Game of Thrones, tv only, books don't exist, no backstory...NERDS already ruining a series that hasn't started (5 Viewers)

[Thunderlips]

WTF is a dunk and an egg?

It's Dunkin Egg....a hardboiled egg inside a Dunkin Donut.  YWIA. HTH. 

 

[nirad3]

It's Dunkin Egg....a hardboiled egg inside a Dunkin Donut.  YWIA. HTH. 

mmm donuts

 

[packersfan]

Is it July 16 yet? 

It really needs to be July 16. 

 

[Scoresman]

Just read the episode by episode spoilers.

Gonna be a great season!

 

[Thunderlips]

He didn't rule out a series focussed on Hot Pie

His gravy takes Westeros by storm.

 

[need2know]

Is it July 16 yet? 

It really needs to be July 16. 

Feels like it's been years since it was on

 

[need2know]

Tales of Dunk and Egg is a series of fantasy novellas by George R. R. Martin, set in the world of his A Song of Ice and Fire novels. They follow the adventures of "Dunk" and "Egg", some 90 years before the events of the novels.

Three novellas have been published–The Hedge Knight (1998), The Sworn Sword (2003), and The Mystery Knight (2010)–and Martin has stated his intention to continue the series . A collection of the existing three novellas, with illustrations by Gary Gianni, was published as A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms on October 6, 2015.

Instead of this why doesn't he finish the next ####### book?  

 

[Sebowski]

Instead of this why doesn't he finish the next ####### book?  

BECAUSE BOOKS DON'T EXIST GUY!!!

 

[TheFanatic]

Instead of this why doesn't he finish the next ####### book?  

And at this point, I might have to read the last three books before I can read the next one so I can remember all that has happened

 

[Thunderlips]

Instead of this why doesn't he finish the next ####### book?  

Two were done back in the day when he was writing fast(1998)(2003). 

 

[need2know]

And at this point, I might have to read the last three books before I can read the next one so I can remember all that has happened

I'm not reading them again.  Don't get me wrong they were great but it took me a long time to get through them.  And I am a fairly fast reader

 

[bigmarc27]

I'm not reading them again.  Don't get me wrong they were great but it took me a long time to get through them.  And I am a fairly fast reader

I did the first 3 last summer for the first time...  I enjoy the books for what they are and appreciate the extra detail, but I wasn't quite as blown away by them being a show watcher first. Definitely not to the point I thought I would be. The red wedding for instance had a much larger impact on me in the show than reading through it. 

Ill probably read the last two (and any further books) in the future, but I'm content to let the story unfold on my tv. 

 

[need2know]

I did the first 3 last summer for the first time...  I enjoy the books for what they are and appreciate the extra detail, but I wasn't quite as blown away by them being a show watcher first. Definitely not to the point I thought I would be. The red wedding for instance had a much larger impact on me in the show than reading through it. 

Ill probably read the last two (and any further books) in the future, but I'm content to let the story unfold on my tv. 

I agree

 

[otb_lifer]

just started with this, thanks to Exodus ... great HD streams, so i'm digging in

up to episode 3, season 1 ... episode 2 - HE STABBED THE WOLF AND THE KID WOKE UP!!  was kinda anticipating that, loved that it came to fruition - hooked me.

thoughts so far ...

love the younger Stark sister - she's dynamite

Dinklage is superb.

Emilia Clarke is a goddess

the Queen's brother is a major dbag who looks too much like Dennis Leary

the Prince who got his arm chewed is a right little pr1ck

Winter Is Coming

on a scale of 1-10, how much am i gonna dig this all the way through season 7 if i'm loving it this much thus far?  (no spoilers, please)

 

[need2know]

just started with this, thanks to Exodus ... great HD streams, so i'm digging in

up to episode 3, season 1 ... episode 2 - HE STABBED THE WOLF AND THE KID WOKE UP!!  was kinda anticipating that, loved that it came to fruition - hooked me.

thoughts so far ...

love the younger Stark sister - she's dynamite

Dinklage is superb.

Emilia Clarke is a goddess

the Queen's brother is a major dbag who looks too much like Dennis Leary

the Prince who got his arm chewed is a right little pr1ck

Winter Is Coming

on a scale of 1-10, how much am i gonna dig this all the way through season 7 if i'm loving it this much thus far?  (no spoilers, please)

you aint seen nothing yet

 

[El Floppo]

just started with this, thanks to Exodus ... great HD streams, so i'm digging in

up to episode 3, season 1 ... episode 2 - HE STABBED THE WOLF AND THE KID WOKE UP!!  was kinda anticipating that, loved that it came to fruition - hooked me.

thoughts so far ...

love the younger Stark sister - she's dynamite

Dinklage is superb.

Emilia Clarke is a goddess

the Queen's brother is a major dbag who looks too much like Dennis Leary

the Prince who got his arm chewed is a right little pr1ck

Winter Is Coming

on a scale of 1-10, how much am i gonna dig this all the way through season 7 if i'm loving it this much thus far?  (no spoilers, please)

This one goes to 11

 

[Sabertooth]

And at this point, I might have to read the last three books before I can read the next one so I can remember all that has happened

Poor sweetling.  There is no "next" book.  Now eat your lamprey pie.  

 

[Swing 51]

just started with this, thanks to Exodus ... great HD streams, so i'm digging in

up to episode 3, season 1 ... episode 2 - HE STABBED THE WOLF AND THE KID WOKE UP!!  was kinda anticipating that, loved that it came to fruition - hooked me.

thoughts so far ...

love the younger Stark sister - she's dynamite

Dinklage is superb.

Emilia Clarke is a goddess

the Queen's brother is a major dbag who looks too much like Dennis Leary

the Prince who got his arm chewed is a right little pr1ck

Winter Is Coming

on a scale of 1-10, how much am i gonna dig this all the way through season 7 if i'm loving it this much thus far?  (no spoilers, please)

You know nothing

 

[otb_lifer]

This one goes to 11

niiiice - really looking forward to seeing this all play out 

haven't binge-watched anything in a looong time .

 

[El Floppo]

niiiice - really looking forward to seeing this all play out 

haven't binge-watched anything in a looong time .

jealous. you are in for amazing, long, crazy ride.

 

[bigmarc27]

niiiice - really looking forward to seeing this all play out 

haven't binge-watched anything in a looong time .

I would stay out of this thread for a bit...  there are some things that can be said pretty innocuously at this point that could spoil major plot points for you.  

Also you're lucky getting to see this fresh.  I liked the show a good bit through season 2, but season 3 is where it jumped up into the stratosphere for me and I needed to consume everything. 

 

[otb_lifer]

I would stay out of this thread for a bit...  there are some things that can be said pretty innocuously at this point that could spoil major plot points for you.  

Also you're lucky getting to see this fresh.  I liked the show a good bit through season 2, but season 3 is where it jumped up into the stratosphere for me and I needed to consume everything. 

yeah, i haven't read any post prior to the one i put up earlier ... hitting this like it's 2011. 

just wanted to gauge the waters, i know this board has very discerning (and vocal) taste(s).

my three all timers are Curb, Seinfeld, Sopranos - and there were lullls and valleys in all three (amazing shows, not here to knock) - hoping this one just zooms along with breakneck velocity. 

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

I don't know.  Like Martin said, we already know how and why it started, how most if the battles went down and how it ended.  I'm not sure what the point would be.  

That is assuming all the conspiracies and backstory get fleshed (flushed?) out in THE BOOKS. 

 

[bigmarc27]

yeah, i haven't read any post prior to the one i put up earlier ... hitting this like it's 2011. 

just wanted to gauge the waters, i know this board has very discerning (and vocal) taste(s).

my three all timers are Curb, Seinfeld, Sopranos - and there were lullls and valleys in all three (amazing shows, not here to knock) - hoping this one just zooms along with breakneck velocity. 

My favorite of these type shows would the Wire, Sopranos, Mad Men, etc...  Game of Thrones is right there - can't say where it'll land in the rankings until it's finished, but it's going toe to toe with those heavyweights. 

 

[KarmaPolice]

I did the first 3 last summer for the first time...  I enjoy the books for what they are and appreciate the extra detail, but I wasn't quite as blown away by them being a show watcher first. Definitely not to the point I thought I would be. The red wedding for instance had a much larger impact on me in the show than reading through it. 

Ill probably read the last two (and any further books) in the future, but I'm content to let the story unfold on my tv. 

Of course if you saw it first. 

That was one of the few times in my life I have been that mad at a book (of course in a good way).  I had only seen Season 1, and then went through the books.  I got to that point and wanted to throw the book.  One of the more memorable experiences I have ever had reading a book.  Book 3 is one of the best books I have ever read. 

 

[KarmaPolice]

My favorite of these type shows would the Wire, Sopranos, Mad Men, etc...  Game of Thrones is right there - can't say where it'll land in the rankings until it's finished, but it's going toe to toe with those heavyweights. 

Loved Mad Men, but that is not one that is made for binge watching, IMO.  I think  1-2 episodes a week was plenty as I was catching up. 

 

[El Floppo]

yeah, i haven't read any post prior to the one i put up earlier ... hitting this like it's 2011. 

just wanted to gauge the waters, i know this board has very discerning (and vocal) taste(s).

my three all timers are Curb, Seinfeld, Sopranos - and there were lullls and valleys in all three (amazing shows, not here to knock) - hoping this one just zooms along with breakneck velocity. 

seriously. you need to stay out of this thread...

your post was a bat-signal for people to start talking about some of the crazier stuff that's happened in the show. do your best to just avoid this place until you catch up. or... start at the beginning of the thread and don't read past where you are. you can always post, but stay gold and pure pony-boy. 

 

[TheFanatic]

seriously. you need to stay out of this thread...

your post was a bat-signal for people to start talking about some of the crazier stuff that's happened in the show. do your best to just avoid this place until you catch up. or... start at the beginning of the thread and don't read past where you are. you can always post, but stay gold and pure pony-boy. 

What he said. RUN! RUN!

 

[otb_lifer]

seriously. you need to stay out of this thread...

your post was a bat-signal for people to start talking about some of the crazier stuff that's happened in the show. do your best to just avoid this place until you catch up. or... start at the beginning of the thread and don't read past where you are. you can always post, but stay gold and pure pony-boy. 

lifer - OUT

oh, and if i ever get fuster clucked on the goings on, i'll just ring ya for a cocktail (or 10), Floppo 

 

[Super King]

Of course if you saw it first. 

That was one of the few times in my life I have been that mad at a book (of course in a good way).  I had only seen Season 1, and then went through the books.  I got to that point and wanted to throw the book.  One of the more memorable experiences I have ever had reading a book.  Book 3 is one of the best books I have ever read. 

Did the same exact thing. Watched the 1st season, then plowed through the books. I'd never audibly yelled at a book up until reading the Red Wedding. 

 

[Buckychudd]

Just read the episode by episode spoilers.

Gonna be a great season!

Link?

 

[KarmaPolice]

WTF would you want to read the episode by episode spoilers?

 

[TheFanatic]

WTF would you want to read the episode by episode spoilers?

Exactly. I saw that and for a brief second I thought I want to know what's going to happen then realized no F'n way

 

[thecatch]

Of course if you saw it first. 

That was one of the few times in my life I have been that mad at a book (of course in a good way).  I had only seen Season 1, and then went through the books.  I got to that point and wanted to throw the book.  One of the more memorable experiences I have ever had reading a book.  Book 3 is one of the best books I have ever read. 

This. Ned's execution hit me like that as well, probably even more forcefully, since I had only watched the first couple of episodes prior to reading Book 1. 

 

[the moops]

WTF would you want to read the episode by episode spoilers?

 

[beer 30]

This. Ned's execution hit me like that as well, probably even more forcefully, since I had only watched the first couple of episodes prior to reading Book 1. 

Ned's execution set the tone for the series. Much like the rest of you, the Red Wedding came at me from out of nowhere. The series has settled in some so I'm not looking for completely out-of-the-blue stuff but those two events very seminal moments in the series.

 

[Sabertooth]

Loved Mad Men, but that is not one that is made for binge watching, IMO.  I think  1-2 episodes a week was plenty as I was catching up. 

I think I'd really enjoy this one. 

 

[El Floppo]

Of course if you saw it first. 

That was one of the few times in my life I have been that mad at a book (of course in a good way).  I had only seen Season 1, and then went through the books.  I got to that point and wanted to throw the book.  One of the more memorable experiences I have ever had reading a book.  Book 3 is one of the best books I have ever read. 

This. Ned's execution hit me like that as well, probably even more forcefully, since I had only watched the first couple of episodes prior to reading Book 1. 

lol... I hope lifer had the sense to stay out.

 

[The Duff Man]

I had to re-read the Red Wedding pages about three times. 

I kept thinking, I must have skipped a paragraph that indicated this was a dream or something. 

 

[TheFanatic]

Ned's execution set the tone for the series. Much like the rest of you, the Red Wedding came at me from out of nowhere. The series has settled in some so I'm not looking for completely out-of-the-blue stuff but those two events very seminal moments in the series.

For me it was Bran getting tossed out the window. We've got a dude banging his sister and then he chucks a boy out the window to cover it up. I actually sat up and dropped some expletives and woke my wife up. At that point I knew anything was game. Ned and the Red Wedding still caught me off guard, but still. That's where it started for me. 

 

[KarmaPolice]

It all started for me in the first scene when they offed the random Nightwatch henchmen.  I knew this show was down for anything at that point.

 

[sn0mm1s]

For me it was Bran getting tossed out the window. We've got a dude banging his sister and then he chucks a boy out the window to cover it up. I actually sat up and dropped some expletives and woke my wife up. At that point I knew anything was game. Ned and the Red Wedding still caught me off guard, but still. That's where it started for me. 

Back when there was no show, I would recommend this series to anyone that hadn't read it. I would give them this advice: when you get to the line, "The things I do for love," if you aren't hooked or are lukewarm on the books put them down and find something else. 

 

[TheFanatic]

Back when there was no show, I would recommend this series to anyone that hadn't read it. I would give them this advice: when you get to the line, "The things I do for love," if you aren't hooked or are lukewarm on the books put them down and find something else. 

I did something similar. I would say, "If in the first 10 chapters, you don't sit up and say, 'Holy ####### ####,' then move on to an autobiography because fiction isn't for you." I think that was around chapter 7. I didn't want to say the specific chapter so they would know when it would happen. I like your method better. Telling the line right after the shove. 

 

[El Floppo]

lol... I hope lifer had the sense to stay out.

 

[stbugs]

I did the first 3 last summer for the first time...  I enjoy the books for what they are and appreciate the extra detail, but I wasn't quite as blown away by them being a show watcher first. Definitely not to the point I thought I would be. The red wedding for instance had a much larger impact on me in the show than reading through it. 

Ill probably read the last two (and any further books) in the future, but I'm content to let the story unfold on my tv. 

Interesting. I've never read the books and thought it might be fun to go back and read them, but that's not a ringing endorsement. With 3 boys, a job, a dog and a working wife, not sure I would bother with the time commitment. I love the show. I'd probably enjoy more re-watching the show before the next season starts. I didn't have HBO until after I binged watched the first 3 seasons before the 4th season. I can tell you that this show is even better when you have 30 hours waiting for you on DVR.

 

[El Floppo]

Interesting. I've never read the books and thought it might be fun to go back and read them, but that's not a ringing endorsement. With 3 boys, a job, a dog and a working wife, not sure I would bother with the time commitment. I love the show. I'd probably enjoy more re-watching the show before the next season starts. I didn't have HBO until after I binged watched the first 3 seasons before the 4th season. I can tell you that this show is even better when you have 30 hours waiting for you on DVR.

I watched the 1st season and then read the 1st book.... was pretty much verbatim as the show, so I opted to just watch the show instead going forward. I think people said the subsequent seasons varied from the source material a little more than the 1st 

 

[stbugs]

I watched the 1st season and then read the 1st book.... was pretty much verbatim as the show, so I opted to just watch the show instead going forward. I think people said the subsequent seasons varied from the source material a little more than the 1st 

Yeah, I was thinking that the books might be so much more expansive. His comment that having watched all of the show, which is now past the books, kind of took the wind out of the books makes sense. Not worth the time.

 

[Gr00vus]

For me it was Bran getting tossed out the window. We've got a dude banging his sister and then he chucks a boy out the window to cover it up. I actually sat up and dropped some expletives and woke my wife up. At that point I knew anything was game. Ned and the Red Wedding still caught me off guard, but still. That's where it started for me. 

Me too. I almost quit immediately after the opening scene with the nights watchmen running into the white walkers - I was thinking, great another zombie show, no thanks. I stuck with it to the end of the episode, and Jamie pushing Bran out the window so nonchalantly hooked me. Such great writing through the 1st 3 books.

 

[KarmaPolice]

I watched the 1st season and then read the 1st book.... was pretty much verbatim as the show, so I opted to just watch the show instead going forward. I think people said the subsequent seasons varied from the source material a little more than the 1st 

For sure book 1 and season 1 are VERY similar.  There are some great scenes that were show only though. 

For me personally, I highly doubt I would have gotten through the first book if I had tried that first for a couple reasons:  1. I don't ever read fantasy, so it was really nice to have heard the names/places and have a little background with that, and 2.  It was nice to have older people in my head and not have to think too much about the 12 and 13 year old characters running around. 

I usually can't read something after I have watched it, but those things really helped here.  Sure there are things a bit different in the books, but not sure how many people could get through them all after seeing all of the show now  just to see that Sansa and Brienne are in different situations. 

 

[bigmarc27]

Interesting. I've never read the books and thought it might be fun to go back and read them, but that's not a ringing endorsement. With 3 boys, a job, a dog and a working wife, not sure I would bother with the time commitment. I love the show. I'd probably enjoy more re-watching the show before the next season starts. I didn't have HBO until after I binged watched the first 3 seasons before the 4th season. I can tell you that this show is even better when you have 30 hours waiting for you on DVR.

I don't want to deter - they're very good. Some things in particular like Arya making her way to the Twins had lots of details that never made it to the show. 

It is a pretty significant time investment, though. 6k pages or so among the currently released books.