You are a homer and it is your opinion. Nobody else wouldRight now, I'd take Ben over all of them in a clutch situation.Well Ben showed why he's the best clutch qb in the game but his team let him down today.Brady,Brees,Manning ETC...........................
i missed it. i was too busy jumping on my bed and scaring the crap out of my wife and dogsI feel bad for Reed, he looks torn up.
Please stop. I like Ben but no way.Right now, I'd take Ben over all of them in a clutch situation.Well Ben showed why he's the best clutch qb in the game but his team let him down today.Brady,Brees,Manning ETC...........................
The Steelers gift wrapped that game. Two missed 4th quarter FG's and a dropped TD pass. Nice win anyhow.The Steelers are the better team, but the Bearz were able to stay close throughout the game and dodged a bullet.
You want to talk about gift wrapped....talk about the week 1 game....and the Packers barely won.The Steelers gift wrapped that game. Two missed 4th quarter FG's and a dropped TD pass. Nice win anyhow.The Steelers are the better team, but the Bearz were able to stay close throughout the game and dodged a bullet.
Wouldnt clutch be putting the ball in the end zone?Well Ben showed why he's the best clutch qb in the game but his team let him down today.Brady,Brees,Manning ETC...........................
no, not reallyJeff Reed is terrible..
I don't know how many game winning drives this is guy is going to have to engineer before people start considering him a great clutch qb. Manning is a great qb but I'd hardly call him a great "clutch" qb. Today wasn't a game winning drive but that has nothing to do with Ben.Please stop. I like Ben but no way.Right now, I'd take Ben over all of them in a clutch situation.Well Ben showed why he's the best clutch qb in the game but his team let him down today.Brady,Brees,Manning ETC...........................
45 yarder is something like 75%, a 35 yarder is more like 90%. So no, he's just much worse at math than I am. Plus, his strategy left 21 seconds on the clock.I guess he knows his players better than you.Lovie is a moron, 45 yarder is what you settle for?
Apparently, "clutchness" is driving the team down the field but not close to the endzoneWouldnt clutch be putting the ball in the end zone?Well Ben showed why he's the best clutch qb in the game but his team let him down today.Brady,Brees,Manning ETC...........................
Well, Congrats Bears fans. You earned it. Good game.

Guys, guys. Can we give this debate a rest? Let's get back to what is really important...how the Bears are the best team in the league right now.I don't know how many game winning drives this is guy is going to have to engineer before people start considering him a great clutch qb. Manning is a great qb but I'd hardly call him a great "clutch" qb. Today wasn't a game winning drive but that has nothing to do with Ben.Please stop. I like Ben but no way.Right now, I'd take Ben over all of them in a clutch situation.Well Ben showed why he's the best clutch qb in the game but his team let him down today.Brady,Brees,Manning ETC...........................
When he can win ith a crappy D then he will get his dueI don't know how many game winning drives this is guy is going to have to engineer before people start considering him a great clutch qb. Manning is a great qb but I'd hardly call him a great "clutch" qb. Today wasn't a game winning drive but that has nothing to do with Ben.Please stop. I like Ben but no way.Right now, I'd take Ben over all of them in a clutch situation.Well Ben showed why he's the best clutch qb in the game but his team let him down today.Brady,Brees,Manning ETC...........................
This.Congrats Bears fans. Good win for your guys.The Steelers gift wrapped that game. Two missed 4th quarter FG's and a dropped TD pass. Nice win anyhow.
Imagine what it would be like if Urlacher wasn't out? Undefeated for the rest of the year? 12 or 3 shutouts? :shudder:Agreed. The season is pretty much set at this point. Bears are the best team in the league
Just 1 mini Ditka and a Super Bowl victory would be assured.Imagine what it would be like if Urlacher wasn't out? Undefeated for the rest of the year? 12 or 3 shutouts? :shudder:Agreed. The season is pretty much set at this point. Bears are the best team in the league
at leastImagine what it would be like if Urlacher wasn't out? Undefeated for the rest of the year? 12 or 3 shutouts? :shudder:Agreed. The season is pretty much set at this point. Bears are the best team in the league
Na, the Packers beat you guys and the Bungles beat them, so let's all bow down to Cincy!Since the Steelers are the defending SB champs this pretty much means the Bears are the best team in the league right now.

If I was starting a team from scratch Gould would be my #1 pick. I'd take Rothelisberger about the 24th round.Gould is the most clutch player in the league
This.Congrats Bears fans. Good win for your guys.The Steelers gift wrapped that game. Two missed 4th quarter FG's and a dropped TD pass. Nice win anyhow.
gg Bears... they made the plays when they had to... Steelers missed too many opportunities.This is where we are in disagreement. He's easily 23rd round material, maybe higher if he shows he can win a game in the end against a good defense, while having a ####ty defense of his ownIf I was starting a team from scratch Gould would be my #1 pick. I'd take Rothelisberger about the 24th round.Gould is the most clutch player in the league
thanks. biggest win we've had in a while. that's a testament to the Steelers.This.Congrats Bears fans. Good win for your guys.The Steelers gift wrapped that game. Two missed 4th quarter FG's and a dropped TD pass. Nice win anyhow.gg Bears... they made the plays when they had to... Steelers missed too many opportunities.

OK, I'll give you that one.This is where we are in disagreement. He's easily 23rd round material, maybe higher if he shows he can win a game in the end against a good defense, while having a ####ty defense of his ownIf I was starting a team from scratch Gould would be my #1 pick. I'd take Rothelisberger about the 24th round.Gould is the most clutch player in the league
You're right......putting the ball in the hands of your wr in the endzone does not qualify as clutch if the guy drops the ball. Anyways, congrats on the win Bears fans. It was a great game.Apparently, "clutchness" is driving the team down the field but not close to the endzoneWouldnt clutch be putting the ball in the end zone?Well Ben showed why he's the best clutch qb in the game but his team let him down today.Brady,Brees,Manning ETC...........................
chill. Roth is the man. Just saying I wouldn't take him over Brady. Very few would. :(You're right......putting the ball in the hands of your wr in the endzone does not qualify as clutch if the guy drops the ball. Anyways, congrats on the win Bears fans. It was a great game.Apparently, "clutchness" is driving the team down the field but not close to the endzoneWouldnt clutch be putting the ball in the end zone?Well Ben showed why he's the best clutch qb in the game but his team let him down today.Brady,Brees,Manning ETC...........................
:( gg Bears fans - I still hate CutlerThis.Congrats Bears fans. Good win for your guys.The Steelers gift wrapped that game. Two missed 4th quarter FG's and a dropped TD pass. Nice win anyhow.gg Bears... they made the plays when they had to... Steelers missed too many opportunities.
that's cool. i still hate farver:( gg Bears fans - I still hate CutlerThis.Congrats Bears fans. Good win for your guys.The Steelers gift wrapped that game. Two missed 4th quarter FG's and a dropped TD pass. Nice win anyhow.gg Bears... they made the plays when they had to... Steelers missed too many opportunities.
THIS week. Last week they were the WORST team. Do the math: they are an average team and at 1-1 sitting behind the best team in the division: the Vikings.Since the Steelers are the defending SB champs this pretty much means the Bears are the best team in the league right now.
I'm not sure what the math is here.THIS week. Last week they were the WORST team. Do the math: they are an average team and at 1-1 sitting behind the best team in the division: the Vikings.Since the Steelers are the defending SB champs this pretty much means the Bears are the best team in the league right now.
Why?This.Congrats Bears fans. Good win for your guys.The Steelers gift wrapped that game. Two missed 4th quarter FG's and a dropped TD pass. Nice win anyhow.gg Bears... they made the plays when they had to... Steelers missed too many opportunities.
gg Bears fans - I still hate Cutler
It's called 1 game back.I'm not sure what the math is here.THIS week. Last week they were the WORST team. Do the math: they are an average team and at 1-1 sitting behind the best team in the division: the Vikings.Since the Steelers are the defending SB champs this pretty much means the Bears are the best team in the league right now.
All a qb can do is make the throws. It is up to the receivers to make the catch. Ben threw a perfect pass to Holmes for the TD, but he dropped it.Wouldnt clutch be putting the ball in the end zone?Well Ben showed why he's the best clutch qb in the game but his team let him down today.Brady,Brees,Manning ETC...........................
Not in Brady's world (see important game winners by Adam Vinateri)dparker713 said:Wouldnt clutch be putting the ball in the end zone?Comer said:fred_1_15301 said:Well Ben showed why he's the best clutch qb in the game but his team let him down today.Brady,Brees,Manning ETC...........................
Forte knows math. This isn't mathaz_prof said:THIS week. Last week they were the WORST team. Do the math: they are an average team and at 1-1 sitting behind the best team in the division: the Vikings.ForteWillLeadTheWay said:Since the Steelers are the defending SB champs this pretty much means the Bears are the best team in the league right now.
The Broncos beat the Bengals...chook said:Na, the Packers beat you guys and the Bungles beat them, so let's all bow down to Cincy!ForteWillLeadTheWay said:Since the Steelers are the defending SB champs this pretty much means the Bears are the best team in the league right now.![]()

Hard to run on Pittsburgh.But give Cutler and receivers some more time to gel and start scaring some defenses. Lanes will openI'm still concerned about the running game. Why the hell aren't they running the ball more? Giving to Cutler to throw 35-40 times a game isn't going to cut it. How is this not obvious? If teams continue to make Cutler beat them and he does, the running game will have to open up...right?