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Game of Thrones, tv only, books don't exist, no backstory...NERDS already ruining a series that hasn't started (12 Viewers)

The guy playing Stannis nailed that "#### me.....oh well" look he gave when he saw the horses.
He really did a great job this episode. Dont think hed of taken Winterfell even if he had his full army, he was that outmatched. Gotta wonder when the red witch realized this or whether she possibly knew all along.

 
So I'll ask again.when the guy from Stannis army said half the men left and took all the horses. Where they in that battle?
What the #### does it matter?
Because for being the "greatest military general" he sure got completely owned on on his "Siege of Winterfell".
He ain't William Wallace. Kind of hard to rally starving, freezing horseless men against fed, warm, horsed men.
plus Ramsey burned their siege weapons and food.

they didn't have a chance, even if the guys with horses had stayed. boltons just needed to stay in the castle and let team Stannis freeze and starve to death.

 
So I'll ask again.when the guy from Stannis army said half the men left and took all the horses. Where they in that battle?
What the #### does it matter?
Because for being the "greatest military general" he sure got completely owned on on his "Siege of Winterfell".
The show writers are sloppy.
Sloppiest part of the eipisode was Brienne conveniently finding Stannis alone in the woods. Sure, nobody on team Bolton would be looking for the commander of the army that marched on them except a couple rogue kids.

 
So I'll ask again.when the guy from Stannis army said half the men left and took all the horses. Where they in that battle?
What the #### does it matter?
Because for being the "greatest military general" he sure got completely owned on on his "Siege of Winterfell".
He ain't William Wallace. Kind of hard to rally starving, freezing horseless men against fed, warm, horsed men.
plus Ramsey burned their siege weapons and food.

they didn't have a chance, even if the guys with horses had stayed. boltons just needed to stay in the castle and let team Stannis freeze and starve to death.
After he burned his daughter at the stake, he had no choice but to play this til the end. Red Witch left and he still pushed ahead with that rag tag army. By not taking Winterfell, he sacrificed her for nothing.

 
Sloppiest part of the eipisode was Brienne conveniently finding Stannis alone in the woods. Sure, nobody on team Bolton would be looking for the commander of the army that marched on them except a couple rogue kids.
It definitely would have been interesting if it'd been Ramsey who found him.

 
fruity pebbles said:
Mile High said:
Spin said:
Homer J Simpson said:
belljr said:
So I'll ask again.when the guy from Stannis army said half the men left and took all the horses. Where they in that battle?
What the #### does it matter?
Because for being the "greatest military general" he sure got completely owned on on his "Siege of Winterfell".
The show writers are sloppy.
Sloppiest part of the eipisode was Brienne conveniently finding Stannis alone in the woods. Sure, nobody on team Bolton would be looking for the commander of the army that marched on them except a couple rogue kids.
He seems to always find a way out alive in those giant battles. At the battle of BlackWater, wasn't he amongst the men up front and still managed to make it out alive.

 
If Stannis doesn't sacrafice his daughter he goes back to castle black and perhaps jon snow doesn't get murdered and stays at Castle Black to fulfill his oath. But since that never happens,jon gets murdered, the red witch heads back to castle black to bring him back and he will be the one burning the Bolton banners. Her vision comes true due to her vision.hmm

 
He seems to always find a way out alive in those giant battles. At the battle of BlackWater, wasn't he amongst the men up front and still managed to make it out alive.
Yes, he actually climbed a ladder and was on the wall taking archers out, leading the way too.

 
TenTimes said:
bostonfred said:
Bran and Rick on were fake burnt to death
This is a good one.. although I thought I remembered us being aware that Bran/Rickon were on the run when the burnt bodies were presented? On the others, we'll agree to disagree.. I wouldn't consider Tyrion to have been 'brought back' a single time up to this point, but that's my opinion. Some narrow escapes on his part where maybe he 'should' have died, but I'm okay with that. I was actually going to use Drogo to support my claim that people on their way to death, die. He came back in a dream sequence or something and that was it.

I don't know.. to me there's a clear difference in how they exited the Sansa/Theon & Hound scenes versus how they exited the Stannis scene, but I'm obviously in the minority on that one.
The only reason I can think for keeping him alive would be to have him confess that he killed Renly with black magic. Brianne has been at the very least suspected of killing him, and in some cases blatantly accused.

 
TenTimes said:
bostonfred said:
Bran and Rick on were fake burnt to death
This is a good one.. although I thought I remembered us being aware that Bran/Rickon were on the run when the burnt bodies were presented? On the others, we'll agree to disagree.. I wouldn't consider Tyrion to have been 'brought back' a single time up to this point, but that's my opinion. Some narrow escapes on his part where maybe he 'should' have died, but I'm okay with that. I was actually going to use Drogo to support my claim that people on their way to death, die. He came back in a dream sequence or something and that was it.

I don't know.. to me there's a clear difference in how they exited the Sansa/Theon & Hound scenes versus how they exited the Stannis scene, but I'm obviously in the minority on that one.
The only reason I can think for keeping him alive would be to have him confess that he killed Renly with black magic. Brianne has been at the very least suspected of killing him, and in some cases blatantly accused.
That's a pretty good reason not to kill him.

 
TenTimes said:
bostonfred said:
Bran and Rick on were fake burnt to death
This is a good one.. although I thought I remembered us being aware that Bran/Rickon were on the run when the burnt bodies were presented? On the others, we'll agree to disagree.. I wouldn't consider Tyrion to have been 'brought back' a single time up to this point, but that's my opinion. Some narrow escapes on his part where maybe he 'should' have died, but I'm okay with that. I was actually going to use Drogo to support my claim that people on their way to death, die. He came back in a dream sequence or something and that was it.

I don't know.. to me there's a clear difference in how they exited the Sansa/Theon & Hound scenes versus how they exited the Stannis scene, but I'm obviously in the minority on that one.
The only reason I can think for keeping him alive would be to have him confess that he killed Renly with black magic. Brianne has been at the very least suspected of killing him, and in some cases blatantly accused.
That's a pretty good reason not to kill him.
I think him saying "do your duty" will remind her that she is in this for the Stark girls. Maybe she tries to do an exchange for Sansa or something ?

 
TenTimes said:
bostonfred said:
Bran and Rick on were fake burnt to death
This is a good one.. although I thought I remembered us being aware that Bran/Rickon were on the run when the burnt bodies were presented? On the others, we'll agree to disagree.. I wouldn't consider Tyrion to have been 'brought back' a single time up to this point, but that's my opinion. Some narrow escapes on his part where maybe he 'should' have died, but I'm okay with that. I was actually going to use Drogo to support my claim that people on their way to death, die. He came back in a dream sequence or something and that was it.

I don't know.. to me there's a clear difference in how they exited the Sansa/Theon & Hound scenes versus how they exited the Stannis scene, but I'm obviously in the minority on that one.
The only reason I can think for keeping him alive would be to have him confess that he killed Renly with black magic. Brianne has been at the very least suspected of killing him, and in some cases blatantly accused.
That's a pretty good reason not to kill him.
I think him saying "do your duty" will remind her that she is in this for the Stark girls. Maybe she tries to do an exchange for Sansa or something ?
She couldn't be stupid enough to think the Boltons would honor something like that could she?

 
TenTimes said:
bostonfred said:
Bran and Rick on were fake burnt to death
This is a good one.. although I thought I remembered us being aware that Bran/Rickon were on the run when the burnt bodies were presented? On the others, we'll agree to disagree.. I wouldn't consider Tyrion to have been 'brought back' a single time up to this point, but that's my opinion. Some narrow escapes on his part where maybe he 'should' have died, but I'm okay with that. I was actually going to use Drogo to support my claim that people on their way to death, die. He came back in a dream sequence or something and that was it.

I don't know.. to me there's a clear difference in how they exited the Sansa/Theon & Hound scenes versus how they exited the Stannis scene, but I'm obviously in the minority on that one.
The only reason I can think for keeping him alive would be to have him confess that he killed Renly with black magic. Brianne has been at the very least suspected of killing him, and in some cases blatantly accused.
That's a pretty good reason not to kill him.
I think him saying "do your duty" will remind her that she is in this for the Stark girls. Maybe she tries to do an exchange for Sansa or something ?
Roose doesn't care about Stannis, he cares about ruling the North. He needs Sansa for that.

 
TenTimes said:
bostonfred said:
Bran and Rick on were fake burnt to death
This is a good one.. although I thought I remembered us being aware that Bran/Rickon were on the run when the burnt bodies were presented? On the others, we'll agree to disagree.. I wouldn't consider Tyrion to have been 'brought back' a single time up to this point, but that's my opinion. Some narrow escapes on his part where maybe he 'should' have died, but I'm okay with that. I was actually going to use Drogo to support my claim that people on their way to death, die. He came back in a dream sequence or something and that was it.

I don't know.. to me there's a clear difference in how they exited the Sansa/Theon & Hound scenes versus how they exited the Stannis scene, but I'm obviously in the minority on that one.
The only reason I can think for keeping him alive would be to have him confess that he killed Renly with black magic. Brianne has been at the very least suspected of killing him, and in some cases blatantly accused.
:goodposting: I like this thinking. Can't get that image of Brienne swinging Oathkeeper right at him out of my head, but I can pretend she just wanted to see if he'd flinch :hifive:

 
TenTimes said:
bostonfred said:
Bran and Rick on were fake burnt to death
This is a good one.. although I thought I remembered us being aware that Bran/Rickon were on the run when the burnt bodies were presented? On the others, we'll agree to disagree.. I wouldn't consider Tyrion to have been 'brought back' a single time up to this point, but that's my opinion. Some narrow escapes on his part where maybe he 'should' have died, but I'm okay with that. I was actually going to use Drogo to support my claim that people on their way to death, die. He came back in a dream sequence or something and that was it.

I don't know.. to me there's a clear difference in how they exited the Sansa/Theon & Hound scenes versus how they exited the Stannis scene, but I'm obviously in the minority on that one.
The only reason I can think for keeping him alive would be to have him confess that he killed Renly with black magic. Brianne has been at the very least suspected of killing him, and in some cases blatantly accused.
That's a pretty good reason not to kill him.
I was sure she killed him but you guys have me leaning a little now. Maybe none of those we think are dead, are dead.
 
fruity pebbles said:
El Floppo said:
Thunderlips said:
Spin said:
Homer J Simpson said:
belljr said:
So I'll ask again.when the guy from Stannis army said half the men left and took all the horses. Where they in that battle?
What the #### does it matter?
Because for being the "greatest military general" he sure got completely owned on on his "Siege of Winterfell".
He ain't William Wallace. Kind of hard to rally starving, freezing horseless men against fed, warm, horsed men.
plus Ramsey burned their siege weapons and food.

they didn't have a chance, even if the guys with horses had stayed. boltons just needed to stay in the castle and let team Stannis freeze and starve to death.
After he burned his daughter at the stake, he had no choice but to play this til the end. Red Witch left and he still pushed ahead with that rag tag army. By not taking Winterfell, he sacrificed her for nothing.
oh- I agree he didn't have a choice... other than full blown retreat to castle black (which, IIRC, was too far without horses or food).

 
TenTimes said:
bostonfred said:
Bran and Rick on were fake burnt to death
This is a good one.. although I thought I remembered us being aware that Bran/Rickon were on the run when the burnt bodies were presented? On the others, we'll agree to disagree.. I wouldn't consider Tyrion to have been 'brought back' a single time up to this point, but that's my opinion. Some narrow escapes on his part where maybe he 'should' have died, but I'm okay with that. I was actually going to use Drogo to support my claim that people on their way to death, die. He came back in a dream sequence or something and that was it.

I don't know.. to me there's a clear difference in how they exited the Sansa/Theon & Hound scenes versus how they exited the Stannis scene, but I'm obviously in the minority on that one.
The only reason I can think for keeping him alive would be to have him confess that he killed Renly with black magic. Brianne has been at the very least suspected of killing him, and in some cases blatantly accused.
:goodposting: I like this thinking. Can't get that image of Brienne swinging Oathkeeper right at him out of my head, but I can pretend she just wanted to see if he'd flinch :hifive:
nah man, she sentenced him to death

 
TenTimes said:
bostonfred said:
Bran and Rick on were fake burnt to death
This is a good one.. although I thought I remembered us being aware that Bran/Rickon were on the run when the burnt bodies were presented? On the others, we'll agree to disagree.. I wouldn't consider Tyrion to have been 'brought back' a single time up to this point, but that's my opinion. Some narrow escapes on his part where maybe he 'should' have died, but I'm okay with that. I was actually going to use Drogo to support my claim that people on their way to death, die. He came back in a dream sequence or something and that was it.

I don't know.. to me there's a clear difference in how they exited the Sansa/Theon & Hound scenes versus how they exited the Stannis scene, but I'm obviously in the minority on that one.
The only reason I can think for keeping him alive would be to have him confess that he killed Renly with black magic. Brianne has been at the very least suspected of killing him, and in some cases blatantly accused.
:goodposting: I like this thinking. Can't get that image of Brienne swinging Oathkeeper right at him out of my head, but I can pretend she just wanted to see if he'd flinch :hifive:
nah man, she sentenced him to death
Doesn't mean she has to kill him right then and there.

 
TenTimes said:
bostonfred said:
Bran and Rick on were fake burnt to death
This is a good one.. although I thought I remembered us being aware that Bran/Rickon were on the run when the burnt bodies were presented? On the others, we'll agree to disagree.. I wouldn't consider Tyrion to have been 'brought back' a single time up to this point, but that's my opinion. Some narrow escapes on his part where maybe he 'should' have died, but I'm okay with that. I was actually going to use Drogo to support my claim that people on their way to death, die. He came back in a dream sequence or something and that was it.

I don't know.. to me there's a clear difference in how they exited the Sansa/Theon & Hound scenes versus how they exited the Stannis scene, but I'm obviously in the minority on that one.
The only reason I can think for keeping him alive would be to have him confess that he killed Renly with black magic. Brianne has been at the very least suspected of killing him, and in some cases blatantly accused.
That's a pretty good reason not to kill him.
I think him saying "do your duty" will remind her that she is in this for the Stark girls. Maybe she tries to do an exchange for Sansa or something ?
this

 
TenTimes said:
bostonfred said:
Bran and Rick on were fake burnt to death
This is a good one.. although I thought I remembered us being aware that Bran/Rickon were on the run when the burnt bodies were presented? On the others, we'll agree to disagree.. I wouldn't consider Tyrion to have been 'brought back' a single time up to this point, but that's my opinion. Some narrow escapes on his part where maybe he 'should' have died, but I'm okay with that. I was actually going to use Drogo to support my claim that people on their way to death, die. He came back in a dream sequence or something and that was it.

I don't know.. to me there's a clear difference in how they exited the Sansa/Theon & Hound scenes versus how they exited the Stannis scene, but I'm obviously in the minority on that one.
The only reason I can think for keeping him alive would be to have him confess that he killed Renly with black magic. Brianne has been at the very least suspected of killing him, and in some cases blatantly accused.
That's a pretty good reason not to kill him.
I think him saying "do your duty" will remind her that she is in this for the Stark girls. Maybe she tries to do an exchange for Sansa or something ?
She couldn't be stupid enough to think the Boltons would honor something like that could she?
Brianne is not known for her mental powers. I just thought line stuck out when he said it.

 
So Roos took the north by force and everybody in the north just automatically follows him?
There's some bookishness in that question.
Well, when the alternative was being flayed.. Besides, didn't Tywin grant Bolton as Warden of the North for his part in the Red Wedding? He didn't exactly take it by force, it was given to him.
And then there is Ramsey who flayed at least one person alive in front of his kids because he wouldn't pay his taxes after they took over. That might have made a few people come to the conclusion that just doing what they say isn't so bad.

 
Here's how i understand it

Robb took 20000 soldiers - most of the north's armies south

Bruce Bolton was one if his advisors

Greyjoy daughter attacked with 30 ships

Theon attacked a random port near winterfell

bran sent all of winterfells remaining soldiers to the port

theon captured winterfell

Robb sent 500 soldiers to retake it

They sent 2000 soldiers to trick tywin, all of them died

They sent 18000 to capture Jamie

some died

Then a bunch more fought and died

then bruce, the guy that owns the bridge, and tywin cooked up the red wedding

lots more soldiers got killed

Bruce got control over the north by decree from kings landing as a reward for his help

Theon lost his dong

they spent more time showing the dong thing

 
If I could bring one outside TV show character into the GoT world, it would be Hank Shrader from Breaking Bad. There really arent any drugs in GoT so he could instead focus his time on his roc... mineral collection. im sure there's lots of interesting minerals in westeros and he'd probably have a good collection of dragonglass for when the ice zombies show up at his door. he'd also provide lots of comic relief like refering to the dornians as beaners or something. i think he'd be a pretty chill dude in the GoT world.

 
If I could bring one outside TV show character into the GoT world, it would be Hank Shrader from Breaking Bad. There really arent any drugs in GoT so he could instead focus his time on his roc... mineral collection. im sure there's lots of interesting minerals in westeros and he'd probably have a good collection of dragonglass for when the ice zombies show up at his door. he'd also provide lots of comic relief like refering to the dornians as beaners or something. i think he'd be a pretty chill dude in the GoT world.
How about Hank Hill?"Damnit, Bobby. Get over here and help me deliver all this propane and propane accessories. Winter is coming."

 
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