'jplvr said:
'Gadzooks said:
'shuke said:
Jeep> sucks man. I can't believe the doctor won't even listen to him.
This. Doesn't the Doctor have some sort of moral obligation here. Good luck to your friend Jeep.
Since all the replies are on about the same line of thinking, I'll just quote here.That's what I thought as well, but the only interaction the doctor has had with him is when she is in the room. It seems contact about the pregnacy without her knowledge is being avoided by the doctor. My other friend ran into this problem as well during his wife's pregnancy, but he handed the phone to his wife, had her tell the doctor he could discuss anything and everything with her husband, and there were no issues after that. The wife currently in question has told my friend she gave him the same permissions, but it seems she's lying as he's getting stonewalled. The only thing he's been able to do is ask the doctor if he prescrbed her any medications when she was in the room. The reason for the inquiry was he caught her taking pills out of a bottle, which she claimed were prescribed, but apparently the doctor has done no such thing.I wish he could get this crazy woman locked up for the next few months, but it appears most of you are just confused about the lack of action being taken for the sake of baby. I get it "under the law," but I think this is one of those gray areas where the law sucks. It's clear she wants to carry this baby to term, but is doing harm to it along the way.Like I said, they're in couples counseling. They both went to the group session(s), but she cancelled her one on one the first time. She has another one scheduled, so he's hoping she makes this one.I don't want to clutter this thread up with all of this. If anyone has any good advice I might pass along to him, just shoot me a PM.
My take on this may be incorrect and unpopular, but I think you should consider it.Whenever I hear one side of these domestic dramas, it is usually stilted to make the offending party seem much worse than they are. And the picture I see painted here is that she drinks some wine, may have taken a few pain pills and smokes some pot. The only real danger of any of these to the fetus is possibly the wine. And the wine is unknown, as it has yet to be determined at what level alcohol may cause fetal alcohol syndrome (FAS). Obviously no alcohol is safest, but many docs say a glass now and then should be okay, but they (and no one else) yet knows what levels are safe (if any).I guess my point is that if you discount his story a bit, since the wronged spouse almost always exaggerates, it seems very borderline whether she is doing harm to the baby. THe recourse, if she is of imminent threat to herself or others, is to call the cops. If they believe she is a threat, they would likely have her put on a 72 hour hold and evaluate her. He can make that call and the cops may well enforce it, if they observe behavior that poses an imminent risk to the fetus.When he is in the doc's office with her, has straight up asked the doc in front of her about her drinking habits he has observed? That would seems the most straightforward way to deal with it. Ask the doc - in front of her - what actions should be taken to protect the baby.Also, your friend needs to remember that he will be dealing with this woman for the next 20 years while the children grow up. Over-reaction or vindictive behavior will be paid back long-term. The only real concern I see is possibly the alcohol. Be upfront and frank in discussing this with the doc. The mom may be going thru things where she really needs something to chill out. We all know about those needs and preggo moms are no exception. Maybe the doc could give her some valium or zanax or something that pose no threat to the fetus like alcohol does. Its a tough, sticky situation. My main advice would be to be careful. Living with or in the world of a wronged, vindictive woman for 20 years would be the ultimate suck. Best of luck to all concerned.
oh and *: I don't think Germans should count. Isn't this a proper noun or some such? I was taught that capital letter words were not allowed in Scrabble. My parents wouldn't count that. But I'm not above cheating. 
That might be the saddest thread I've seen here.
