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Girlfriend Email scammed - 10K - action steps? (1 Viewer)

Hate to say it but, since she voluntarily sent the money, I don't think the bank is going to do much of anything. Her account wasn't hacked and the money illegally moved. She voluntarily sent it out of stupidity. The bank has little to no liability here.
Strongly disagree. If the transaction was still in pending status, she could get it frozen/reversed at her bank. If not, that's a freaking horrible bank and I would close my account ASAP. If it already cleared, it's moot to talk about the bank fixing it. Now the cops, FBI, AG get involved.

 
People who fall for card popping scams are not refunded nor forgiven the debt. I'm sure if it was still pending they would stop it sure, just like any other stop payment. But if not, and it is unlikely here, I'll say it again. The bank has no culpability whatsoever.

 
People who fall for card popping scams are not refunded nor forgiven the debt. I'm sure if it was still pending they would stop it sure, just like any other stop payment. But if not, and it is unlikely here, I'll say it again. The bank has no culpability whatsoever.
If there was fraud involved, yes there is a chance, but they will not get a dime from the bank. Since it was a US bank, I assume, it might be possible to track down the crooks if they were not smart. If this was overseas it would be no chance in hell.

 
People who fall for card popping scams are not refunded nor forgiven the debt. I'm sure if it was still pending they would stop it sure, just like any other stop payment. But if not, and it is unlikely here, I'll say it again. The bank has no culpability whatsoever.
If there was fraud involved, yes there is a chance, but they will not get a dime from the bank. Since it was a US bank, I assume, it might be possible to track down the crooks if they were not smart. If this was overseas it would be no chance in hell.
Sorry, yes, this is what I was saying. Not a cent from the bank. I'm not speaking of any other sources. My point was, the bank has no responsibility to refund anything. And they won't.

 
People who fall for card popping scams are not refunded nor forgiven the debt. I'm sure if it was still pending they would stop it sure, just like any other stop payment. But if not, and it is unlikely here, I'll say it again. The bank has no culpability whatsoever.
If there was fraud involved, yes there is a chance, but they will not get a dime from the bank. Since it was a US bank, I assume, it might be possible to track down the crooks if they were not smart. If this was overseas it would be no chance in hell.
Sorry, yes, this is what I was saying. Not a cent from the bank. I'm not speaking of any other sources. My point was, the bank has no responsibility to refund anything. And they won't.
The transfer took place Thursday apparently. From a Canadian bank to a US bank.

 
Has the sister has any problems with drugs? Would she be the type of woman who'd do a less than savory act to acquire drugs? What part of the country does the sister live in?

 
I HOPE this has been stated, but didn't see it yet...

Um... ####### police down? Or the A-Team?

 
Well, $10K officially off to Nigeria.

Now it is just follow up with the FBI, etc., but for sure the $$ is gone.

Note to anyone who hasn't added 2 step verification to your Gmail - take a moment & do it now.

 
I have a private island I would like to sell your girlfriend. Wouldn't that be a sweet little getaway for you two? Hmmm?

 
I asked earlier, her sister sent $10k without a phone call? This was over a 2 week period, no human interaction beyond email? She didn't receive any of these emails on her phone to realize something shady was going on?

 
How could she not see a 2 week correspondence between "herself" and her sister when she logged into gmail at any time during those 2 weeks?

 
How could she not see a 2 week correspondence between "herself" and her sister when she logged into gmail at any time during those 2 weeks?
The spammer prob erased, so if she doesn't have a smartphone, I guess she didn't? If she does have any type of smartphone, then these emails would've gone right to her This is one of my questions though.

 
How could she not see a 2 week correspondence between "herself" and her sister when she logged into gmail at any time during those 2 weeks?
The spammer prob erased, so if she doesn't have a smartphone, I guess she didn't? If she does have any type of smartphone, then these emails would've gone right to her This is one of my questions though.
Scammer must have been quick to delete those emails

 
I asked earlier, her sister sent $10k without a phone call? This was over a 2 week period, no human interaction beyond email? She didn't receive any of these emails on her phone to realize something shady was going on?
She got some emails from a fake email in her sister's name. That is the only email chain she has.

Haven't seen what emails this sister got from her. Nothing in my GFs sent file.

Dunno if they sent it from GFs actual email or created one that looked very similar.

Sister still on vacation & I haven't pressed GF for details since she's been up to her eyeballs in this thing since she first found out about it Sat morn.

We were holding out hope that the transfer didn't go through because the account number sister sent it to in Texas had only 8 digits (supposed to have 9). Transfer apparently still went through because the name & all the other info matched.

Someone (either FBI or local police) called the guy & the $$ went from his account to Nigeria. Says was sending to to his GF who was expecting it.

 
I asked earlier, her sister sent $10k without a phone call? This was over a 2 week period, no human interaction beyond email? She didn't receive any of these emails on her phone to realize something shady was going on?
She got some emails from a fake email in her sister's name. That is the only email chain she has.

Haven't seen what emails this sister got from her. Nothing in my GFs sent file.

Dunno if they sent it from GFs actual email or created one that looked very similar.

Sister still on vacation & I haven't pressed GF for details since she's been up to her eyeballs in this thing since she first found out about it Sat morn.

We were holding out hope that the transfer didn't go through because the account number sister sent it to in Texas had only 8 digits (supposed to have 9). Transfer apparently still went through because the name & all the other info matched.

Someone (either FBI or local police) called the guy & the $$ went from his account to Nigeria. Says was sending to to his GF who was expecting it.
But the sister sent $10k to your GF without actually talking to her?

 
I'm aware of similar scams. She's not going to get any money back and isn't going to be able to get law enforcement to help in a meaningful way.

Chalk it up as an expensive life lesson.

 
So there must be criminals that access accounts that just search emails for keywords like "loan, money, credit card, etc"

 
How could she not see a 2 week correspondence between "herself" and her sister when she logged into gmail at any time during those 2 weeks?
The spammer prob erased, so if she doesn't have a smartphone, I guess she didn't? If she does have any type of smartphone, then these emails would've gone right to her This is one of my questions though.
GF has a smartphone, so unlikely that they sent the emails to her sister from GFs actual email, I'm thinking. Or did something to modify where it goes when you respond to it.

Sister didn't call GF because emails specifically said not to (phone wasn't working, you can only contact me via email or something like that). Simple phone call would have foiled the whole thing.

Bummer, but it happened.

 
I asked earlier, her sister sent $10k without a phone call? This was over a 2 week period, no human interaction beyond email? She didn't receive any of these emails on her phone to realize something shady was going on?
She got some emails from a fake email in her sister's name. That is the only email chain she has.

Haven't seen what emails this sister got from her. Nothing in my GFs sent file.

Dunno if they sent it from GFs actual email or created one that looked very similar.

Sister still on vacation & I haven't pressed GF for details since she's been up to her eyeballs in this thing since she first found out about it Sat morn.

We were holding out hope that the transfer didn't go through because the account number sister sent it to in Texas had only 8 digits (supposed to have 9). Transfer apparently still went through because the name & all the other info matched.

Someone (either FBI or local police) called the guy & the $$ went from his account to Nigeria. Says was sending to to his GF who was expecting it.
But the sister sent $10k to your GF without actually talking to her?
Yep.

Edit: Send $10K to some guy in TX on my GF's behalf without actually talking to her.

 
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I'd contact both banks immediately and see if anything can be done regarding that transaction.
this for sure.....hopefully they can freeze the account that the money entered into. Get the fraud department of the initiating bank working on this ASAP. For all of you that hate big banks, it is times likes these that having a large platform really helps.

 
If this has not already been suggested.. sign out of ALL google accounts and then change the password. Changing the password alone might not boot the criminals out of the account.

 
How could she not see a 2 week correspondence between "herself" and her sister when she logged into gmail at any time during those 2 weeks?
The spammer prob erased, so if she doesn't have a smartphone, I guess she didn't? If she does have any type of smartphone, then these emails would've gone right to her This is one of my questions though.
GF has a smartphone, so unlikely that they sent the emails to her sister from GFs actual email, I'm thinking. Or did something to modify where it goes when you respond to it.

Sister didn't call GF because emails specifically said not to (phone wasn't working, you can only contact me via email or something like that). Simple phone call would have foiled the whole thing.

Bummer, but it happened.
With all due respect your GF's sister, but this should've been a GIGANTIC red flag when being asked for $10k. In all honesty, I think TXBuckeye is correct and she prob will never recover the funds. Sorry to hear.

 
I'm aware of similar scams. She's not going to get any money back and isn't going to be able to get law enforcement to help in a meaningful way.

Chalk it up as an expensive life lesson.
:goodposting:

Thankfully, I'm a FBG, so 10 racks is well, just 10 racks I guess. Still a PITA.

 
If this has not already been suggested.. sign out of ALL google accounts and then change the password. Changing the password alone might not boot the criminals out of the account.
Anyone know of where/who to contact at Google to make sure that everything is signed out?

I signed on with her password from my work computer to test the 2 step verification (it worked), but she keeps having an issue where she will get booted from her gmail & have to log in again (also happened to me when I was logged in as her).

I'm was thinking/hoping it might be a result of the hackers still trying to access with the old password, but if anyone has some knowledge about the aftermath of having your email hacked, that would be helpful.

 
this whole thing sounds fishy. No way of bank complete the transfer with only 8 of the 9 correct numbers for the account

 
this whole thing sounds fishy. No way of bank complete the transfer with only 8 of the 9 correct numbers for the account
That's my understanding of it. One number shy. The bank in TX wouldn't even talk to my GF until she came brought them the right account #.

First wire transfer apparently happened Wednesday. GF found out about it Sat AM after seeing that her "sister" sent her an email at 2:30 & told her she would be travelling to Malaysia, which GF knew was not the case.

 
I'd contact both banks immediately and see if anything can be done regarding that transaction.
this for sure.....hopefully they can freeze the account that the money entered into. Get the fraud department of the initiating bank working on this ASAP. For all of you that hate big banks, it is times likes these that having a large platform really helps.
They can try, but it's doubtful the fraudster leaves money in the account. It's almost certainly already gone.

 
I have incomplete info, but what I know now is that someone hacked into her Gmail account and responded to an email from her sister about $$ that my girlfriend had coming to her. Long story short, someone created and continued a correspondence that resulted in her sister wiring $10K from a Canadian bank account to an account in Houston.
Going to need to flush out the details....

Where was the money coming from? What was it for?

 
I have incomplete info, but what I know now is that someone hacked into her Gmail account and responded to an email from her sister about $$ that my girlfriend had coming to her. Long story short, someone created and continued a correspondence that resulted in her sister wiring $10K from a Canadian bank account to an account in Houston.
Going to need to flush out the details....

Where was the money coming from? What was it for?
how does this account get hacked knowing the sister owed 10k

 
I have incomplete info, but what I know now is that someone hacked into her Gmail account and responded to an email from her sister about $$ that my girlfriend had coming to her. Long story short, someone created and continued a correspondence that resulted in her sister wiring $10K from a Canadian bank account to an account in Houston.
Going to need to flush out the details....

Where was the money coming from? What was it for?
Not at liberty to fill in details, even if I had them. GF & family generally very private about finances & GF specifically requested I not share a bunch of background info here.

So, though the entertainment value is far less this way - that's about all I've got for you.

 
So there must be criminals that access accounts that just search emails for keywords like "loan, money, credit card, etc"
With how much spam mail everyone gets, I have to think even this approach would be fruitless. But I agree...this is the strangest part of the story to me - the sheer "luck" of it.

 
So there must be criminals that access accounts that just search emails for keywords like "loan, money, credit card, etc"
With how much spam mail everyone gets, I have to think even this approach would be fruitless. But I agree...this is the strangest part of the story to me - the sheer "luck" of it.
My wife and I both had someone submit false unemployment claims in our name. We were notified by the companies, and they immediately denied the claims.So there are people out there trying to submit false claims hoping to get lucky. They need to go online, fill out at least 1hr worth of forms, and then hope the company accidentally doesn't notice a person is still employed. Then they get at max $1100 a month, and are required to submit 3 places they applied at 2x a month. Seems like a lot of work to go through, but the FL Unemployment fraud Dept. Said they get up to 25 calls a day. This all started when they stopped sending checks, and started sending the pre-loaded visa cards.

 
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Ditkaless Wonders said:
If you are just in it with this girlfriend for the sex, by all means continue with her. If you are looking forward to marriage or some other commitment you need to find a smarter girl. I hope that advice proves helpful.

1. Contact sister to let her know that her banking information is in the hands of a scammer.

2. Contact your State Attorney General. They may handle the matter. At the least their webpage will have information on how to proceed to re-secure her information.
it's her fault that her e-mail got hacked?

I have 2-step verification on my account, which might help in the future.
Sister isn't too bright, the gene pool is tainted. Think of the children

 
Wat???

There is a two week correspondence between her sister and the scammer via email? The sister never bothered to call her before loaning her $10k? She doesn't have a smartphone where this correspondence was landing every time she got a new email?
Speaks volumes about their IQ levels.

 

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