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'General Malaise said:
'cosjobs said:
'General Malaise said:
'cosjobs said:
Sorry for the slow response. Yeah, it was the food co-op guy's kid. Pronija pegged the culprit, altho he was pretty far off on the descriptions. The c-op guys in not a hippie at all. More of an off the grid semi-survivalist. But he has great connections at Whole Foods and Central Market, getting lots of great food products from them at really good prices. He has four sons and the oldest worked for me a couple years ago, then the next, and finally this one. They are all very ahrd workers and until this one, the integrity has been spot on. This one caught me off-guard. Knowing his father and brothers, I placed a great deal of trust in him. He was extremely courteous and deferential. He completely snowed me. he was stealing from me from day one. On the last day he stole our wedding rings and some other jewelry. Wife is really pissed.

Anyway, I have know his father a long time and I want to work with him on what to do. All the stuff is in pawn shops, so first order of business will be to get it all retrieved. i don't really want to involve the police, as he'd probably get a couple years and be well on the path to worthless.I want to get my stuff back, but I also want to do whatever will be most likely to get the kid off the path he is on. Its kind of hard to be magnanimous because I get so furious when I think how he deceived me and took advantage of me. I mean, I fixed the kid lunch every day. Made his burgers with no cheese, no tomatoes. Give him advances. Let him get seat time on the tractor to try and learn to use the backhoe, yada, yada.

Anyway, his father is a good man and I told him I would do what he think will be best. His other son is now working on oil rigs in Oklahoma and he is thinking of sending him there where tolerance for bul#### and con artist is very poorly received.
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You are too nice.

Question: If you can prove that all of the stuff is yours at the Pawn Shops, do you just get it back? Is the Pawn Shop out of luck here?

And how did you nail the suspect?
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Too nice? Maybe. But I had some rough adolescent stretches and without catching an undeserved break or two, my life could have ended up far worse. Pay it forward.

Pawn shops cannot sell any item for 30 days. I know if I file with the police, they will be required to return the goods to me. But I doubt they will do it unless I file charges, as proof it was stolen. So the kid has a short window to get everything back before I let the authorities handle it.

I nailed the suspect because I talked to his dad and told him that while I did not suspect his son, he was in the areas where the stuff was stolen on a regular basis and wanted him to ask if he noticed anything askew or maybe mentioned it to some friends where stuff was accessible. His father suspected him and he and his wife grilled him until he fessed up.
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I have a hard time believing you conned other human beings who were nothing but nice to you before robbing them of not only expensive tools, but sentimental and priceless valuables like wedding rings. I don't think you are paying it forward here; I think you are enabling this behavior to continue. What consequences will he face for this? A job on a oil rig? He'll con his way out of that and steal from somebody else.I get where you are coming from and can appreciate your relationship with this sociopath's father, but I disagree with not involving the police. In what instance WOULD you call the police?
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I fully see your point. And if I were not friends with his father the cops would have already been called. I agree he needs a wake-up call, unfortunately an 18 yo going to jail for a couple years is going to cement the fact that he lives out a worthless (or worse) life. Sincerely, I want to take whatever course of action might lead to him straightening out. I do not know what course that would be. I have told the father I would do what he thinks would work best and he seems to waver on whether or not to file charges. And he told me if I do change my mind and file charges he will understand and it is okay with him. I want to do what's right long-term. I do not know what that is.
 
'cosjobs said:
'General Malaise said:
'cosjobs said:
'General Malaise said:
'cosjobs said:
Sorry for the slow response. Yeah, it was the food co-op guy's kid. Pronija pegged the culprit, altho he was pretty far off on the descriptions. The c-op guys in not a hippie at all. More of an off the grid semi-survivalist. But he has great connections at Whole Foods and Central Market, getting lots of great food products from them at really good prices. He has four sons and the oldest worked for me a couple years ago, then the next, and finally this one. They are all very ahrd workers and until this one, the integrity has been spot on. This one caught me off-guard. Knowing his father and brothers, I placed a great deal of trust in him. He was extremely courteous and deferential. He completely snowed me. he was stealing from me from day one. On the last day he stole our wedding rings and some other jewelry. Wife is really pissed.

Anyway, I have know his father a long time and I want to work with him on what to do. All the stuff is in pawn shops, so first order of business will be to get it all retrieved. i don't really want to involve the police, as he'd probably get a couple years and be well on the path to worthless.I want to get my stuff back, but I also want to do whatever will be most likely to get the kid off the path he is on. Its kind of hard to be magnanimous because I get so furious when I think how he deceived me and took advantage of me. I mean, I fixed the kid lunch every day. Made his burgers with no cheese, no tomatoes. Give him advances. Let him get seat time on the tractor to try and learn to use the backhoe, yada, yada.

Anyway, his father is a good man and I told him I would do what he think will be best. His other son is now working on oil rigs in Oklahoma and he is thinking of sending him there where tolerance for bul#### and con artist is very poorly received.
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You are too nice.

Question: If you can prove that all of the stuff is yours at the Pawn Shops, do you just get it back? Is the Pawn Shop out of luck here?

And how did you nail the suspect?
Click to expand...
Too nice? Maybe. But I had some rough adolescent stretches and without catching an undeserved break or two, my life could have ended up far worse. Pay it forward.

Pawn shops cannot sell any item for 30 days. I know if I file with the police, they will be required to return the goods to me. But I doubt they will do it unless I file charges, as proof it was stolen. So the kid has a short window to get everything back before I let the authorities handle it.

I nailed the suspect because I talked to his dad and told him that while I did not suspect his son, he was in the areas where the stuff was stolen on a regular basis and wanted him to ask if he noticed anything askew or maybe mentioned it to some friends where stuff was accessible. His father suspected him and he and his wife grilled him until he fessed up.
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I have a hard time believing you conned other human beings who were nothing but nice to you before robbing them of not only expensive tools, but sentimental and priceless valuables like wedding rings. I don't think you are paying it forward here; I think you are enabling this behavior to continue. What consequences will he face for this? A job on a oil rig? He'll con his way out of that and steal from somebody else.I get where you are coming from and can appreciate your relationship with this sociopath's father, but I disagree with not involving the police. In what instance WOULD you call the police?
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I fully see your point. And if I were not friends with his father the cops would have already been called. I agree he needs a wake-up call, unfortunately an 18 yo going to jail for a couple years is going to cement the fact that he lives out a worthless (or worse) life. Sincerely, I want to take whatever course of action might lead to him straightening out. I do not know what course that would be. I have told the father I would do what he thinks would work best and he seems to waver on whether or not to file charges. And he told me if I do change my mind and file charges he will understand and it is okay with him. I want to do what's right long-term. I do not know what that is.
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I certainly don't know the answer either, I just hate to see you get taken advantage of because you ARE a nice person who is trying help others by giving them honest work. Why can't this kid steal from a jerkwad like Furley or something?
 
'St. Louis Bob said:
He has learned more from Curious George than I could ever imagine. I still :lmao: at "red skies at night, monkey's delight."
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When shown a picture of her cousin's Pinewood Derby car, my five year old niece said "the more heavier it goes, the faster it goes. I'm gonna make one and put the weight in the back." I was impressed, since many of the scouts (and dads) don't seem to know this yet. Says she learned about speed from Curious George.
 
'Disco Stu said:
'St. Louis Bob said:
He has learned more from Curious George than I could ever imagine. I still :lmao: at "red skies at night, monkey's delight."
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When shown a picture of her cousin's Pinewood Derby car, my five year old niece said "the more heavier it goes, the faster it goes. I'm gonna make one and put the weight in the back." I was impressed, since many of the scouts (and dads) don't seem to know this yet. Says she learned about speed from Curious George.
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The monkey? :confused:
 
'General Malaise said:
'Disco Stu said:
'St. Louis Bob said:
He has learned more from Curious George than I could ever imagine. I still :lmao: at "red skies at night, monkey's delight."
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When shown a picture of her cousin's Pinewood Derby car, my five year old niece said "the more heavier it goes, the faster it goes. I'm gonna make one and put the weight in the back." I was impressed, since many of the scouts (and dads) don't seem to know this yet. Says she learned about speed from Curious George.
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The monkey? :confused:
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That's the only Curious George I'm familiar with. Apparently the cartoon series always has some sort of educational lesson.
 
'General Malaise said:
'cosjobs said:
'General Malaise said:
'cosjobs said:
'General Malaise said:
'cosjobs said:
Sorry for the slow response. Yeah, it was the food co-op guy's kid. Pronija pegged the culprit, altho he was pretty far off on the descriptions. The c-op guys in not a hippie at all. More of an off the grid semi-survivalist. But he has great connections at Whole Foods and Central Market, getting lots of great food products from them at really good prices. He has four sons and the oldest worked for me a couple years ago, then the next, and finally this one. They are all very ahrd workers and until this one, the integrity has been spot on. This one caught me off-guard. Knowing his father and brothers, I placed a great deal of trust in him. He was extremely courteous and deferential. He completely snowed me. he was stealing from me from day one. On the last day he stole our wedding rings and some other jewelry. Wife is really pissed.

Anyway, I have know his father a long time and I want to work with him on what to do. All the stuff is in pawn shops, so first order of business will be to get it all retrieved. i don't really want to involve the police, as he'd probably get a couple years and be well on the path to worthless.I want to get my stuff back, but I also want to do whatever will be most likely to get the kid off the path he is on. Its kind of hard to be magnanimous because I get so furious when I think how he deceived me and took advantage of me. I mean, I fixed the kid lunch every day. Made his burgers with no cheese, no tomatoes. Give him advances. Let him get seat time on the tractor to try and learn to use the backhoe, yada, yada.

Anyway, his father is a good man and I told him I would do what he think will be best. His other son is now working on oil rigs in Oklahoma and he is thinking of sending him there where tolerance for bul#### and con artist is very poorly received.
Click to expand...
You are too nice.

Question: If you can prove that all of the stuff is yours at the Pawn Shops, do you just get it back? Is the Pawn Shop out of luck here?

And how did you nail the suspect?
Click to expand...
Too nice? Maybe. But I had some rough adolescent stretches and without catching an undeserved break or two, my life could have ended up far worse. Pay it forward.

Pawn shops cannot sell any item for 30 days. I know if I file with the police, they will be required to return the goods to me. But I doubt they will do it unless I file charges, as proof it was stolen. So the kid has a short window to get everything back before I let the authorities handle it.

I nailed the suspect because I talked to his dad and told him that while I did not suspect his son, he was in the areas where the stuff was stolen on a regular basis and wanted him to ask if he noticed anything askew or maybe mentioned it to some friends where stuff was accessible. His father suspected him and he and his wife grilled him until he fessed up.
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I have a hard time believing you conned other human beings who were nothing but nice to you before robbing them of not only expensive tools, but sentimental and priceless valuables like wedding rings. I don't think you are paying it forward here; I think you are enabling this behavior to continue. What consequences will he face for this? A job on a oil rig? He'll con his way out of that and steal from somebody else.I get where you are coming from and can appreciate your relationship with this sociopath's father, but I disagree with not involving the police. In what instance WOULD you call the police?
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I fully see your point. And if I were not friends with his father the cops would have already been called. I agree he needs a wake-up call, unfortunately an 18 yo going to jail for a couple years is going to cement the fact that he lives out a worthless (or worse) life. Sincerely, I want to take whatever course of action might lead to him straightening out. I do not know what course that would be. I have told the father I would do what he thinks would work best and he seems to waver on whether or not to file charges. And he told me if I do change my mind and file charges he will understand and it is okay with him. I want to do what's right long-term. I do not know what that is.
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I certainly don't know the answer either, I just hate to see you get taken advantage of because you ARE a nice person who is trying help others by giving them honest work. Why can't this kid steal from a jerkwad like Furley or something?
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I certainly do not want to change who I am because of who he is.I called APD to find out their suggestions and find out the official length of time the pawn shop has to hold merchandise and what all I have to do to get it back. Of course APD office closed at 4:30, so I'll have to call back tomorrow.

 
'-fish- said:
Joel was the younger brother of identical twin sisters that I went to school with from the time I was in junior high. I got to know him really well over the last 20 years. He was a great guy, always cheerful and willing to listen to any problem you might have. He played in our fantasy league for the last 15 years, and never missed our Vegas draft. Last time I saw him I took him to the Holiday Bowl in San Diego in December.He felt sick and left work early today. He collapsed on the platform of the BART station on his way home.Here's to you, Joel. You'll be missed. :cry:
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Damn. :sadbanana:Sorry for your loss. This hits home when you hear about guys 40 and younger dying from heart attacks. :(
 
'Disco Stu said:
'General Malaise said:
'Disco Stu said:
'St. Louis Bob said:
He has learned more from Curious George than I could ever imagine. I still :lmao: at "red skies at night, monkey's delight."
Click to expand...
When shown a picture of her cousin's Pinewood Derby car, my five year old niece said "the more heavier it goes, the faster it goes. I'm gonna make one and put the weight in the back." I was impressed, since many of the scouts (and dads) don't seem to know this yet. Says she learned about speed from Curious George.
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The monkey? :confused:
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That's the only Curious George I'm familiar with. Apparently the cartoon series always has some sort of educational lesson.
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:goodposting: That funky monkey.
'Guster said:
'General Malaise said:
'Osaurus said:
That dog thread is tough for me. The mention of a Patty Melt did make me feel better. It is my favorite burger.
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What exactly is a Patty Melt? Is it better than a Sourdough Jack - aka the Pinnacle of Fast Food Goodness?
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<insert cheesy joke about bob and his wife here>
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The only way I can make her melt is with a blowtorch.
 
'urbanhack said:
10 day summary in here??
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Previously on GMTAN...Shuke took a picture of himself holding a Wade Boggs baseball card in his Reds Shrine Room as he and several dozen of us got caught up in FBG Lotto Madness. Each and every one of us fantasized about super rich winnings, an epic cornhole in Veags with hookers and blow and copious handjobs for all. Then, Tigerfan jinked each and every one of us by starting a ridiculous thread asking what we were REALLY going to do with all our winnings. Doomed to fail the, ~700 Mega Jackpot tickets bought by the 'syndicate' failed to yield enough winnings to cover dinner for two at Olive Garden. If you are pitching a no-hitter, treat Tigerfan like a Leper patient with SARS. He will jinx you silly.

Krista is intelligent and wealthy enough to purchase a second Nicraguan home which both smells of really old Tanner AND sits across the street from a family full of midgets. She cannot, however, remember her FBG password and is stuck posting as her husband, which is making cyber-sex with her very awkward and peculiar.

Guster went all Disco Stu on us for about 2 weeks with lude and lascivous (sp?) tales of tail complet:e: with pics, but has sadly fallen in love and will probably be proposing in the next month. Gadzooks, meanwhile, jizzimed on his tuxedo pants and doesn't want to take it into the dry cleaners because he works for the gal's father and there is only one cleaner in the entire metro Boston area.

Thorn sent out another video trying to disprove the assertion that he very much sounds like the the Pepperidge Farm Cookie Man, but it only served to strengthen the belief that the two are related. Tre sent around a follow up video in which he drank a fifth of pernot, 7 PBRs, two shots of Old Smugglers scotch and 4,898 of Minnesota's 10,000 lakes. He plans on taking a giant whizz on the state of Wisconsin.

Kevzilla spent 3 years learning how to count cards, then went to Las Vegas where he promptly put his newfound skills to video poker. He hit it big, then went upstairs to iron his hair and redistribute his mega winnings.

YSR hasn't broken anything in a while, but she did nearly flip over a poker table after mistakenly mucking a winning hand.

St. Louis Bob completed his path, then invested a bunch of money in a company that will make his path invisible. He also discovered an alien life form on one of his 'walks'.

Tanner tried to take a video of himself and send it along to the GMTAN Text Clique, but none of us have silent picture apps on our phones, so it didn't go over very well.

We were all sorry to hear about all the troubles Cosjobs has been having at work, man.

Osaurus (sp?) took the time and effort to send out an ENORMOUS amount of music to all of us. I'm trying to find a CD player on craigslist to play some of the classical tunes. That was very cool of him. So cool that we've forgiven his avatar switch.

Bogart lost his dad to cancer, but gave him a very touching and heartfelt good-bye. Disco Stu also lost his dad recently. It's been a pretty tough month for GMTAN folks. Woz almost lost his virginity too, but he ran out of the jack-shak before the deed could be completed.

I think that's most of it.

 
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'General Malaise said:
'urbanhack said:
10 day summary in here??
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Previously on GMTAN...Shuke took a picture of himself holding a Wade Boggs baseball card in his Reds Shrine Room as he and several dozen of us got caught up in FBG Lotto Madness. Each and every one of us fantasized about super rich winnings, an epic cornhole in Veags with hookers and blow and copious handjobs for all. Then, Tigerfan jinked each and every one of us by starting a ridiculous thread asking what we were REALLY going to do with all our winnings. Doomed to fail the, ~700 Mega Jackpot tickets bought by the 'syndicate' failed to yield enough winnings to cover dinner for two at Olive Garden. If you are pitching a no-hitter, treat Tigerfan like a Leper patient with SARS. He will jinx you silly.

Krista is intelligent and wealthy enough to purchase a second Nicraguan home which both smells of really old Tanner AND sits across the street from a family full of midgets. She cannot, however, remember her FBG password and is stuck posting as her husband, which is making cyber-sex with her very awkward and peculiar.

Guster went all Disco Stu on us for about 2 weeks with lude and lascivous (sp?) tales of tail complet:e: with pics, but has sadly fallen in love and will probably be proposing in the next month. Gadzooks, meanwhile, jizzimed on his tuxedo pants and doesn't want to take it into the dry cleaners because he works for the gal's father and there is only one cleaner in the entire metro Boston area.

Thorn sent out another video trying to disprove the assertion that he very much sounds like the the Pepperidge Farm Cookie Man, but it only served to strengthen the belief that the two are related. Tre sent around a follow up video in which he drank a fifth of pernot, 7 PBRs, two shots of Old Smugglers scotch and 4,898 of Minnesota's 10,000 lakes. He plans on taking a giant whizz on the state of Wisconsin.

Kevzilla spent 3 years learning how to count cards, then went to Las Vegas where he promptly put his newfound skills to video poker. He hit it big, then went upstairs to iron his hair and redistribute his mega winnings.

YSR hasn't broken anything in a while, but she did nearly flip over a poker table after mistakenly mucking a winning hand.

St. Louis Bob completed his path, then invested a bunch of money in a company that will make his path invisible. He also discovered an alien life form on one of his 'walks'.

Tanner tried to take a video of himself and send it along to the GMTAN Text Clique, but none of us have silent picture apps on our phones, so it didn't go over very well.

We were all sorry to hear about all the troubles Cosjobs has been having at work, man.

Osaurus (sp?) took the time and effort to send out an ENORMOUS amount of music to all of us. I'm trying to find a CD player on craigslist to play some of the classical tunes. That was very cool of him. So cool that we've forgiven his avatar switch.

Bogart lost his dad to cancer, but gave him a very touching and heartfelt good-bye. Disco Stu also lost his dad recently. It's been a pretty tough month for GMTAN folks. Woz almost lost his virginity too, but he ran out of the jack-shak before the deed could be completed.

I think that's most of it.
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Bravo! :wub:
 
As I've mentioned several times, we are in the process of cleaning up/rebuilding part of a rental house that caught fire a couple of months ago. Mr. YSR has been over there 7 days a week, doing most of the work with a couple of guys we got from Craigslist.

I got brought in for the big finish, which basically means that I got brought in to clean. So I spent all day today scraping paint off of tile floors, wet/dry vacuuming the remaining wet/dirty insulation, wiping down appliances and cabinets, etc. Then it came time for me to go into the bathroom, where minimal damage was done, but it needed a decent wipe down from sheetrock dust, etc.

Have I mentioned that the renter is a male student at UT? Between the existing nastiness of the bathroom and that of his bedroom, I have to ask WTF is wrong with you people?

It's been over a decade since I've stepped foot in a college guy's living quarters, and I hope it's another before I do so again. :X

 
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