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Gadzooks
Footballguy
I love you both.Awwwwwww.Loving your new photo.
Guster
Footballguy
krista4
Footballguy
Neat.You can make some anecdotal link but not a causal one. Anyone else can make anecdotal arguments of the opposite. I'd rarely say I've researched (by researched meaning not my own but reading and analyzing that of others, not doing my own studies) something more than anyone else in this thread, but this might be the only time.Given facts, or even without them, what good comes from making people feel like they've "failed" and therefore will die earlier if they don't have whatever the proper attitude is deemed to be?when I was in grad school, I recall reading quite a few research articles about the positive effects of having a positive attitude with regard to cancer treatment outcomes.
maybe findings have changed. this was 10+ years ago.
that's what I see from a quick google search. so nevermind.
that's what I see from a quick google search. so nevermind.
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Guster
Footballguy
K4, all, thanks for the kind words.
I tend to be overly optimistic. When she first told me about it, I told her it was a good that she had been getting mammograms. When my dad IM'd me the news (their phone was busy b/c my mom was talking with her friends non stop), I wasn't terribly surprised or scared - modern medicine and all that.
A couple things did freak me out a bit though
1. The whole talk about my sister. That's just a bit too fatalistic for me
2. ~80% survival rate. That's pretty high, but still... 4/5, meaning 1/5 don't survive. I hang out with groups of 5+ all the time. I don't want to think that in 5 years one of us would be dead. I know that's not a terrible accurate analogy, but still...
Anyway, thanks again for all the support. It really means a lot to me
I tend to be overly optimistic. When she first told me about it, I told her it was a good that she had been getting mammograms. When my dad IM'd me the news (their phone was busy b/c my mom was talking with her friends non stop), I wasn't terribly surprised or scared - modern medicine and all that.
A couple things did freak me out a bit though
1. The whole talk about my sister. That's just a bit too fatalistic for me
2. ~80% survival rate. That's pretty high, but still... 4/5, meaning 1/5 don't survive. I hang out with groups of 5+ all the time. I don't want to think that in 5 years one of us would be dead. I know that's not a terrible accurate analogy, but still...
Anyway, thanks again for all the support. It really means a lot to me
krista4
Footballguy
I don't care much. GBG's mom has an issue and will get better or worse, most likely much better, with treatment, and I think we'll agree that we both fervently wish for the latter!Frankly it's not the first time you're wrong in that Piece is clearly the best pizza in Chicago.
Also, let's all move to Seattle! (Second interview now scheduled for Friday.)
by the time you move here, I'll probably be gone. only 4.5 months left.
Gadzooks
Footballguy
I want this too. But I think there has been enough said here today (SLB breaking neck and becoming impotent, Picture of Homer's camel toe, YSR admitting her love for me, terrorists messing with the "last viewed post" option, etc) Poor Egan will never be able to give a proper summary of the day's events. K4: if there is anyway the "peeing in my house" could be posted around my lunch time, I will send you freeze pops.
Gadzooks
Footballguy
I love you (and your magic outer space hair)
cosjobs
Footballguy
I do not think this is what's going on at all and if that is how my first post was interpreted, I am obviously doing a real ####ty job of supporting my good friend gusher. No one has failed, imo, his mother is under great stress and appears to be exhibiting some delusional behavior. I cannot imagine what she has been thru losing a teenage daughter and possibly the emotional baggage she's been carrying all this time. Our brains/minds/emotions concoct really weird reactions to abnormal circumstances. Again, not failure or blame, but how we survive and protect ourselves. My hope in what I wrote was that maybe gentle nudging by loved ones could help gushmom to face her situation more rationally and positively.Neat.You can make some anecdotal link but not a causal one. Anyone else can make anecdotal arguments of the opposite. I'd rarely say I've researched (by researched meaning not my own but reading and analyzing that of others, not doing my own studies) something more than anyone else in this thread, but this might be the only time.when I was in grad school, I recall reading quite a few research articles about the positive effects of having a positive attitude with regard to cancer treatment outcomes.
Given facts, or even without them, what good comes from making people feel like they've "failed" and therefore will die earlier if they don't have whatever the proper attitude is deemed to be?
Guster
Footballguy
One other thing and then I'm done being a boat anchor...
This isn't my first brush with breast cancer this year - my ex-wife had a pretty big scare a monthor two ago where she went through multiple scans that showed show darkness or whatever and eventually they went in to do a biopsy and found it was some sort of a cyst thing that might have been related to nursing. Adding to the scare factor was the fact that her mom had pretty major breast cancer and had to have a double masectomy and chemo I think to get rid of it
That was a scary little stretch thinking that I might have to raise my daughter on my own and that she wouldn't really get to low her mom
Needless to say, this all leaves me a little paranoid for my daughter and her health as she grow up
Ladies of GMTAN and those with spouses/significant others, don't forget to get your ####### checked frequently
This isn't my first brush with breast cancer this year - my ex-wife had a pretty big scare a monthor two ago where she went through multiple scans that showed show darkness or whatever and eventually they went in to do a biopsy and found it was some sort of a cyst thing that might have been related to nursing. Adding to the scare factor was the fact that her mom had pretty major breast cancer and had to have a double masectomy and chemo I think to get rid of it
That was a scary little stretch thinking that I might have to raise my daughter on my own and that she wouldn't really get to low her mom
Needless to say, this all leaves me a little paranoid for my daughter and her health as she grow up
Ladies of GMTAN and those with spouses/significant others, don't forget to get your ####### checked frequently
krista4
Footballguy
Not that it's going to make you completely comfortable, but my understanding has been that Stage 1 is nearer to 90% than 80% in terms of survival. Survival as you know is on a five-year scale, which is especially less dire when you consider that cancer will affect older people differently. Don't know how old your mom is. I don't know--hate to make light of it at all but guess I will--but I think I have a lower rate of survival than that in 5 years of Memphis car travel.Seriously I do think that if you take into account whatever your mom's age is and then what this survival rate is, you might not find a huge difference in expectations. Not that does NOT mean you should feel necessarily great but it means that we have to deal with our parents' or other relatives' and friends' mortality much better than we as a culture do.Don't know what to say about your sister. The "feeling" and non-logical part is beyond me and feels like bull#### that people use to try to make sense of things that don't make sense.K4, all, thanks for the kind words. I tend to be overly optimistic. When she first told me about it, I told her it was a good that she had been getting mammograms. When my dad IM'd me the news (their phone was busy b/c my mom was talking with her friends non stop), I wasn't terribly surprised or scared - modern medicine and all that. A couple things did freak me out a bit though1. The whole talk about my sister. That's just a bit too fatalistic for me2. ~80% survival rate. That's pretty high, but still... 4/5, meaning 1/5 don't survive. I hang out with groups of 5+ all the time. I don't want to think that in 5 years one of us would be dead. I know that's not a terrible accurate analogy, but still...Anyway, thanks again for all the support. It really means a lot to me
cosjobs
Footballguy
butt out. I thought your buzzard ### was busy circling SLB's widow-to-be.I love you both.Awwwwwww.
krista4
Footballguy
I agree with everything you've said.I do not think this is what's going on at all and if that is how my first post was interpreted, I am obviously doing a real ####ty job of supporting my good friend gusher. No one has failed, imo, his mother is under great stress and appears to be exhibiting some delusional behavior. I cannot imagine what she has been thru losing a teenage daughter and possibly the emotional baggage she's been carrying all this time. Our brains/minds/emotions concoct really weird reactions to abnormal circumstances. Again, not failure or blame, but how we survive and protect ourselves. My hope in what I wrote was that maybe gentle nudging by loved ones could help gushmom to face her situation more rationally and positively.Neat.You can make some anecdotal link but not a causal one. Anyone else can make anecdotal arguments of the opposite. I'd rarely say I've researched (by researched meaning not my own but reading and analyzing that of others, not doing my own studies) something more than anyone else in this thread, but this might be the only time.when I was in grad school, I recall reading quite a few research articles about the positive effects of having a positive attitude with regard to cancer treatment outcomes.
Given facts, or even without them, what good comes from making people feel like they've "failed" and therefore will die earlier if they don't have whatever the proper attitude is deemed to be?
Guster
Footballguy
Took your post in a positive, encouraging manner, so no worries GB. I think my mom is just freaking out a little bit because the only time she's even been admitted to a hospital was for the birth of her two kids. Aside from some thyroid issues 10iah years ago, she's been freakishly healthy. Obviously she's never gotten over the loss of my sister despite some counciling and group therapy things, but I can't really say I blame her.I do not think this is what's going on at all and if that is how my first post was interpreted, I am obviously doing a real ####ty job of supporting my good friend gusher. No one has failed, imo, his mother is under great stress and appears to be exhibiting some delusional behavior. I cannot imagine what she has been thru losing a teenage daughter and possibly the emotional baggage she's been carrying all this time. Our brains/minds/emotions concoct really weird reactions to abnormal circumstances. Again, not failure or blame, but how we survive and protect ourselves. My hope in what I wrote was that maybe gentle nudging by loved ones could help gushmom to face her situation more rationally and positively.Neat.You can make some anecdotal link but not a causal one. Anyone else can make anecdotal arguments of the opposite. I'd rarely say I've researched (by researched meaning not my own but reading and analyzing that of others, not doing my own studies) something more than anyone else in this thread, but this might be the only time.when I was in grad school, I recall reading quite a few research articles about the positive effects of having a positive attitude with regard to cancer treatment outcomes.
Given facts, or even without them, what good comes from making people feel like they've "failed" and therefore will die earlier if they don't have whatever the proper attitude is deemed to be?
Guster
Footballguy
Ha. The funny thing is that the logical part of my brain was actually trying to figure out what her 5-year life expectancy would be w/o this diagnosis. She's mid-60's now, so it's not like she has infinity in front of her.Not that it's going to make you completely comfortable, but my understanding has been that Stage 1 is nearer to 90% than 80% in terms of survival. Survival as you know is on a five-year scale, which is especially less dire when you consider that cancer will affect older people differently. Don't know how old your mom is. I don't know--hate to make light of it at all but guess I will--but I think I have a lower rate of survival than that in 5 years of Memphis car travel.Seriously I do think that if you take into account whatever your mom's age is and then what this survival rate is, you might not find a huge difference in expectations. Not that does NOT mean you should feel necessarily great but it means that we have to deal with our parents' or other relatives' and friends' mortality much better than we as a culture do.Don't know what to say about your sister. The "feeling" and non-logical part is beyond me and feels like bull#### that people use to try to make sense of things that don't make sense.K4, all, thanks for the kind words. I tend to be overly optimistic. When she first told me about it, I told her it was a good that she had been getting mammograms. When my dad IM'd me the news (their phone was busy b/c my mom was talking with her friends non stop), I wasn't terribly surprised or scared - modern medicine and all that. A couple things did freak me out a bit though1. The whole talk about my sister. That's just a bit too fatalistic for me2. ~80% survival rate. That's pretty high, but still... 4/5, meaning 1/5 don't survive. I hang out with groups of 5+ all the time. I don't want to think that in 5 years one of us would be dead. I know that's not a terrible accurate analogy, but still...Anyway, thanks again for all the support. It really means a lot to me
Gadzooks
Footballguy
Yes it's true the Cat Shirt's widow will one day be getting minutes of borderline pleasure from making awkward monkey love to me. However, my love for you 2 and everyone else here (even Tanner) is very strong and I feel like that needs to be expressed from time to time.butt out. I thought your buzzard ### was busy circling SLB's widow-to-be.I love you both.Awwwwwww.
Tecumseh
Footballguy
A little while back, my 9yr old found the pic of the 23yr old's bewbs on my phone, and promptly showed it to my wife. That was fun.This is the most I've posted about b00bs in a while without providing pics... Just feels wrong
Frostillicus
Footballguy
Hey GB Guster - I want you to know that because of your post and despite my wife being very healthy since I've met her I spent the last 10 minutes making sure she didn't have breast cancer. I didn't find anything after careful checking, but I'm glad you reminded me to check. Good luck and god bless.
Guster
Footballguy
Weird, she just sent me a text asking for a second opinion
Frostillicus
Footballguy
Makes a lot of sense.Weird, she just sent me a text asking for a second opinion
bentley
Footballguy
Well said. Now, how do we make this about Woz?
shuke
Black Ice Skeptic
Nightmares
Samuel L Bronkowitz
Footballguy
Sorry to hear Guster :(
shuke
Black Ice Skeptic
shuke
Black Ice Skeptic
eaganwildcats
Footballguy
August 1st Update:
The “Go to Last Unread Post” button mysteriously ceased working. TexasFan’s revenge.
JaxBill also finds himself on the injury report after smashing his knee into a tree at the end of the zipline.
Mr. Krista, most well-known for his long locks and hate for shots – peed on Krista’s cat.
Tanner has many aliases. None, however, are in the top 10 for posts in GMTAN. Almost half of –Fish-‘s posts have come in GMTAN.
Pedicures may be acceptable, for men, if any of the following conditions are met: the pedicurist is topless, you can drink, or you are already drunk.
Homer.
Many T&P go out to Guster and his family after finding out his mom has breast cancer. K4 and others dropping knowledge.
The “Go to Last Unread Post” button mysteriously ceased working. TexasFan’s revenge.
JaxBill also finds himself on the injury report after smashing his knee into a tree at the end of the zipline.
Mr. Krista, most well-known for his long locks and hate for shots – peed on Krista’s cat.
Tanner has many aliases. None, however, are in the top 10 for posts in GMTAN. Almost half of –Fish-‘s posts have come in GMTAN.
Pedicures may be acceptable, for men, if any of the following conditions are met: the pedicurist is topless, you can drink, or you are already drunk.
Homer.
Many T&P go out to Guster and his family after finding out his mom has breast cancer. K4 and others dropping knowledge.
shuke
Black Ice Skeptic
Sorry to hear, bro. Best of luck.So, I just found out that my mom has breast cancerAt least it's the "good" kind - stage I, hormone responsiveI talked to her on the phone for a bit and IMed with my dadShe definitely put on a bit of a brave face for me, but I think talking to some of her friends (one of which is a retired nurse) helped her a bit too. She's getting a lumpectomy and starts radiation in mid-August, but I'm sure it'll be a stressful couple of weeks for herIn talking with my dad, I got a slightly different side of how she's feeling...I could ramble through all the details, but here's the jist of it:When I was 12, my sister (4.5 years older) was crossing the street and was hit and killed by a guy that ran a redAccording to my dad, my mom thinks that this diagnosis is my sister saying that she misses my mom and wants them to be together againI'm not really religious (being raised in a super Irish-catholic family and having religion shoved down your throat all your life will do that to a guy), but I'm not going to scream blasphemy or anything if she brings it upAnyway, thanks for letting me get this off my chest. Somehow it's easier to confide in you guys at times than real world friends.
Mr. Pickles
Footballguy
Good sesh, shuke.
Guster
Footballguy
A little part of me hopes that you never get a job
Idiot Boxer
Footballguy
Many/most of you know that my wife was diagnosed with breast cancer in June 2009. She had double mastectomy/reconstruction in February 2010. She kicked its ### and looks better than ever.If you have any questions about the treatments/process, feel free to PM me.Also, while it may be strictly anecdotal, attitude plays a HUGE role in the healing process.
Ignoramus
Footballguy
Mine did too. Turns out, she thought it was some mechanical thing that did all the work for you.My wife bought a Shake Weight
She used in once for about 15 seconds and the things been a paperweight ever since.
urbanhack
Fight The Power!
Mr. Pickles
Footballguy
Okay, NOW it's gambling.
Notorious T.R.E.
Showdown!™ Administrator
when I was in grad school, I recall reading quite a few research articles about the positive effects of having a positive attitude with regard to cancer treatment outcomes. It's been awhile but I thought it was accepted. Feeling better/more optimistic mentally is usually better for you physically.
eaganwildcats
Footballguy
Only two weeks left.A little part of me hopes that you never get a job
So long, summer. Made the list though. 
YSR
Footballguy
TPW, Guster. My mother is 13 years cancer-free and hers was a good bit further along than your mom's. They got aggressive with her treatment and 6 months later, she was fine. One thing to note was that I saw my big strong dad as vulnerable for the first time in my life. It tore me up inside.
While it's perhaps not scientific, I don't think that a positive mental attitude ever hurt anyone, so do what you can for your mom.
While it's perhaps not scientific, I don't think that a positive mental attitude ever hurt anyone, so do what you can for your mom.
Guster
Footballguy
Whataburger?
eaganwildcats
Footballguy
Big Kahuna Burger.Whataburger?
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