camperguy01
Footballguy
Packer fan here.
Congrats Chicago - you deserved the win for sure.
Congrats Chicago - you deserved the win for sure.
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Game Thread W3 - Green Bay V Chicago (1 Viewer)
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Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
On a side note Colin Cowhered said a few weeks back that the westrbrook play was the difference in the final score in a 1 million dollar purse FFL. Can you imagine being the loser there?
????? how by commiting fewer penalties.....great job Bears. Bears didnt earn the win but the Pack most definitley earned the loss
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
Cowherd actually had a nice rant on this topic earlier today (regarding pete carroll). I think it's prolly threadworthy.
CutlerToCutler
Footballguy
Then it's definitely not threadworthy
destro
Footballguy
You can't act like all of those penalties were just incidental and had no impact on the Bears play. They are penalties for a reason; they impact the play of your opponent in a way that breaks the rules of the game. Who's to say if the Packers don't commit those penalties that it would be any different? If Peppers doesn't get held several times, maybe he just sacks Rodgers? Maybe that late INT isn't picked off if Bennett isn't held. Etc etc... penalties aren't an excuse.
camperguy01
Footballguy
Relax. Just a friendly congrats.They deserved the win because they scored more points.
Kleck
Footballguy
The Bears absolutely earned the win by putting more points on the board.
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
NTTAWWTPackers just got flagged for holding in the showers.
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
The most baffling one was the Jimmy Superfly Snooka piledriver on that last drive. REALLY? You what made you think that was a good idea.
GOB
Footballguy
I do not care what any Packer fan says, Brandon Jackson is simply not the answer at RB. Kuhn is not the answer either. They have to give somebody else a shot. I am not saying they should go out and trade for a high priced RB, but they need to do something.
I would not fault them for trading a 2nd round pick for a formidable RB. Where that is going to come from, I really do not know. I am not even going to act like I know where or how they will get a RB but they must do something. I will leave that to somebody much smarter than I.
Packers moved the ball pretty well tonight outside of some bad penalties, but when they got into the red zone, specifically running situations, I never once thought they would run the ball. I understand that the Tampa 2 allows yards but is very difficult in the redzone, but when there is zero threat of running the ball it becomes a stacked deck against the offense.
Nobody else pointed it out I do not think, but McCarthy deserves a ton of criticism for not giving the aging Tackles any help on Julius Peppers all night. That is an embarrassing mistake. He will get a ton of blame for not letting CHI score at the end, and that blame is justified but his playcalling was the most glaring mistake to me.
Overall, fantastic win for CHI. Both of these teams have a lot of holes to shore up before they start thinking they can compete with N.O.
I would not fault them for trading a 2nd round pick for a formidable RB. Where that is going to come from, I really do not know. I am not even going to act like I know where or how they will get a RB but they must do something. I will leave that to somebody much smarter than I.
Packers moved the ball pretty well tonight outside of some bad penalties, but when they got into the red zone, specifically running situations, I never once thought they would run the ball. I understand that the Tampa 2 allows yards but is very difficult in the redzone, but when there is zero threat of running the ball it becomes a stacked deck against the offense.
Nobody else pointed it out I do not think, but McCarthy deserves a ton of criticism for not giving the aging Tackles any help on Julius Peppers all night. That is an embarrassing mistake. He will get a ton of blame for not letting CHI score at the end, and that blame is justified but his playcalling was the most glaring mistake to me.
Overall, fantastic win for CHI. Both of these teams have a lot of holes to shore up before they start thinking they can compete with N.O.
Well that is the criteria for winning!!
nlgb1
Footballguy
the lack of anger in the voice of mccarthy in that press conference makes me wanna puke. his frustration should be TWICE mine, and im not seeing it. the team needs to be accountable for this crap performance, and judging by mccarthy at the podium, that might not happen. that combined with the clock management fiasco, i lost a lot of respect for mccarthy tonight
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a: he didnt hear the whistle and2: he wanted to break a record, any record
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
Not just the rant, but was an interesting discussion of the role of coaches, time management, play calling etc.
Certainly more threadworthy than 80% of he veiled WDIS phantom trades that will never happen out there.
Football Jones
Footballguy
Look for Nance to get more & more involved. I have to think he doesn't know the playbook yet. Their lack of interest in bringing in other RBs in tells me they like Nance when he gets up to speed.
Not sure about Starks, but he's no lock to return this season according to reports. The Pack can't be relying on him. I like Nance's chances unless they go out & get somebody.
Not sure about Starks, but he's no lock to return this season according to reports. The Pack can't be relying on him. I like Nance's chances unless they go out & get somebody.
nlgb1
Footballguy
youre going to be very disappointed
Football Jones
Footballguy
Jackson & Kuhn aren't cutting it. I guess they could stand pat, but I don't think so. We'll have to see if they make a move, but if not, I like Nance's chances.
Pipes
Footballguy
Because he had the ball in the wrong arm. If he's holding that ball in his outside arm it goes out of bounds if he fumbles it. On a side not McCarthy is a huge idiot for that challenge. Congrats on the victory Bears' fans.
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nlgb1
Footballguy
why? for the sake of making a change? dont think so. if they thought much of nance, he at least would have played a snap. theres been nothing positive from this guy, except for some b/s coach speak. all this optimism on nance is really confusing me.
Larry Buckles
Footballguy
hahahahhahaha packers suck. BEARS
hugebearsfansinceforever
Footballguy
Pretty sure it was the ghost of George Blanda on the sidelines keeping the ball in bounds and sticking it to the Pack one more time.
hugebearsfansinceforever
Footballguy
I wonder what is meant by "go crazy" or "attack". Are we talking he threw his helmet at the "fan"? Jumped into the stands himself ala Ron Artest?
Frustrating game for me as a Packer fan as the Packers clearly could move the ball on the Bears and stop the Bears. The thing is football is mental as well as physical, it is execution (clich` but true). The Bears executed when they had too. The Packers, they did not, their penalties and special teams play gave the Bears very short fields all night while the Packers had very long fields. The result, the more disciplined team on the night won. Predictable but very frustrating.
DoubleG
Footballguy
Honestly though, part of that is exactly because they were ineffective running the ball. In the 2nd half, when it was clear the Packers weren't going to run much (or if they did, it was going to be for a minimal gain) Peppers pretty much pinned his ears back and was coming. The other disadvantage is that your O-line also knows they have to pass block pretty much constantly - that in part leads to the flase starts (I'd love to know a stat on how many O-lineman false start on run plays vs. pass plays - I'd guess the pass play % would be much higher). All of that is magnified when you play on the road. In some ways, I think the Bears have the same issue (lack of a run game) - I mean, in the 4th quarter trying to run cloack and the Bears idea of a run is an end around. Both teams need to run more and do it more effectively (but the more will lead to the more effectively).
smackdaddies
Footballguy
Teams are winners when
they score to end the half
they force turnovers on crucial drives
the score to end the game
That was the Bears last night. What ever you want to say about the Packers performance, the Bears won the game by doing it when it counted
they score to end the half
they force turnovers on crucial drives
the score to end the game
That was the Bears last night. What ever you want to say about the Packers performance, the Bears won the game by doing it when it counted
Yeah, well,.... had things been different then things would have been different, so there!
sho nuff
Footballguy
Either arm...running the way he was, the way it was hit...id say 8 times out of 10 that ball bounces OB.And yes McCarthy is an idiot (or whoever told him from upstairs it was close enough to look at was an idiot).
Just a terrible way to lose.
Defense actually played pretty well as did Rodgers and the receivers.
Oline did ok...took penalties which I hate, but better than seeing Rodgers get killed all night (I kept yelling against the Vikings last year to at least hold someone rather than just let them take free shots at your QB). But no holes open in the run game no matter who would have been back there.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Was the ghost of Blanda also who kept Cutler throwing it to the Packers? (only to be bailed out by idiotic decisions/penalties by Green Bay)Pretty sure it was the ghost of George Blanda on the sidelines keeping the ball in bounds and sticking it to the Pack one more time.
DoubleG
Footballguy
No - that would be the Bears phenomenal offensive line. And by "phenomenal" I mean :(Was the ghost of Blanda also who kept Cutler throwing it to the Packers? (only to be bailed out by idiotic decisions/penalties by Green Bay)Pretty sure it was the ghost of George Blanda on the sidelines keeping the ball in bounds and sticking it to the Pack one more time.
Just for the record, Jay Cutler right now has a better QB rating than the following QBs:
Brady, Brees, Rivers, Schaub, Romo, Rodgers and others. In fact, of QBs that have at least 10 attempts, he's 3rd in the league in passer rating behind P. Manning and Vick. That was odd to type.
benson_will_lead_the_way
Footballguy
Pretty sure "mooning" team buses is classy as well.
Deranged Hermit
Not cool & Pissed
To be fair, one of those INT's was a direct result of the WR (Bennett, I think) being mauled as the ball was in the air.
pantagrapher
Footballguy
It was amazing that ball stayed in bounds.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
I just laugh at those saying that Cutler was bailed out on that INT he threw late that was nullified by the pass interference when it is clearly obvious that the ball never would have been picked off had the Bears receiver not been held. I guess the Cutler bashers have to cling to something.
benson_will_lead_the_way
Footballguy
While the other....the Helmet in the the face of Cutler obviously affected the throw to be a little short...hence the INT.
nlgb1
Footballguy
well he threw into double coverage, and the reason the interference happened was because the ball was severely underthrown and Burnett impeded the receivers ability to come back to the ball. with that said, good chance the receiver coulda played DB and knocked it down, but throwing into tight coverage like that, it very easily couldve been picked off anyway. regardless, not a good play by the rookie SS. nothing good ever happens when youre playing with your back to the ball
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DesmondBishop
Footballguy
We played a very dumb game, Aaron looked awesome the Bears really could not stop us, but since we did that ourselves they didn't have to. Loved seeing Aaron take exactly what he was given, really only tossed a couple deep balls, the rest was short and medium which he throws with deadly accuracy. 18 Penalties... as someone else pointed out 2 that stopped picks and one that stopped a TD. It is a tough division loss, hopefully we play smarter next week vs The Lions, who look like a much improved team. Regarding the running game long term, I definitely think we need to bring in someone else, it will be hard to close out games with no threat of a running game, just like that 4th down dropped TD for the Bears, if they had a good running game that would never have come into play. Jackson is a good receiver out of the backfield but does not scare anyone running the ball and neither does Kuhn. We will probably give Nance a chance, but I really don't have a lot of faith that he is going to be any good.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Helmet hit him after he let go of the ball. Not sure how it really affected it.On the other INT, it was a piss poor throw (floating a short fade route). At best for Chicago, Collins only knocks that down if Bennett does not get interfered with.
They were legit calls, (Im not complaining there). Just saying, he was not all that sharp for most of that game and was getting hit a lot.
Da Bears.
sho nuff
Footballguy
That wasn't what was being chanted on the way out of the stadium last night. Just sayin.still suck...Da Bears.
KnowledgeReignsSupreme
Footballguy
Stat line certainly didn't tell the whole story there. He was clearly outplayed by Rodgers and both were under a lot of pressure all night. I came away with a really good impression of Rodgers after the playoffs last year and nothing last night made me change that. Nothing I saw from Cutler last night made me think he isn't going to have 3-4 INT games and completely kill you with his own unforced mistakes in-between other good performances.I really want to like Cutler, but the guy just screams Jeff George to me every time I watch him play.
McJose
Footballguy
Da Bears.
Somebody's kid draw that?That looks like DKeato's artwork.
hugebearsfansinceforever
Footballguy
Wat? He's a ghost. I'm pretty sure his powers are limited to stuff like footsteps, moving items around, voices, slamming doors, etc... and the occasional spectral appearance.Was the ghost of Blanda also who kept Cutler throwing it to the Packers? (only to be bailed out by idiotic decisions/penalties by Green Bay)Pretty sure it was the ghost of George Blanda on the sidelines keeping the ball in bounds and sticking it to the Pack one more time.
