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'shuke said:
'JbizzleMan said:
If it should be that I grow frail and weakAnd pain should keep me from my sleep,Then will you do what must be done,For this -- the last battle -- can't be won.

You will be sad I understand,But don't let grief then stay your hand,For on this day, more than the rest,Your love and friendship must stand the test.

We have had so many happy years,You wouldn't want me to suffer so.When the time comes,please, let me go.

Take me where, to my needs they'll tend,Only, stay with me till the endAnd hold me firm and speak to meUntil my eyes no longer see.

I know in time you will agreeIt is a kindness you do to me.Although my tail its last has waved,From pain and suffering I have been saved.

Don't grieve that it must be youWho has to decide this thing to do;We've been so close -- we two -- these years,Don't let your heart hold any tears.

--- Anonymous ---
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Shuke -

Sorry to hear it. With cancer and the age of the dog, I wouldn't wait around too long to euthanize. We had a dog named Kona who died of lymphoma at just over 2 years. He tried to hide his illness by burying his vomit outside, trying to 'pep up' when I came home, etc. Animals instinctively try to hide signs of weakness as it's a sign of easy prey in the wild. So while your dog may show signs of getting better on some days, it's just not the case. It may just be that the cancer isn't attacking as aggressively. Humans with cancer will have good and bad days too. It really sucks. Awful, horrible, terrible disease.

Euthanizing your dog at home will be nearly triple the cost of taking the dog into your vet. Not sure if that's an expense you are willing to justify right now. I certainly understand those who chose to do it that way, but at $800 or so, it's a big expense that a father of two might not have at the moment.

Our second dog Miss Cleo came down with the same damn cancer and received her diagnosis a few days after X-Mas and 2 days after we told our boys about the divorce. My oldest was 5 at the time and there was no way I was taking him with us to see her die. He had spent the past two days trying to deal with the divorce news. He knew she was very sick as she was at a specialist overnight when they found the mass in her lungs. We decided then and there to put her down and not bring her home. A lot of quick decisions had to be made at a time that was just rough and brutal for everybody in our family.

And as sad as it was for my sons (especially the oldest, who is far tougher emotionally than any child I've ever met considering what he went through at that time and how he's turned out in life) it was a learning experience and we were able to offset the tears and heartbreak by doing a couple of things.

First, I had my boys sit in my lap and go through all the pictures on the computer of them with Miss Cleo. We printed out as many as we could find. This allowed them to talk about memories of her, albeit through a lot of tears. Next, I had my boys (my youngest had lost interest soon into this, but my oldest really took to it) create a memory box. I just used an old shoe box, but I let him decorate it, put her collar in there, her dog tags, pictures of her and some pictures that he drew of her. He wasn't old enough to really write too much, but if your son is capable, maybe have him write some words or memories down and put them in the box. My son tucked his into his closet and he's pulled it out a time or two over the years.

Make sure you talk about all the funny stuff your dog did and really yuck it up with them as best you can. You're a funny guy and I'm sure you make your kids laugh. I tell my boys all the time about Miss Cleo eating my shoes, pooping in my car or eating her floor matt that came out the wrong end as a nasty poop covered rope that I had to pull out of her like King Arthur and Excalibur. Laughter cures all. You know this. Good luck, friend. And again, I'm really sorry.

 
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Sorry shuke.

As a first time owner of a 2 year old puppy, I am dreading that day and will never be prepared. I can't even open up any of those "My dog is sick" threads without welling up. And please don't post that poem about all dogs playing in a field waiting for their owners...

:closesofficedoor:

 
'McJose said:
'cosjobs said:
'McJose said:
'charvik said:
'Gambino said:
'charvik said:
'Gambino said:
Next month is 10 years since I last had to wear a tux, but as luck would have it I need to wear one again. I have a charity dinner for work and the dress is "black tie", so I know that means a tux, but does it matter if I wear a bow tie or the regular style black? I really want to avoid a bow tie if I can.
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Yes, it matters.
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A little more help GB?
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yes, you should always wear a bow tie with a dinner jacket/tuxedo. Should be a black bow tie.Not sure what other help to offer?

Wiki explains it very well:

Unlike white tie, which is very strictly regulated, black-tie ensembles can display more variation. In brief, the traditional components are:

A jacket with ribbed silk facings (usually grosgrain) on a shawl collar or peaked lapel (while a notched lapel is a popular modern choice, it is traditionally considered less formal)[8]

Trousers with a single silk or satin braid covering the outer seams

A black cummerbund or a low-cut waistcoat

A white dress shirt (a marcella front is traditional, but other styles are also accepted) with shirt studs (never buttons), French cuffs and cufflinks, and a turn-down or detachable wing collar (the latter now more commonly worn for white tie, but generally considered acceptable for black tie as well)[9]

A black ribbed silk bow tie matching the lapel facings

Shirt studs (optional, depending on the type of shirt) and cufflinks

Black dress socks, usually of silk or fine wool

Black shoes—highly polished or patent leather Oxfords, or patent leather court shoes

Personally I would pass on the cummerbund, and not a fan of shirt studs.
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It's perfectly OK to wear a regular necktie with a tux.I would go with a narrow width but not skinny.

Example

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I do 15 or so weddings a year. I would say that 75% of the time the groom and groomsmen are wearing a straight tie.
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are you heterosexual?
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Why? Are you horny?
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those links might have made me a little randy

 
'shuke said:
'cosjobs said:
anyone here ever have plantar facititis?

Its absolutely killing me. The pain is nearly intolerable. I have steady supply of percocets from my doc for ongoing chronic back pain and I never take more than 3-4/week. But the foot pain has been so intense I am taking 3-4 a day.

I went and saw a podiatrist a few months back when it was in the bottom of my foot and got a cortisone shot. THat killed the pain in the bottom of my foot, but it moved to the bottom of my Achilles tendon. They will not give another shot in the Achilles area and evidently there is nothing else to do but surgery and I am not willing to do that. I am getting some crutches tomorrow and use them to stay off the foot for a week and see if that can at least get the pain down to a bearable level.

I have many many other things culminating in my life right now and the stress is unbelievable. Stir in the constant pain and I am having a very hard time not being a #### to all those around me.

Thoughts or advice?
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Do the stretch shown on this page. You pretty much have to pull your toes back until you think they are going to break. A couple weeks of this stretch ended my years of pain.
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thanks shuke, I will start doing those today.

 
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'cosjobs said:
'shuke said:
'cosjobs said:
anyone here ever have plantar facititis?

Its absolutely killing me. The pain is nearly intolerable. I have steady supply of percocets from my doc for ongoing chronic back pain and I never take more than 3-4/week. But the foot pain has been so intense I am taking 3-4 a day.

I went and saw a podiatrist a few months back when it was in the bottom of my foot and got a cortisone shot. THat killed the pain in the bottom of my foot, but it moved to the bottom of my Achilles tendon. They will not give another shot in the Achilles area and evidently there is nothing else to do but surgery and I am not willing to do that. I am getting some crutches tomorrow and use them to stay off the foot for a week and see if that can at least get the pain down to a bearable level.

I have many many other things culminating in my life right now and the stress is unbelievable. Stir in the constant pain and I am having a very hard time not being a #### to all those around me.

Thoughts or advice?
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Do the stretch shown on this page. You pretty much have to pull your toes back until you think they are going to break. A couple weeks of this stretch ended my years of pain.
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thanks shuke, I will start doing those today.
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do them in your underwear while checking your fantasy baseball team and then please post pics.
 
'shuke said:
'McJose said:
I think it would depend upon how old the kids are. I would say that if they're older than about 6 they understand (in general) what "death" means. I think you just have to let the kids know that your dog isn't happy, is in pain, and really loving the dog means ending that pain.
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We've already had the talk with him about how she is sick, is not going to get better, and is going to die. I am just wondering if we are supposed to explain to him that we are "putting her to sleep".
ETA: I agree...if she's not eating then it is time. Sorry, man.
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The reason I'm hesitant is it's not that straight forward. She stopped eating her food a few weeks ago. She was still eating table scraps that my daughter dropped and I was giving her a bacon treat and milkbone everynight. I also tried a different dry dog food about a week and a half ago, and she ate that for two days then stopped. Again, still eating the other stuff. A couple nights ago, she stopped taking the milkbone after the bacon treat. Yesterday, we gave her a hot dog, which she ate. But today my wife tried giving her one and she didn't want it. So I don't want to rush into doing something, but I don't want to prolong misery either.
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Tough situation Shuke. I think I would tell my kid that I am going to take the dog to the vet who is going to help her die without hurting too much. Takes the onus off of you putting her down, but is still honest.
 
'cosjobs said:
'McJose said:
'cosjobs said:
'McJose said:
'charvik said:
'Gambino said:
'charvik said:
'Gambino said:
Next month is 10 years since I last had to wear a tux, but as luck would have it I need to wear one again. I have a charity dinner for work and the dress is "black tie", so I know that means a tux, but does it matter if I wear a bow tie or the regular style black? I really want to avoid a bow tie if I can.
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Yes, it matters.
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A little more help GB?
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yes, you should always wear a bow tie with a dinner jacket/tuxedo. Should be a black bow tie.Not sure what other help to offer?

Wiki explains it very well:

Unlike white tie, which is very strictly regulated, black-tie ensembles can display more variation. In brief, the traditional components are:

A jacket with ribbed silk facings (usually grosgrain) on a shawl collar or peaked lapel (while a notched lapel is a popular modern choice, it is traditionally considered less formal)[8]

Trousers with a single silk or satin braid covering the outer seams

A black cummerbund or a low-cut waistcoat

A white dress shirt (a marcella front is traditional, but other styles are also accepted) with shirt studs (never buttons), French cuffs and cufflinks, and a turn-down or detachable wing collar (the latter now more commonly worn for white tie, but generally considered acceptable for black tie as well)[9]

A black ribbed silk bow tie matching the lapel facings

Shirt studs (optional, depending on the type of shirt) and cufflinks

Black dress socks, usually of silk or fine wool

Black shoes—highly polished or patent leather Oxfords, or patent leather court shoes

Personally I would pass on the cummerbund, and not a fan of shirt studs.
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It's perfectly OK to wear a regular necktie with a tux.I would go with a narrow width but not skinny.

Example

Example 2

Example 3

Example 4

I do 15 or so weddings a year. I would say that 75% of the time the groom and groomsmen are wearing a straight tie.
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are you heterosexual?
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Why? Are you horny?
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those links might have made me a little randy
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I'll take that as a "yes"
 
Just got the cc bill and there was about 5k worth of unauthorized charges on it. I had my wife call the cc company and they were all to escort services.

neato

 
'urbanhack said:
'St. Louis Bob said:
Just got the cc bill and there was about 5k worth of unauthorized charges on it. I had my wife call the cc company and they were all to escort services.

neato
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were they chicago-based?? :unsure: :excited:
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Actually they were all prior to Chicago so it looks like I may have gotten lucky by losing the card up there. Actually, a bunch of them were out of Wisconsin. :mellow:
'McJose said:
'Good said:
SLB Part 2
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:lmao: jeebus
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:lmao:
 
'fatguyinalittlecoat said:
'shuke said:
'fatguyinalittlecoat said:
How old are your kids, shuke?
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Son is 6. Daughter is 1, so not concerned about her.
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At that age I don't think I'd bring them to the vet. My kids are a similar age and we had to put both of our cats to sleep (at different times) in 2010. What we did was talk to the kids beforehand about how the cat was sick and in pain and that we would put it to sleep and they wouldn't see it again. The kids got to say goodbye. Then when I got home from the vet, we had a little memorial where we tried to remember stuff about the cat and one of my kids drew a picture of the cat that she taped to her wall. That seemed to work pretty well.
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Sorry, Shuke.A few months back my cat died. My four year old boy saw her getting sick, and kept asking if she was going to get better. I said I wasn't sure. My wife and I talked it over and decided for me to take her to be put to sleep when my son was at school. However, I paid the extra dough to have her cremated separately so the ashes would be returned in a modest receptacle (they ran out of Ralph's cans). When my son came home I told him I had to take the cat to the pet hospital. He knew she was sick, so he was ok with it. A few days later, when the ashes arrived, we sat him down on the couch and told him she had passed, and presented him with the box with her ashes. He was sad, but it was a nice, "easy" introduction to death. Having a tangible memorial really helped him. He keeps the ashes on his bookshelf in his room, and after a month or so of talking about it, he's let it go.
 
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'shuke said:
'fatguyinalittlecoat said:
How old are your kids, shuke?
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Son is 6. Daughter is 1, so not concerned about her.
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I don't mean to sound cavalier because it's a serious sensitive subject to be introducing to kids. But both my oldest son (8th grade) and daughter (month shy of 3) went to a preschool where death is a regular part of the curriculum. Not that it's specifically planned that way (at least, the timing) - but we get eggs that hatch into chicks and we have a guinea pig and a rat and several koi fish. When one dies, they talk about what happened, and how it's a natural part of the cycle of life just like when the baby chicks hatched. We ask if they have any questions (e.g., we don't go any further than that unless they want to know more). We don't do anything religious or spiritual just matter of fact.

These kids are three and four years old. Just throwing that out there for your consideration.

All that said, very sorry your family has to go through this - it sucks. Lost several dogs growing up (two hit by car, one had tumors), and it is never easy.

ETA: They also have a little non-religious ceremony and bury the pet in a corner of the playground. Which the maintenance crew of the building found one day (it's on the ground floor of a 45 story high rise). Thankfully when they found dozens of small bones, they called the school director and not NYPD.

 
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'BobbyLayne said:
'shuke said:
'fatguyinalittlecoat said:
How old are your kids, shuke?
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Son is 6. Daughter is 1, so not concerned about her.
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I don't mean to sound cavalier because it's a serious sensitive subject to be introducing to kids. But both my oldest son (8th grade) and daughter (month shy of 3) went to a preschool where death is a regular part of the curriculum. Not that it's specifically planned that way (at least, the timing) - but we get eggs that hatch into chicks and we have a guinea pig and a rat and several koi fish. When one dies, they talk about what happened, and how it's a natural part of the cycle of life just like when the baby chicks hatched. We ask if they have any questions (e.g., we don't go any further than that unless they want to know more). We don't do anything religious or spiritual just matter of fact.

These kids are three and four years old. Just throwing that out there for your consideration.

All that said, very sorry your family has to go through this - it sucks. Lost several dogs growing up (two hit by car, one had tumors), and it is never easy.

ETA: They also have a little non-religious ceremony and bury the pet in a corner of the playground. Which the maintenance crew of the building found one day (it's on the ground floor of a 45 story high rise). Thankfully when they found dozens of small bones, they called the school director and not NYPD.
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Sorry, I'm an idiot...should have read more comments.No, I don't think you should take the six year old. That's tricky...do you let them say goodbye one last time? I never got that chance with two of my dogs (lost all three before age 10). The first dog - longtime family pet from before I was born - was hit by a pickup in front of our house. Dad put Trigger in the bed of his pickup, and let us all go out to see him/say goodbye...before he took him out to the woods. With a gun and a shovel. OK, this would be a great way to scar your kids for life. Charlie Brown, his replacement, got hit a week after I got him for a birthday present. He was a puppy and I imagine he looked a lot worse than ole Trigger, and nobody got a look at him. After that we got Andre. Poodle - #### these labs and big dogs that want to run all over; got maintenance house dog. After about four years, he got cancer/tumors. Mom took him to the vet with my oldest siblings they were in high school by then).

Anyway, good luck. You'll figure out the best way to handle it.

 
anyone have any idea where i could market a Ronnie Van Zant (lynyrd skynyrd) painting?

 
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Now that I've recovered from Vegas, I thought I would share some of the highlights, but with my recent history I'm afraid I'll get another time out, so I'm going to do it in the form of a mad lib.

Hired two ______ who didn't wear any __________ during the draft. Both were very friendly. During the draft, when someone was on the clock one of the __________ would climb onto the guy's ________ and rub her ___________ in his face. The picks that resulted were pretty much random. Between that and the fact that everyone was drunk and most people also ate ______ brownies and also went through a mound of __________, most people's drafts were terrible. I drafted a QB and 3 straight WRs in my first 4 picks.

After the draft one of the ____________ joined us in going out, and ended up __________ one of the guys.

I'll post pics at _________.

 
'kotzwinkle said:
Now that I've recovered from Vegas, I thought I would share some of the highlights, but with my recent history I'm afraid I'll get another time out, so I'm going to do it in the form of a mad lib.Hired two ______ who didn't wear any __________ during the draft. Both were very friendly. During the draft, when someone was on the clock one of the __________ would climb onto the guy's ________ and rub her ___________ in his face. The picks that resulted were pretty much random. Between that and the fact that everyone was drunk and most people also ate ______ brownies and also went through a mound of __________, most people's drafts were terrible. I drafted a QB and 3 straight WRs in my first 4 picks.After the draft one of the ____________ joined us in going out, and ended up __________ one of the guys. I'll post pics at _________.
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i cant read that with all the blank spots.
 
'Oh Yes! said:
'Frostillicus said:
'Oh Yes! said:
'Frostillicus said:
'Oh Yes! said:
anyone have any tips where i could market a Ronnie Van Zant (lynyrd skynyrd) painting?
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The Louvre?
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never heard of it. gotta be some hillbilly message boards or something right?
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It's next door to the Creation Science Museum.
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maybe i should re-phrase this. "any of you guys wanna be my manager/representation?"
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I'll do it.
 
'kotzwinkle said:
Now that I've recovered from Vegas, I thought I would share some of the highlights, but with my recent history I'm afraid I'll get another time out, so I'm going to do it in the form of a mad lib.

Hired two bears who didn't wear any overalls during the draft. Both were very friendly. During the draft, when someone was on the clock one of the bears would climb onto the guy's truck and rub her pussy in his face. The picks that resulted were pretty much random. Between that and the fact that everyone was drunk and most people also ate delicious brownies and also went through a mound of nachos, most people's drafts were terrible. I drafted a QB and 3 straight WRs in my first 4 picks.

After the draft one of then nice ladies joined us in going out, and ended up marrying one of the guys.

I'll post pics at purrs and woofs.
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fixed
 
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