Game Thread W2 - San Diego v New England (1 Viewer)

[shakeybarn]

Tomlinson = bust

68 rushing yards in two games. I'd have to agree. It will be a long year for LT owners.

LJ = bust thenSJax = bust then

 

[Buckna]

Sammy Morris TD! In at the goalline package.

Maroney is definitely going to be a bust this year.

 

[BigRed]

Thanks for the info guys...I do disagree with the idea that this is "over" and we should just move on...If more illegal stuff was done, the league should investigate and the Pats should be penalized further if found guilty...And for those saying this is "sour grapes" on the part of Mangini, do you think Belichick would hesitate to purue this to the ends of the earth if the situation was reversed?

nice to have Ms Kramer here.

 

[cascaa]

maroney owner here

bellad*ick

 

[1huskerfan]

The tapping into radio frequencies rumor is resurfacing. The report is that the Jets are pursuing these charges with the League office. The Pats got WHACKED. Pretty hard. The Jets need to accept their ### kicking and move on.

How else are they going to stay in the spot light? If you think it's bad now, wait a couple more weeks when they are out of playoff contention.

You really think this is because Mangini wants national attention?

You really think he keeps his job going 0-16?

 

[Godfather of Soul]

Great Maroney takes them down the field so Sammy Morris can get a TD, argh.

It's official, if it wasn't already. This is a RBBC. Morris had what, 3 series all to himself? Plus goal line. Oh, and faulk in on almost every 3rd down. Glad Maroney's my keeper. (ibt ptts)

 

[gman8343]

What do you think the odds are that Maroney will score his first TD of the season on this drive?

lol

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

Tomlinson = bust

68 rushing yards in two games. I'd have to agree. It will be a long year for LT owners.

Please tell me there's sarcasm, or shtick, or something else here that I'm missing.

 

[shakeybarn]

The tapping into radio frequencies rumor is resurfacing. The report is that the Jets are pursuing these charges with the League office. The Pats got WHACKED. Pretty hard. The Jets need to accept their ### kicking and move on.

why?

Because it seems petty at this stage for the Jets to pursue this further. The Pats got whacked a first round pick. The issue has been dealt with.

The issue of taping was dealt with.Radio frequencies = new crime.

The charge wasn't that they "cheated", the charge was on recording... this is unrelated.

 

[OC Zed]

interesting that Mangini and the Jets are bringing all these issues to the table. presumably Mangini knew about them when he was with the Pats... guess this is his revenge for being spurned by Belichick.

Missed this latest "report," cliff's notes?

It's getting embarrassing now. If nothing comes of this and the Jets finish say 5-11, he can kiss his future in the NFL good bye. I believe there a certain level of "keep your ####### mouth shut" amongst coaches in the NFL. This cat didn't get the memo.

It's OK to let your opponent cheat against you?

 

[BoltBacker]

Pats offensive line is Legit.

Well said. The SD DB's will get all the blame but NE front seven just owned SD for too many stretches in this game. Brady is playing at such a high level right now it's hard not to enjoy watching him even when he's tearing apart your favorite team. He's brilliant at the moment. NE was so close to winning the SB last year I don't see anybody touching them unless Brady gets hurt at some point. Good luck next week BUF. Can't wait to see what that point spread is.

 

[Chaos Commish]

interesting that Mangini and the Jets are bringing all these issues to the table. presumably Mangini knew about them when he was with the Pats... guess this is his revenge for being spurned by Belichick.

I love it. I hope the press is as relentless with this as they were with TO. I hope the investigations are thorough and I hope more dirt turns up on the Pats. It's entertaining. More cheating and bigger penalties would be cool.

The truth would be good, but having it turn out bad isn't necessarily "cool".

To each his own. I am entertained by it all and Bill flat lying to Roger last week and getting busted for other technical philandering would be very entertaining... and cool... to me. I would get a good laugh out of these new suspiciouns being validated. Unlike both the haters and lovers, I am not at all emotionally involved in any outcome, so it's a kick to watch unfold.

 

[shakeybarn]

Back to fantasy.. I need about 20 yards from LT/Turner...

 

[urbanhack]

Ouch that has to sting Maroney owners.

Not if he's on the benchand chris brown is starting instead...oh wait...

 

[BigRed]

Please tell me there's sarcasm, or shtick, or something else here that I'm missing.

I think you were missing a weak attempt at a joke. Not as weak as droning on and on about "Patriot-gate" but up there.Game over

 

[#1DetroitFan]

What do you think the odds are that Maroney will score his first TD of the season on this drive?

See a ton of ppl benched Maroney this week... odd for an oft first-round pick.

I do not think it is strange if the guy is a bust. Right now Maroney is not even close to achieving his ADP (1st round). Why not bench the guy and play your better options? Myself I have Lamont Jordan and Cadillac Williams. Either one of them has more points than Maroney this week.

 

[shakeybarn]

Pats offensive line is Legit.

Well said. The SD DB's will get all the blame but NE front seven just owned SD for too many stretches in this game. Brady is playing at such a high level right now it's hard not to enjoy watching him even when he's tearing apart your favorite team. He's brilliant at the moment. NE was so close to winning the SB last year I don't see anybody touching them unless Brady gets hurt at some point. Good luck next week BUF. Can't wait to see what that point spread is.

Last I checked the Colts ... nevermind

 

[phillyphan07]

does anyone else consider going for it on 4th running up the score at this point? Just kick the FG....

 

[Tremendous Upside]

The tapping into radio frequencies rumor is resurfacing. The report is that the Jets are pursuing these charges with the League office. The Pats got WHACKED. Pretty hard. The Jets need to accept their ### kicking and move on.

why?

Because it seems petty at this stage for the Jets to pursue this further. The Pats got whacked a first round pick. The issue has been dealt with.

So it seems petty to continue to pursue possible cheating and clear violations of league rules?What does it seem to commit those infractions?

 

[fflnut]

Ah, feel the Boston love. Please focus some of this on the Sox, they're 2 outs away from being beaten by the Yankees.

 

[mr. furley]

The tapping into radio frequencies rumor is resurfacing. The report is that the Jets are pursuing these charges with the League office. The Pats got WHACKED. Pretty hard. The Jets need to accept their ### kicking and move on.

why?

Because it seems petty at this stage for the Jets to pursue this further. The Pats got whacked a first round pick. The issue has been dealt with.

not really. if the Pats were only videotaping then the entire issue would have been exposed.if they also mic'd d linemen to steal audibles and play calls then that needs to be dealt with as well.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

interesting that Mangini and the Jets are bringing all these issues to the table. presumably Mangini knew about them when he was with the Pats... guess this is his revenge for being spurned by Belichick.

Missed this latest "report," cliff's notes?

It's getting embarrassing now. If nothing comes of this and the Jets finish say 5-11, he can kiss his future in the NFL good bye. I believe there a certain level of "keep your ####### mouth shut" amongst coaches in the NFL. This cat didn't get the memo.

It's OK to let your opponent cheat against you?

This is what I don't get...Mangini would be doing his team and organization a giant dsservice if he didn't report this stuff to the league, IMO...Again, I ask, do you think belichick would just "let it go?"

 

[helix]

Why is LT still in? Seems like a huge risk-

 

[redman]

Oh stop with the LT garbage yards!

 

[1huskerfan]

The tapping into radio frequencies rumor is resurfacing. The report is that the Jets are pursuing these charges with the League office. The Pats got WHACKED. Pretty hard. The Jets need to accept their ### kicking and move on.

How else are they going to stay in the spot light? If you think it's bad now, wait a couple more weeks when they are out of playoff contention.

huh?you better start making sense in this thread or i'm going to ask the mods to remove you.

 

[EdwardCat]

Why is LT still in? Seems like a huge risk-

Because they are embarrassed at how little they've used him and need to show they are committed.

 

[Pat Patriot]

interesting that Mangini and the Jets are bringing all these issues to the table. presumably Mangini knew about them when he was with the Pats... guess this is his revenge for being spurned by Belichick.

Missed this latest "report," cliff's notes?

It's getting embarrassing now. If nothing comes of this and the Jets finish say 5-11, he can kiss his future in the NFL good bye. I believe there a certain level of "keep your ####### mouth shut" amongst coaches in the NFL. This cat didn't get the memo.

You are flat wrong here, IMO...First off, even if the Jets go 0-16 this year, mangini is in ZERo danger of losing his job...I am amazed that he is getting blowback for basically reporting how another team is cheating...

TU, I think the blowback he is getting (and it is not just in NE. I live in Philly and Philly talk was crucifying him) is because he was part of the "cheating machine" and now he is the one blowing the whistle.Philly radio even reported that his title in NE before becoming DC was Secondary Coach and Coach in charge of Advanced Scouting and Videotaping. Many have speculated that the reason he was able to blow the whistle is because he was a big part of it while in NE. Just a bit disengenuous.

 

[shakeybarn]

Why

would

you

punt?

 

[Serenity Now]

Ah, feel the Boston love. Please focus some of this on the Sox, they're 2 outs away from being beaten by the Yankees.

I think this might have been the best game of the series for the Sox/Yankees and I doubt all that many people have been watching, compared to usual.

 

[The Kansas Comet]

So why is Tomlinson in there at this point in the game? I know the Chargers want to keep putting up a good fight, but they should be using some common sense at this point in the game.

 

[To commish is my wish]

Oh stop with the LT garbage yards!

That's one of the greatest advantages LT owners have. He's ALWAYS out there in garbage time. They got Brees killed that way a couple years ago.

 

[bostonfred]

does anyone else consider going for it on 4th running up the score at this point? Just kick the FG....

This is a statement game.

 

[urbanhack]

LOL at the "installment or lump sum" question.

 

[OC Zed]

interesting that Mangini and the Jets are bringing all these issues to the table. presumably Mangini knew about them when he was with the Pats... guess this is his revenge for being spurned by Belichick.

Missed this latest "report," cliff's notes?

It's getting embarrassing now. If nothing comes of this and the Jets finish say 5-11, he can kiss his future in the NFL good bye. I believe there a certain level of "keep your ####### mouth shut" amongst coaches in the NFL. This cat didn't get the memo.

It's OK to let your opponent cheat against you?

This is what I don't get...Mangini would be doing his team and organization a giant dsservice if he didn't report this stuff to the league, IMO...

Again, I ask, do you think belichick would just "let it go?"

The thing I don't understand is why Mangini didn't report this last year. If Bellicheck was brazen enough to pull this stuff in the season opener on the road, it's not hard to imagine he was trying to do it last season too.

 

[Statcruncher]

Whywouldyoupunt?

I showed up to post the same thing. Let's see, 4th and 4 with 3 minutes left and you're down by 24 points. Yeah, lets punt since our D has been shutting down the Pats all day long. These are the asinine kind of coaches calls that hack me off. Trust me, a 24 point loss is no better than a 31 point loss.

 

[mad sweeney]

The tapping into radio frequencies rumor is resurfacing. The report is that the Jets are pursuing these charges with the League office. The Pats got WHACKED. Pretty hard. The Jets need to accept their ### kicking and move on.

why?

Because it seems petty at this stage for the Jets to pursue this further. The Pats got whacked a first round pick. The issue has been dealt with.

The issue of taping was dealt with.Radio frequencies = new crime.

The charge wasn't that they "cheated", the charge was on recording... this is unrelated.

The RF deal was a part of the original complaint but got glossed over in the wake of the videotaping. And when Goodell announced the punishments he said he was still investigating the issue with the Pats. Bellicheat and Pats fans are the only ones saying it's over, Goodell has been investigating this even after he announced the punishment. And since he is now demanding more evidence from them, threatening severe punishment if they don't comply, I would say this is far from over.

 

[OC Zed]

Sammy Morris is just bruising the Chargers right now.

Think about that.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

interesting that Mangini and the Jets are bringing all these issues to the table. presumably Mangini knew about them when he was with the Pats... guess this is his revenge for being spurned by Belichick.

Missed this latest "report," cliff's notes?

It's getting embarrassing now. If nothing comes of this and the Jets finish say 5-11, he can kiss his future in the NFL good bye. I believe there a certain level of "keep your ####### mouth shut" amongst coaches in the NFL. This cat didn't get the memo.

It's OK to let your opponent cheat against you?

This is what I don't get...Mangini would be doing his team and organization a giant dsservice if he didn't report this stuff to the league, IMO...

Again, I ask, do you think belichick would just "let it go?"

The thing I don't understand is why Mangini didn't report this last year. If Bellicheck was brazen enough to pull this stuff in the season opener on the road, it's not hard to imagine he was trying to do it last season too.

Maybe they couldn't get the evidence, for whatever reason...

 

[1huskerfan]

Whywouldyoupunt?

I showed up to post the same thing. Let's see, 4th and 4 with 3 minutes left and you're down by 24 points. Yeah, lets punt since our D has been shutting down the Pats all day long. These are the asinine kind of coaches calls that hack me off. Trust me, a 24 point loss is no better than a 31 point loss.

It is if a tie breaker comes down to net touchdowns.

 

[phillyphan07]

interesting that Mangini and the Jets are bringing all these issues to the table. presumably Mangini knew about them when he was with the Pats... guess this is his revenge for being spurned by Belichick.

Missed this latest "report," cliff's notes?

It's getting embarrassing now. If nothing comes of this and the Jets finish say 5-11, he can kiss his future in the NFL good bye. I believe there a certain level of "keep your ####### mouth shut" amongst coaches in the NFL. This cat didn't get the memo.

It's OK to let your opponent cheat against you?

The pats were WARNED to stop... where do you think that warning came from? Obviously coaches told the league that they "suspected" the pats were stealing signals and just wanted them to stop. I don't think they were looking for a punishment. If they knew the pats were stealing signals they could just change the signals, and I really dont think it provides that much of a competetive advantage.... the pats were warned, they were doing it in plain view on the damn sideline. I think they got off easy...

 

[bostonfred]

interesting that Mangini and the Jets are bringing all these issues to the table. presumably Mangini knew about them when he was with the Pats... guess this is his revenge for being spurned by Belichick.

Missed this latest "report," cliff's notes?

It's getting embarrassing now. If nothing comes of this and the Jets finish say 5-11, he can kiss his future in the NFL good bye. I believe there a certain level of "keep your ####### mouth shut" amongst coaches in the NFL. This cat didn't get the memo.

It's OK to let your opponent cheat against you?

This is what I don't get...Mangini would be doing his team and organization a giant dsservice if he didn't report this stuff to the league, IMO...

Again, I ask, do you think belichick would just "let it go?"

The thing I don't understand is why Mangini didn't report this last year. If Bellicheck was brazen enough to pull this stuff in the season opener on the road, it's not hard to imagine he was trying to do it last season too.

Maybe they couldn't get the evidence, for whatever reason...

Or Mangini wanted to wait until he was a year further removed from it.

 

[urbanhack]

LOL at Bellichek trying to give a hug.

 

[mad sweeney]

How much you wanna bet Belicheat's new contract more than makes up for the 500K fine?

 

[Pat Patriot]

The tapping into radio frequencies rumor is resurfacing. The report is that the Jets are pursuing these charges with the League office. The Pats got WHACKED. Pretty hard. The Jets need to accept their ### kicking and move on.

why?

Because it seems petty at this stage for the Jets to pursue this further. The Pats got whacked a first round pick. The issue has been dealt with.

So it seems petty to continue to pursue possible cheating and clear violations of league rules?What does it seem to commit those infractions?

It seems petty coming from Mangini.You get no argument from me that Belichick has embarassed himself and his team. The level of stuff that Belichick appears to have been doing is for someone who is coaching a crappy team and afraid of losing his job. Maybe that guy needs the perceived "edge". As talented as the Patriots are, they shouldnt. Especially not this year.

 

[monkeysee]

Cheaters alwasy prosper.

Big thumbs down to Michaels and Madden giving praise to a cheating P O S.

 

[Statcruncher]

It is if a tie breaker comes down to net touchdowns.

So shouldn't you be trying to score one yourself rather than putting your D out to face a team that has already posted 38 points?

 

[OC Zed]

The tapping into radio frequencies rumor is resurfacing. The report is that the Jets are pursuing these charges with the League office. The Pats got WHACKED. Pretty hard. The Jets need to accept their ### kicking and move on.

why?

Because it seems petty at this stage for the Jets to pursue this further. The Pats got whacked a first round pick. The issue has been dealt with.

So it seems petty to continue to pursue possible cheating and clear violations of league rules?What does it seem to commit those infractions?

It seems petty coming from Mangini.You get no argument from me that Belichick has embarassed himself and his team. The level of stuff that Belichick appears to have been doing is for someone who is coaching a crappy team and afraid of losing his job. Maybe that guy needs the perceived "edge". As talented as the Patriots are, they shouldnt. Especially not this year.

Check out Paul Zimmerman's article on cnnsi.com this week... it's unclear as to what extent Mangini had a say in any of these practices (if the article is 100% accurate).

 

[Pat Patriot]

The tapping into radio frequencies rumor is resurfacing. The report is that the Jets are pursuing these charges with the League office. The Pats got WHACKED. Pretty hard. The Jets need to accept their ### kicking and move on.

why?

Because it seems petty at this stage for the Jets to pursue this further. The Pats got whacked a first round pick. The issue has been dealt with.

The issue of taping was dealt with.Radio frequencies = new crime.

The charge wasn't that they "cheated", the charge was on recording... this is unrelated.

The RF deal was a part of the original complaint but got glossed over in the wake of the videotaping. And when Goodell announced the punishments he said he was still investigating the issue with the Pats. Bellicheat and Pats fans are the only ones saying it's over, Goodell has been investigating this even after he announced the punishment. And since he is now demanding more evidence from them, threatening severe punishment if they don't comply, I would say this is far from over.

The demanding of more evidence is in reference to any NOTES associated with the illegal taping now or in the past.

 

[shakeybarn]

Sorry.. but all the "big" games have been duds for the casual fan

Indy/NO - blowout

SD/Chi - bad football

Cin/Bal - bad football

etc...

 

[1huskerfan]

It is if a tie breaker comes down to net touchdowns.

So shouldn't you be trying to score one yourself rather than putting your D out to face a team that has already posted 38 points?

Not from your own 30.