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Game of Thrones, tv only, books don't exist, no backstory...NERDS already ruining a series that hasn't started (8 Viewers)

Outstanding episode. So much greatness to process.

Everything being set up for what promises to be a sensational finish. Cersei may be pure evil at this point. All her kids are gone so whatever trace of humanity she had is gone. It's all about power which is really all she has ever craved.

LOVED LOVED LOVED Arya avenging the Red Wedding. I've said a bunch of times I've been waiting for that to happen and I'm so glad it finally did. 

Jon Snow is the new King of the North just when R+L=J is confirmed. That should make for all kinds of fun.

Lyanna Mormont is ridiculously awesome. 

 
This was the episode I've been waiting for the last three seasons.  Finaly brought everyone together, put characters where they need to be, and killed off the rest.

now we got 15 episodes to do the whole "song of fire and ice" thing.

 
Cersei has zero shot to stay in power - Dany comes with 2 armies, 1 navy, 3 dragons, and will soon team with two more kingdoms - and Cersei has literally blown away the cream of the kingdom's leadership who were all gathered in the sept, and her leading soldier her brother now hates her. It's just a matter of time before that's done. And the North is now consolidated. 

 
The Lannisters have no one and they are internally in chaos. 
Cersei has no idea how badly she is going to get her ### kicked by Dany. I don't see how that's even a fight. Assuming Dany wins that battle and takes King's Landing I think the assumption might be that she and Jon join forces to fight the White Walkers in the ultimate final battle on the show. That would seem to be where everything is heading. There's certainly no reason for Dany and Jon to be at odds with one another and certainly not if Bran shows up and tells Jon about his true parentage.   

 
The show really could be setting up for women in power of all the major areas on the show. There's a woman leader in Dorne. Dany will rule the Iron Throne, Yara will be a Queen and once Jon finds out his true bloodline he'll likely renounce his King in the North title and that would leave Sansa as the Queen since she's the oldest living Stark child. 

 
Cersei has zero shot to stay in power - Dany comes with 2 armies, 1 navy, 3 dragons, and will soon team with two more kingdoms - and Cersei has literally blown away the cream of the kingdom's leadership who were all gathered in the sept, and her leading soldier her brother now hates her. It's just a matter of time before that's done. And the North is now consolidated. 
Somehow I think she'll manage.  (At least one more season, anyway.)

 
So many awesome scenes - every scene was so significant.

Pycelle killed by the little birds

Lancel struggling to stop the explosion

Loras geting Tattooed - watching everyone file in - watching Margaery figure out the trouble, only to be helpless - seeing the flames from hell

Tommen just taking a long walk off a short pier

Cersei tomenting the septon, The Mountain tormenting the septon

Cersei lose all of her humanity when shown her son - "burn him"

Loved Samwell walking into the library - loved that entire scene

Dany kissing her lover goodbye, making Tyrion the Hand

Davos confronting Melisandre - Jon and Davos promising to kill her (I expect we will see her again)

Sansa and Littlefinger in the weirwood

Bran and Benjen and Meera, and then the Jon Snow's parents disclosed.

Arya - complete psycho now - killed and cooked the kids, then sliced Walder from ear to ear.

King Of The North!!!  Lady Mormont steals the scene - as she is accustomed to doing these days.

Dragons, and ships, and ships, and ships are coming

Almost forgot Lady Olena and her barbed wit, plus we have Varys' time travel - Dorne to Mereen in about two scenes...

Cersei taking the Iron Throne - Jamie looking on - with that look that says - I am The Kingslayer - I know what to do next.

 
Cersei has zero shot to stay in power - Dany comes with 2 armies, 1 navy, 3 dragons, and will soon team with two more kingdoms - and Cersei has literally blown away the cream of the kingdom's leadership who were all gathered in the sept, and her leading soldier her brother now hates her. It's just a matter of time before that's done. And the North is now consolidated. 
Once Tyrion arrives on Dany's side Jamie's gonna be in a real tough spot, stuck between a sister he loves and a brother he loves. Of all the ways for Cersei to die I think being killed by Tyrion is the most fitting but Jamie killing her to prevent her from doing something awful (like killing Tyrion) is another possibility.   

 
Wow...Awesome ending.

How I see the next 2 seasons:

1. Dany lands in Dorne and teams with Martells and Tyrells.  Marches on Kings Landing

2. Either Tyrion or Jaime kill Cercei

3. Bran makes it to Winterfell tells the info about Jon. 

4. Dany heads North, Jon and Dany marry to align themselves against Whitewalkers

5. Sam finds info in the Citadels library about defeating Whitewalkers

6. Battle against Whitewalkers

7. Arya takes out more enemies on her list, may be the Valonquar and not Tyrion/Jamie

8. Varys kills Little finger or has him killed

 
If Jaime kills Cercei, I'm guessing Jaime will also make sure he dies too, all his kids are dead, can't see him wanting to live any longer.

 
Cersei has no idea how badly she is going to get her ### kicked by Dany. I don't see how that's even a fight. Assuming Dany wins that battle and takes King's Landing I think the assumption might be that she and Jon join forces to fight the White Walkers in the ultimate final battle on the show. That would seem to be where everything is heading. There's certainly no reason for Dany and Jon to be at odds with one another and certainly not if Bran shows up and tells Jon about his true parentage.   


There is one big reason Dany and Jon might be at odds. It's possible Jon would have a better claim to the throne as Rhaegar's son. I can't imagine after everything she has been through Dany will be happy letting her nephew take the throne.  I realize we assume Jon is Rhaegar's ******* but we don't really know for sure if he and Lyanna figured out a way to get married.

 
There is one big reason Dany and Jon might be at odds. It's possible Jon would have a better claim to the throne as Rhaegar's son. I can't imagine after everything she has been through Dany will be happy letting her nephew take the throne.  I realize we assume Jon is Rhaegar's ******* but we don't really know for sure if he and Lyanna figured out a way to get married.
Very unlikely that Jon wants the Iron Throne, and still to be determined how Westeros would ever learn of Jon's parents - maybe Howlend Reed...

 
A lot of assumptions about things going smoothly and pretty well for the "heroes". I doubt that. Little finger is already plotting aghast Sansa and Snow. That's not likely  to have a positive outcome.

 
The show really could be setting up for women in power of all the major areas on the show. There's a woman leader in Dorne. Dany will rule the Iron Throne, Yara will be a Queen and once Jon finds out his true bloodline he'll likely renounce his King in the North title and that would leave Sansa as the Queen since she's the oldest living Stark child. 
We heading to an all women rulers of the seven kingdoms?

dany 

sansa up north

yara iron islands

sand snakes dorne

robin in the eyrie

:shrug:



 
I am a little worried for Arya - show runners hinted that she is in for a dark spell in the post-show comments

I have a feeling she may lead a troubled life for the rest of her days.

 
A lot of assumptions about things going smoothly and pretty well for the "heroes". I doubt that. Little finger is already plotting aghast Sansa and Snow. That's not likely  to have a positive outcome.
Agree with you. 

We had a very satisfying season from a fan perspective that stuck to more common tropes of the good guys winning.  This is not going to last - in fact, it'll likely end badly.

The only downside to the season and this episode, other than Cersei - whose power situation is tenuous, we don't have any characters left to hate.

 
No reason for Jon to relinquish King of the North based on his parents - he still has as much Stark blood in him, as everyone presumes.

 
Agree with you. 

We had a very satisfying season from a fan perspective that stuck to more common tropes of the good guys winning.  This is not going to last - in fact, it'll likely end badly.

The only downside to the season and this episode, other than Cersei - whose power situation is tenuous, we don't have any characters left to hate.
We still have Cersei, and probably Littlefinger.

But, this has always been the battle between the living and the dead.  All the machinations with the Iron Throne were simply to set up the real battle, against the real villains - the Night King and his army of the dead. 

 
No reason for Jon to relinquish King of the North based on his parents - he still has as much Stark blood in him, as everyone presumes.
He has Stark blood but not Ned's. Maybe that won't matter to everyone in the North if people find out who his true parents are. Maybe it will. But ultimately I don't think Jon wants to rule. I think he's doing it now because he thinks it's what he needs to do and it's what is expected of him now. But if he had a choice he'd probably let Sansa run things and he'd go somewhere warm like he originally wanted before she showed up at Castle Black.  

 
The only downside to the season and this episode, other than Cersei - whose power situation is tenuous, we don't have any characters left to hate.
This is where they have us though.. audience and characters will be torn between their own loyalties pitted against each other (until the White Walkers finally make a move)..

 
He has Stark blood but not Ned's. Maybe that won't matter to everyone in the North if people find out who his true parents are. Maybe it will. But ultimately I don't think Jon wants to rule. I think he's doing it now because he thinks it's what he needs to do and it's what is expected of him now. But if he had a choice he'd probably let Sansa run things and he'd go somewhere warm like he originally wanted before she showed up at Castle Black.  
I don't think they dropped the Daenerys getting married stuff just for ####s and giggles.  Would not surprise me if Jon and Daenerys got hitched to form an alliance of sorts - presumably to battle the White Walkers.

 
This was the episode I've been waiting for the last three seasons.  Finaly brought everyone together, put characters where they need to be, and killed off the rest.

now we got 15 episodes to do the whole "song of fire and ice" thing.
I heard 13 episodes left.

 
I don't think they dropped the Daenerys getting married stuff just for ####s and giggles.  Would not surprise me if Jon and Daenerys got hitched to form an alliance of sorts - presumably to battle the White Walkers.
Not if Little Finger sees her first. :)

One thing that struck me was during Lyanna Mormont's big speech that swayed all the North leaders to rally around Jon a big part of it was saying how Jon was a Snow but he had Ned Stark's blood flowing in his veins. Should the North find out that isn't the case how much of a problem will that cause? And the No. 1 person who could find that out would seem to be Little Finger. It wouldn't surprise me if he already suspected Jon's true parentage and now that Sansa's shot him down he's got a good reason to expose Jon if that would be something to piss off those in the North.  

 
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Not if Little Finger sees her first. :)

One thing that struck me was during Lyanna Mormont's big speech that swayed all the North leaders to rally around Jon a big part of it was saying how Jon was a Snow but he had Ned Stark's blood flowing in his veins. Should the North find out that isn't the case how much of a problem will that cause?   
0.0 IMO

 

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