Game Thread W14 - Green Bay V Detroit (1 Viewer)

[sho nuff]

Horrible playcalls at the end, typical McCarthy.

That was a great call at the end of the game - Jennings was open, Flynn had time.Flynn just missed the throw - a little more loft....and Jennings could of let that one bounce off his helmet to.Detroit won that game. Packers blew chunks.

I disagree, the playcall was terrible. Flynn missed the throw because he's a backup QB. You really need to call a play with a higher probability of success when you have a backup QB in the game. I hate it when McCarthy calls the deep balls on 3rd in short when Rodgers is in the game. I hate it even more when it's Flynn.

 

[K8!]

Disheartening loss.

To be certain there are built in excuses if one looks for them, but the Lions were down to their third string Q.B. so excuses would ring hollow. I'm going to just congratulate Detroit and watch the rest of the season unfold.

 

[smackdaddies]

Horrible playcalls at the end, typical McCarthy.

That was a great call at the end of the game - Jennings was open, Flynn had time.Flynn just missed the throw - a little more loft....and Jennings could of let that one bounce off his helmet to.Detroit won that game. Packers blew chunks.

I disagree, the playcall was terrible. Flynn missed the throw because he's a backup QB. You really need to call a play with a higher probability of success when you have a backup QB in the game. I hate it when McCarthy calls the deep balls on 3rd in short when Rodgers is in the game. I hate it even more when it's Flynn.

I guess I expect quarterbacks in the nfl to make a 30 yard pass. You must have different expectations.

 

[sho nuff]

Horrible playcalls at the end, typical McCarthy.

That was a great call at the end of the game - Jennings was open, Flynn had time.Flynn just missed the throw - a little more loft....and Jennings could of let that one bounce off his helmet to.Detroit won that game. Packers blew chunks.

I disagree, the playcall was terrible. Flynn missed the throw because he's a backup QB. You really need to call a play with a higher probability of success when you have a backup QB in the game. I hate it when McCarthy calls the deep balls on 3rd in short when Rodgers is in the game. I hate it even more when it's Flynn.

I guess I expect quarterbacks in the nfl to make a 30 yard pass. You must have different expectations.

I expect an NFL team to try picking up the first down.

 

[BeaverCleaver]

Horrible playcalls at the end, typical McCarthy.

He will never get this team to a Super Bowl.

I agree...he will not get matt flynn to the super bowl.

How were they doing in the first half? You can continue to think McCarthy will win a Super Bowl. I disagree.

Not well...they have sucked a lot early in games and ended up turning it on.It was a bit of a joke though.

As for thinking he "will" win a Super Bowl. I have no idea if he "will". Don't recall ever saying he would for sure.

I think he can.

Why? What have you seen from him as a game coach to think he can take a team to the Super Bowl and win? His record in tight games is terrible and today he brain farted again down the stretch.

 

[sho nuff]

Not going to get into it with your crap...sorry.

 

[BeaverCleaver]

Not going to get into it with your crap...sorry.

Crap? I asked you a serious question and poor sho can't answer it.

 

[Eric Stratton]

Not going to get into it with your crap...sorry.

Crap? I asked you a serious question and poor sho can't answer it.

I'd like to see his answer.

 

[sho nuff]

Yes...crap...sorry to disappoint you two...I'm not going to keep clustering up these threads going back and forth with guys like you.

 

[Eric Stratton]

Yes...crap...sorry to disappoint you two...I'm not going to keep clustering up these threads going back and forth with guys like you.

He asked a legitimate question....."What have you seen from him as a game coach to think he can take a team to the Super Bowl and win?" Why can't you answer it?

 

[Ghost Rider]

This is a devastating loss for the Packers because now, if the Bears beat the Vikings next week (which would guarantee them a better division record than GB), the Packers need to win out at best to win the division, which means they'll have to win at NE (and also hope the Bears lose to the Jets week 16). This means the Packers fans have to root like hell for the Vikings next week. Yikes.

 

[sho nuff]

Yes...crap...sorry to disappoint you two...I'm not going to keep clustering up these threads going back and forth with guys like you.

He asked a legitimate question....."What have you seen from him as a game coach to think he can take a team to the Super Bowl and win?" Why can't you answer it?

I think a lot of coaches "can" win it. I'm just not saying its impossible like beaver.I've stated this...now end it.

 

[Gopher State]

Lions outplayed the Packers today, plain and simple, great job by them

Packer o-line looked like pea soup, no running game again, playoffs looking harder to reach

 

[Eric Stratton]

Yes...crap...sorry to disappoint you two...I'm not going to keep clustering up these threads going back and forth with guys like you.

He asked a legitimate question....."What have you seen from him as a game coach to think he can take a team to the Super Bowl and win?" Why can't you answer it?

I think a lot of coaches "can" win it. I'm just not saying its impossible like beaver.I've stated this...now end it.

Beaver said that McCarthy won't win a Super Bowl with the Packers and you disagreed with that statement. I'd like to know as well what you see from him that makes you think he can other than "a lot of coaches can win it". That's just lame, sho.

 

[sho nuff]

And that's why I said I wouldn't rescind...same old crap. Sorry that you don't like my answer...

 

[Eric Stratton]

And that's why I said I wouldn't rescind...same old crap. Sorry that you don't like my answer...

You said the Packers need a coach that will use a RB. Does that mean you want to see a different head coach? That doesn't make sense since you think McCarthy can win a Super Bowl with the Packers.

 

[griff321]

THIS is the best team in the Division?

not yetbut give us another good draft or two and we will be

I couldn't agree more and I've been saying that along with numerous other posters in the game threads that they seem like a team on the verge...even if Detroit fans disagreed. If this team could get a little(ok maybe a lot) better in its secondary it'll have the best D in the NFC and maybe even the league. A guy or two would allow the others to slide into bit roles and excel.The offense just needs a healthy QB not named Stanton and they can put up as many points as any team in this league.IMO this Packer team got caught looking ahead to the Pats, but they're really over performing their talent level and it's painfully obvious to anyone not hugging Darth Thompson's nuts. You can't play teams that gave up every week

 

[faulkfan]

It was kind of disappointing to see Starks get so few carries. 6 touches to Jackson's 7, but I think this game was a bit of anomoly and there is a chance that McCarthy was protecting his young QB by putting veterans around him.

Having not seen the game, does anyone have a take on this?

 

[rocketsauce]

Packers couldn't run AT ALL. Didn't matter if it was Jackson, Starks, or Nance. The Detroit front 4 simply had their way with the Packers on every play. Tackles were abused on pass plays, and the entire middle caved in on run plays.

So I wouldn't take much out of this in terms of the Packers Run Game and trying to pick the right guy. However, its fairly painfully obvious that the Packers can't run.

 

[Flash]

Packers couldn't run AT ALL. Didn't matter if it was Jackson, Starks, or Nance. The Detroit front 4 simply had their way with the Packers on every play. Tackles were abused on pass plays, and the entire middle caved in on run plays. So I wouldn't take much out of this in terms of the Packers Run Game and trying to pick the right guy. However, its fairly painfully obvious that the Packers can't run.

This is true, however they didn't even try.It was another horrible gameplan by McCarthy

 

[rocketsauce]

Yeah, it felt like it was really on McCarthy. Horrible non challenge on the Jennings TD, generally poor play calling, having your backup throw 26 times in a half is way too much, and that last series, with the shotgun run on 2nd and 2 and then 2 deep heaves was just atrocious.

 

[Flash]

Yeah, it felt like it was really on McCarthy. Horrible non challenge on the Jennings TD, generally poor play calling, having your backup throw 26 times in a half is way too much, and that last series, with the shotgun run on 2nd and 2 and then 2 deep heaves was just atrocious.

With the way the Detroit Dwfense was teeing off and blowing us off the line, a screen pass or 3 would have been a great play.McCaerthy goes deep twicw,,,,,, really Mike?Way to choke again jerk

 

[Ookie Pringle]

Yeah, it felt like it was really on McCarthy. Horrible non challenge on the Jennings TD, generally poor play calling, having your backup throw 26 times in a half is way too much, and that last series, with the shotgun run on 2nd and 2 and then 2 deep heaves was just atrocious.

 

[Biabreakable]

I think you guys are being a bit harsh on GB coaching staff.

You say that the Packers should have tried to run more. Detroit was getting penetration on almost every snap and the running game was not going to get going under those circumstances. Sure you call running plays anyways to try to keep the defense honest (which they did) but the running game was NOT going to be established the way Detroit was dominating the LOS.

You also say the Packers should have run more screen passes. They did run many screen passes. The problem is they were not working because Detroit was taking out the screen target on their way to the QB. I saw 2 attempted screens blown up before they could get set up. That is how much Detroit was doing with their front 4.

Rodgers was not getting anything going before he was hurt either. That is why he was extending to make the 1st down on the play where he was injured.

Just overall a dominating win for Detroit because of their defensive line and despite Stanton who borders on Spurgon Wynn quality. That is not so good.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

I have no problem with McCarthy's gameplan or his playcalling, but I've given my opinion many times on that topic and won't rehash it here. In short, I don't think the common NFL fan has any basis to judge an NFL coach's playcalling. Packer fans are no different than others, when the team is winning, they are all geniuses. One or two bad losses, and suddenly everyone sucks and should be fired. I'm as guilty of it as anyone.

People quickly forget that the Packers didn't convert their first 3rd down until midway through the 3rd qtr. By that time, McCarthy had tried everything, including running (middle and wide), screens and swing passes, rolling the QB, dink/dunk - nothing was working. By midway through the second half, they were on their third LG of the game and it seemed the O-line was getting beat on every single play, up and down the line (including Sitton on several plays, who is by far the best lineman on the team). The Quarless fumble was terrible, but not a shock. The bizarre play by Jennings was shocking to me - just a total freak play. I think with some minimal level of execution of McCarthy's gameplan, the Packers should have scored 20 points or so yesterday, more than enough to win.

 

[sho nuff]

I have no problem with McCarthy's gameplan or his playcalling, but I've given my opinion many times on that topic and won't rehash it here. In short, I don't think the common NFL fan has any basis to judge an NFL coach's playcalling. Packer fans are no different than others, when the team is winning, they are all geniuses. One or two bad losses, and suddenly everyone sucks and should be fired. I'm as guilty of it as anyone.People quickly forget that the Packers didn't convert their first 3rd down until midway through the 3rd qtr. By that time, McCarthy had tried everything, including running (middle and wide), screens and swing passes, rolling the QB, dink/dunk - nothing was working. By midway through the second half, they were on their third LG of the game and it seemed the O-line was getting beat on every single play, up and down the line (including Sitton on several plays, who is by far the best lineman on the team). The Quarless fumble was terrible, but not a shock. The bizarre play by Jennings was shocking to me - just a total freak play. I think with some minimal level of execution of McCarthy's gameplan, the Packers should have scored 20 points or so yesterday, more than enough to win.

I can agree on playcalling complaints to an extent during the game.But as others have said before, in crunch time, he seems to crap the bad often lately (and maybe its not just lately...Im not going to say the whole record in close games is because of bad calls though).But I don't see how anyone can defend the 2 play calls that ended that game.