupy King's Landing crowd just as soon as next season begins. Those religious hippies will wish they never messed with her.

 

[Spin]

I was struck by how many pointless scenes there were. I mean, yea, we get it... Westeros is horrible. Did they really have to show all of that?

If you're referring to the walk, I think the point was to show Cersei begin to breakdown. At the beginning she looked prideful, and stern. But you could slowly see her breaking down. The actress did a wonderful job as you could clearly see her character breaking, to the point she was sobbing and could barely walk.

I think it also helps portray just how little the common people think of the royalty. It's easy to see why the sparrows have so much power, when all the people themselves back them. Exactly as the high sparrow put it, "we are the many".

Oh yeah? Well Cersei's going to crush the Occupy King's Landing crowd just as soon as next season begins. Those religious hippies will wish they never messed with her.

Probably, uber-mountain is gonna go on a killing spree. Wonder how that impacts the Tyrells. Especially if the Lannisters are going to war with Dorne over the killing of their daughter.

 

[Foosball God]

Red witch will save Jon imo. This is how he will get out of being in the Night's Watch. She realized that Stannis wasn't the chosen one after all and that Jon Snow could be. Jon Snow would have never left the watch, no he has an out.

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

"Kill the boy, become the man"

"Kill the boy and let the man be born"

 

[The Ref]

"Kill the boy, become the man"

Oooooooo. Forgot about that one. Yup.

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

"Kill the boy, become the man"

Oooooooo. Forgot about that one. Yup.

I fd it up

It is "Kill the boy and let the man be born"

 

[The Ref]

"Kill the boy, become the man"

Oooooooo. Forgot about that one. Yup.

I fd it upIt is "Kill the boy and let the man be born"

The gyst is the same.

 

[The Captain]

Hey guys are we sure that's the Mountain at the end? We never saw him rise and put on the armor

Lol

 

[Yankee23Fan]

I have mixed feelings about this episode.

Arya

Phenominal kill scene. Everything I probably wanted for her in her new assassin life. She was brutal, cold and even funny. The camera work was pretty perfect and there was no rape part of the scene, just enough terribleness from her target to know that he was deserving of whatever fate she handed him. And solid work of the face of the girl she poisoned at the well. But, it was also too fast and somewhat forced - which is my recurring problem with the episode. I would have liked a little more buildup to that moment as well as a little more on her change to a cold hearted killer. For as much as she was certainly going that way we really didn't see her grow into an actual assassin. As much as I was enjoying the psychological aspects of this season and with it a slight lack of actual action, I would have liked some continuation there. Looking back I don't know which of her scenes could have been sped up so it seems that 10 episodes just wasn't enough to give me everything there I wanted.

And then her punishment and the death of the faceless man. Awesome scene. Having kept up on the book thread I knew she was facing potential blindness of some sort so that didn't come off as a huge surprise. The full breadth of the faceless men though clearly hasn't even been touched yet. I'm going to assume that someone is going to go through the faces that she pulled off the dead guy to figure out if they were faces of people we have seen because they went by too quick for my brain to catch if they were.

Overal, she continues to be an amazing character. And is still 1A right behind Tyrion. IF they are really going with 7 seasons only I could see her story staying in Braavos all of next season as she truly becomes the noone she has to be.

Tyrion

I am worried. As usual he was great in every scene, limited as they were. But if next season is going to be him running Myreen with Varys, Greyworm and hot translator chick, I fear he won't get nearly the amount of screen time he deserves. I also am having a hard time figuring out the end game of him leading that city. If it goes bad, I have no idea what happens. If it goes well, does that mean he stays there? Maybe the end game that MArtin has in mind and the writers are trying to toy with is that the entire west is destroyed one way or the other and only the east remains, and Tyrion becomes a major player for a new Iron Throne in the east? Typing it I really don't know if I like it. Still, Tyrion in charge a few seasons ago was awesome to watch, so hopefully we get a lot of his character next year.

Varys

Hated that he just showed up. Another it feels forced because we are stuck in 10 episode arcs. I don't know what I would have prefered with him showing up because I wanted him back in the story, but to just show up with no explanation at all was not my favorite part.

Jorah and Dany's boyfriend

I always forget his name. The throne room was a good scene overall so no complaints there, and I like both characters enough, but I'm really not in love any more with the 2 guys on a quest story line. So who knows what happens there. Frankly, I'm wondering why they have to go look for her at all? All they know is that she is saved by and controls her dragon. What can they do to protect her that her dragon can't?

Dany

Enjoyed the Dothraki coming back in that scene. But if this turns into her roaming the countryside once again like the jews in the desert for 40 years I'm going to be annoyed. She either needs to get to the west or if she isn't going to the story tellers need to tell the viewer that somehow. I'm willing to go along for the ride, but at some point the ride gets boring if I don't know where I'm going. And not for nothing - but what's up with the other two dragons? Still locked up I know, but maybe someone should do something with them......

And, not for nothing, but the wheel that Dany wants to break? Baratheon's are pretty much wiped out and gone. The Starks are spread to the wind and no longer in Winterfell at all. The Lanisters will have no support at all inside King's Landing anymore in any way shape or form and will probably start killing a lot of people, the Tyrell's are, well, we don't know so maybe they have something, the Dorne storyline can go a billion different ways, the Boltons have an iron grip on the north now....... I don't know if that wheel is going to be able to spin any more regardless.

Sansa & Theon

Obviously Reek is dead. Good for the character. They telegraphed him finally saving her, and the death of the nutjob girlfriend was awesome - funny. Just a splat. Solid. I am assuming that their jump was done knowing that there was enough snow at the bottom that they had a chance to live, with the back of their minds telling them that this death (if they die) is better than anything the Bolton's will do to them. Again, though, this whole setup felt forced. She had that corkscrew for days/weeks, and that's the day she picks to use it? I guess we have to assume that she chose that day because Ramsey and the army was out of the city so she figured less guards to deal with. I can buy that. But with no buildup to it it just felt a little force in the same - we have to get something done in the 10th episode - kind of way. Assuming they live, where they go will be interesting. Which leads me to...

Littlefinger

Not having him show up at all for any reason was a loss. We know now that the Bolton's didn't really suffer much in that battle so it's not going to be so easy to just pick up the pieces and take Winterfell. If Sansa tried to get to the Vaile, will he be there? Will she get the Vaile to turn on Littlefinger or will she be happy to see him. No idea. And given that much of the reason that this whole story has taken place have been due to Littlefingers power plays, I would have liked to have seen something from him.

Boltons

Ramsey is going to be so pissed. His storyline next season might end up being where all the action is for the most part. His girlfriend is dead, Sansa and Theon are gone and there is nothing to do in the north now since there is no more threat from the other royal families. He is going to have nothing to do but seek revenge.

Stannis

I will give the writers credit. The moment that he sees the Bolton army coming at him and he has that look of acceptance of his fate - I actually felt a little pity for him. They did a good job of telling a story with those 5 seconds that books have pages to do. You could see the thoughts in his head as he realized this wasn't going to end well. That being said, he got off too easy for me. I would have liked him to suffer a little more, but maybe the point is that in that moment when the army was coming and later when Brienne was standing over him - he really did suffer from everything he did. Good riddance to him and his entire story line. Am I the only one that actually said, "Good," when I saw his wife hanging from a tree? I can't be, right?

Red Witch

I have no idea. I take her scene at the wall as an act but she obviously went there for a reason which gives some hope to Jon Snow next year. Some. But not much.

Sam and Gilly

I hope they just aren't in the show next season. Never liked anything about their story. And as soon as Sam left, and having read the Forbes spoiler and the book thread, I knew what was coming. Someone in this universe needs to come to the realization that you really should keep your friends as close as possible because every time they leave, bad things happen.

Jon Snow

I hope he survives somehow. I've been open in my lack of entertainment for his entire story line and the entire Knight's Watch story line up until the battle of Castle Black last year. And everything since has been awesome. It will be a shame to lose that character. I will assume that the wildlings will not take well to his murder which could set up what I always expected which was a complete destruction of the wall somehow. I can envision the knights watch being overtaken by the wildlings and them becoming the new watchers on the wall or destroying the wall somehow either purposely or as a final attack on the coming threat. Who knows. But for now the only thing standing in the way of the coming winter of death is...... Winterfell. And the Boltons will have no chance.

Cersei

Phenominal scene in every aspect. The acting was superb, the camerawork was perfect. Just everything about it was great. The High Sparrow has something else up his sleeve. I don't know what yet. I actually had the thought that when Cersei finally got inside the castle gate, that the High Sparrow would be standing there with Tommen - and we get the sense that Tommen was working with him or converted or made a deal or something to save his wife by torturing his mother. It would have really thrown Cersei for a loop and it would have given Tommen some teeth for next season. As it is now, Cersei is done as a power player save for her mutant bodyguard I'd think and Uncle Kevan is probably running the crown whether Tommen knows it or not.

Brienne

I get that we didn't see Stannis die, but Brienne has literally no reason to allow him to live so she killed him and kept her first oath. She has to go find Sansa now once she is told that she escaped. Maybe she meets up with Sansa and Theon and they all do....... something. I feel like her character is either wasted or uselss and I'm not sure which.

Dorne

The ship was still close to the shore. Why they wouldn't just turn around I don't know. Unless that is the plan next season. Maybe Jamie joins the prince in the civil war that the poison lady is going to start. Maybe Jamie becomes the ruler of Dorne. Who knows. Maybe Jamie realizes that there is nothing back at home for him anymore and stays in the east and travels to............ Myreen, to meet up with his brother. Myreen being run by Tyrion, Jamie, Greyworm, Varys and Bronn would be interesting. If Jamie doesn't kill him first. Frankly, I have no idea what to think about this entire story line. I didn't hate it like some, but still.....

Overall, I enjoyed it but felt like they just forced too many things because they had to. Another 30 minutes probably would have helped alot. But in the end, I think I have to put this season up there with my favorites of the 5. Great stuff all the way around. If they are really keeping it to 7 seasons then there is a crap ton of stuff that has to happen in the next season to make way for a final season that has to be just all out war. I'd think. I'm still wondering if the final story here isn't the complete destruction of the west and the east becoming the new center of the world of the story.

 

[TLEF316]

Red witch will save Jon imo. This is how he will get out of being in the Night's Watch. She realized that Stannis wasn't the chosen one after all and that Jon Snow could be. Jon Snow would have never left the watch, no he has an out.

Yup. Especially since the vow is "it (his watch) shall not end until my death".

If he dies and is brought back to life, he's free of his vow.

Really hope this is true. REALLY annoyed that we need to wait 10 and half months to find out.

 

[kentric]

Hey guys are we sure that's the Mountain at the end? We never saw him rise and put on the armor

Lol

Its a valid question following up on the infamous Brienne candle conspiracy.

 

[cstu]

After Jon Snow gets shivved...

Wife: "Well, there's no reason for me to watch this show anymore."

 

[Drifter]

Do you guys even watch the ####### show? Jesus Christ

at this point its kinda hard to keep the schtik separate from the real questions people have.

Then answer my question? I noticed you skipped it to move on to another.

im sorry whats your question? How do we know that Brienne is waiting for a sign to rescue Sansa? Its inferred by her actions of watching & waiting.

Did Brienne have a scene where she was told about the light in the window?Is Brienne hanging out with Winterfell citizens?

And again, logically speaking, why would Winterfell citizens trust this woman even if they did meet and chat? She's not from the North, so they're just going to tell her their plans to save one of their own?

Inferred by watching and waiting? She's been following her forever. There's no evidence Brienne ever spoke to a single citizen of Winterfell and then on top of that they're all just going to chat about their motives?

Maybe Hippling but Brienne had a conversation with some old codger when she first got to Winterfell telling him that she was sworn to Catelyn.

 

[tonydead]

Do you guys even watch the ####### show? Jesus Christ

at this point its kinda hard to keep the schtik separate from the real questions people have.

Then answer my question? I noticed you skipped it to move on to another.

im sorry whats your question? How do we know that Brienne is waiting for a sign to rescue Sansa? Its inferred by her actions of watching & waiting.

Did Brienne have a scene where she was told about the light in the window?Is Brienne hanging out with Winterfell citizens?

And again, logically speaking, why would Winterfell citizens trust this woman even if they did meet and chat? She's not from the North, so they're just going to tell her their plans to save one of their own?

Inferred by watching and waiting? She's been following her forever. There's no evidence Brienne ever spoke to a single citizen of Winterfell and then on top of that they're all just going to chat about their motives?

link

 

[timschochet]

I don't think Jon Snow's coming back.

I think next season is going to be one of epic, awesome doom as the White Walkers easily overwhelm the wall and head straight for Winterfell, destroying everything in their path.

 

[culdeus]

Does it have to be snowing for the walkers to advance? Or does winter end up just going everywhere?