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This is a fairly big deal, but I guess details are next week. Also looking at the map the distance from dragonstone to CR by sea is about 3x as long as the mereen to dragonstone voyage. But they will make it all in half an episode that took 3 seasons previously. It's not like they have tried to hide the geography in the past. They painted the GD map on the floor in E1.
Right, those two armies were heading to KL to start the seige and wait for Dany and friends.
Time is passing faster in Season 7 than in previous seasons, yes. There are probably only 11 episodes left for the whole damn show. They need to move some things along...
Dany was gone when Varys first showed up there. After she returned there wasn't time immediately because she was conquering the masters.
It's the first conversation you have with the guy, whenever you met him. Which wasn't when they landed on Dragonstone.
When she returned to Mereen it was under attack. Dany had more pressing things to be concerned about than talking to Varys.
In the Hot Pie scenes, her mannerisms were almost identical to the Hound's when they were traveling together. And now, the Hound is acting like Arya used to be (kind and trying to spare people). Interesting transference of character traits.
The most quotable is the "one or two" line, which is now getting the meme treatment. It was a good line, she's sort of turning into half her dad half hound character.
I just remembered - Varys wasn't in Mereen when Dany returned. He was off trying to secure the Dorne/Tyrell alliance.
O.k. then that's when that should have happened. That's the first discussion you have with the guy.
Which is what I said. But the writers didn't want to focus on the boat ride over which in my opinion is perfectly fine.
Agreed. And there isn't going to be anything close to a happy ending IMHO. Everything is going to be bittersweet I think. At best.I think the meat of the story is getting more interesting than it's ever been.
i agree about loving the non-Hollywood outcomes, but didn't Arya say "you are not Nymeria" in the episode. I took it to mean that there are more dire wolves out there, and that Nymeria is somewhere else, perhaps a leader of a pack. and i think they always talked about how Dire Wolves are smart, so who knows
In the world of Westeros, or do you think that Jorah is going to have a big impact on a plotline with Dany or something? I just don't see what the point is besides they didn't seem to know what else to do with these guys so they are there together. A lot of us get the feeling they are in hurry up mode for these episodes, so scenes like that just stick out as dragging it down for me.
There's a general understanding that Sam Tarly is George Martin's alter-ego, and I believe he has more or less confirmed that in interviews. Anyone thinking Sam's storyline isn't important is not paying attention.
I don't know how it will end but I love how all these various stories are all converging and coming together. Seeing all the characters meeting up and everything pointing in a single direction instead of 10 or 20 is something I'm really enjoying.
Arya said "that's not you". She didn't mean that the wolf wasn't Nymeria, she meant that being a domesticated pet for a human isn't what Nymeria is.
I don't see it that way. I see the writers making a choice that spending time on the boat ride over wasn't important and I agree with that.
They could have staged the same exact 5 minute conversation on the docks before they set out, or a room in Mereen. They didn't have to "spend time" on the boat ride. It's a somewhat glaring misstep to have that conversation after they've spent weeks/months together already.
I'm wondering if there isn't a surprise-afflicted-person that Sam cures (after using Jorah as a guinea pig) that will provide a bigger plot twist than simply Jorah. Someone like Howland Reed? Just speculating (I don't know what books are)...
but how much character development can there be 5 seasons in, without constantly adding new characters? i think we are still seeing the development of plenty of characters (Sansa has become interesting as of late, and her character arc is intriguing), and they need to focus on the plot. i think if you go too much focus on character development you get a product like the Leftovers which basically has plot holes galore, seemingly put into the story as a setting/environment simply to better articulate character
I used to feel that way about Sam, but he is turning into a lynchpin in the whole drama, IMO. Even though he isn't directly involved in most of the action, he was the one who discovered that Dragon Glass can kill a White Walker. And now he has discovered where vast reserves of Dragon Glass exist. And he is going to cure Jorah, who will go on to do something very important.
There seemed to be a lack of drama, tenseness, urgency - all the while moving plots along very quickly.
It was more effective to do it in front of everyone though to establish her authority. It was a message to everyone, not just Varys, to not cross her.
Yeah Sam's storyline has become quite significant. Don't forget he also has a Valyrian sword that should be rather important as well.
Yep.
They've kept Jorah around this long - seems obvious he's got some significant part left to play himself. Maybe surviving greyscale will help him hold up against the others/zombies in a way regular mortals can't?
other than what Groovus mentioned above and that that conversation and some others flew in the face of all the seasons of nuance and intrigue, I actually didn't think it was as bad as that. but- and it's a small point- I noticed something weird about the lighting in that scene that felt after-school-special to me. distracting.
how are they going to fit all of those down in that dungeon? and do they have that many dragon skulls?
I would have also accepted....How are they going to lure Danys dragons into the dungeon?
