Game Thread W10 - NYGiants V Philadelphia (1 Viewer)

[Lehigh98]

Oh crap, 4th and short.

Andy's passing here.

 

[fflnut]

Hrm, interesting option there especially with all that time during the 2 min warning to prepare.

 

[NoFBinLA]

some will complain...but I like what McNabb did there...no reason to rush a key third down play to save...literrally hat play

And they wasted time, to run the ball?

 

[Bogart]

really? now with that play?

 

[Novice2]

Stupid Stupid Stupid

 

[Cybergeek]

McNabb is tired? Really? Somewhere, Terrell Owens is laughing.

You mean Freddy Mitchell.

 

[Moe Green]

WEAK

 

[duece2626]

They deserve to lose this game after those brutal play calls!! LOL

 

[scratcher]

Failure.

 

[NoFBinLA]

Wow - I just had a flashback to Chicago.

Bummer.

 

[Bogart]

LOL

 

[Mighty Mice]

Run on 3rd and 4th. Why. No justification for the playcalls.

 

[renesauz]

Did Andy call those runs...or DMac?

HORRIBLE play call

 

[Yenrub]

HELL YEAH D

GREAT STOP

 

[Lehigh98]

When is Andy going to realize we can't slam it up the middle for 1 yard?

 

[NoFBinLA]

You know what would be useful here? Timeouts.

You know what didn't need to happen? Bad challenges.

 

[JaxBill]

Eagles were outcoached....again.

 

[Mighty Mice]

 

[renesauz]

running behind their weakest lineman no less.....WTF was Andy thinking there?????

 

[scratcher]

This is THE most frustrating team EVER

 

[renesauz]

You know what would be useful here? Timeouts. You know what didn't need to happen? Bad challenges.

one bad challenge....the second challenge was a good one. had the call on the field been fumble...that wouldn't have been reversed either

 

[Novice2]

They deserve to lose this game after those brutal play calls!! LOL

That can be said after every Eagles game

 

[TidesofWar]

Unbelievable play selections

 

[scratcher]

cant say im surprised, what a waste of talent.

 

[JaxBill]

Geez, the Eagles really know how to not suck enough to keep your hopes up...

Time now for the Eagles to get 7 to get your hopes back up only to get dashed in the last 2 minutes.

But I'm alot less pessimistic about Philly sports since the Phils won so who knows?

One of these days, Lucy won't yank the football away.

 

[NoFBinLA]

You know what would be useful here? Timeouts. You know what didn't need to happen? Bad challenges.

one bad challenge....the second challenge was a good one. had the call on the field been fumble...that wouldn't have been reversed either

I meant bad challenges in general, not that both challenges were bad.But that first one was a huge waste. It was almost unconscionable.

 

[renesauz]

You know what would be useful here? Timeouts. You know what didn't need to happen? Bad challenges.

one bad challenge....the second challenge was a good one. had the call on the field been fumble...that wouldn't have been reversed either

I meant bad challenges in general, not that both challenges were bad.But that first one was a huge waste. It was almost unconscionable.

agreed. The thing on that first one that really got me was how quickly he threw the challenge flag...he never even gave the boys upstairs a chance to take a look and tell him not to waste it.

 

[NoFBinLA]

You know what would be useful here? Timeouts. You know what didn't need to happen? Bad challenges.

one bad challenge....the second challenge was a good one. had the call on the field been fumble...that wouldn't have been reversed either

I meant bad challenges in general, not that both challenges were bad.But that first one was a huge waste. It was almost unconscionable.

agreed. The thing on that first one that really got me was how quickly he threw the challenge flag...he never even gave the boys upstairs a chance to take a look and tell him not to waste it.

It's still killing me how Madden and Michaels were talking about how he HAD to challenge it even though it was clearly a bad idea.It was an incredible waste.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

This ame came down to that one putrid reversal by the ref. There's no way there was enough conclusive evidence to overturn the on-field call. There's no way he could heve been 100% sure Manning wasn't behind the LOS.

 

[Lehigh98]

Even Tiki's calling out Reid's playcalling.

 

[Giantseasonticketholder]

This ame came down to that one putrid reversal by the ref. There's no way there was enough conclusive evidence to overturn the on-field call. There's no way he could heve been 100% sure Manning wasn't behind the LOS.

Once NBC fixed the line and we all saw what the ref was looking at, it was the right call.

 

[Giantseasonticketholder]

Even Tiki's calling out Reid's playcalling.

Tiki = Captain Obvious

 

[Koya]

my god Eli sucks..

Sucks like an 8-1, Super Bowl MVP, Team MVP through the playoff/Super Bowl run World Champion?

 

[Deranged Hermit]

This ame came down to that one putrid reversal by the ref. There's no way there was enough conclusive evidence to overturn the on-field call. There's no way he could heve been 100% sure Manning wasn't behind the LOS.

Once NBC fixed the line and we all saw what the ref was looking at, it was the right call.

My point is that there was no way, in that short of a time span, that the ref could have 100% conclusively made the call that he was behind the line. Someting that close has to stay with the on-field call. Hell, it took NBC 20 minutes to get the 'correct' line drawn.

 

[PranksterJD]

This ame came down to that one putrid reversal by the ref. There's no way there was enough conclusive evidence to overturn the on-field call. There's no way he could heve been 100% sure Manning wasn't behind the LOS.

Once NBC fixed the line and we all saw what the ref was looking at, it was the right call.

My point is that there was no way, in that short of a time span, that the ref could have 100% conclusively made the call that he was behind the line. Someting that close has to stay with the on-field call. Hell, it took NBC 20 minutes to get the 'correct' line drawn.

I dunno... I think NBC's first "line" actually made it harder. Both myself and Rovers picked it out during their replays, even with the deceptive line. Since the refs wouldn't have had the faulty marker skewing their vision, seems like it would have been even easier to make the overturn..

 

[JaxBill]

This ame came down to that one putrid reversal by the ref. There's no way there was enough conclusive evidence to overturn the on-field call. There's no way he could heve been 100% sure Manning wasn't behind the LOS.

Once NBC fixed the line and we all saw what the ref was looking at, it was the right call.

If the Eagles d-line wasn't geting blown off the ball, I'd say you were using the correct verb.

 

[Rovers]

This ame came down to that one putrid reversal by the ref. There's no way there was enough conclusive evidence to overturn the on-field call. There's no way he could heve been 100% sure Manning wasn't behind the LOS.

Once NBC fixed the line and we all saw what the ref was looking at, it was the right call.

My point is that there was no way, in that short of a time span, that the ref could have 100% conclusively made the call that he was behind the line. Someting that close has to stay with the on-field call. Hell, it took NBC 20 minutes to get the 'correct' line drawn.

Stop whining.... if you look at the play, the red line was a good foot behind the LoS sideline marker. When viewing the replay, the refs don't see that red line... and on this play, it was inaccurate. If you look at the side line marker.... there it IS QUITE clear that Mannings feet, both of them were behind the LoS. You are blinded by homerism on this one... as neither a fan ot the Giants or Eagles, this one was blatantly obvious. No, it wasn't close, and the on field call was wrong.... as wrong as you are.

 

[renesauz]

This ame came down to that one putrid reversal by the ref. There's no way there was enough conclusive evidence to overturn the on-field call. There's no way he could heve been 100% sure Manning wasn't behind the LOS.

Once NBC fixed the line and we all saw what the ref was looking at, it was the right call.

My point is that there was no way, in that short of a time span, that the ref could have 100% conclusively made the call that he was behind the line. Someting that close has to stay with the on-field call. Hell, it took NBC 20 minutes to get the 'correct' line drawn.

Stop whining.... if you look at the play, the red line was a good foot behind the LoS sideline marker. When viewing the replay, the refs don't see that red line... and on this play, it was inaccurate. If you look at the side line marker.... there it IS QUITE clear that Mannings feet, both of them were behind the LoS. You are blinded by homerism on this one... as neither a fan ot the Giants or Eagles, this one was blatantly obvious. No, it wasn't close, and the on field call was wrong.... as wrong as you are.

It was close, and only one foot was BARELY behind the line. But the ball was just as clearly almost a full yar ahead of the line when he released it.The refs were corect in reversing the call on the field...but that doesn't make it a good rule. Every other instance of placement in the game comes down to where the BALL IS, not the ankle of the guy with the ball.It's simply a dumb rule.

 

[Giantseasonticketholder]

my god Eli sucks..

Sucks like an 8-1, Super Bowl MVP, Team MVP through the playoff/Super Bowl run World Champion?

 

[Novice2]

This ame came down to that one putrid reversal by the ref. There's no way there was enough conclusive evidence to overturn the on-field call. There's no way he could heve been 100% sure Manning wasn't behind the LOS.

Once NBC fixed the line and we all saw what the ref was looking at, it was the right call.

Even though Madden was right when he said he still hasn't released the ball when they froze the play so everyone could see Eli's ankle on the red line.

 

[Dragon1952]

If Philadelphia can't win that game at home, they are in bad shape. The only thing that made it look halfway respectable was the 7 pt lead they were spotted. That game was no where near as close as the final score indicated. 220 yds rushing! Give me a break. Now they've got at Baltimore, at NY Giants, at Washington, at home vs the Cards and what will probably be a healthy Cowboy team. Maybe they can beat Cincinnati and Cleveland.

 

[[scooter]]

It was close, and only one foot was BARELY behind the line. But the ball was just as clearly almost a full yar ahead of the line when he released it.

Actually, his foot wasn't BEHIND the line -- it was ON the line. But apparently that's OK under the rule.Still, that goes against the principles of every other rule in the book:- you're out-of-bounds if any part of your body is ON the line- you score a TD if any part of the ball is ON the line- you're offsides if any part of your body is ON the line-of-scrimmageetc.

 

[fred_1_15301]

If Philadelphia can't win that game at home, they are in bad shape. The only thing that made it look halfway respectable was the 7 pt lead they were spotted. That game was no where near as close as the final score indicated. 220 yds rushing! Give me a break. Now they've got at Baltimore, at NY Giants, at Washington, at home vs the Cards and what will probably be a healthy Cowboy team. Maybe they can beat Cincinnati and Cleveland.

..........Eagles fans can complain about the calls but the bottom line is the better team won. The Eagles really didn't do much all game but the Giants did the best they could to keep them in it. I'm not a fan of either team but at no point in this game did I think the Eagles were the better team.

 

[thayman]

It was close, and only one foot was BARELY behind the line. But the ball was just as clearly almost a full yar ahead of the line when he released it.

Actually, his foot wasn't BEHIND the line -- it was ON the line. But apparently that's OK under the rule.Still, that goes against the principles of every other rule in the book:- you're out-of-bounds if any part of your body is ON the line- you score a TD if any part of the ball is ON the line- you're offsides if any part of your body is ON the line-of-scrimmageetc.

I always took it the other way, you are still BEHIND the LOS if any part of your body is on/behind the line.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

This ame came down to that one putrid reversal by the ref. There's no way there was enough conclusive evidence to overturn the on-field call. There's no way he could heve been 100% sure Manning wasn't behind the LOS.

Once NBC fixed the line and we all saw what the ref was looking at, it was the right call.

My point is that there was no way, in that short of a time span, that the ref could have 100% conclusively made the call that he was behind the line. Someting that close has to stay with the on-field call. Hell, it took NBC 20 minutes to get the 'correct' line drawn.

Stop whining.... if you look at the play, the red line was a good foot behind the LoS sideline marker. When viewing the replay, the refs don't see that red line... and on this play, it was inaccurate. If you look at the side line marker.... there it IS QUITE clear that Mannings feet, both of them were behind the LoS. You are blinded by homerism on this one... as neither a fan ot the Giants or Eagles, this one was blatantly obvious. No, it wasn't close, and the on field call was wrong.... as wrong as you are.

Uh, I'm a Chicago Bears fan there skippy, so no homerism here. How many times have you heard the phrase: 'that play's too close to overturn?' Or maybe "I think he's out of bounds, but they'll probably just go with what was called on the field".Again, I keep repeating this, the play was way too close to overturn the on field call.

 

[Mik789fl]

This ame came down to that one putrid reversal by the ref. There's no way there was enough conclusive evidence to overturn the on-field call. There's no way he could heve been 100% sure Manning wasn't behind the LOS.

Once NBC fixed the line and we all saw what the ref was looking at, it was the right call.

My point is that there was no way, in that short of a time span, that the ref could have 100% conclusively made the call that he was behind the line. Someting that close has to stay with the on-field call. Hell, it took NBC 20 minutes to get the 'correct' line drawn.

Stop whining.... if you look at the play, the red line was a good foot behind the LoS sideline marker. When viewing the replay, the refs don't see that red line... and on this play, it was inaccurate. If you look at the side line marker.... there it IS QUITE clear that Mannings feet, both of them were behind the LoS. You are blinded by homerism on this one... as neither a fan ot the Giants or Eagles, this one was blatantly obvious. No, it wasn't close, and the on field call was wrong.... as wrong as you are.

Uh, I'm a Chicago Bears fan there skippy, so no homerism here. How many times have you heard the phrase: 'that play's too close to overturn?' Or maybe "I think he's out of bounds, but they'll probably just go with what was called on the field".Again, I keep repeating this, the play was way too close to overturn the on field call.

In your opinion,In the ref's opinion(the one that matters)there WAS enough evidence to overturn the call on the field. but for argument's sake let's say it wasn't reversed. Carney probably kicks another short field goal and The Giants win 32-31. Either way The Eagles lose another game to a quality opponent.