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Notorious T.R.E.
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T Bell
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Girlfriend and I lasted into Season 3 on a hard core two-week Mad Men binge, but we just stopped caring at that point.
phishphan
Footballguy
T Bell
Footballguy
Officer Pete Malloy
Footballguy
I'M SURE THERE'S AN EPISODE OF "HOME IMPROVEMENT" ON SOMEWHERE FOR YOU.
Girlfriend and I lasted into Season 3 on a hard core two-week Mad Men binge, but we just stopped caring at that point.
Abraham
Footballguy
Watched "Savages". Enoyed it more than I thought. But...
Worth watching, 3 out of 4 stars for an action film. Definitely better than Taken 2 and as entertaining as Skyfall. But some missed opportunities for a filmmaker of Stone's ability.
Stone could have made a decent little action movie that got a B+ score at the theater and made some money. But it's like he made that film and then decided, "I'm oliver stone....this can't be the movie I make!" So he added the rape scene for no apparent reason and took an acceptable ending and tacked on a second ending that was nowhere near satisfying and lacked imagination. Like usual, Del Toro makes a sensational villain. He's really unlikeable and seeing him get his becomes more important then seeing the dealer-duo get out alive (IMO). In one ending, the director tries too hard to let all three of our heros get a shot at the villain. Then in the"real" ending, he gets to drive off while the entire southern fleet of the DEA swoops in and ignores him?
The first ending is stupid as well if for no other reason then the fact that John was outfitted with 12 vials of morphine for a prisoner swap? Even putting that aside, there is no way that was their plan; trading hostages and ending up in the exact same spot they were before with a ticked off drug lord after them. So they were still planning to run to Indonesia after all that? They were going to take an evil drug lord at her word that even though they stole 3 million dollars, killed 7 of her men, and put her daughter in a fridge that she would keep to her word and wouldn't end up beheading them?
A better ending would have been a combo of the two wherein John and Rufus (forgot his name) coordinate with Dennis to have the lady arrested so they can go on with their lives. Similarly unimaginable but very Hollywood andit would have made it a good
flick.
If Stone wanted to make something "edgy" he should have explored how two rich 28 year olds are fine with sharing a woman. Why not make them homosexuals as well? Make a movie about people who are committed to each other in every way rather than a movie about two dissimilar guys who don't mind sharing a girl? That didn't work for me. Just make her one of the guy's sister and one of the guy's girlfriend.
And the existential stuff with Ophelia narrating about Savages while walking on the beach was dumb. Once again, seems like Stone wasn't satisfied just making an action movie. The editing was also awful as we learn the definition of IED about 4 times in ninety seconds.
The first ending is stupid as well if for no other reason then the fact that John was outfitted with 12 vials of morphine for a prisoner swap? Even putting that aside, there is no way that was their plan; trading hostages and ending up in the exact same spot they were before with a ticked off drug lord after them. So they were still planning to run to Indonesia after all that? They were going to take an evil drug lord at her word that even though they stole 3 million dollars, killed 7 of her men, and put her daughter in a fridge that she would keep to her word and wouldn't end up beheading them?
A better ending would have been a combo of the two wherein John and Rufus (forgot his name) coordinate with Dennis to have the lady arrested so they can go on with their lives. Similarly unimaginable but very Hollywood andit would have made it a good
flick.If Stone wanted to make something "edgy" he should have explored how two rich 28 year olds are fine with sharing a woman. Why not make them homosexuals as well? Make a movie about people who are committed to each other in every way rather than a movie about two dissimilar guys who don't mind sharing a girl? That didn't work for me. Just make her one of the guy's sister and one of the guy's girlfriend.
And the existential stuff with Ophelia narrating about Savages while walking on the beach was dumb. Once again, seems like Stone wasn't satisfied just making an action movie. The editing was also awful as we learn the definition of IED about 4 times in ninety seconds.
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Guster
Footballguy
Guster
Footballguy
Does this mean you guys are in??I am so in.I need to get on the ball, but the plan is to:0. go out in Cincy on Friday night and get drunk,%, crash at my place,3- hop on a bus in the morning to the derbyfour: drink heavilyV> watch horses run in circles from the infield while drinking heavily2*(4-1) = hop on a bus and drink our way homese7en. drink some more at my place8. sunday start with mimosas and/or bloody mary's as we watch the marathon runners go bynein, bbq?10. profit, definitely profit I'm reaching out to some local friends to see if they would be interested in joining. If I can get enough people, then we could hire our own bus, otherwise we'll grab seats on a big party bus with strangersI believe so. I had originally planned on doing the same, but my mom had her health issues. She's doing swimmingly now, so this may be back on the table provided I don't get violated on the flight.Are these guys actually going to the Kentucky Derby this year or am I misinterpreting something?Notorious T.R.E. said:
Tremendous Upside
Footballguy
Worth watching, 3 out of 4 stars for an action film. Definitely better than Taken 2 and as entertaining as Skyfall. But some missed opportunities for a filmmaker of Stone's ability.Watched "Savages". Enoyed it more than I thought. But...
Stone could have made a decent little action movie that got a B+ score at the theater and made some money. But it's like he made that film and then decided, "I'm oliver stone....this can't be the movie I make!" So he added the rape scene for no apparent reason and took an acceptable ending and tacked on a second ending that was nowhere near satisfying and lacked imagination. Like usual, Del Toro makes a sensational villain. He's really unlikeable and seeing him get his becomes more important then seeing the dealer-duo get out alive (IMO). In one ending, the director tries too hard to let all three of our heros get a shot at the villain. Then in the"real" ending, he gets to drive off while the entire southern fleet of the DEA swoops in and ignores him?
The first ending is stupid as well if for no other reason then the fact that John was outfitted with 12 vials of morphine for a prisoner swap? Even putting that aside, there is no way that was their plan; trading hostages and ending up in the exact same spot they were before with a ticked off drug lord after them. So they were still planning to run to Indonesia after all that? They were going to take an evil drug lord at her word that even though they stole 3 million dollars, killed 7 of her men, and put her daughter in a fridge that she would keep to her word and wouldn't end up beheading them?
A better ending would have been a combo of the two wherein John and Rufus (forgot his name) coordinate with Dennis to have the lady arrested so they can go on with their lives. Similarly unimaginable but very Hollywood andit would have made it a good
If Stone wanted to make something "edgy" he should have explored how two rich 28 year olds are fine with sharing a woman. Why not make them homosexuals as well? Make a movie about people who are committed to each other in every way rather than a movie about two dissimilar guys who don't mind sharing a girl? That didn't work for me. Just make her one of the guy's sister and one of the guy's girlfriend.
And the existential stuff with Ophelia narrating about Savages while walking on the beach was dumb. Once again, seems like Stone wasn't satisfied just making an action movie. The editing was also awful as we learn the definition of IED about 4 times in ninety seconds.
It was based on a novel
There's a prequel by the same author called The Kings of Cool that I liked even more than Savages (which I enjoyed)
phishphan
Footballguy
Officer Pete Malloy
Footballguy
Worth watching, 3 out of 4 stars for an action film. Definitely better than Taken 2 and as entertaining as Skyfall. But some missed opportunities for a filmmaker of Stone's ability.Watched "Savages". Enoyed it more than I thought. But...
Stone could have made a decent little action movie that got a B+ score at the theater and made some money. But it's like he made that film and then decided, "I'm oliver stone....this can't be the movie I make!" So he added the rape scene for no apparent reason and took an acceptable ending and tacked on a second ending that was nowhere near satisfying and lacked imagination. Like usual, Del Toro makes a sensational villain. He's really unlikeable and seeing him get his becomes more important then seeing the dealer-duo get out alive (IMO). In one ending, the director tries too hard to let all three of our heros get a shot at the villain. Then in the"real" ending, he gets to drive off while the entire southern fleet of the DEA swoops in and ignores him?
The first ending is stupid as well if for no other reason then the fact that John was outfitted with 12 vials of morphine for a prisoner swap? Even putting that aside, there is no way that was their plan; trading hostages and ending up in the exact same spot they were before with a ticked off drug lord after them. So they were still planning to run to Indonesia after all that? They were going to take an evil drug lord at her word that even though they stole 3 million dollars, killed 7 of her men, and put her daughter in a fridge that she would keep to her word and wouldn't end up beheading them?
A better ending would have been a combo of the two wherein John and Rufus (forgot his name) coordinate with Dennis to have the lady arrested so they can go on with their lives. Similarly unimaginable but very Hollywood andit would have made it a good
If Stone wanted to make something "edgy" he should have explored how two rich 28 year olds are fine with sharing a woman. Why not make them homosexuals as well? Make a movie about people who are committed to each other in every way rather than a movie about two dissimilar guys who don't mind sharing a girl? That didn't work for me. Just make her one of the guy's sister and one of the guy's girlfriend.
And the existential stuff with Ophelia narrating about Savages while walking on the beach was dumb. Once again, seems like Stone wasn't satisfied just making an action movie. The editing was also awful as we learn the definition of IED about 4 times in ninety seconds.
How "Oliver Stone-ish" is this movie?
Abraham
Footballguy
Watched "Savages". Enoyed it more than I thought. But...
Stone could have made a decent little action movie that got a B+ score at the theater and made some money. But it's like he made that film and then decided, "I'm oliver stone....this can't be the movie I make!" So he added the rape scene for no apparent reason and took an acceptable ending and tacked on a second ending that was nowhere near satisfying and lacked imagination. Like usual, Del Toro makes a sensational villain. He's really unlikeable and seeing him get his becomes more important then seeing the dealer-duo get out alive (IMO). In one ending, the director tries too hard to let all three of our heros get a shot at the villain. Then in the"real" ending, he gets to drive off while the entire southern fleet of the DEA swoops in and ignores him?
The first ending is stupid as well if for no other reason then the fact that John was outfitted with 12 vials of morphine for a prisoner swap? Even putting that aside, there is no way that was their plan; trading hostages and ending up in the exact same spot they were before with a ticked off drug lord after them. So they were still planning to run to Indonesia after all that? They were going to take an evil drug lord at her word that even though they stole 3 million dollars, killed 7 of her men, and put her daughter in a fridge that she would keep to her word and wouldn't end up beheading them?
A better ending would have been a combo of the two wherein John and Rufus (forgot his name) coordinate with Dennis to have the lady arrested so they can go on with their lives. Similarly unimaginable but very Hollywood andit would have made it a good
If Stone wanted to make something "edgy" he should have explored how two rich 28 year olds are fine with sharing a woman. Why not make them homosexuals as well? Make a movie about people who are committed to each other in every way rather than a movie about two dissimilar guys who don't mind sharing a girl? That didn't work for me. Just make her one of the guy's sister and one of the guy's girlfriend.
And the existential stuff with Ophelia narrating about Savages while walking on the beach was dumb. Once again, seems like Stone wasn't satisfied just making an action movie. The editing was also awful as we learn the definition of IED about 4 times in ninety seconds.
Worth watching, 3 out of 4 stars for an action film. Definitely better than Taken 2 and as entertaining as Skyfall. But some missed opportunities for a filmmaker of Stone's ability.
I'm not sure you would identify it as a Stone movie if you had heard nothing about it and his name wasn't all throughout the credits. It seems like an action movie made by some ambitious young director who went back later and added some 'color' in an attempt to stand out as edgy. it's entertaining, but it's nothing on the level of Platoon or Any Given Sunday or even UTurn.
General Malaise
Footballguy
I'M SURE THERE'S AN EPISODE OF "HOME IMPROVEMENT" ON SOMEWHERE FOR YOU.
Girlfriend and I lasted into Season 3 on a hard core two-week Mad Men binge, but we just stopped caring at that point.
I do love me some good Tooltime.
Officer Pete Malloy
Footballguy
Watched "Savages". Enoyed it more than I thought. But...
Stone could have made a decent little action movie that got a B+ score at the theater and made some money. But it's like he made that film and then decided, "I'm oliver stone....this can't be the movie I make!" So he added the rape scene for no apparent reason and took an acceptable ending and tacked on a second ending that was nowhere near satisfying and lacked imagination. Like usual, Del Toro makes a sensational villain. He's really unlikeable and seeing him get his becomes more important then seeing the dealer-duo get out alive (IMO). In one ending, the director tries too hard to let all three of our heros get a shot at the villain. Then in the"real" ending, he gets to drive off while the entire southern fleet of the DEA swoops in and ignores him?
The first ending is stupid as well if for no other reason then the fact that John was outfitted with 12 vials of morphine for a prisoner swap? Even putting that aside, there is no way that was their plan; trading hostages and ending up in the exact same spot they were before with a ticked off drug lord after them. So they were still planning to run to Indonesia after all that? They were going to take an evil drug lord at her word that even though they stole 3 million dollars, killed 7 of her men, and put her daughter in a fridge that she would keep to her word and wouldn't end up beheading them?
A better ending would have been a combo of the two wherein John and Rufus (forgot his name) coordinate with Dennis to have the lady arrested so they can go on with their lives. Similarly unimaginable but very Hollywood andit would have made it a good
If Stone wanted to make something "edgy" he should have explored how two rich 28 year olds are fine with sharing a woman. Why not make them homosexuals as well? Make a movie about people who are committed to each other in every way rather than a movie about two dissimilar guys who don't mind sharing a girl? That didn't work for me. Just make her one of the guy's sister and one of the guy's girlfriend.
And the existential stuff with Ophelia narrating about Savages while walking on the beach was dumb. Once again, seems like Stone wasn't satisfied just making an action movie. The editing was also awful as we learn the definition of IED about 4 times in ninety seconds.Worth watching, 3 out of 4 stars for an action film. Definitely better than Taken 2 and as entertaining as Skyfall. But some missed opportunities for a filmmaker of Stone's ability.
How "Oliver Stone-ish" is this movie?
Good because Platoon was OK, and the others were pretty terrible.
General Malaise
Footballguy
Watched "Savages". Enoyed it more than I thought. But...
Stone could have made a decent little action movie that got a B+ score at the theater and made some money. But it's like he made that film and then decided, "I'm oliver stone....this can't be the movie I make!" So he added the rape scene for no apparent reason and took an acceptable ending and tacked on a second ending that was nowhere near satisfying and lacked imagination. Like usual, Del Toro makes a sensational villain. He's really unlikeable and seeing him get his becomes more important then seeing the dealer-duo get out alive (IMO). In one ending, the director tries too hard to let all three of our heros get a shot at the villain. Then in the"real" ending, he gets to drive off while the entire southern fleet of the DEA swoops in and ignores him?
The first ending is stupid as well if for no other reason then the fact that John was outfitted with 12 vials of morphine for a prisoner swap? Even putting that aside, there is no way that was their plan; trading hostages and ending up in the exact same spot they were before with a ticked off drug lord after them. So they were still planning to run to Indonesia after all that? They were going to take an evil drug lord at her word that even though they stole 3 million dollars, killed 7 of her men, and put her daughter in a fridge that she would keep to her word and wouldn't end up beheading them?
A better ending would have been a combo of the two wherein John and Rufus (forgot his name) coordinate with Dennis to have the lady arrested so they can go on with their lives. Similarly unimaginable but very Hollywood andit would have made it a good
If Stone wanted to make something "edgy" he should have explored how two rich 28 year olds are fine with sharing a woman. Why not make them homosexuals as well? Make a movie about people who are committed to each other in every way rather than a movie about two dissimilar guys who don't mind sharing a girl? That didn't work for me. Just make her one of the guy's sister and one of the guy's girlfriend.
And the existential stuff with Ophelia narrating about Savages while walking on the beach was dumb. Once again, seems like Stone wasn't satisfied just making an action movie. The editing was also awful as we learn the definition of IED about 4 times in ninety seconds.Worth watching, 3 out of 4 stars for an action film. Definitely better than Taken 2 and as entertaining as Skyfall. But some missed opportunities for a filmmaker of Stone's ability.
How "Oliver Stone-ish" is this movie?
You for real here? Platoon is a top 10 movie for me that I will watch time and time again.
You could not pay me enough money to see U-Turn or Any Given Sunday ever again. What the hell is the matter with you? I realize Stone did all three, but I think even he'll admit the latter two are pure garbage. I honestly don't know a single person - or didn't until just now - that liked U-Turn. I hated that movie like it was an STD dipped in razor blades and set on fire by cobra spit. Any Given Sunday was just an insult to anybody with a modicum of football knowledge.
General Malaise
Footballguy
Watched "Savages". Enoyed it more than I thought. But...
Stone could have made a decent little action movie that got a B+ score at the theater and made some money. But it's like he made that film and then decided, "I'm oliver stone....this can't be the movie I make!" So he added the rape scene for no apparent reason and took an acceptable ending and tacked on a second ending that was nowhere near satisfying and lacked imagination. Like usual, Del Toro makes a sensational villain. He's really unlikeable and seeing him get his becomes more important then seeing the dealer-duo get out alive (IMO). In one ending, the director tries too hard to let all three of our heros get a shot at the villain. Then in the"real" ending, he gets to drive off while the entire southern fleet of the DEA swoops in and ignores him?
The first ending is stupid as well if for no other reason then the fact that John was outfitted with 12 vials of morphine for a prisoner swap? Even putting that aside, there is no way that was their plan; trading hostages and ending up in the exact same spot they were before with a ticked off drug lord after them. So they were still planning to run to Indonesia after all that? They were going to take an evil drug lord at her word that even though they stole 3 million dollars, killed 7 of her men, and put her daughter in a fridge that she would keep to her word and wouldn't end up beheading them?
A better ending would have been a combo of the two wherein John and Rufus (forgot his name) coordinate with Dennis to have the lady arrested so they can go on with their lives. Similarly unimaginable but very Hollywood andit would have made it a good
If Stone wanted to make something "edgy" he should have explored how two rich 28 year olds are fine with sharing a woman. Why not make them homosexuals as well? Make a movie about people who are committed to each other in every way rather than a movie about two dissimilar guys who don't mind sharing a girl? That didn't work for me. Just make her one of the guy's sister and one of the guy's girlfriend.
And the existential stuff with Ophelia narrating about Savages while walking on the beach was dumb. Once again, seems like Stone wasn't satisfied just making an action movie. The editing was also awful as we learn the definition of IED about 4 times in ninety seconds.Worth watching, 3 out of 4 stars for an action film. Definitely better than Taken 2 and as entertaining as Skyfall. But some missed opportunities for a filmmaker of Stone's ability.How "Oliver Stone-ish" is this movie?
I'm not sure you would identify it as a Stone movie if you had heard nothing about it and his name wasn't all throughout the credits. It seems like an action movie made by some ambitious young director who went back later and added some 'color' in an attempt to stand out as edgy. it's entertaining, but it's nothing on the level of Platoon or Any Given Sunday or even UTurn.
This, only with more vitriol and disbelief. Second dumbest thing I've read today and he has Psycho Freaking Kev to thank for that.
St. Louis Bob
Footballguy
Sorry to hear Roboto. :(
General Malaise
Footballguy
You essentially just tried to compare Rosanne Barr, Rosie O'Donnell and Heidi Klume because all three have a ######.
Officer Pete Malloy
Footballguy
Watched "Savages". Enoyed it more than I thought. But...
Stone could have made a decent little action movie that got a B+ score at the theater and made some money. But it's like he made that film and then decided, "I'm oliver stone....this can't be the movie I make!" So he added the rape scene for no apparent reason and took an acceptable ending and tacked on a second ending that was nowhere near satisfying and lacked imagination. Like usual, Del Toro makes a sensational villain. He's really unlikeable and seeing him get his becomes more important then seeing the dealer-duo get out alive (IMO). In one ending, the director tries too hard to let all three of our heros get a shot at the villain. Then in the"real" ending, he gets to drive off while the entire southern fleet of the DEA swoops in and ignores him?
The first ending is stupid as well if for no other reason then the fact that John was outfitted with 12 vials of morphine for a prisoner swap? Even putting that aside, there is no way that was their plan; trading hostages and ending up in the exact same spot they were before with a ticked off drug lord after them. So they were still planning to run to Indonesia after all that? They were going to take an evil drug lord at her word that even though they stole 3 million dollars, killed 7 of her men, and put her daughter in a fridge that she would keep to her word and wouldn't end up beheading them?
A better ending would have been a combo of the two wherein John and Rufus (forgot his name) coordinate with Dennis to have the lady arrested so they can go on with their lives. Similarly unimaginable but very Hollywood andit would have made it a good
If Stone wanted to make something "edgy" he should have explored how two rich 28 year olds are fine with sharing a woman. Why not make them homosexuals as well? Make a movie about people who are committed to each other in every way rather than a movie about two dissimilar guys who don't mind sharing a girl? That didn't work for me. Just make her one of the guy's sister and one of the guy's girlfriend.
And the existential stuff with Ophelia narrating about Savages while walking on the beach was dumb. Once again, seems like Stone wasn't satisfied just making an action movie. The editing was also awful as we learn the definition of IED about 4 times in ninety seconds.Worth watching, 3 out of 4 stars for an action film. Definitely better than Taken 2 and as entertaining as Skyfall. But some missed opportunities for a filmmaker of Stone's ability.How "Oliver Stone-ish" is this movie?I'm not sure you would identify it as a Stone movie if you had heard nothing about it and his name wasn't all throughout the credits. It seems like an action movie made by some ambitious young director who went back later and added some 'color' in an attempt to stand out as edgy. it's entertaining, but it's nothing on the level of Platoon or Any Given Sunday or even UTurn.
Good because Platoon was OK, and the others were pretty terrible.
I think you misunderstood. Platoon is "ok" at best. Not great. Certainly not worthy of all the praise and awards it has received over the years.
Any Given Sunday is dog ####.
As far as U-Turn goes...I had to look it up to see if I was remembering the right movie. I was. Totally forgettable.
Stone sucks.
General Malaise
Footballguy
And you said 'entertaining'....U-Turn was not entertaining at all. It was painful to watch.
General Malaise
Footballguy
Watched "Savages". Enoyed it more than I thought. But...
Stone could have made a decent little action movie that got a B+ score at the theater and made some money. But it's like he made that film and then decided, "I'm oliver stone....this can't be the movie I make!" So he added the rape scene for no apparent reason and took an acceptable ending and tacked on a second ending that was nowhere near satisfying and lacked imagination. Like usual, Del Toro makes a sensational villain. He's really unlikeable and seeing him get his becomes more important then seeing the dealer-duo get out alive (IMO). In one ending, the director tries too hard to let all three of our heros get a shot at the villain. Then in the"real" ending, he gets to drive off while the entire southern fleet of the DEA swoops in and ignores him?
The first ending is stupid as well if for no other reason then the fact that John was outfitted with 12 vials of morphine for a prisoner swap? Even putting that aside, there is no way that was their plan; trading hostages and ending up in the exact same spot they were before with a ticked off drug lord after them. So they were still planning to run to Indonesia after all that? They were going to take an evil drug lord at her word that even though they stole 3 million dollars, killed 7 of her men, and put her daughter in a fridge that she would keep to her word and wouldn't end up beheading them?
A better ending would have been a combo of the two wherein John and Rufus (forgot his name) coordinate with Dennis to have the lady arrested so they can go on with their lives. Similarly unimaginable but very Hollywood andit would have made it a good
If Stone wanted to make something "edgy" he should have explored how two rich 28 year olds are fine with sharing a woman. Why not make them homosexuals as well? Make a movie about people who are committed to each other in every way rather than a movie about two dissimilar guys who don't mind sharing a girl? That didn't work for me. Just make her one of the guy's sister and one of the guy's girlfriend.
And the existential stuff with Ophelia narrating about Savages while walking on the beach was dumb. Once again, seems like Stone wasn't satisfied just making an action movie. The editing was also awful as we learn the definition of IED about 4 times in ninety seconds.Worth watching, 3 out of 4 stars for an action film. Definitely better than Taken 2 and as entertaining as Skyfall. But some missed opportunities for a filmmaker of Stone's ability.How "Oliver Stone-ish" is this movie?I'm not sure you would identify it as a Stone movie if you had heard nothing about it and his name wasn't all throughout the credits. It seems like an action movie made by some ambitious young director who went back later and added some 'color' in an attempt to stand out as edgy. it's entertaining, but it's nothing on the level of Platoon or Any Given Sunday or even UTurn.Good because Platoon was OK, and the others were pretty terrible.
This, only with more vitriol and disbelief. Second dumbest thing I've read today and he has Psycho Freaking Kev to thank for that.
Any Given Sunday is dog ####.
As far as U-Turn goes...I had to look it up to see if I was remembering the right movie. I was. Totally forgettable.
Stone sucks.
Yeah, I can see why you are just sorta OK with Platoon and not in love with it. I mean, afterall, you were there.
General Malaise
Footballguy
I AM ON A ROLL TODAY, BABY! BOOOOOOOOOOO YAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Where's JoeT....I'm on fire!
Officer Pete Malloy
Footballguy
Watched "Savages". Enoyed it more than I thought. But...
Stone could have made a decent little action movie that got a B+ score at the theater and made some money. But it's like he made that film and then decided, "I'm oliver stone....this can't be the movie I make!" So he added the rape scene for no apparent reason and took an acceptable ending and tacked on a second ending that was nowhere near satisfying and lacked imagination. Like usual, Del Toro makes a sensational villain. He's really unlikeable and seeing him get his becomes more important then seeing the dealer-duo get out alive (IMO). In one ending, the director tries too hard to let all three of our heros get a shot at the villain. Then in the"real" ending, he gets to drive off while the entire southern fleet of the DEA swoops in and ignores him?
The first ending is stupid as well if for no other reason then the fact that John was outfitted with 12 vials of morphine for a prisoner swap? Even putting that aside, there is no way that was their plan; trading hostages and ending up in the exact same spot they were before with a ticked off drug lord after them. So they were still planning to run to Indonesia after all that? They were going to take an evil drug lord at her word that even though they stole 3 million dollars, killed 7 of her men, and put her daughter in a fridge that she would keep to her word and wouldn't end up beheading them?
A better ending would have been a combo of the two wherein John and Rufus (forgot his name) coordinate with Dennis to have the lady arrested so they can go on with their lives. Similarly unimaginable but very Hollywood andit would have made it a good
If Stone wanted to make something "edgy" he should have explored how two rich 28 year olds are fine with sharing a woman. Why not make them homosexuals as well? Make a movie about people who are committed to each other in every way rather than a movie about two dissimilar guys who don't mind sharing a girl? That didn't work for me. Just make her one of the guy's sister and one of the guy's girlfriend.
And the existential stuff with Ophelia narrating about Savages while walking on the beach was dumb. Once again, seems like Stone wasn't satisfied just making an action movie. The editing was also awful as we learn the definition of IED about 4 times in ninety seconds.Worth watching, 3 out of 4 stars for an action film. Definitely better than Taken 2 and as entertaining as Skyfall. But some missed opportunities for a filmmaker of Stone's ability.How "Oliver Stone-ish" is this movie?I'm not sure you would identify it as a Stone movie if you had heard nothing about it and his name wasn't all throughout the credits. It seems like an action movie made by some ambitious young director who went back later and added some 'color' in an attempt to stand out as edgy. it's entertaining, but it's nothing on the level of Platoon or Any Given Sunday or even UTurn.Good because Platoon was OK, and the others were pretty terrible.This, only with more vitriol and disbelief. Second dumbest thing I've read today and he has Psycho Freaking Kev to thank for that.
I think you misunderstood. Platoon is "ok" at best. Not great. Certainly not worthy of all the praise and awards it has received over the years.
Any Given Sunday is dog ####.
As far as U-Turn goes...I had to look it up to see if I was remembering the right movie. I was. Totally forgettable.
Stone sucks.
Any Given Sunday is dog ####.
As far as U-Turn goes...I had to look it up to see if I was remembering the right movie. I was. Totally forgettable.
Stone sucks.
Harrrrrrrrrrrrr!
T Bell
Footballguy
Watched "Savages". Enoyed it more than I thought. But...
Stone could have made a decent little action movie that got a B+ score at the theater and made some money. But it's like he made that film and then decided, "I'm oliver stone....this can't be the movie I make!" So he added the rape scene for no apparent reason and took an acceptable ending and tacked on a second ending that was nowhere near satisfying and lacked imagination. Like usual, Del Toro makes a sensational villain. He's really unlikeable and seeing him get his becomes more important then seeing the dealer-duo get out alive (IMO). In one ending, the director tries too hard to let all three of our heros get a shot at the villain. Then in the"real" ending, he gets to drive off while the entire southern fleet of the DEA swoops in and ignores him?
The first ending is stupid as well if for no other reason then the fact that John was outfitted with 12 vials of morphine for a prisoner swap? Even putting that aside, there is no way that was their plan; trading hostages and ending up in the exact same spot they were before with a ticked off drug lord after them. So they were still planning to run to Indonesia after all that? They were going to take an evil drug lord at her word that even though they stole 3 million dollars, killed 7 of her men, and put her daughter in a fridge that she would keep to her word and wouldn't end up beheading them?
A better ending would have been a combo of the two wherein John and Rufus (forgot his name) coordinate with Dennis to have the lady arrested so they can go on with their lives. Similarly unimaginable but very Hollywood andit would have made it a good
If Stone wanted to make something "edgy" he should have explored how two rich 28 year olds are fine with sharing a woman. Why not make them homosexuals as well? Make a movie about people who are committed to each other in every way rather than a movie about two dissimilar guys who don't mind sharing a girl? That didn't work for me. Just make her one of the guy's sister and one of the guy's girlfriend.
And the existential stuff with Ophelia narrating about Savages while walking on the beach was dumb. Once again, seems like Stone wasn't satisfied just making an action movie. The editing was also awful as we learn the definition of IED about 4 times in ninety seconds.Worth watching, 3 out of 4 stars for an action film. Definitely better than Taken 2 and as entertaining as Skyfall. But some missed opportunities for a filmmaker of Stone's ability.How "Oliver Stone-ish" is this movie?
I'm not sure you would identify it as a Stone movie if you had heard nothing about it and his name wasn't all throughout the credits. It seems like an action movie made by some ambitious young director who went back later and added some 'color' in an attempt to stand out as edgy. it's entertaining, but it's nothing on the level of Platoon or Any Given Sunday or even UTurn.
You could not pay me enough money to see U-Turn or Any Given Sunday ever again. What the hell is the matter with you? I realize Stone did all three, but I think even he'll admit the latter two are pure garbage. I honestly don't know a single person - or didn't until just now - that liked U-Turn. I hated that movie like it was an STD dipped in razor blades and set on fire by cobra spit. Any Given Sunday was just an insult to anybody with a modicum of football knowledge.
Does your wife like Platoons?
Abraham
Footballguy
Calm down.
bentley
Footballguy
Maybe you missed my post in the other thread about the fact that songs about songs are pretty much the lowest form of entertainment.
kevzilla
Footballguy
Homer J Simpson
I don't push
I liked U-Turn and find Oliver Stone movies to usually be pretty compelling. Any Given Sunday was trash though.
Frostillicus
Footballguy
They do suicides at My daughters gymnastics. My child is doing conditioning drills before the age of 5. Am I Todd Marinovich's dad?
Homer J Simpson
I don't push
Frostillicus
Footballguy
Crazy Canuck
Footballguy
Oliver Stone wrote Scarface. Just saying.
Mr.Pack
Footballguy
Rustoleum
Footballguy
I wonder how much the local contractors have to do with this? I've had the exact opposite experience as you. I only lose Dish signal in a major storm or the one time we got an ice storm and I had a layer of slush dish. Signal immediately came back. Our first DVR hard drive started failing and I was sent another right away. The only beef I have is I only get Fox Sports OH because of how close to Cincy I am and some UK games were blacked out on alternate channels that my package said I should have.On the other hand, my in-laws had so much trouble with their DirectTV equipment and signal that they went back to cable in under 6 months.
Ignoramus
Footballguy
krista4
Footballguy
Eviloutsider
Footballguy
Good stuff but it's not racist. They picked cotton and learned how it was made, just because ancestors were forced to do it back in the day doesn't mean it's racist, just poor planning knowing of the backlash that might happen. Also, poor parenting as well as she signed off on it.
krista4
Footballguy
Hi. We don't do political discourse in this thread. The thread you're looking for is down the hall.
Frostillicus
Footballguy
General Malaise
Footballguy
Oh, okay...everybody gets to bag on for some of the ridiculous things up post up in here while I largely remain silent and suddenly I have to calm down and relax when I'm just trying to point out the silliness of your comment. It was a little mock outrage, but I guess I'll calm down and restrain myself from busting your balls on here.
Oh, that's not hard to do, I'm an idiot. Fishing me is like screwing a prostitute.
I tried to at least make the thread interesting.
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