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Game of Thrones, tv only, books don't exist, no backstory...NERDS already ruining a series that hasn't started (12 Viewers)

Neo said:
But isn't this common knowledge after the Battle of the Blackwater?  
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How much did they use, and how much is left?

Probably going to need more than they currently have to fight the White Walkers - so it makes sense that Cersei would burn the Sept down, along with everything else in Kings Landing

 
Spin said:
Well, more rumored, or why would they leave it down there? And I think the quantity is what was the unknown
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Go back and watch the original scene, pretty sure they were discussing someone, not the wild fire. I may check it out since I don't recall the exact conversation when they sent out the kids to find more. As Neo said, I can't imagine the Lannister clan not already knowing about the wild fire. Jamie had to know about it and we know Tyrion found out/used it (so lots of people know). I would bet $$$ that Tywin knew from Jamie, but could easily see those two keeping Tyrion out of the loop. Pretty sure Jamie would have mentioned it to Cersei. Tyrion definitely didn't know the quantity before he used it.

 
Possible things the "rumors" could be about

- wildfire located around the city
- they found Gendry on his boat and will reveal that he's Robert's true heir
- word has to be getting around about a dwarf running Mereen.  Could it be related to this?
- http://i.imgur.com/Gdjayk1.png

 
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stbugs said:
Go back and watch the original scene, pretty sure they were discussing someone, not the wild fire. I may check it out since I don't recall the exact conversation when they sent out the kids to find more. As Neo said, I can't imagine the Lannister clan not already knowing about the wild fire. Jamie had to know about it and we know Tyrion found out/used it (so lots of people know). I would bet $$$ that Tywin knew from Jamie, but could easily see those two keeping Tyrion out of the loop. Pretty sure Jamie would have mentioned it to Cersei. Tyrion definitely didn't know the quantity before he used it.
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I think it's either that they're getting info from Mereen and they're finding out about Tyrion/Dragons/Dothraki etc. or that the High Sparrow was a kid fondler or something else that would kill his rep.  The nature of the conversation doesn't lead itself to the idea that they know Varys is coming back, Wild Fire, they know the true killer of Joffery etc.

 
Thunderlips said:
I think it's either that they're getting info from Mereen and they're finding out about Tyrion/Dragons/Dothraki etc. or that the High Sparrow was a kid fondler or something else that would kill his rep.  The nature of the conversation doesn't lead itself to the idea that they know Varys is coming back, Wild Fire, they know the true killer of Joffery etc.
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Agreed, based on that being the conversation right after the trial by combat, one would think it has to have something to do with the High Sparrow. If it was longer term thinking (like Dany or wildfire) then they would have been talking about what the heck to do now that trial by combat is off the table.

 
stbugs said:
Agreed, based on that being the conversation right after the trial by combat, one would think it has to have something to do with the High Sparrow. If it was longer term thinking (like Dany or wildfire) then they would have been talking about what the heck to do now that trial by combat is off the table.
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I rewatched it last night and that's what I got out of it. Something with the high sparrow or tommen, they were staring at them walking out when they were talking

 
It would be too cliche for Littlefinger to arrive with the army of the Vale right as everything was looking lost for Jon/Sansa, right?  

 
Scoresman said:
The ones I just found are much more detailed.  I'm not going to post any if its going to kill the thread though.  
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More specific than Rickon being killed with an arrow as he is released to Jon prior to the Battle of the Bastards, or that Jon wins the battle, but keeps Ramsey as his prisoner, or that Tommen dies when he jumps out a window. or that Davos confronts Melisandre about burning Shireen, or that Bran makes it to the wall and has another vision of the Tower of Joy - showing Lynna whisper something to Ned, then showing a baby, then showing Jon Snow?

About the only thing not leaked earlier is who dies in episode 10 - hints a lots of deaths, but no specifics - other than Tommen.
 
Sinn Fein said:
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More specific than Rickon being killed with an arrow as he is released to Jon prior to the Battle of the Bastards, or that Jon wins the battle, but keeps Ramsey as his prisoner, or that Tommen dies when he jumps out a window. or that Davos confronts Melisandre about burning Shireen, or that Bran makes it to the wall and has another vision of the Tower of Joy - showing Lynna whisper something to Ned, then showing a baby, then showing Jon Snow?

About the only thing not leaked earlier is who dies in episode 10 - hints a lots of deaths, but no specifics - other than Tommen.
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A bit more info than that is out.  For example, I know what the big Cersei "rumor" is now and what the aftermath of it all is.  

 
thecatch said:
It would be too cliche for Littlefinger to arrive with the army of the Vale right as everything was looking lost for Jon/Sansa, right?  
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I don't know.  It makes sense that he shows, but in what capacity? I could just as easily see him ride in and save the day as I could see him ride in after the battle, flex his muscle towards (presumable Jon's winning) the weakened Northern Forces and demand Sansa be his wife.  I think it's probably safe to assume that he won't side with Ramsey. 

ETA:  As far as it being too cliche.....I think that it comes across a bit stale in regards to the manner in which we're experiencing the story (a weekly show where we're looking for the next big OMG reveal moment). 

 
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Thunderlips said:
I don't know.  It makes sense that he shows, but in what capacity? I could just as easily see him ride in and save the day as I could see him ride in after the battle, flex his muscle towards (presumable Jon's winning) the weakened Northern Forces and demand Sansa be his wife.  I think it's probably safe to assume that he won't side with Ramsey. 

ETA:  As far as it being too cliche.....I think that it comes across a bit stale in regards to the manner in which we're experiencing the story (a weekly show where we're looking for the next big OMG reveal moment). 
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Maybe Littlefinger sacks/commandeers Winterfell while everyone else is out fighting, wipes out whoever is left after the battle and then takes Sansa as wife (I assume Ramsay needs to keep her alive even if he wins). Later on Arya shows up, ends Littlefinger, and Sansa ends up running Winterfell. I guess Jon dies in this scenario. Maybe Ramsay keeps him alive hoping to make him another Reek and then Littlefinger sends him back to the wall so he's still available to fight the others. That would all be pretty Martinesque.

 
Funkley said:
Reaching out to LittleFinger is my guess.
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I keep thinking it's going to be the Iron Bank of Braavos....similar to what Stannis did a couple of seasons ago. 

 
Thunderlips said:
I don't know.  It makes sense that he shows, but in what capacity? I could just as easily see him ride in and save the day as I could see him ride in after the battle, flex his muscle towards (presumable Jon's winning) the weakened Northern Forces and demand Sansa be his wife.  I think it's probably safe to assume that he won't side with Ramsey. 

ETA:  As far as it being too cliche.....I think that it comes across a bit stale in regards to the manner in which we're experiencing the story (a weekly show where we're looking for the next big OMG reveal moment). 
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The LF/Sansa marriage occurred to me as well. That said, while I know Robyn Arryn is a puppet I'm not sure he'd be cool with that scenario. 

 
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Scoresman said:
A bit more info than that is out.  For example, I know what the big Cersei "rumor" is now and what the aftermath of it all is.  
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The Game of Thrones season 6 finale is not only the longest episode of the show yet, it’s also the most mysterious.

HBO just put out its usual release announcing the next two episodes of the hit show – in this case, the finale two of the season, “Battle of the Bastards” and “The Winds of Winter.” Except there is one major component missing from the release: There are no episode descriptions. Not even the usual ultra-cryptic ones.

The move represents the network’s latest unusual step in Thronesultra-secrecy. Even the on-screen cable programming guides are not expected to have descriptions – only the episode’s title, writer, and director credits. (The “leaked” season finale description that some sites reported wasn’t real.) The final two episodes are both written by showrunners David Benioff and Dan Weiss, and directed by Miguel Sapochnik (who helmed last season’s “Hardhome”).

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The Duff Man said:
Varys to Dorne makes the most sense. 
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My thinking was either Dorne or Iron Islands. Dorne as a natural ally against the Lannister backed throne. Would make an easy landing and muster point. Allow for supply of the Dany army and increase the army size. Iron Islands because they have the fleet that they will need and would not yet know of the turmoil that has sent Yara and fleet their way anyways.

 
Re-watching the series and am into season 2 now.  Some observations

- man, do I miss Joffrey.  

- Arya's storyline had so much potential.  I suppose it still does but they wasted 2 seasons at least.  

- tolerance of the Khaleesi's storyline is in direct proportion to the number of hot, willing-to-get-naked maidens she has at any given time.

- The night's watch marched up all the way into the North and back and Sam was still always fat.  He should've been shedding pounds like crazy.

- man, do I miss Bronn.

 
We asked a doctor if a main character would have been able to survive her stab wounds in 'Game of Thrones' — here's his prognosis


"Game of Thrones" is a fantasy show that features dragons, ice zombies, and murderous smoke babies, to name a few. But the most unrealistic thing that's ever happened on the HBO series might be Arya Stark's quick, very active recovery from a half-dozen or more serious stab wounds over the past two episodes.

INSIDER spoke with a doctor who confirmed that Arya's prognosis probably wouldn't look so good - and she'd almost certainly die of a massive infection.

Dr. Jefferey Raunig is a pediatric physician with the U.S. Navy who has been trained in battlefield casualty response. He's also a massive "Game of Thrones" fan. (Raunig's opinion comes from his own personal experience, and does not reflect that of the U.S. Navy or federal government.)

Raunig explained to INSIDER that the most important question for Arya's survival is whether or not the Waif's knife punctured the peritoneum, a membrane that encloses the abdominal organs, including the bowels, kidneys, stomach, and liver, among others.

"Of the stab wounds that penetrate the peritoneum, about half of those will cause visceral damage," he explained. "This is important because of how we witness Arya's recovery."

"Let's run through chain of events: Arya was stabbed about six to ten times, with one very deep stab wound which I'm about 100 percent positive penetrated the peritoneum. She jumped in filthy water, stumbled through the streets, bled a whole bunch, was given some soup and 'milk of the poppy,' and bandaged up," Raunig wrote in an email.

"Assuming there wasn't a trauma surgeon or skilled emergency physician visiting bedside in between scene changes, that is the extent of medical care she received. In the morning, she woke up and sprinted through the streets with apparently no effect from the injuries."

So, could Arya really make it?

Well, in a world where you can bring people back from the dead, Raunig says anything is possible. There's a chance that the stab wounds all missed vital organs, which would've kept her from immediately bleeding out or dying of peritonitis, an infection of the abdomen from perforated bowel.

The milk of the poppy that Lady Crane gave her would alleviate Arya's pain, but since it's an opiate, Raunig says "she'd be as high-as-a-kite and not jumping through the streets like Jean-Claude Van Damme."

So there's a chance that the stab wounds on their own wouldn't kill Arya, even if her parkour-like escape from the Waif is unlikely. That's not the biggest problem, however.

"What I don't believe is feasible is her ability to avoid any infection, and not be in complete septic shock from immersing in disgusting run-off city canal water with her open wounds," Raunig says. "Without being on a mega-dose of broad-spectrum IV antibiotics, she's as good as dead."

There you have it. In all likelihood, she's probably just another addition to the Hall of Faces.
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At the end of the eighth episode of Game of Thrones' sixth season, Arya Stark (Maisie Williams) finally conquered one of her greatest adversaries yet: the Waif (Faye Marsay), one of the Faceless Men's most loyal killers, and someone with no love in her heart for Arya. Indeed, the Waif went out of her way to make the young wolf suffer, stabbing her multiple times in the gut at the end of "The Broken Man" despite being told to kill Arya painlessly. The Waif's ruthlessness and recklessness ultimately led to her demise at Arya's hands, her bloodied face now hanging inside the House of Black and White.

Marsay spoke with The Hollywood Reporter about the Waif's death, her hatred toward Arya, and the exhausting work that went into bringing such a relentless killer to life.

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Jaqen H'ghar tells the Waif to kill Arya but not let her suffer. The Waif doesn't listen, of course, proceeding to stab Arya multiple times in the gut, drawing it out in a very painful way…

Right! And that's one of the things I wanted to come across with the character. It's less about jealousy and more about: "Attack this woman." She doesn't like her. I don't think the Waif was ever really threatened by Arya, really. There was that episode where Arya starts fighting back really hard, and the Waif gets very pissed off. I don't think it was jealousy, but it was, "You're in my territory, and I don't like you." I tried to keep it quite simple. I just wanted to complete the objective of destroying her. But you're right, she does go against Jaqen a little bit. She makes Arya suffer and bleed out. I guess…I guess that's a little bit of revenge on the Waif's part, right?   ...
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get the #### out here with this "Arya would have died from an infection" bull####. It's a show about dragons and zombies and red witches and guys turning to stone

 
the moops said:
get the #### out here with this "Arya would have died from an infection" bull####. It's a show about dragons and zombies and red witches and guys turning to stone
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...where one of the main characters at the beginning of the show died from an infection.

 
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FreeBaGeL said:
...where one of the main characters at the beginning of the show died from an infection.
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Yet we have seen the Mountain, and the Hound, and Jaime, and countless others survive after being poisoned, stabbed, hand chopped off, etc...

Feel how you want, but I just think the nitpicking of little things like dying from infection in a fantasy tv show that has magic and dragons and time travel and everything else to be a tad tiresome :shrug:

 
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