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Garcon's Foot (1 Viewer)

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Maybe it's a little early in the week but has anyone seen anything on his foot condition.

Was really wanting to sit Colston this week and start Garcon or Britt but not sure about Garcon

or Britt's condition. Probably give Britt another week before I start thinking about using him.

 
Fred Davis cleared for action, Pierre Garcon unsure about Sunday

Posted by Mike Jones and Mark Maske on September 19, 2012 at 12:43 pm

Washington Redskins tight end Fred Davis has been cleared to continue practicing and playing after he was checked for a possible concussion. But wide receiver

Pierre Garcon doesn’t yet know whether his injured right foot wil heal enough to allow him to play Sunday.

Redskins’ tight end Fred Davis had two catches for 14 yards on Sunday. (John McDonnell/The Washington Post)

Davis suffered a big hit to the head as he tried to make a fourth-quarter catch in Washington’s 31-28 loss to the St. Louis Rams. No call was made on cornerback Janoris Jenkins, but Redskins coach Mike Shanahan said the officials missed an obvious call, and that Davis, who was wobbly when he got up and and briefly left the game, would be checked for concussion symptoms.

Davis said Wednesday that he is fine.

Garcon, meanwhile, suffered a foot injury eight plays into the Redskins’ season opener and missed Sunday’s game against the Rams.

Garcon had been limited in practice last week and tested his foot before Sunday’s game, but the Redskins chose not to play him because there was a risk of him suffering a setback, Shanahan said.

Before Wednesday’s practice, Garcon didn’t give much detail on how he was feeling, but said that his goal remained to play this week against Cincinnati, just as he had hoped to play last week against the Rams.

“That’s the goal every week, is to go,” Garcon said.

 
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Maybe it's a little early in the week but has anyone seen anything on his foot condition.Was really wanting to sit Colston this week and start Garcon or Britt but not sure about Garconor Britt's condition. Probably give Britt another week before I start thinking about using him.
Smelly
 
I'm gonna go ahead and say it...lisfranc. :ph34r:
well, there certainly hasn't been any info yet to suggest that. I understand that due to D-Mac last season, people are going to be quick to throw that term around. The information released has said it's to the ball of his foot which would be different than a lis franc injury.
 
Pierre Garcon (foot) was limited in Wednesday's practice.

It's an upgrade on last Wednesday, where Garcon didn't practice before being "very limited" on Thursday. We'll know more about Garcon's status in the next 48 hours, but it's quite possible he's headed toward a second straight game-time call. Fantasy owners need to have a contingency plan in place.

 
I'm gonna go ahead and say it...lisfranc. :ph34r:
well, there certainly hasn't been any info yet to suggest that. I understand that due to D-Mac last season, people are going to be quick to throw that term around. The information released has said it's to the ball of his foot which would be different than a lis franc injury.
Incorrect.....the injury is the top of the foot...mid-foot to be precise..Suffered when d-back came down on his heal while toe area was planted...Thats Lis Franc territory.
 
I'm gonna go ahead and say it...lisfranc. :ph34r:
well, there certainly hasn't been any info yet to suggest that. I understand that due to D-Mac last season, people are going to be quick to throw that term around. The information released has said it's to the ball of his foot which would be different than a lis franc injury.
Incorrect.....the injury is the top of the foot...mid-foot to be precise..Suffered when d-back came down on his heal while toe area was planted...Thats Lis Franc territory.
So it's a reverse lis franc possibly.
 
For the physios out there... if it was 'The Dreaded' he wouldn't be running around out there, right?
Jacoby Ford - WR - Raiders

Raiders WR/KR Jacoby Ford (foot) conceded Tuesday that his status is "up in the air" for the season opener.

It's not looking good. Ford just resumed jogging on Tuesday after confirming that this injury is to the same spot as the one that sidelined him late last season. The Raiders are expected to continue a cautious approach toward his return. Rod Streater is a good bet to play the slot if Denarius Moore (hamstring) is well enough to start.

Related: Rod Streater

Source: CSN Bay Area Sep 4 - 5:59 PM
Raiders WR/KR Jacoby Ford underwent surgery to repair a Lisfranc injury to his left foot Wednesday.

According to beat writer Vittorio Tafur, it's the same injury Ford suffered last season. It was known Ford had a left foot injury, but the Raiders never announced it was of the dreaded Lisfranc variety. Darren McFadden never returned after suffering a Lisfranc sprain in early October last season, while Matt Schaub was knocked out for the year after suffering a similar injury in November. If Ford returns in 2012, it likely won't be until late November or early December.

Source: Vittorio Tafur on Twitter Sep 12 - 5:14 PM
 
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I'm gonna go ahead and say it...lisfranc.

:ph34r:
well, there certainly hasn't been any info yet to suggest that. I understand that due to D-Mac last season, people are going to be quick to throw that term around. The information released has said it's to the ball of his foot which would be different than a lis franc injury.
Incorrect.....the injury is the top of the foot...mid-foot to be precise..Suffered when d-back came down on his heal while toe area was planted...

Thats Lis Franc territory.
apparently there is conflicting information out there then whether intentional or not.from Shanahan, 5 days ago....

"Head coach Mike Shanahan has said the receiver’s injury is like turf toe “kind of [in] the ball of the foot.” Garçon did not practice at all on Wednesday and hardly did so Thursday, participating only in positional drills. Shanahan termed it an issue of pain tolerance."

 
... Pierre Garcon unsure about Sunday

...

Garcon, meanwhile, suffered a foot injury eight plays into the Redskins’ season opener and missed Sunday’s game against the Rams.

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Shame:

1-10-WAS32 (14:34) (Shotgun) R.Griffin pass short left to P.Garcon to WAS 32 for no gain (C.White). Pass -4, YAC 4

2-10-WAS32 (13:58) ....

1-10-WAS44 (13:25) (Shotgun) R.Griffin pass short left to P.Garcon to NO 44 for 12 yards (R.Harper). Pass -2, YAC 14

1-10-NO44 (12:44) (Shotgun) R.Griffin pass short right to P.Garcon to NO 35 for 9 yards (C.Lofton; C.White).

2-1-NO35 (12:00) (Shotgun) R.Griffin pass short left to A.Robinson to NO 30 for 5 yards (R.Harper). Pass -3, YAC 8

1-10-NO30 (11:23) ...

2-7-NO27 (10:44) ...

3-5-NO25 (10:03) ...

1-10-NO24 (9:17) ....

2-15-NO24 (8:30)....

3-13-NO22 (7:52) ...

1-10-WAS12 (3:41) R.Griffin pass deep left to P.Garcon for 88 yards, TOUCHDOWN [M.Jenkins]. Pass 16, YAC 72

I count 12 plays, but 3 of the first 4 on the first drive and the very first play of the 2nd.

This was shaping up to be a great season.

If it's DLF then this must be revenge for my riding Michael Bush all the way to the championship last year.

 
The term lisfranc injury is a very generic term. Reason is because there is a lisfranc complex in your feet composed of the lisfranc joint and lisfranc ligament. Since the lisfranc complex is interrelated soft and hard tissue the midfoot sprain term is an ambiguous term as is lisfranc injury.

 
The term lisfranc injury is a very generic term. Reason is because there is a lisfranc complex in your feet composed of the lisfranc joint and lisfranc ligament. Since the lisfranc complex is interrelated soft and hard tissue the midfoot sprain term is an ambiguous term as is lisfranc injury.
All lisfranc injuries are dreaded, some may be worse then others but make no mistake, they are highly dreaded by all.
 
I think you guys are reading too much into this (as usual). If this was thought to possibly be a more serious injury than is being stated, why hasn't he been sent for a MRI yet?

 
I'm gonna go ahead and say it...lisfranc. :ph34r:
Like someone else mentioned it's a lot like the McFadden injury, Bradshaws foot, or AJs knee last season...LJs lisfranc, Matt Schaub, Ronnie Brown, etc...each missed time and every week it was a question whether or not the guy would play..and every week you would hear them say one more week..last year was particularly painful with AJ...once you get someone with an injury where you are not hearing a lot of information from the team, you can bet it's serious, lingering, and potentially season ending..I'd probably jump ship with regards to Garçon..
 
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@granthpaulsen: Mike Shanahan on Pierre Garcon's foot: "Hopefully it gets well. He's getting as much treatment as he can and he's working extremely hard."

 
'meyerj31 said:
'Fubared said:
Jennings for me probably out again, now Garcon one more time, insert Mr. Britt.I love weeks like these. :angry:
Yea I'm in the same boat. Except I lost Jennings, Garcon, and Maclin on the same team. Next up, McCluster! :unsure:
Yeah, I don't get it, what is up with all these receivers getting hurt this earlyin the season. I am expecting AJ to be next and probably this weekend.
 
I can't take it anymore.

I'm offering Garcon to every team I can in a trade and then cutting him for Hank.

Yep. Gonnadoit. I got the DMC DLS jitters and I just can't shake it.

***

{By the way every time I see this thread title - "Garcon's Foot" - it reminds me of some bad impressionist painting title.}

 
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Pierre Garcon (foot) was limited in Wednesday's practice.Garcon got in limited practices last Wednesday and Thursday before being listed as doubtful on Friday, so it's not necessarily a step forward. It's still better than the alternative of not practicing, of course. Coach Mike Shanahan was noncommittal on Garcon's status in Monday's presser, and for now owners would be wise to assume he sits for a third straight week. Sep 26 - 3:36 PM

Ugh!! Here we go again. I am still waiting to see Thursday practice reports but this is not making me feel very confident. This guy has been one of the more frustrating players for me to own this year. To see what he was able to do with just 8 snaps in week 1, it killed me to see him miss out on RGIII's deep passes in week 2 that would have been his targets, and the favorable matchup vs. Cincy. At this point, I have no idea when to expect him to see the feild again. Anyone else feeling the pain?

 
Pierre Garcon (foot) was limited in Wednesday's practice.Garcon got in limited practices last Wednesday and Thursday before being listed as doubtful on Friday, so it's not necessarily a step forward. It's still better than the alternative of not practicing, of course. Coach Mike Shanahan was noncommittal on Garcon's status in Monday's presser, and for now owners would be wise to assume he sits for a third straight week. Sep 26 - 3:36 PM

Ugh!! Here we go again. I am still waiting to see Thursday practice reports but this is not making me feel very confident. This guy has been one of the more frustrating players for me to own this year. To see what he was able to do with just 8 snaps in week 1, it killed me to see him miss out on RGIII's deep passes in week 2 that would have been his targets, and the favorable matchup vs. Cincy. At this point, I have no idea when to expect him to see the feild again. Anyone else feeling the pain?
Very much so.... I have him everywhere this year. I know I'd have a slew of additional wins if he had remained healthy. With that offensive scheme for his "X" role he was primed for a monster year. At this point I just hope he gets healthy, even if it means sitting another week or two.

 
I grabbed Hank off of waivers just in case, but agree with the above. Garcon looked great in pre-season and outstanding in the first game where he barely played and still had 4-109 1TD. I would rather have him healthy, but at least it hasn't cost me yet. Bye weeks are coming up and while he wasn't an early pick for most of us, he was looking so good it sucks. I just hope it isn't like McFadden last year. Went through that and it sucked, especially after looking so good as well.

 
I think he sits this week and is back next week. He is running routes, but is still a bit sore. They would rather he come back when he is virtually pain-free and not re-injure the thing being that his main weapon is his speed.

 
Overall, this is looking like a very ugly situation for Garcon's prospects this season. He relies on speed and this appears to be the kind of nagging foot injury that is very easy to aggravate once he starts playing again.

 
Listening to ESPN 980 here in DC. Interviewing Rich Campbell of the Washington Times. He spoke with Garçon who said he was improving. Shanny is also saying he is improving but he has been saying for 2 weeks and that it is a matter of pain tolerance.

Campbell speculates that Shanny will tell Garçon to play since they have lost 2 in a row and that RGIII is getting killed with the option. Again this is speculation so take it for what it's worth.

 
I'm not thinking the worse here, but I believe PG sits out another game. Whether its a bruised foot or a sprained foot, May as well hold onto him at this point. Garcon has alot of upside when healthy.

Target date week 5, patience and you will be rewarded

 
Sorry guys but this all sounds like DMac all over again. There's a pretty extensive post on the rotoworld forums by somebody citing medical charts, etc that was enough to convince me that Garcon's come down with a case of the dreaded... I would try to get any value for him while you can.

 
At this point, even if he does come back next week, does he go back into his role as the X receiver, or do they work him in slowly? What's Shanny's normal procedure with speed guys coming in off foot injuries?

 
Sorry guys but this all sounds like DMac all over again. There's a pretty extensive post on the rotoworld forums by somebody citing medical charts, etc that was enough to convince me that Garcon's come down with a case of the dreaded... I would try to get any value for him while you can.
His value is about zero, reading this board and rotoworld's board everyone seems to believe he has suffered a lisfranc injury except very few hopeful owners. I just don't understand why if it is a lisfranc injury the team don't shut there $45m player like it was previously asked. Instead, garçon is running, practicing and running route trees in practice... Makes no sense. But who knows..
 
Sorry guys but this all sounds like DMac all over again. There's a pretty extensive post on the rotoworld forums by somebody citing medical charts, etc that was enough to convince me that Garcon's come down with a case of the dreaded... I would try to get any value for him while you can.
His value is about zero, reading this board and rotoworld's board everyone seems to believe he has suffered a lisfranc injury except very few hopeful owners. I just don't understand why if it is a lisfranc injury the team don't shut there $45m player like it was previously asked. Instead, garçon is running, practicing and running route trees in practice... Makes no sense. But who knows..
My understanding is that an injury in the Lisfranc area can either be either a dislocation or a sprain. The dislocation is usually immediately diagnosed, and requires surgery or at least a cast (this I believe is what Schaub had). The mid-foot sprain (which incidentally could be described as "like turf toe but not in the toe"), is not so easily diagnosed, and can sometimes get better relatively quickly, but also can get worse, leading to a situation where the damaged ligament has to be surgically repaired. If Garcon had the latter type of Lisfranc injury, then the team's actions make sense.
 

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