Game of Thrones, tv only, books don't exist, no backstory...NERDS already ruining a series that hasn't started (5 Viewers)

[Ilov80s]

I suppose on this show, anything's possible.

But as disappointed as I was by his death, I don't want him to return. Resurrections in fiction and TV shows and movies are almost always lame. It tends to happen a lot, and it destroys the impetus of the death in the first place. That's why Star Trek III was such a terrible movie- because if Spock can come back, what's the ####### point of him dying in the first place?

Dead people should stay dead.

Take that up with Jesus H Christ, Ace.

Yeah, well my people didn't really enjoy that story either.

It's the most popular story in human history though. I know we aren't suppossed to mention books here, but that one sold a lot of copies.

Well, hopefully the writers of the show will continue to channel George R.R. Martin, and not C.S. Lewis.

George has already demonstrated characters can come back to life.

 

[KarmaPolice]

Why would it be lame?

because we all watched him die.

They showed him dying.

 

[KarmaPolice]

I wish they'd done some body double/cgi magic on some of the crowd members who chose to expose themselves during the walk of shame.

The wangs were too small for you?

 

[Ilov80s]

I wish they'd done some body double/cgi magic on some of the crowd members who chose to expose themselves during the walk of shame.

The wangs were too small for you?

That giant Hodor wang set the bar high.

 

[KarmaPolice]

I wish they'd done some body double/cgi magic on some of the crowd members who chose to expose themselves during the walk of shame.

The wangs were too small for you?

That giant Hodor wang set the bar high.

Very true.

 

[Ilov80s]

Speaking of setting the nudity bar high, there can't be a show with better nudity in both quantity and quality. The bottom 5 would crush most shows top 5.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

I suppose on this show, anything's possible.

But as disappointed as I was by his death, I don't want him to return. Resurrections in fiction and TV shows and movies are almost always lame. It tends to happen a lot, and it destroys the impetus of the death in the first place. That's why Star Trek III was such a terrible movie- because if Spock can come back, what's the ####### point of him dying in the first place?

Dead people should stay dead.

Take that up with Jesus H Christ, Ace.

Yeah, well my people didn't really enjoy that story either.

It's the most popular story in human history though. I know we aren't suppossed to mention books here, but that one sold a lot of copies.

Well, hopefully the writers of the show will continue to channel George R.R. Martin, and not C.S. Lewis.

The Red Tittays are there for a reason. Jon is clearly coming back.

 

[Frostillicus]

Speaking of setting the nudity bar high, there can't be a show with better nudity in both quantity and quality. The bottom 5 would crush most shows top 5.

I like bottom.

 

[GregR]

Why would it be lame?

because we all watched him die.

Yeah. We also watched the leader of the Brotherhood without Banners die. And be resurrected. By a Red Priest. And saw the evidence that it had happened multiple times. You know who else saw that? The Red Woman, who was there and witnessed it. Even she was surprised by that power.The same Red Woman who happened to make her way into Castle Black like fifteen minutes before Snow's murder, instead of getting her comeuppance with Stannis.

Aemon told John "Kill the boy. And let the man be born".

Sam told the kid, about John "he always comes back".

Do you think all of this is just coincidence? They're bread crumbs that you're supposed to be smart enough to pick up and follow.

Nevermind the fact that the significance of his secret parentage, that we all think we've figured out, is way too important to just kill off with no payoff.

Did you catch that the decorative woodwork on top of the wildling building at Hardhome spelled out "Morgan"?

 

[shadyridr]

I suppose on this show, anything's possible.

But as disappointed as I was by his death, I don't want him to return. Resurrections in fiction and TV shows and movies are almost always lame. It tends to happen a lot, and it destroys the impetus of the death in the first place. That's why Star Trek III was such a terrible movie- because if Spock can come back, what's the ####### point of him dying in the first place?

Dead people should stay dead.

but what if that was their story all along

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Dead people should stay dead.

You realize that if they followed this, there's no show, right? #whitewalkers

 

[shadyridr]

Dead people should stay dead.

You realize that if they followed this, there's no show, right? #whitewalkers

battle of hardhome wouldve sucked

 

[Drifter]

Don't know if it's been brought up but it occurred to me that Jon's death and potential resurrection would technically free him from his Oath to the Night's Watch.

 

[belljr]

So dumb question.....

was sone of the guys with the Bolton's the defectors from Stannis

 

[Thunderlips]

So dumb question.....

was sone of the guys with the Bolton's the defectors from Stannis

It's not just Bolton men. As Warden of the North, he'd have some semblance of control over all the other Lords, so in theory he could have called them to fight. In addition, (relatively bookish, but I think they glanced on it in the show) the men of the Lord that Robb beheaded (Karstark) for killing the two Lannister boys became allied with Bolton; to the point where they helped Bolton kill all those other Northerners at the Red Wedding.

 

[KarmaPolice]

I suppose on this show, anything's possible.

But as disappointed as I was by his death, I don't want him to return. Resurrections in fiction and TV shows and movies are almost always lame. It tends to happen a lot, and it destroys the impetus of the death in the first place. That's why Star Trek III was such a terrible movie- because if Spock can come back, what's the ####### point of him dying in the first place?

Dead people should stay dead.

Take that up with Jesus H Christ, Ace.

Yeah, well my people didn't really enjoy that story either.

It's the most popular story in human history though. I know we aren't suppossed to mention books here, but that one sold a lot of copies.

Well, hopefully the writers of the show will continue to channel George R.R. Martin, and not C.S. Lewis.

Martin has gotten into the bad habit of people coming back or being killed off scene to lead to b.s. speculation too. Went from everyone dying to now too many stiil feel in play and the "deaths" not having the same impact.

 

[TenTimes]

Who has come 'back from the dead' so far besides the LoL follower who faught Hound? Dany did but we had clues. There were clues for Mountain too. Who am I forgetting?

 

[shadyridr]

Dany never died

 

[belljr]

So I'll ask again.when the guy from Stannis army said half the men left and took all the horses. Where they in that battle?

 

[Ilov80s]

Who has come 'back from the dead' so far besides the LoL follower who faught Hound? Dany did but we had clues. There were clues for Mountain too. Who am I forgetting?

All the white walker people. 3 episodes we just saw thousands of people raised from the dead.

 

[TripItUp]

So I'll ask again.when the guy from Stannis army said half the men left and took all the horses. Where they in that battle?

NO

 

[KarmaPolice]

So I'll ask again.when the guy from Stannis army said half the men left and took all the horses. Where they in that battle?

NO

yes

 

[bostonfred]

Who has come 'back from the dead' so far besides the LoL follower who faught Hound? Dany did but we had clues. There were clues for Mountain too. Who am I forgetting?

Carl drogo. They've also ended episodes with did he die cliffhangers, like bran in the first episode.

They've done it a ton of times with Tyrion, who was sentenced to death twice, knocked out in one war, stabbed in the face in the other, and I'm probably forgetting others. When he drowned and was touched by a stone man, they faded to black and then showed him coughing up water.

Danny walked in to a funeral pyre and came out naked with dragons.

 

[bostonfred]

Bran and Rick on were fake burnt to death

 

[sdp1226]

So I'll ask again.when the guy from Stannis army said half the men left and took all the horses. Where they in that battle?

NO

yes

Well that clarifies things.

 

[doowain]

After Jon Snow gets shivved...

Wife: "Well, there's no reason for me to watch this show anymore."

Good. I'm not the only one.

She was absolutely heartbroken when Rob was killed. But "at least there was still Jon Snow". Good thing we still have that hunk Tarly.

I'm sure it's already been brought up here, but she's hoping the red witch saves him/brings him back.

 

[Drifter]

With the speculation of Jon's true lineage and the fact that his sworn oath to the Night's Watch would keep him from any claim, his death and potential resurrection is actually a very useful plot device. The oath:

"Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death. I shall take no wife, hold no lands, father no children. I shall wear no crowns and win no glory. I shall live and die at my post. I am the sword in the darkness. I am the watcher on the walls. I am the shield that guards the realms of men. I pledge my life and honor to the Night's Watch, for this night and all the nights to come."

 

[Harry Manback]

Snow is dead

Stannis is dead

Cersei's daughter is dead

The Dragon is dead

George Martin "Anyone,anytime,anywhere"

Dragon is dead?

 

[Dan Lambskin]

I'm pretty sure he was just taking a nap

 

[skol asylum]

With the speculation of Jon's true lineage and the fact that his sworn oath to the Night's Watch would keep him from any claim, his death and potential resurrection is actually a very useful plot device. The oath:

"Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death. I shall take no wife, hold no lands, father no children. I shall wear no crowns and win no glory. I shall live and die at my post. I am the sword in the darkness. I am the watcher on the walls. I am the shield that guards the realms of men. I pledge my life and honor to the Night's Watch, for this night and all the nights to come."

Yeah, well even if he doesn't die from his attack i think the simple fact he was betrayed by his brothers in such a horrible act might cause him to say to hell with his oath.

 

[TenTimes]

Bran and Rick on were fake burnt to death

This is a good one.. although I thought I remembered us being aware that Bran/Rickon were on the run when the burnt bodies were presented? On the others, we'll agree to disagree.. I wouldn't consider Tyrion to have been 'brought back' a single time up to this point, but that's my opinion. Some narrow escapes on his part where maybe he 'should' have died, but I'm okay with that. I was actually going to use Drogo to support my claim that people on their way to death, die. He came back in a dream sequence or something and that was it.

I don't know.. to me there's a clear difference in how they exited the Sansa/Theon & Hound scenes versus how they exited the Stannis scene, but I'm obviously in the minority on that one.

 

[Harry Manback]

Bran and Rick on were fake burnt to death

This is a good one.. although I thought I remembered us being aware that Bran/Rickon were on the run when the burnt bodies were presented? On the others, we'll agree to disagree.. I wouldn't consider Tyrion to have been 'brought back' a single time up to this point, but that's my opinion. Some narrow escapes on his part where maybe he 'should' have died, but I'm okay with that. I was actually going to use Drogo to support my claim that people on their way to death, die. He came back in a dream sequence or something and that was it.

I don't know.. to me there's a clear difference in how they exited the Sansa/Theon & Hound scenes versus how they exited the Stannis scene, but I'm obviously in the minority on that one.

I believe the show initially led us to believe they were caught, only to later reveal that was not the case (might've even been same episode)

 

[Ilov80s]

Bran and Rick on were fake burnt to death

This is a good one.. although I thought I remembered us being aware that Bran/Rickon were on the run when the burnt bodies were presented? On the others, we'll agree to disagree.. I wouldn't consider Tyrion to have been 'brought back' a single time up to this point, but that's my opinion. Some narrow escapes on his part where maybe he 'should' have died, but I'm okay with that. I was actually going to use Drogo to support my claim that people on their way to death, die. He came back in a dream sequence or something and that was it.

I don't know.. to me there's a clear difference in how they exited the Sansa/Theon & Hound scenes versus how they exited the Stannis scene, but I'm obviously in the minority on that one.

I believe the show initially led us to believe they were caught, only to later reveal that was not the case (might've even been same episode)

The episode ended with us suppossed to believe they were killed, but I think most people didn't believe it was them since they didn't explicitly show it.

 

[TenTimes]

Bran and Rick on were fake burnt to death

This is a good one.. although I thought I remembered us being aware that Bran/Rickon were on the run when the burnt bodies were presented? On the others, we'll agree to disagree.. I wouldn't consider Tyrion to have been 'brought back' a single time up to this point, but that's my opinion. Some narrow escapes on his part where maybe he 'should' have died, but I'm okay with that. I was actually going to use Drogo to support my claim that people on their way to death, die. He came back in a dream sequence or something and that was it.

I don't know.. to me there's a clear difference in how they exited the Sansa/Theon & Hound scenes versus how they exited the Stannis scene, but I'm obviously in the minority on that one.

I believe the show initially led us to believe they were caught, only to later reveal that was not the case (might've even been same episode)

The episode ended with us suppossed to believe they were killed, but I think most people didn't believe it was them since they didn't explicitly show it.

Gotcha. I remember "an" episode ending with a reveal of Rick/Bran hiding out in a dark nook of the Winterfell castle, must have been later a later episode than when they showed the burnt bodies. My bad.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Aren't we all dying in the end?

 

[Aerial Assault]

You know, I wonder if the red witch might bring Jon back. Just a thought, haven't seen it raised, thanks

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

I'd like to kill this thread and then bring it back; but its changed.

 

[LAUNCH]

I wonder why they used such a different body type on Cersei. When you look at the stills, her neck looks like she's part giraffe.

 

[Drifter]

With the speculation of Jon's true lineage and the fact that his sworn oath to the Night's Watch would keep him from any claim, his death and potential resurrection is actually a very useful plot device. The oath:

"Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death. I shall take no wife, hold no lands, father no children. I shall wear no crowns and win no glory. I shall live and die at my post. I am the sword in the darkness. I am the watcher on the walls. I am the shield that guards the realms of men. I pledge my life and honor to the Night's Watch, for this night and all the nights to come."

Yeah, well even if he doesn't die from his attack i think the simple fact he was betrayed by his brothers in such a horrible act might cause him to say to hell with his oath.

Doubt that. Wouldn't be in line with the character who wouldn't leave to avenge his father, support his brother, avenge his younger brothers, etc etc etc. Plus all of the NW didn't betray him. Just the faction that had always opposed him.

 

[Thunderlips]

So I'll ask again.when the guy from Stannis army said half the men left and took all the horses. Where they in that battle?

NO

yes

No. You didn't see the post credit scene of those guys with the horses riding to the sea and then meeting up with a rowing Gendry who said "I got a proposition for you chaps".....Book readers speculate that that's where Gendry gets his gang to make a push for the Iron Throne.

 

[bostonfred]

Of course the other side is that this was always a show about the white walkers. they've set up multiple ways for the show to end, people have theories and they've given lots red herrings, so you can say, I know what's going to happen, ned stark is going to save the world. Oops, nope. Maybe rob? OK, how about stannis? Maybe John snow and samwise gamgee? OK, how about just Sam? Or maybe johmbie snow? Well its got to be Danny. Or bran. Or arya. And so it's like a reverse mystery story, where you're pretty sure the world doesn't end in a zombie apocalypse, and you're just figuring out which of the many plot lines get there and how all these pieces work together to foil one character but help another. Not a whodunnit, but whosgonnadoit.

 

[bostonfred]

I wonder why they used such a different body type on Cersei. When you look at the stills, her neck looks like she's part giraffe.

who else besides launch went back to catch a jerk to cerseishame? I haven't yet but I probably will.

 

[Spin]

So I'll ask again.when the guy from Stannis army said half the men left and took all the horses. Where they in that battle?

NO

yes

Yes, they turned on Stannis. They were sell swords. They got bought out.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

So I'll ask again.when the guy from Stannis army said half the men left and took all the horses. Where they in that battle?

What the #### does it matter?

 

[Spin]

So I'll ask again.when the guy from Stannis army said half the men left and took all the horses. Where they in that battle?

What the #### does it matter?

Because for being the "greatest military general" he sure got completely owned on on his "Siege of Winterfell".

 

[Homer J Simpson]

So I'll ask again.when the guy from Stannis army said half the men left and took all the horses. Where they in that battle?

What the #### does it matter?

Because for being the "greatest military general" he sure got completely owned on on his "Siege of Winterfell".

Probably because half his men left and took all the horses.

 

[belljr]

So I'll ask again.when the guy from Stannis army said half the men left and took all the horses. Where they in that battle?

What the #### does it matter?

was just curious if i missed something

 

[fantasycurse42]

Snow is dead

Stannis is dead

Cersei's daughter is dead

The Dragon is dead

George Martin "Anyone,anytime,anywhere"

Dragon is dead?

I thought it was just wounded.

 

[Thunderlips]

So I'll ask again.when the guy from Stannis army said half the men left and took all the horses. Where they in that battle?

What the #### does it matter?

Because for being the "greatest military general" he sure got completely owned on on his "Siege of Winterfell".

He ain't William Wallace. Kind of hard to rally starving, freezing horseless men against fed, warm, horsed men.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

So I'll ask again.when the guy from Stannis army said half the men left and took all the horses. Where they in that battle?

What the #### does it matter?

was just curious if i missed something

You didn't.