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This deserves a bump. Some of the best work done in this thread.A girl has no hymen
This deserves a bump. Some of the best work done in this thread.A girl has no hymen
As someone with a Breaking Bad icon, you should know how a final season and series finale is done. People wouldn't piss and moan about GoT if it was good.Most would rather just piss and moan. The backlash to this last season just shows how awful the internet can be.
The last season was not great and had some clear flaws. I have said that, but this idea that it was terrible, awful, etc. is just way over the top. There were a crap load of great GoT moments in Season 8.As someone with a Breaking Bad icon, you should know how a final season and series finale is done. People wouldn't piss and moan about GoT if it was good.
Those pissing and moaning about the pissing and moaning just don't have high standards for the final season of a show that was setting the bar pretty high.
Yeah the whole vito story line was awful as was the actually ending of sopranos....i dd like the phil vs tony war though.....The last season was not great and had some clear flaws. I have said that, but this idea that it was terrible, awful, etc. is just way over the top. There were a crap load of great GoT moments in Season 8.
Also, it is unrealistic to expect other shows to be as close to flawless as Breaking Bad was from start to finish. Even The Sopranos, which I'd also put in the GoT category, had a choppy last season (or two if we want to count 6a and 6b as two). It is not easy to do that many seasons and never have hiccups.
Tywin, Robert, Cersei, and Tyrion might be the 4 best characters on the show- I could watch endlesslyempty Sunday night ... it was a helluva run.
recalling the power of the earlier writing - the show had unparalleled brilliance; the latter seasons just don't compare
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and Joffrey bought an awful lot of mustard, as well ... gotta hand it to that kid Gleeson, he was a pitch perfect villainous lil' ####Tywin, Robert, Cersei, and Tyrion might be the 4 best characters on the show- I could watch endlessly
Was coming in here to see if anyone watched it/was it worthwhile.Good Posting Judge said:GOT season 8 "making of" documentary > GOT season 8
I can't put Robert on that list (he was great, but wasn't around long enough), but I agree that Tywin, Cersei and Tyrion were all incredible characters. Those damn Lannisters.Ilov80s said:Tywin, Robert, Cersei, and Tyrion might be the 4 best characters on the show- I could watch endlessly
It was cool. I thought there would be more interaction with the actors but the crew deserved the love.Was coming in here to see if anyone watched it/was it worthwhile.
That would have been buried under the Ewok travesty.Watched Return of the Jedi last night...wondering if a board like this or Twitter was around how many would have complained about Boba Fett getting such a lame death by Han accidentally activating his rockets sending him into the sarlacc pit
That scene with Robert and Cersei was incredible. Probably the first time in 17 years they spoke honestly with each other.otb_lifer said:empty Sunday night ... it was a helluva run.
recalling the power of the earlier writing - the show had unparalleled brilliance; the latter seasons just don't compare
i'm not TIRED!
pops laying it down
jugglers and singers require applause
favorite scene of the lot
And talk about poor planning...hiding Luke from his father and the empower by placing him with...Skywalkers? Yeah great plan there. Big power the dark side is they couldn’t figure that one out.That would have been buried under the Ewok travesty.
TBH, I didn't get that bent about Boba Fett's death, and I had 2 Boba Fett action figures that you got by sending in the Proof of Purchase 'tags' from other merchandise.
I didn't finish it, but I thought it was really interesting. It really gets into how much insanely glamorous work there is behind the scenes to pull it off.Was coming in here to see if anyone watched it/was it worthwhile.
Excellent list. Tywin was friggin awesome. Here's my personal fave: I will be your championotb_lifer said:empty Sunday night ... it was a helluva run.
recalling the power of the earlier writing - the show had unparalleled brilliance; the latter seasons just don't compare
i'm not TIRED!
pops laying it down
jugglers and singers require applause
favorite scene of the lot
Pretty sure the extra they focused on had more screen time in the special than Cersei did all season 8Good Posting Judge said:GOT season 8 "making of" documentary > GOT season 8
The extra they focused on was hilarious.It was cool. I thought there would be more interaction with the actors but the crew deserved the love.Was coming in here to see if anyone watched it/was it worthwhile.
Would’ve been a nightmare and the same people complaining about everything else now probably love that movie.Watched Return of the Jedi last night...wondering if a board like this or Twitter was around how many would have complained about Boba Fett getting such a lame death by Han accidentally activating his rockets sending him into the sarlacc pit
Please take your false equivalence over the the PSF where it will have some friends to play with.Would’ve been a nightmare and the same people complaining about everything else now probably love that movie.
Sorry don’t go there this thread is my yearly allotment of dumb people who think they and only they know best.Please take your false equivalence over the the PSF where it will have some friends to play with.
That's too bad. You might be able to pick up on the irony of it all.Sorry don’t go there this thread is my yearly allotment of dumb people who think they and only they know best.
Well I’m hoping here I pick up some skills for how to write scripts for a mega-huge tv show.That's too bad. You might be able to pick up on the irony of it all.
I’m not sure what you’re getting at? One can’t have an opinion about the quality of the writing if they have not written a screenplay themselves?Well I’m hoping here I pick up some skills for how to write scripts for a mega-huge tv show.
No. Somebody said in here last week that half the people in this thread could have written a better season.I’m not sure what you’re getting at? One can’t have an opinion about the quality of the writing if they have not written a screenplay themselves?
Oh. Lol.No. Somebody said in here last week that half the people in this thread could have written a better season.
I was thinking about this thread while watching S1 of the Sopranos a few days ago on a flight...I mean, both of the hired hit men basically handed their guns to Tony in his truck...they couldn’t have stood back 10 feet and fired away? I chuckled and kept enjoying.Would’ve been a nightmare and the same people complaining about everything else now probably love that movie.
Exactly.I was thinking about this thread while watching S1 of the Sopranos a few days ago on a flight...I mean, both of the hired hit men basically handed their guns to Tony in his truck...they couldn’t have stood back 10 feet and fired away? I chuckled and kept enjoying.
To be fair it wasn't that they could write a better season, just better dialogue.No. Somebody said in here last week that half the people in this thread could have written a better season.
That was great!
I think the main criticisms of the writing that so many people have are not in the lack of attention to momentary details, but rather huge narrative plot holes and lack of cohesion generally.Exactly.
Heck, we could point at the episode in S2 of Game of Thrones where Littlefinger clearly recognizes Arya when talking to Twyin, and even though he reacts to seeing her and his eyes follow her as she crosses the room, Tywin, a guy who never missed a thing, didn't notice despite the fact that he was looking right at Littlefinger the entire time. But, oh wait, that is Season 2, and the writers never did a thing wrong when using the book material, according to some.
Its obvious they spent all their time on the burning of kl. And the nk battle....I think the main criticisms of the writing that so many people have are not in the lack of attention to momentary details, but rather huge narrative plot holes and lack of cohesion generally.
Thanks. You are so right. I rewatched the part of the TV show that is the book Prologue. Man, it is sooo different in most all the things that I wrote about in the Reread thread. After that experience, I fully understand why some of my opinions make little sense.As always, well done MoCS . These rereads are going to be interesting to be sure but be careful not to focus too much on what the show has shown us. That’s my fear, that I’m going to read these again through the glasses of GoT’s the show as opposed to GoT’s the story.
Yeah. I agree here too. I still liked it a lot though. I may rewatch bits and pieces during the read to compare some things. But I am going to do my best to follow your idea. I want to read it through the book first and then see how the show did it.I forget who but one of the contributors in this thread summed it up well, GRRM gave them the ending and a rough outline how to get there but I think they used a lot of latitude. They made it a Hollywood story as opposed to a GoT’s story.
Whoa. This is great.Definitely a bit disappointed in the story the last season or two. Just felt like too many interesting storylines were left unresolved or brought to abrupt endings. Everything else remained good, but part of the appeal of GoT was all the intriguing hints and side plots and too many of those were abandoned or didn't have satisfying payoffs. I'm sure plenty of people have come up with better ideas, but a few threads could have been tied together by connecting the Night King, Faceless Men and Lord of Light. Maybe something like the NIght King represents death and seeks to make all living things die. The Lord of Light represent Life and seeks to spread life. The Faceless Men represent balance between life and death...they kill those who are supposed to die and allow life for those who are supposed to live...life and death are two sides of the same coin. Instead of Arya killing the Night King just being her stabbing a bad guy to death, she could be using Faceless Man abilities to bring balance back to the world and send the Night King back north for another few thousand years.
The idea of "power resides where men believe it to be" could have been tied into this too. When too many people despair, the Night King's influence grows. When too many are overoptimistic, the Lord of Light becomes too strong. So whatever actions Arya took could have been something that gave people hope and reduced the Night King's power that way.
The point of the Three Eyed Raven could have been that by seeing that past, Bran was able to see that no matter how bad or how good things look at any time, they cycle back and forth around some balance. So his sharing of what he saw in the past could have also brought enough hope to people to limit the power of the Night King.
I especially like how you use the bold.The idea of "power resides where men believe it to be" could have been tied into this too. When too many people despair, the Night King's influence grows. When too many are overoptimistic, the Lord of Light becomes too strong. So whatever actions Arya took could have been something that gave people hope and reduced the Night King's power that way.
Yeah. And the bold is kind of like what Gandalf did. At one point it is explained (somewhere) that Gandalf's main purpose was to inspire and bring hope to the forces of good. Yeah - he could have nuked the opposing army like he did the balrog, but he didn't.The point of the Three Eyed Raven could have been that by seeing that past, Bran was able to see that no matter how bad or how good things look at any time, they cycle back and forth around some balance. So his sharing of what he saw in the past could have also brought enough hope to people to limit the power of the Night King.
It is both. They did a great job bringing page to life, but when they had to come up with original material, it lacked in some regards. And it was more noticeable as they veered further from the books (entire Dorne plot) and even more so when they went well past them (Seasons 7 and 8).I think the main criticisms of the writing that so many people have are not in the lack of attention to momentary details, but rather huge narrative plot holes and lack of cohesion generally.
That whole Arya as Tywin's cup-bearer and Little finger showing up at Harrenhall did NOT happen in the books.Exactly.
Heck, we could point at the episode in S2 of Game of Thrones where Littlefinger clearly recognizes Arya when talking to Twyin, and even though he reacts to seeing her and his eyes follow her as she crosses the room, Tywin, a guy who never missed a thing, didn't notice despite the fact that he was looking right at Littlefinger the entire time. But, oh wait, that is Season 2, and the writers never did a thing wrong when using the book material, according to some.
I just assumed Tywin knew.Exactly.
Heck, we could point at the episode in S2 of Game of Thrones where Littlefinger clearly recognizes Arya when talking to Twyin, and even though he reacts to seeing her and his eyes follow her as she crosses the room, Tywin, a guy who never missed a thing, didn't notice despite the fact that he was looking right at Littlefinger the entire time. But, oh wait, that is Season 2, and the writers never did a thing wrong when using the book material, according to some.
Can you imagine if Murrica picked a President this way, and you had like 7-8 power brokers, and one guy gives a monologue and then everyone just kinda shrugs and says "Yeah, that sounds good."Bran said him being King was Martins idea.... SUCK ON THAT NERDS
Who doubts that? It is more about how the show half-assed his storyline.Bran said him being King was Martins idea.... SUCK ON THAT NERDS