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Game of Thrones, tv only, books don't exist, no backstory...NERDS already ruining a series that hasn't started (2 Viewers)

Yeah. Jon needs to up his honorific game.

King of the North is good but maybe mix in something like "The Ayatollah of Rock n Rolla".
He needs Chaucer from A Knight's Tale.

A weirwood tree in the godswood of Winterfell. Weirwood is a species ofdeciduous tree found all over Westeros; it has white bark with five-pointed, blood-red leaves and sap. The heart trees are weirwood trees with faces carved on their barks found in the center of godswoods.
Yep.  As others have pointed out, that tree isn't new, and I don't think it's the first weirwood we've seen.  Didn't Bran use one right after uncle Benjan left him ... when he watched the rest of the Jon origin vision in the tower?
That being said, the background on them is definitely a book thing.

 
A weirwood tree in the godswood of Winterfell. Weirwood is a species ofdeciduous tree found all over Westeros; it has white bark with five-pointed, blood-red leaves and sap. The heart trees are weirwood trees with faces carved on their barks found in the center of godswoods.
Oh it's the WEIRWOOD tree. Duh. My bad. 

 
Wow I can't wait to go back and never watch that. 
Yeah why watch every episode of what is the greatest TV series ever? I mean watch enough to post on message boards and talk about it but every episode what am I am f****** maniac? I mean I'm missing a third of the story but whatever. Only a nerd would watch all the episodes , my God!

 
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Oh it's the WEIRWOOD tree. Duh. My bad. 
I mean, I personally don't care that you didn't know that.  People miss things, no big deal.

Flip side, I don't think you can act like it's the smallest of details because it's been chatted about a lot. There are multiple scenes of the one in Winterfell with multiple people chatting about it and and also a lengthy scene between Jon and Sam beyond the wall with one when taking their NW vows. 

 
By the way I was watching The Sopranos and saw an episode where he was talking to a psychologist what's up with that? Seems totally out of character after he chopped up Richie and covered for his sister killing Richie.

 
Yeah why watch every episode of what is the greatest TV series ever? I mean watch enough to post on message boards and talk about it but every episode what am I am f****** maniac? I mean I'm missing a third of the story but whatever. Only a nerd would watch all the episodes , my God!
I've probably seen 90% of the show. I know all the main storylines and I enjoy it plenty. Still, there were probably 5 characters last night who I didn't even know their name. That doesn't bother me at all. I never saw the tree. It's really weird you are taking such offense to that. 

 
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There was also a weirwood tree just north of the wall. Jon and Sam took their Night's Watch Vows at it.

Its part of their religion. Not sure how its any weirder than any "real" religion. :shrug:

 
I mean, I personally don't care that you didn't know that.  People miss things, no big deal.

Flip side, I don't think you can act like it's the smallest of details because it's been chatted about a lot. There are multiple scenes of the one in Winterfell with multiple people chatting about it and and also a lengthy scene between Jon and Sam beyond the wall with one when taking their NW vows. 
:shrug:  

 
Yeah, how dare Capella not watch every episode and remember what every tree looked like.
Its probably a book thing not emphasized in the shows much. The weirwood trees have appeared in different places throughout the show. The "Children" carved faces in the trees. They are sacred trees for followers of the old gods like the Starks. They have white bark and red sap, so are striking in appearance. Much more common in the north, so have been seen in many of Brans scenes over the past seasons. 

 
I've probably seen 90% of the show. I know all the main storylines and I enjoy it plenty. Still, there were probably 5 characters last night who I didn't even know their name. I never saw the tree. It's really weird you are taking such offense to that. 
Congrats?  Not sure what you are looking for here?  Are you going all "too cool for school" like ICON or something?  

 
Congrats?  Not sure what you are looking for here?  Are you going all "too cool for school" like ICON or something?  
Not at all. Am I not supposed to reply to the posts? People are making a way bigger deal out of this than I am. It was a pretty innocuous comment I made that generated way more replies than it should. We can move on once hot diggity dogs gets over the supposed insult. 

 
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So the armies of Dorne & Highgarden WERE on Yara's bhotes, interesting. That battle scene last week falls even flatter knowing that then.

Good stuff all the way around, Not a lot to the backstory of Euron IMO, see spoiler if interested. Dany needs to bust out the dragons ASAP. She was an air advantage over every army she would go up against except Esgaroth, better start using them before she is out of armies.

He spent his life sailing the word, seeing stuff, doing stuff and fighting stuff. I believe they even mention it as a throw away line when he first pops on the scene. He's a pirate doing pirate stuff
 
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I've probably seen 90% of the show. I know all the main storylines and I enjoy it plenty. Still, there were probably 5 characters last night who I didn't even know their name. That doesn't bother me at all. I never saw the tree. It's really weird you are taking such offense to that. 
I'm not taking an offense I'm just saying if you've watched 90% of episodes and you have no idea what a what the tree symbolizes or is you really haven't been paying attention. Quite frankly I'm laughing more than I'm offended.

 
Cold move by Jaime to basically sacrifice many soldiers in a feint move defending Casterly Rock.

How'd you like to be one of the guys left behind as bait for Grey Worm?  Ouch, that's gotta suck.  

Jaime:   "Hey we are heading to wipeout the Tyrell family."

Tim the Lannister Guard:  "Hurray. I can't wait to serve you my lord."

Jaime:  "Um, this is awkward but you aren't coming Tim.  You are going to stay here and get slaughtered.   Have a good one."

Tim the Lannister Guard: :kicksrock:  

 
Not at all. Am I not supposed to reply to the posts? People are making a way bigger deal out of this than I am. It was a pretty innocuous comment I made that generated way more replies than it should. We can move on once hot diggity dogs gets over the supposed insult. 
Oh.  

 
Its probably a book thing not emphasized in the shows much. The weirwood trees have appeared in different places throughout the show. The "Children" carved faces in the trees. They are sacred trees for followers of the old gods like the Starks. They have white bark and red sap, so are striking in appearance. Much more common in the north, so have been seen in many of Brans scenes over the past seasons. 
Not a spoiler, but a book thing.  They were cut down in the south as they represented the old gods.  One of those aspects of going from book to film that gets dropped or moved way off into the background.

 
Only thing in the entire episode that bothered me the slightest bit was Tyrion calling the WW "the walking dead or whatever."  I get that it's a funny reference, but I don't really care for those type things especially in what should be a serious scene. No reason to get cute with it.

 
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I'm not taking an offense I'm just saying if you've watched 90% of episodes and you have no idea what a what the tree symbolizes or is you really haven't been paying attention. Quite frankly I'm laughing more than I'm offended.
I don't care. There's tons about this show I don't know and have to ask about. There's not a quiz at the end. Still enjoy it.   :thumbup:  

 
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Yeah they have shown and talked about the trees a decent amount but honestly it's not that big a deal.   And it feels like a century ago it was discussed.

 
Only thing in the entire episode that bothered me the slightest bit was Tyrion calling the WW "the walking dead or whatever."  I get that it's a funny reference, but I don't really care for those type things especially in what should be a serious scene. No reason to get cute with it.
I could see his character making that comment though.  I have missed tyrions comedy.  He's been MIA on that for a bit

 
So these events will make Dany...

A: Become the Dragon and go scorched earth.

B: Learn some humility and get off of her "bend the knee" kick. 

C: Continue on and have a short stay in Westeros. 
I am thinking that it's #1 followed by another defeat that leads to #2 and possibly #3. 

The Unsullied are stuck on the other side of Westeros.  I guess we assume that she still has enough ships to get the Dothraki on the mainland, but Euron is still hovering around too.  I guess the play is to unleash the dragons on his ships in Blackwater Bay so they can get ashore.   Or they can just use Varys' teleporter.  ;)

 
I am thinking that it's #1 followed by another defeat that leads to #2 and possibly #3. 

The Unsullied are stuck on the other side of Westeros.  I guess we assume that she still has enough ships to get the Dothraki on the mainland, but Euron is still hovering around too.  I guess the play is to unleash the dragons on his ships in Blackwater Bay so they can get ashore.   Or they can just use Varys' teleporter.  ;)
yeah sending the dragons to burn Eurons wooden ships seems like a no brainer and will happen soon

 
So I thought the episode was great.  Great TV that is.  The writing continuity is getting way out of wack though.  Last week Olenna was told to go home and raise her army and march them on King's Landing.  In the time that she made it to Highgarden and did nothing in the way of mobilizing her army, the enemy caught the Dornish, held a parade through the streets, had some more incestuous sex, mobilized their army and marched all the way to Highgarden.  Once there, they defeated a larger army that was defending a stronghold and the show played it off as "Well, your boys are tougher than ours."  If that was the case, then the Tyrells were never a threat to the Lannisters and the last 3 seasons of drama was bull####.

I realize that the show needs to have Cersei look powerful in order for there to continue to be drama, but at this point Euron could've taken over Westeros whenever he wanted with how powerful they're making him out to be.  Lannister's 10,000 men defeated the largest army in Westeros without trouble and Qyburn clearly schooling every Maester in history before him makes Cersei look as though she has more than a passing chance. It's almost like they're trying to portray her as the favorite,which is just absurd when we recall how afraid she was of the Tyrells less than a full season ago.

 
So I thought the episode was great.  Great TV that is.  The writing continuity is getting way out of wack though.  Last week Olenna was told to go home and raise her army and march them on King's Landing.  In the time that she made it to Highgarden and did nothing in the way of mobilizing her army, the enemy caught the Dornish, held a parade through the streets, had some more incestuous sex, mobilized their army and marched all the way to Highgarden.  Once there, they defeated a larger army that was defending a stronghold and the show played it off as "Well, your boys are tougher than ours."  If that was the case, then the Tyrells were never a threat to the Lannisters and the last 3 seasons of drama was bull####.

I realize that the show needs to have Cersei look powerful in order for there to continue to be drama, but at this point Euron could've taken over Westeros whenever he wanted with how powerful they're making him out to be.  Lannister's 10,000 men defeated the largest army in Westeros without trouble and Qyburn clearly schooling every Maester in history before him makes Cersei look as though she has more than a passing chance. It's almost like they're trying to portray her as the favorite,which is just absurd when we recall how afraid she was of the Tyrells less than a full season ago.
Randall Tarly was riding with Jaime in last night's episode.  It's possible that when he changed sides he took a significant portion of the Tyrell forces with him.

 
Reddit comment I liked:

Paraphrasing.  - Jamie realized after giving the poison that the entire ####storm they are in right now was brought on by his Dad falsely accusing his son of murdering his son, likely with his knowledge.   

This opens up the possibility of a backstab of Dany by the imp among other things if he finds a way to share that info.

 
Not to belabor the tree discussion, but isn't that particular tree featured in every opening sequence of the show (at least all the episodes with scenes at Winterfell)?

 
There were some additional really weak dialogue sections this week.  Sansa directing people to put leather on armor was cringeworthy, as was all the whole "we need food for mah bellyz" stuff.  :oldrolleyes:

Sansa as a whole had a really weak acting and dialogue episode.  I'm really starting to move her down into the Dormer tier of hot girls that can't really act their way through bad lines.  

Maybe it was because there were so many classic lines and deliveries this episode that made her look especially weak, not sure.

 
There were some additional really weak dialogue sections this week.  Sansa directing people to put leather on armor was cringeworthy, as was all the whole "we need food for mah bellyz" stuff.  :oldrolleyes:

Sansa as a whole had a really weak acting and dialogue episode.  I'm really starting to move her down into the Dormer tier of hot girls that can't really act their way through bad lines.  

Maybe it was because there were so many classic lines and deliveries this episode that made her look especially weak, not sure.
What was wrong with the armor comment?  It didn't strike me as odd. 

 
Randall Tarly was riding with Jaime in last night's episode.  It's possible that when he changed sides he took a significant portion of the Tyrell forces with him.
Randyll Tarly is a minor lord with a small holding.  He likely had a couple thousand men at best.  Highgarden alone, without their bannermen was said to have 20,000 men earlier in the series.  I doubt that the rest of the Reach rebelled against the Tyrells and were willing to fight against dragons since no other lord was promised the position of Warden of the South like Tarly was, but maybe the show went that way just to equalize the advantage, which is weak IMO.  

 
So I thought the episode was great.  Great TV that is.  The writing continuity is getting way out of wack though.  Last week Olenna was told to go home and raise her army and march them on King's Landing.  In the time that she made it to Highgarden and did nothing in the way of mobilizing her army, the enemy caught the Dornish, held a parade through the streets, had some more incestuous sex, mobilized their army and marched all the way to Highgarden.  Once there, they defeated a larger army that was defending a stronghold and the show played it off as "Well, your boys are tougher than ours."  If that was the case, then the Tyrells were never a threat to the Lannisters and the last 3 seasons of drama was bull####.

I realize that the show needs to have Cersei look powerful in order for there to continue to be drama, but at this point Euron could've taken over Westeros whenever he wanted with how powerful they're making him out to be.  Lannister's 10,000 men defeated the largest army in Westeros without trouble and Qyburn clearly schooling every Maester in history before him makes Cersei look as though she has more than a passing chance. It's almost like they're trying to portray her as the favorite,which is just absurd when we recall how afraid she was of the Tyrells less than a full season ago.
Yeah can't argue to much with any of this.  Just my minor observations the last 3 seasons Cersei  isn't the same as season 7 Cersei. Part of that is her fight with the tyrells has made her "mature" into what she is now. Also I think the Tyrell Army wasn't all at high Garden when the lannisters shoeed up, probably on the road somewhere between High garden and King's Landing.  But yeah there's probably a lot of continuity here that's not working

 
Not to belabor the tree discussion, but isn't that particular tree featured in every opening sequence of the show (at least all the episodes with scenes at Winterfell)?
AHAHAHAHA.

I am laughing because you asked a question about the weird trees in this show.

To be clear, I'm not taking offense.  Just laughing.

 
Randyll Tarly is a minor lord with a small holding.  He likely had a couple thousand men at best.  Highgarden alone, without their bannermen was said to have 20,000 men earlier in the series.  I doubt that the rest of the Reach rebelled against the Tyrells and were willing to fight against dragons since no other lord was promised the position of Warden of the South like Tarly was, but maybe the show went that way just to equalize the advantage, which is weak IMO.  
I agree with you.  Lot's of inconsistency here.  

 
One thing I've learned from this tree discussion is that this show and every single item surrounding it is of the very most serious business. 

 
One thing I've learned from this tree discussion is that this show and every single item surrounding it is of the very most serious business. 
Its impossible to keep track of everything. I just think people are poking fun at you for forgetting something that has been in the show many times in its 7 seasons. Thats all.

 
I agree with you.  Lot's of inconsistency here.  
I don't think it is inconsistent to think most of them would join the Lannisters against the Unsullied and Dothraki. Of course the dragons are a game changer, but nobody has even seen them, so a good chance they are more concerned about getting raped by Donthraki than burned by dragons. 

 
Yeah, how dare Capella not watch every episode and remember what every tree looked like.
It's not a random tree and it's not the only tree we've seen like that. It's pretty important to the plot (that particular tree and the fact that they exist at all and why). Pretty stupid to criticize something if you're someone who knows he hasn't seen every episode and don't have the context.  Never mind the fact that we just saw that tree in the season finale last year, and many times before that. 

 
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Randyll Tarly is a minor lord with a small holding.  He likely had a couple thousand men at best.  Highgarden alone, without their bannermen was said to have 20,000 men earlier in the series.  I doubt that the rest of the Reach rebelled against the Tyrells and were willing to fight against dragons since no other lord was promised the position of Warden of the South like Tarly was, but maybe the show went that way just to equalize the advantage, which is weak IMO.  
I believe last week Jaime told Randall Tarly he was the only man to defeat Robert Baratheon in battle and the Lords of the Reach would follow his lead.  He;s much more than a minor lord with a small hold.

 

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