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Two hours ago they were predictions, now they're spoilers. Also conveniently dropped out of explaining how Varys was telegraphed.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MehJaeTVrxI
but I guess you'd have to know what the white bird meant (and understand what the title of the episode meant too).
Maybe he meant to post his spoilers (which were hidden under a spoiler tag) in the book thread.
Let the outrage continue!
OK, I guess if you saw the white raven and knew exactly what it meant you could guess that Sam sent it. That said, it doesn't really matter, that's why I stayed out of the thread. Obvious that he already knew about the spoilers/episode since he posted the one about Tommen jumping out of the window. I'm just glad I avoided the thread because of posts like that which had more spoilers than guesses. Varys/Olenna still was completely unpredictable to be in the finale even with the knowledge of the books (which again makes it a spoiler, not a guess). In this thread, you can look smarter having read the books and stating your guesses.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MehJaeTVrxI
but I guess you'd have to know what the white bird meant (and understand what the title of the episode meant too).
Maybe he meant to post his spoilers (which were hidden under a spoiler tag) in the book thread.
Let the outrage continue!
No outrage, more of a "nice try". Nerds....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MehJaeTVrxI
but I guess you'd have to know what the white bird meant (and understand what the title of the episode meant too).
Maybe he meant to post his spoilers (which were hidden under a spoiler tag) in the book thread.
Let the outrage continue!
you win. SF didn't use spoiler tags and Varys to Dorne wasn't telegraphed.
It was obvious that that's where Varys was headed. They want to overthrow the Lannisters. The people running Dorne hate the Lannisters the most and are about the only people who haven't had there army chewed up in the war. Process of elimination leads him to Dorne.
Jamie wanted to stay for the trial. Cersei told him to go to Riverrun. I agree with those who say she did to ensure he wouldn't be there to mess up her plan.
Well, you saw it from about 1/2 mile away and it was a big boom there but it was over with in about 5 seconds. I thought they'd show it racing through different areas more, have it blow things up more, have more shocked faces both getting nailed from it and from people seeing it.
Cersei will find out soon enough about the new King in the North. That will likely be the first big news she'll hear about. What she won't know is the major league ### whoopin coming at her from the sea.
what's particularly funny about all the outrage, there is more wrong than right in this. AND, he didn't predict Lady Olena in Dorne.
Under the subtitle of Dorne, he says that maybe Varys secures Olenna as an ally. Seems that's exactly what he did
Just like when she was captured and then freed the many faced man. He used the same tricks. She is an assassin now.
Why are you fighting this? Maybe he saw the episode and posted spoilers as predictions. So what? Don't read the spoilers.
I doubt the show is going to give a satisfactory answer regarding how Arya is using faces. We are probably going to have to just accept it as an "ability" rather than a prop.
There's a difference between saying "this is what happens: spoilers" and (this is a direct quote) "My guesses - no legitimate spoliers."
Just move the Olena comment to other 'other stuff' and then people can breathe a sigh of relief
Didn't know what else to call it. The writers just seemed to be playing up the intimacy between them lately. With Jon not really Ned's son perhaps it's being done because it will result in something later on.
I suspect she will ultimately be faced with a choice: seek vengeance and reclaim the throne or divert up north and save the world.1
Somebody else pointed this out posts ago but it's worth repeating because I was thinking Varys would partner with Dorne as well. Question: a few episodes ago when Varyl says he has to go about finding some new ally (or something like that) did you wonder where he went? If you did, you may have used the process of elimination (as I did). Did he go north of the wall? No. Would he go to Winterfell? No. How about to meet with the Hound? No -- rinse repeat and it's fairly obvious if you had wondered where Varys was going. If you didn't wonder? No problem but some of us did.
I didn't guess it but Varys to Dorne made sense for at least a couple of reasons. 1) They hate Cersei and the Lannisters and Tyrion obviously knows that so they could potentially be allies for Dany and 2) They had to re-appear at some point in the story in some kind of meaningful way.Somebody else pointed this out posts ago but it's worth repeating because I was thinking Varys would partner with Dorne as well. Question: a few episodes ago when Varyl says he has to go about finding some new ally (or something like that) did you wonder where he went? If you did, you may have used the process of elimination (as I did). Did he go north of the wall? No. Would he go to Winterfell? No. How about to meet with the Hound? No -- rinse repeat and it's fairly obvious if you had wondered where Varys was going. If you didn't wonder? No problem but some of us did.
John McClain, racing against the clock to put out the wildfyre, machine-gunning down scores of Qyburnz Kidz, would have been ideal.
Pretty sure this is the explanation or that or she grabbed a bunch of faces on the way out. She put the Terminator's face up and she was in there before Jaqen, so she could have grabbed some for the ride. I don't see any need to explain it. She was there forever, she either learned everything and can do it herself or she grabbed a stash.
I was playing Candy Crush during this episode but could there be any way that the "pretty girl" was actually just some "pretty girl" and Arya offed her (and stole her face) inbetween the Bronn/Jaime scene and when she offed Frey?
Id like to think it was always her. Makes you think her and Jamie may have an en counter later
I think it's a skill that she learned, but won't have a full catalog of faces unless she has a place to store them.
LOL, you paid enough attention. I think the assumption was that she was the pretty girl all along. Jamie knows who Arya is, so better to be disguised at the start. With all the face prep time, I can't imagine she could have pulled an Ocean's Eleven switch between the meal and the after party. Much easier to believe she was the pretty girl all along.
Cersei is going to have a hell of a death scene. So many people want her dead and are gunning for her for everything she and/or Tywin/Joffrey/The Mountain has done.
In a weird, very dark way all that was very just. Yeah the High Sparrow was into power. And yes Septa was into control and power and torture. Cersei's point was really a truth telling.
There is no doubt he was relying on spoiler info, and it isn't far-fetched to assume he watched the actual episode before his post (it was available). SF has been posting spoilers for a while now. In fairness, usually labeled as such. Not sure why he disguised them as "guesses" this time.
SHAME!Most of what I posted has been foreshadowed - what has not been foreshadowed, I got wrong.
Kings Landing - Yes, I knew that Tommen would take a nose dive out the window, but we all knew Tommen would die early to fulfill Cersei's prophecy so, predicting his death was not going out on a limb. The wild fire has been foreshadowed all season, and really all series. Cersei has frequently mentioned burning cities to ground, Jamie mentioned it earlier this season, Bran's vision, Cersei losing the ace up her sleeve with the Mountain - all pointed to her blowing stuff up. I actually expected the damage to be more wide spread - to fulfill Daenerys vision when she walks into the throne room and it looks torched. I will predict now - that when she sacks Kings Landing it will be devastating - so that when she gets the throne, the city will be in ruins.
Dorne - Dorne was the obvious choice of Westeros ally for Daenerys - none of the major houses made sense. Dorne hates the Lannisters, and we already knew they were in the show. Vale - occupied up north, and Varys hates and distrusts Littlefinger. Varys would know the Tullys were evicted. Northern Houses were in disarray. Boltons and Freys were allied with Lannisters. Lady Olena - she has been a TV favorite character, and they made the point to get her out of Kings Landing - she seemed to be positioned to have a role going forward, and Tyrells have an established army - the fewer armies Daenerys has to face, the better - so an alliance of sorts made sense.
Freys - I got this mostly wrong. It seemed fairly obvious that Arya would kill Frey - her Bravos story was done, she really has no other role/motivation other than revenge in the show. I did assume the damage would be more widespread based on the previews showing the Freys and Lannisters together. I thought Arya would poison Walder, and then chaos would ensue as the two sides blamed each other.
White Ravens - this was a book thing - the show is beyond the books, but the title of the show was the Winds of Winter - white ravens are used to signify the start of the long winter. Seemed likely that Winter is no longer coming.
Sam/Gilly - seemed like there would be some payoff for his journey south other than simply stealing his family sword. Reaching the Citadel was likely.
Winterfell - "Queen of the North" does not have the same ring as "King of the North" We saw Littlefinger and Sansa talking - and we knew Littlefinger has always been obsessed with her. I did think maybe he wanted to stay in power behind the scenes - hence the marriage to Robyn as a twist, but the show made it quite clear that his only goal is the Iron Throne. We saw Davos confront Melisandre - I guessed wrong on how that woudl play out - I thought Jon would side with Melisandre for the reasons she cited, and that Davos would be the one to leave.
I whiffed on Brienne and Pod meeting up with Brotherhood and Hound, and seeing Euron leave the Iron Islands. I do think before Daenerys heads to Kings Landing, she will have to deal with Euron's fleet - again, not really going on a limb here.
