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Game of Thrones, tv only, books don't exist, no backstory...NERDS already ruining a series that hasn't started (5 Viewers)

Nick Vermeil said:
I can't keep up with the thread so this has probably been mentioned.  0% chance that sword goes to someone other than Jorah. It's his damn sword really.    
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I think we're getting swords mixed up here. The one Jon has is the sword Jeor (previous Night's Watch commander) Mormont (Jorah's dad) gave him. The one Sam has is the Tarly sword. Maybe Sam loans Jorah his sword, and then he and Jon swap swords at some point if/when they meet up, but as of now Jorah has no claim on the sword Sam has.

Let the innuendo commence...

 
Gr00vus said:
I think we're getting swords mixed up here. The one Jon has is the sword Jeor (previous Night's Watch commander) Mormont (Jorah's dad) gave him. The one Sam has is the Tarly sword. Maybe Sam loans Jorah his sword, and then he and Jon swap swords at some point if/when they meet up, but as of now Jorah has no claim on the sword Sam has.

Let the innuendo commence...
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correct --> Known Valyrian Steel weapons and their current possessors

 
Gr00vus said:
I think we're getting swords mixed up here. The one Jon has is the sword Jeor (previous Night's Watch commander) Mormont (Jorah's dad) gave him. The one Sam has is the Tarly sword. Maybe Sam loans Jorah his sword, and then he and Jon swap swords at some point if/when they meet up, but as of now Jorah has no claim on the sword Sam has.

Let the innuendo commence...
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Hmmmm.  Then my bad.  For some reason I thought John gave Sam longclaw.  

 
Relatedly, it's interesting that at this point in time, the only Valyrian weapon left at the wall is Brienne's (assuming Jon took Longclaw with him to Dragonstone). I figure both Longclaw and Tarly's weapon will make it north at some point. I wonder what will happen with Jamie's blade (the other half of Ice).

 
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Man is there a lot of #####ing here. "I need more Hound, less Samwise." "This is all rushed. I want it to meander like before." "I'm sick of the meandering, I want it rushed." "The writing is not right." "The lighting is off." "Hot Pie and the Dire Wolf suck." "Hot Pie and the Dire Wolf are great." "Dany is a terrible actress." "Dany is a great actress." Quit your #####ing.

I go on vacation a couple days before season seven premiers and don't come in here at all while out of town and then it's two damn days to wade through all the #####ing and whining. There was some great discussion and insight, but for every one of those posts there were five whines about the smallest stuff. Some of you won't be happy unless they have a 24 hour a day live feed of Jorah Mormont sitting in the hold of some ship as it crosses the narrow sea while Dany gets ready for the biggest migration of soldiers and horses across the narrow sea the world has ever seen. 

Now that we have that out of the way. Back to dissecting the show without crying about it.

Do you think the halting of whatever it is that causes the dead to rise and what is inflicting Jorah are linked? Maybe some similarity in the cures? I know this is major tin hat territory, but can maybe Sam cure the Night King? End all the bloodshed with knowledge? 

 
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TheFanatic said:
Do you think the halting of whatever it is that causes the dead to rise and what is inflicting Jorah are linked? Maybe some similarity in the cures? I know this is major tin hat territory, but can maybe Sam cure the Night King? End all the bloodshed with knowledge? 
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No

Why do you equate the dead rising with an illness?

Cure the Night King of what?

Maybe, but the knowledge probably won't relate to 'curing' the bad guys

 
cap'n grunge said:
What if Jon's real father is not Rhaegar Targaryen but rather the Night King himself? Too Star Warsy?
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Given that we know Lyanna (Ned's sister) is Jon's mom, they'd have to fill in a ton of back story about how she ended up having sexy time with the Night's King and still had time to make it to the party down at Harrenhall and why Rheagar would then abduct and protect a woman who's pregnant with a malignant undead ### hole's baby, to the extent he'd put the entire kingdom through a destructive war over it. That'd be a heck of a Bran flashback.

 
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kupcho1 said:
No

Why do you equate the dead rising with an illness?

Cure the Night King of what?

Maybe, but the knowledge probably won't relate to 'curing' the bad guys
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The Night King was once a man. Benjen seems to be halfway between a man and becoming a Walker. So if there's a way to slow or stop the process, maybe there's a way to reverse it for the Night King. Someone seemed to have slowed or stopped the process of Shireen from going all stone girl, and Sam is doing what he can to help Jorah. Maybe whomever came up with the method to cure or stop the stone skin plague knows how to reverse what happened to the Night King.

Of course it would be hidden away in the forbidden section and only some precocious teens with a cloak of invisibility and a little magical knowledge can find the answer. 

 
Koya said:
So, wife just watched this week's episode. She's certainly more into the show than am I, and I like it.

Her reaction to this week? "Well, that was terrible"
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I don't think she knows what words mean.

 
I just don't get what the connection is between the stone skin virus and the undead. The stone skin thing eventually takes you over and drives you insane, so you can't control yourself...it doesn't turn you into an undead zombie. Its different from everything we know. And then the White Walkers who raise the dead are different from both, created by the Children of the Forest magic and seemingly able to propagate, at least using human infants. 

Benjen is the wildcard, and seemingly unique...he seems to have implied that being stabbed by one of their ice swords was causing him to turn until the Children found him and halted it. 

 
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Writers just simply didn't have time to write in the Arya storyline so with the wolf scene have simply rebooted her storyline minus the MFG angle. She now returns to winterfell and will probably simply get killt to cut down on the number of actors they have to pay in the final season.

poke holes

 
culdeus said:
Writers just simply didn't have time to write in the Arya storyline so with the wolf scene have simply rebooted her storyline minus the MFG angle. She now returns to winterfell and will probably simply get killt to cut down on the number of actors they have to pay in the final season.

poke holes
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Hole #1: Not a sand snake

 
culdeus said:
Writers just simply didn't have time to write in the Arya storyline so with the wolf scene have simply rebooted her storyline minus the MFG angle. She now returns to winterfell and will probably simply get killt to cut down on the number of actors they have to pay in the final season.

poke holes
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I don't think she will return to Winterfell.  She has a job to finish.  I think seeing that Nymeria is going to reset her on her path.  She might still die, but it will be in Kings Landing, not Winterfell.

 
culdeus said:
Writers just simply didn't have time to write in the Arya storyline so with the wolf scene have simply rebooted her storyline minus the MFG angle. She now returns to winterfell and will probably simply get killt to cut down on the number of actors they have to pay in the final season.

poke holes
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You think they spent 6 years turning her into a magical killing machine...closed last season and opened this season showing it off...only to ignore that in the endgame? Because she had a meeting with her old direwolf where she acknowledges how much they have both changed (including her change into a magical killing machine)? I'm confused.

 
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TheFanatic said:
The Night King was once a man. Benjen seems to be halfway between a man and becoming a Walker. So if there's a way to slow or stop the process, maybe there's a way to reverse it for the Night King. Someone seemed to have slowed or stopped the process of Shireen from going all stone girl, and Sam is doing what he can to help Jorah. Maybe whomever came up with the method to cure or stop the stone skin plague knows how to reverse what happened to the Night King.

Of course it would be hidden away in the forbidden section and only some precocious teens with a cloak of invisibility and a little magical knowledge can find the answer. 
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The connection is dragonglass - used to cure Benjen, will apparently be used to cure Jorah and can be used to kill WW's.

 
Gr00vus said:
They could have staged the same exact 5 minute conversation on the docks before they set out, or a room in Mereen. They didn't have to "spend time" on the boat ride. It's a somewhat glaring misstep to have that conversation after they've spent weeks/months together already.
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Perhaps she had to wait to press the issue of Varys' loyalty so that he could first arrange to have Lady Tyrell and the Dornish wench meet them on Dragonstone. 

Or maybe it was lazy writing. 

 
Foosball God said:
I don't think she will return to Winterfell.  She has a job to finish.  I think seeing that Nymeria is going to reset her on her path.  She might still die, but it will be in Kings Landing, not Winterfell.
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I didn't think that was nymeria but a rogue dire wolf who arya was very lucky didn't eat her showing that winter is indeed here and all sorts of different creatures are now inhabiting the forests south of the wall.

 
Thunderlips said:
In regards to Arya, I was came across this online:

"In the show, Jaqen still uses his name, which hints at the fact that a name is "earned". The No One ordeal is a test. By the end when Arya kills and scalps Waif, Jaqen tests her again by saying "So a girl truly has become no one?" Arya passes the test by saying "A girl is Arya Stark from Winterfell." It was at that moment Jaqen smiled quite knowingly and thus Arya had earned her name from the Many-Faced God and became a Faceless Man. The season finale episode only confirms her initiation into the Guild of Assassins by the fact she is still able to use the magic given only to Faceless Men by the Many-Faced God."

Makes sense to me.  She has the ability, she is a Faceless Man. 
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:goodposting:   I also think Arya has all the powers of a Faceless Man based on Jaqen telling her she finally had become no one.

 
bagger said:
I didn't think that was nymeria but a rogue dire wolf who arya was very lucky didn't eat her showing that winter is indeed here and all sorts of different creatures are now inhabiting the forests south of the wall.
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So you took the phrase "that isn't you" literally?

Man they really have to spell this stuff out for some people. Reminds me of the people arguing that they didn't specifically reveal Jon Snow's parentage last season.

 
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Just watched it again.  

The Sea Battle isn't as "meh" as I first thought.  Not the biggest fan of dark, medium shot, quick cut action.....but aside from a shot ot two..... it's actually pretty good.

I thought it was Yara hanging, didn't see the second body (Sand Snake) with what looked liker her spear up her butt on the bow above the hanging Snake.

They've set the stage for Dany losing all her Westeros alliances, Iron Born...dead....Sand Snakes....dead..... Niedermyer...dead.   I have to also assume Tarly is going to pledge allegiance to Oleanna and then crawfish and drill that old bag in the ###.  So I guess they're going to push a Jon Snow/Dany allegiance out of a mutual assistance....not him joining her fold.

 
kupcho1 said:
No

Why do you equate the dead rising with an illness?

Cure the Night King of what?

Maybe, but the knowledge probably won't relate to 'curing' the bad guys
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maybe they aren't the bad guys....I mean that lord of light guy is a ####...even though he brought back jon snow and berric dondarrion....he made stannis kill his family....

 
TheFanatic said:
The Night King was once a man. Benjen seems to be halfway between a man and becoming a Walker. So if there's a way to slow or stop the process, maybe there's a way to reverse it for the Night King. Someone seemed to have slowed or stopped the process of Shireen from going all stone girl, and Sam is doing what he can to help Jorah. Maybe whomever came up with the method to cure or stop the stone skin plague knows how to reverse what happened to the Night King.

Of course it would be hidden away in the forbidden section and only some precocious teens with a cloak of invisibility and a little magical knowledge can find the answer. 
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Are you suggesting that the end game is for the Night King to get turned back into a man so that everyone can hug it out and the closing scene involves the Night King, Jon, Dany, Davos and Tyrion dancing in a circle and holding hands to "The Age of Aquaris" wearing white linen while Missandei and the Red Priestess play tambourines topless in the background? Because that would be a stone groove, man.

 
bentley said:
Are you suggesting that the end game is for the Night King to get turned back into a man so that everyone can hug it out and the closing scene involves the Night King, Jon, Dany, Davos and Tyrion dancing in a circle and holding hands to "The Age of Aquaris" wearing white linen while Missandei and the Red Priestess play tambourines topless in the background? Because that would be a stone groove, man.
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It's not cool being a jive turkey so close to Thanksgiving. 

 
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