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Game Thread W7 - Seattle V Cleveland (1 Viewer)
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Dez
Footballguy
A little bit of info Seattle could have let us know before 1 PM so I could have got him out of all my line ups.
PizzaDeliveryGuy
extra sausage
Awesome. Glad we got this info.
grrrrrrr
Seriously.
Nick Nasty
Footballguy
They announced it JUST before kickoff...McCoy looks inaccurate
Nick Nasty
Footballguy
Hardesty caught a pass!!
bbuster
Footballguy
I see this news got to the "breaking news" a half hour after the game started.
Time Kibitzer
Footballguy
BS roughing the passer call there imo.
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
You can't plant your helmet in a QBs back. That was as clear a penalty as you'll ever see.
Neofight
Footballguy
He's looking like a plodder today. Heavy legs and low turnover.
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
Best drive of the game ends in a blocked FG by Red Bryant.
We could be headed to a 3-0 final here.
We could be headed to a 3-0 final here.
mad sweeney
Footballguy
If by "plant" you mean graze his back with the helmet that's attached near the shoulder pads, then sure. It was an arm tackled because Chancellor went so much to the side when making the hit. Ridiculous call/rule. No way to avoid helmet contact like that.eta: "as clear a penalty as you'll ever see" =
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Neofight
Footballguy
Did he plant the helmet in his back, or did it glance off? This is a contact sport.
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
That play gets called 100% of the time. If you don't like the rules that's fine, but the call was correct.If by "plant" you mean graze his back with the helmet that's attached near the shoulder pads, then sure. It was an arm tackled because Chancellor went so much to the side when making the hit. Ridiculous call/rule. No way to avoid helmet contact like that.eta: "as clear a penalty as you'll ever see" =
Courtjester
The Town Drunk
I agree. You go high, you get a penalty for blow to the head. You go low you get a penalty for going at QB's knees. Where else are you supposed to hit them?If by "plant" you mean graze his back with the helmet that's attached near the shoulder pads, then sure. It was an arm tackled because Chancellor went so much to the side when making the hit. Ridiculous call/rule. No way to avoid helmet contact like that.eta: "as clear a penalty as you'll ever see" =
Neofight
Footballguy
100%?That play gets called 100% of the time. If you don't like the rules that's fine, but the call was correct.If by "plant" you mean graze his back with the helmet that's attached near the shoulder pads, then sure. It was an arm tackled because Chancellor went so much to the side when making the hit. Ridiculous call/rule. No way to avoid helmet contact like that.eta: "as clear a penalty as you'll ever see" =
mad sweeney
Footballguy
No it doesn't, no it's not.That play gets called 100% of the time. If you don't like the rules that's fine, but the call was correct.If by "plant" you mean graze his back with the helmet that's attached near the shoulder pads, then sure. It was an arm tackled because Chancellor went so much to the side when making the hit. Ridiculous call/rule. No way to avoid helmet contact like that.eta: "as clear a penalty as you'll ever see" =
mad sweeney
Footballguy
Not a lot of the TJ haters making any noise on the Seahawks Insider chat room. As someone there said, "Charlie is showing why the coaches choose Jackson." Clipboard Jesus sucks.
Krilons Resa
Footballguy
One of the ugliest games ever so far.
Nick Nasty
Footballguy
McCoy doesn't look great either.
NatronIsMean
Footballguy
Is McCoy as bad as the game logs make him sound? I watched the Greg Little plays last week on gamerewind and saw some total ducks leave his hand. Seems to have a weaker arm then Pennington post-shoulder surgeries.
Nick Nasty
Footballguy
He was just targeted at the LOS took it about 7 yards
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
He just caught a short pass on 3rd down.
Nick Nasty
Footballguy
My first game watching him. He looks bad.
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
I don't know about that -- to me, Hardesty looks like he is trying to have quick feet and running hard. Problem is that the Seahawks line and LB corps are quicker and hitting harder. Hardesty looks like he can be hit to the ground pretty quickly by a tenacious run D.Browns on the board first with the FG.
Neofight
Footballguy
He's a tease; sometimes he looks like he might know what he is doing, then it eventually all comes cashing down. TJ isn't great, but he is far more consistent.
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
He's behind a bad line and has a bad WR group to throw to, so it isn't all his fault. His arm is definitely well below NFL average though.
mad sweeney
Footballguy
I can't say what the Browns fans are saying on local boards, but there's a vocal contingent in Seattle's Fandom that constantly bags on Carroll for going with Jackson. I personally don't care, both suck though TJ is a better choice and leader. But both are nothing more than tackling dummies for a young team to get experience around for when they bring in the QB that will define Carroll's regime.
Time Kibitzer
Footballguy
Gotta agree with Mad Sweeney here. His helmet just grazed McCoy and then he arm tackled McCoy. If that play gets called 100% of the time, I've never seen it.That play gets called 100% of the time. If you don't like the rules that's fine, but the call was correct.If by "plant" you mean graze his back with the helmet that's attached near the shoulder pads, then sure. It was an arm tackled because Chancellor went so much to the side when making the hit. Ridiculous call/rule. No way to avoid helmet contact like that.eta: "as clear a penalty as you'll ever see" =
NatronIsMean
Footballguy
Thanks double-N
mad sweeney
Footballguy
Awful duck thrown into doube (nearly triple) coverage by CW and then follows it up with a 3rd down pass behind the line to gain. He's worse than I can remember. At least the FO admitted they made a mistake by getting TJ. Waiting for the Carroll Haters to make that same admission.
Neofight
Footballguy
He may be trying, but he isn't succeeding. He isn't 100% yet but even in school he was hit or miss with his explosiveness. Sometimes he'd lower his pads and burst through a hole, but most of the time he would run upright and with slow feet. You can see this in the highlights of his 2009 campaign, which is really the only season he did much of anything.On top of that he was only a 4.49 at the combine, but he is clearly a step slower than that right now. He looks a half step slower than Hillis so far this season.
Nick Nasty
Footballguy
Ogbonnaya just got a dump off for about 20
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
No one said he was succeeding. Obannaya looked thousands of times better than Hardesty as a catching back in one play given that he a) actually caught the ball and b) turned it into a nice gain.I don't contest your summary of his college and combine work, and appreciate the insight. Also don't deny that Hillis is the better back -- he's been woefully underused even when he was healthy this season. But we're talking here and now in this game, and I don't think I'd categorize Hardestly as plodding. He's simply not finding any success against a very good run D, which I pretty much expected.
mad sweeney
Footballguy
Dude, is Thurmond sporting the high-top fade?!
Oh, and btw Mora, you're right. No one in Seattle wanted or misses you as coach.
Oh, and btw Mora, you're right. No one in Seattle wanted or misses you as coach.
mad sweeney
Footballguy
I don't think Whitehurst has thrown a single decent pass today.
Nick Nasty
Footballguy
Seattle local? I just moved to the area and he was on sone sports talk show a few days ago talking about all of that.
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
Efficient
mad sweeney
Footballguy
Thurmond or Mora or me? I'm not a Seattle local, but Mora just said something on Fox about not being wanted as coach. I think he was being affable, but it's true. I hated the choice the second they announced it during Holmie's last year. He was a Ruskell pick, who as GM, turned a SB caliber team back into an NFCWorst doormat.
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
No yards are meaningless to us Mora.
mad sweeney
Footballguy
Conversely, all Mora's words are meaningless to all.
SacramentoBob
Footballguy
Is this game worth watching? 
SacramentoBob
Footballguy
It's making a comeback.
