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[Guster]

What is Monkey Bread?

according to wikipedia, it's " a sweet, sticky, gooey pastry served in the United States for breakfast. It consists of pieces of soft bread with cinnamon sprinkled on it."

My link

I asked for special food requests and Guster responded with monkey bread. Ive never had nor heard of it so i googled it. The typical recipe is canned biscuits dipped in butter, tehn cinnamon & sugar and place in a bundy pan. You fill up the pan, then bake it. SO that's how I will be making it, except I will use real biscuits rather than canned.

You cut the biscuits into small pieces, roll them in ball shapes and then toss them in a cinnamon sugar mixture. I also usually pack chopped pecans in the bottom of the bundt pan and melted butter/brown sugar/cinnamon with more pecans between each layer. At the end, once it's cooked and set, you flip the bundt pan over and drizzle glaze (or more of the butter/brown sugar/cinnamon mixture) over the top of the thing. Let it sit for a couple more minutes or else you'll burn your hands and your mouth and then :drool:

 

[Guster]

Oh, cos > do you need a world class recipe for bloody mary's? I think I may have posted one in here at some point, but I can dig it up again if needed/requested

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Oh, cos > do you need a world class recipe for bloody mary's? I think I may have posted one in here at some point, but I can dig it up again if needed/requested

Similar to nacho recipes imo.

 

[ScottNorwood]

Update

Spoiler

This has been another rough day, but there are some bright spots.I went first thing to a potential customer who wanted us to do some assembly work. The work is the type we would do in house instead of farming out. I did it for 90 minutes before thinking "WTF am I doing here?" Even doubling my speed it would still come in at about $15/hour and I don't have the in-house resources to commit to it anyway. So I talked to the owner and we parted ways. Definite downer as i hoped adding that to our portfolio would be a good idea, but in the end it would have cost us more than it's worth.Finally told my parents what's going on and they are concerned. My mother thinks I need to find someone to talk to asap and offered to pay for it. We'll see.Wife finally backed off the divorce talk and said she isn't going anywhere but she needs me to shape up and act like a man in the family instead of a selfish brat. I couldn't agree more.Friend at one big local company put me in touch with his best friend who is a top-salesmaker at another big company. The friend gets $2k for everyone he helps get hired on and he is going to talk to me by week's end about trying to get in the door there.ANd finally, I sent a note to an old friend who owns a smallish tech company here in town. I saw him twice around Christmas and he was friendly. He had tried to hire me when I left my last job to start this company. i emailed him saying I was looking and he replied right back with his company President copied saying they would like to speak with me.I am still having trouble understanding how much I'm worth. I was thinking any job that paid 80-90k would be awesome. Wife (who is probably right) told me, "Do NOT be an idiot. You are 35 and have experience at all levels of sales in a number of sectors as well as management and general dealing with the bull#### of starting your own company. If you take a job for less than 100k then you are an idiot." So, that's today. About to head home and not drink.

 

[Josie Maran]

Oh, cos > do you need a world class recipe for bloody mary's? I think I may have posted one in here at some point, but I can dig it up again if needed/requested

Similar to nacho recipes imo.

World class bloody marys ALWAYS include Velveeta.

 

[ScottNorwood]

Oh, cos > do you need a world class recipe for bloody mary's? I think I may have posted one in here at some point, but I can dig it up again if needed/requested

Similar to nacho recipes imo.

World class bloody marys ALWAYS include Velveeta.

OH DEAR GOD WHAT HAVE YOU WROUGHT??!?!?!?

 

[Guster]

Oh, cos > do you need a world class recipe for bloody mary's? I think I may have posted one in here at some point, but I can dig it up again if needed/requested

Similar to nacho recipes imo.

World class bloody marys ALWAYS include Velveeta.

OH DEAR GOD WHAT HAVE YOU WROUGHT??!?!?!?

Nothing wrong with a cheese cube as garnish though

 

[St. Louis Bob]

To avoid hippiling:

Cool story OPM. I played poker with the same 4 guys since I was 12 until 18. Some other guys would get in and out of the game. We tried something similar at 17 but I think after a month we blew the money on weed.

Mrs. SLB has been arguing with her "best friend" for about two months now. Her "best friend" really is at fault but they are both stubborn as mules. I thought about doing something to get them back together but decided against it. Another GB asked us out to dinner Saturday night and I agreed. Last night, Mrs. SLB asked me if this was a set up to get her and her "best friend" back together. She knows me that well which is truly scary.

On another note, I left the office right at 5 tonight. Mrs. SLB wanted me to be home by 6:15 to keep an eye on Shredder since it is Boy Scout night. I really was busy at work but I had stuff to do. I walked to my car, then walked back inside and told my Dad that "if you talk to my wife or one of the boys by chance, I'm still here or just left, I have some business to take care of". He smiled and nodded. That was it. No fifth degree. Love my Dad too.

 

[strykerpks]

Last night, Mrs. SLB asked me if this was a set up to get her and her "best friend" back together. She knows me that well which is truly scary.

Yet you regifted her own jewelry

 

[kevzilla]

I have booked my next trip to Adult Disneyland. I'm meeting a bunch of people from my other message board.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

kevzilla's some kinda iSlut, eh?

 

[Tiger Fan]

Oh, cos > do you need a world class recipe for bloody mary's? I think I may have posted one in here at some point, but I can dig it up again if needed/requested

Similar to nacho recipes imo.

you couldn't be more wrong on both accounts....but more on the bloody mary's

 

[kevzilla]

kevzilla's some kinda iSlut, eh?

Oh, I'm easy. But I am not cheap.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Oh, cos > do you need a world class recipe for bloody mary's? I think I may have posted one in here at some point, but I can dig it up again if needed/requested

Similar to nacho recipes imo.

you couldn't be more wrong on both accounts....but more on the bloody mary's

People could screw up either, but you'd have to be an idiot.

 

[St. Louis Bob]

Last night, Mrs. SLB asked me if this was a set up to get her and her "best friend" back together. She knows me that well which is truly scary.

Yet you regifted her own jewelry

She knows me better than I know myself, I never said she has a great memory. Although Saturday I was angry because she was pissing money again (I got it rectified) and she said, I'll just return the jewelry you gave me. Ruh Roh. I weaseled out of that too. It's what separates us. Except the weasel.

 

[St. Louis Bob]

kevzilla's some kinda iSlut, eh?

Nice to see you around TU.

 

[krista4]

OMFG. I'm on final countdown to quitting my job no matter what, and since it's less than 60 days I think I can do it, but they are ####### trying my ####### patience more every day. The satisfaction of a "screw y'all, I'm outta here" is rapidly approaching the satisfaction of the various bonuses involved in staying until 3/15. Countdown clock is on, though.Oh, and if just the job weren't bad enough...right now I have nine people reporting to me (and two open positions). Of the nine I'm currently managing, the number who have cancer that we know of is...three. In addition to the lawyer with early-stage colon cancer, today I found out a paralegal has early stage lung cancer and a manager has a leukemia that will keep him in the hospital for the next month. Our team is increasingly devastated by illness, physical and emotional. Awful.

 

[charvik]

OMFG. I'm on final countdown to quitting my job no matter what, and since it's less than 60 days I think I can do it, but they are ####### trying my ####### patience more every day. The satisfaction of a "screw y'all, I'm outta here" is rapidly approaching the satisfaction of the various bonuses involved in staying until 3/15. Countdown clock is on, though.Oh, and if just the job weren't bad enough...right now I have nine people reporting to me (and two open positions). Of the nine I'm currently managing, the number who have cancer that we know of is...three. In addition to the lawyer with early-stage colon cancer, today I found out a paralegal has early stage lung cancer and a manager has a leukemia that will keep him in the hospital for the next month. Our team is increasingly devastated by illness, physical and emotional. Awful.

Well, only 9 days to coshole, surely you can make it that long? Then there's only 39 more days to go... could always have a couple of days off in the middle. It's more of a screw y'all to just stick around for the bonus, and then take off.

 

[ScottNorwood]

OMFG. I'm on final countdown to quitting my job no matter what, and since it's less than 60 days I think I can do it, but they are ####### trying my ####### patience more every day. The satisfaction of a "screw y'all, I'm outta here" is rapidly approaching the satisfaction of the various bonuses involved in staying until 3/15. Countdown clock is on, though.

Oh, and if just the job weren't bad enough...right now I have nine people reporting to me (and two open positions). Of the nine I'm currently managing, the number who have cancer that we know of is...three. In addition to the lawyer with early-stage colon cancer, today I found out a paralegal has early stage lung cancer and a manager has a leukemia that will keep him in the hospital for the next month. Our team is increasingly devastated by illness, physical and emotional. Awful.

Sounds like a toxic environment, literally

 

[Frostillicus]

Oh, cos > do you need a world class recipe for bloody mary's? I think I may have posted one in here at some point, but I can dig it up again if needed/requested

I'll take it.

 

[St. Louis Bob]

OMFG. I'm on final countdown to quitting my job no matter what, and since it's less than 60 days I think I can do it, but they are ####### trying my ####### patience more every day. The satisfaction of a "screw y'all, I'm outta here" is rapidly approaching the satisfaction of the various bonuses involved in staying until 3/15. Countdown clock is on, though.Oh, and if just the job weren't bad enough...right now I have nine people reporting to me (and two open positions). Of the nine I'm currently managing, the number who have cancer that we know of is...three. In addition to the lawyer with early-stage colon cancer, today I found out a paralegal has early stage lung cancer and a manager has a leukemia that will keep him in the hospital for the next month. Our team is increasingly devastated by illness, physical and emotional. Awful.

Dang. That sucks GB. :(The Influenza has been going around....

 

[krista4]

1. We have three litterboxes--one for a sick old cat that has to be kept separate and the other two for the other cats. We're putting our house on the market Friday so I went to Target today to buy three fresh new litterboxes.2. I have a paralegal who always keep those peanut butter/cracker little six-packs in her desk, one package of which I steal about once a week. While at Target, I remembered finally to pick up a bunch of cases of these crackers to repay the paralegal for three years worth of pilfering.3. I haven't been wearing my wedding ring, because I am fat.1+2+3 = that look on the cashier's face? Pure pity.

why do you have cats?

Because every time one us tries to buy a baby wombat, Tanner goes off and tells the Feds.

I was torn between "what a ####### question" and something along these lines, except for some reason I thought it was a wallaby.

1. We have three litterboxes--one for a sick old cat that has to be kept separate and the other two for the other cats. We're putting our house on the market Friday so I went to Target today to buy three fresh new litterboxes.2. I have a paralegal who always keep those peanut butter/cracker little six-packs in her desk, one package of which I steal about once a week. While at Target, I remembered finally to pick up a bunch of cases of these crackers to repay the paralegal for three years worth of pilfering.3. I haven't been wearing my wedding ring, because I am fat.1+2+3 = that look on the cashier's face? Pure pity.

Successful trip to Granada?Cos, what (if any) is the dress code at coshole's Saturday Night On The Town eatery?One more day of Gamma rays this week, then a break to see where we are. E-cigs are going well; still mixing in regulars but am gaining ground. My biggest problem is 30 years of taking breaks to "get away from the desk for a few to think about things" habit is hard to break. I think I mentioned I can't use the e-cig like a regular, but I need to try to do some kind of bastardized version of "gaftdfafttat".Tanner, loved the story about your dad's poker buddies.

All well; Julio is rocking it for now, so very happy with that.How long will it take to know where you are now?

Update

Spoiler

This has been another rough day, but there are some bright spots.I went first thing to a potential customer who wanted us to do some assembly work. The work is the type we would do in house instead of farming out. I did it for 90 minutes before thinking "WTF am I doing here?" Even doubling my speed it would still come in at about $15/hour and I don't have the in-house resources to commit to it anyway. So I talked to the owner and we parted ways. Definite downer as i hoped adding that to our portfolio would be a good idea, but in the end it would have cost us more than it's worth.Finally told my parents what's going on and they are concerned. My mother thinks I need to find someone to talk to asap and offered to pay for it. We'll see.Wife finally backed off the divorce talk and said she isn't going anywhere but she needs me to shape up and act like a man in the family instead of a selfish brat. I couldn't agree more.Friend at one big local company put me in touch with his best friend who is a top-salesmaker at another big company. The friend gets $2k for everyone he helps get hired on and he is going to talk to me by week's end about trying to get in the door there.ANd finally, I sent a note to an old friend who owns a smallish tech company here in town. I saw him twice around Christmas and he was friendly. He had tried to hire me when I left my last job to start this company. i emailed him saying I was looking and he replied right back with his company President copied saying they would like to speak with me.I am still having trouble understanding how much I'm worth. I was thinking any job that paid 80-90k would be awesome. Wife (who is probably right) told me, "Do NOT be an idiot. You are 35 and have experience at all levels of sales in a number of sectors as well as management and general dealing with the bull#### of starting your own company. If you take a job for less than 100k then you are an idiot." So, that's today. About to head home and not drink.

I have a bit less sympathy for your wife after reading this. "You need to get a regular job" but "it has to be at a salary I find acceptable" seems a little #####y, but I guess I don't know what you guys have been through.

I haven't been wearing my wedding ring, because I am fat.

Do you at least 'try harder' now?

Surprised it took this long for this post?

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Glad I wasn't the only one who thought that comment from Herd wife was ridiculous.

 

[charvik]

Glad I wasn't the only one who thought that comment from Herd wife was ridiculous.

I thought it was more a "do not sell yourself short" comment.When I saw the numbers and comparison, I thought it sounded low too.

 

[krista4]

1. We have three litterboxes--one for a sick old cat that has to be kept separate and the other two for the other cats. We're putting our house on the market Friday so I went to Target today to buy three fresh new litterboxes.2. I have a paralegal who always keep those peanut butter/cracker little six-packs in her desk, one package of which I steal about once a week. While at Target, I remembered finally to pick up a bunch of cases of these crackers to repay the paralegal for three years worth of pilfering.3. I haven't been wearing my wedding ring, because I am fat.1+2+3 = that look on the cashier's face? Pure pity.

Have you gotten a new job yet?

Job update:1. Milwaukee still in progress.2. Supposed to hear something on Phoenix next week. They had expressed a strong preference for local candidates, but this is the "best" job among them so I'm still hoping for something good on it.3. Portland nothing yet after interview 1/13.4. Going to Stamford for next round on Feb. 8 (they changed Skype interviews to in-person).5. Had first-round interview today for job in Toronto area, but that apparently I could decide to do in other locales (Chicago a good option). Felt it went well. Should hear about next round in 2 weeks.6. Got call yesterday about appealing job in Chicago. Heavy preference for local candidates, but I tried to relay why I could be considered almost "local". Awaiting next steps.7. Have final(?) interview on Friday for job I could do in Chicago, Atlanta, or possibly other locales. Probably will be lowest on comp but with lots of schedule/location flexibility, so very appealing.8. Various other stuff in earlier stages. Haven't had time to look for other opportunities in a while. As much as I hate my job, still being very selective at this point.

 

[krista4]

I have booked my next trip to Adult Disneyland. I'm meeting a bunch of people from my other message board.

 

[Frostillicus]

I have booked my next trip to Adult Disneyland. I'm meeting a bunch of people from my other message board.

Fans of Kid from Kid and Play forum, imo.

 

[krista4]

OMFG. I'm on final countdown to quitting my job no matter what, and since it's less than 60 days I think I can do it, but they are ####### trying my ####### patience more every day. The satisfaction of a "screw y'all, I'm outta here" is rapidly approaching the satisfaction of the various bonuses involved in staying until 3/15. Countdown clock is on, though.

Oh, and if just the job weren't bad enough...right now I have nine people reporting to me (and two open positions). Of the nine I'm currently managing, the number who have cancer that we know of is...three. In addition to the lawyer with early-stage colon cancer, today I found out a paralegal has early stage lung cancer and a manager has a leukemia that will keep him in the hospital for the next month. Our team is increasingly devastated by illness, physical and emotional. Awful.

Well, only 9 days to coshole, surely you can make it that long? Then there's only 39 more days to go... could always have a couple of days off in the middle. It's more of a screw y'all to just stick around for the bonus, and then take off.

OMFG. I'm on final countdown to quitting my job no matter what, and since it's less than 60 days I think I can do it, but they are ####### trying my ####### patience more every day. The satisfaction of a "screw y'all, I'm outta here" is rapidly approaching the satisfaction of the various bonuses involved in staying until 3/15. Countdown clock is on, though.

Oh, and if just the job weren't bad enough...right now I have nine people reporting to me (and two open positions). Of the nine I'm currently managing, the number who have cancer that we know of is...three. In addition to the lawyer with early-stage colon cancer, today I found out a paralegal has early stage lung cancer and a manager has a leukemia that will keep him in the hospital for the next month. Our team is increasingly devastated by illness, physical and emotional. Awful.

Sounds like a toxic environment, literally

Both of these are great postings.

OMFG. I'm on final countdown to quitting my job no matter what, and since it's less than 60 days I think I can do it, but they are ####### trying my ####### patience more every day. The satisfaction of a "screw y'all, I'm outta here" is rapidly approaching the satisfaction of the various bonuses involved in staying until 3/15. Countdown clock is on, though.

Oh, and if just the job weren't bad enough...right now I have nine people reporting to me (and two open positions). Of the nine I'm currently managing, the number who have cancer that we know of is...three. In addition to the lawyer with early-stage colon cancer, today I found out a paralegal has early stage lung cancer and a manager has a leukemia that will keep him in the hospital for the next month. Our team is increasingly devastated by illness, physical and emotional. Awful.

Dang. That sucks GB. :( The Influenza has been going around....

And this is just nice, too.

Glad I wasn't the only one who thought that comment from Herd wife was ridiculous.

I thought it was more a "do not sell yourself short" comment.When I saw the numbers and comparison, I thought it sounded low too.

Maybe I just read/interpreted it wrong. Sounded like an "I'm not going to be happy no matter what" thing, but I might have been reading too much into it.

 

[strykerpks]

Glad I wasn't the only one who thought that comment from Herd wife was ridiculous.

My first thought was of Dennis Quaid's wife in Any Given Sunday

 

[krista4]

I have booked my next trip to Adult Disneyland. I'm meeting a bunch of people from my other message board.

Fans of Kid from Kid and Play forum, imo.

 

[charvik]

I have booked my next trip to Adult Disneyland. I'm meeting a bunch of people from my other message board.

Fans of Kid from Kid and Play forum, imo.

too much issues over at the freshforcecrew.com forum nowadays, with the "new" moderating policy... but of course, Chris Reid is still claiming "it's the same as day one"

 

[krista4]

I have booked my next trip to Adult Disneyland. I'm meeting a bunch of people from my other message board.

Fans of Kid from Kid and Play forum, imo.

too much issues over at the freshforcecrew.com forum nowadays, with the "new" moderating policy... but of course, Chris Reid is still claiming "it's the same as day one"

Also

 

[charvik]

OMFG. I'm on final countdown to quitting my job no matter what, and since it's less than 60 days I think I can do it, but they are ####### trying my ####### patience more every day. The satisfaction of a "screw y'all, I'm outta here" is rapidly approaching the satisfaction of the various bonuses involved in staying until 3/15. Countdown clock is on, though.

Oh, and if just the job weren't bad enough...right now I have nine people reporting to me (and two open positions). Of the nine I'm currently managing, the number who have cancer that we know of is...three. In addition to the lawyer with early-stage colon cancer, today I found out a paralegal has early stage lung cancer and a manager has a leukemia that will keep him in the hospital for the next month. Our team is increasingly devastated by illness, physical and emotional. Awful.

Well, only 9 days to coshole, surely you can make it that long? Then there's only 39 more days to go... could always have a couple of days off in the middle. It's more of a screw y'all to just stick around for the bonus, and then take off.

OMFG. I'm on final countdown to quitting my job no matter what, and since it's less than 60 days I think I can do it, but they are ####### trying my ####### patience more every day. The satisfaction of a "screw y'all, I'm outta here" is rapidly approaching the satisfaction of the various bonuses involved in staying until 3/15. Countdown clock is on, though.

Oh, and if just the job weren't bad enough...right now I have nine people reporting to me (and two open positions). Of the nine I'm currently managing, the number who have cancer that we know of is...three. In addition to the lawyer with early-stage colon cancer, today I found out a paralegal has early stage lung cancer and a manager has a leukemia that will keep him in the hospital for the next month. Our team is increasingly devastated by illness, physical and emotional. Awful.

Sounds like a toxic environment, literally

Both of these are great postings.

OMFG. I'm on final countdown to quitting my job no matter what, and since it's less than 60 days I think I can do it, but they are ####### trying my ####### patience more every day. The satisfaction of a "screw y'all, I'm outta here" is rapidly approaching the satisfaction of the various bonuses involved in staying until 3/15. Countdown clock is on, though.

Oh, and if just the job weren't bad enough...right now I have nine people reporting to me (and two open positions). Of the nine I'm currently managing, the number who have cancer that we know of is...three. In addition to the lawyer with early-stage colon cancer, today I found out a paralegal has early stage lung cancer and a manager has a leukemia that will keep him in the hospital for the next month. Our team is increasingly devastated by illness, physical and emotional. Awful.

Dang. That sucks GB. :( The Influenza has been going around....

And this is just nice, too.

oh, and that's calendar days, not work days...

 

[proninja]

I think herdwife comment is one of those you need to hear tone of voice in order to properly interpret. Could go either way. If it were me, I would value stability, low stress, and not backbreaking hours over maximum possible pay. Provided you're making enough to make ends meet, having time to spend with your wife/kid, not bringing a bunch of work stress home, and not having to worry about commission checks coming/getting fired if you do poorly are going to make it a lot easier to love/lead your family well than the difference between $85k and $100k. $85k should be a piece of cake to live on, and if you want to try to take over the world again in a couple years after you've tightened up the home life, go ahead and do it then.

 

[proninja]

K, it would be a much better figurative finger to throw up at them to put in your two weeks the day after the bonus clears than to give them a literal finger and walk out now.

 

[charvik]

I think herdwife comment is one of those you need to hear tone of voice in order to properly interpret. Could go either way. If it were me, I would value stability, low stress, and not backbreaking hours over maximum possible pay. Provided you're making enough to make ends meet, having time to spend with your wife/kid, not bringing a bunch of work stress home, and not having to worry about commission checks coming/getting fired if you do poorly are going to make it a lot easier to love/lead your family well than the difference between $85k and $100k. $85k should be a piece of cake to live on, and if you want to try to take over the world again in a couple years after you've tightened up the home life, go ahead and do it then.

I understand where you are coming from, but if avg salaeries are around 100k+commision, you shouldn't lead off negotiations at 80 flat.

 

[charvik]

K, it would be a much better figurative finger to throw up at them to put in your two weeks the day after the bonus clears than to give them a literal finger and walk out now.

 

[proninja]

I think herdwife comment is one of those you need to hear tone of voice in order to properly interpret. Could go either way. If it were me, I would value stability, low stress, and not backbreaking hours over maximum possible pay. Provided you're making enough to make ends meet, having time to spend with your wife/kid, not bringing a bunch of work stress home, and not having to worry about commission checks coming/getting fired if you do poorly are going to make it a lot easier to love/lead your family well than the difference between $85k and $100k. $85k should be a piece of cake to live on, and if you want to try to take over the world again in a couple years after you've tightened up the home life, go ahead and do it then.

I understand where you are coming from, but if avg salaeries are around 100k+commision, you shouldn't lead off negotiations at 80 flat.

Totally agree. I'm not giving him advice on negotiating salary. He's probably much better at that than I am. I'm just pointing out which aspects of a job I would find most important in his current situation.

 

[krista4]

K, it would be a much better figurative finger to throw up at them to put in your two weeks the day after the bonus clears than to give them a literal finger and walk out now.

You and charv are definitely right about this.I'm going to give a bit of a finger in a couple of weeks anyway. Long story, but the company after months of deliberation has determined to give some retention-related stock/options to some people, which will be approved in a couple of weeks. The terms and the amounts involved are at very best incredibly insulting. I'm going to reject it and tell them not to bother with mine.

 

[charvik]

K, it would be a much better figurative finger to throw up at them to put in your two weeks the day after the bonus clears than to give them a literal finger and walk out now.

You and charv are definitely right about this.I'm going to give a bit of a finger in a couple of weeks anyway. Long story, but the company after months of deliberation has determined to give some retention-related stock/options to some people, which will be approved in a couple of weeks. The terms and the amounts involved are at very best incredibly insulting. I'm going to reject it and tell them not to bother with mine.

ummm... no... but you can defer your options to your team.

 

[krista4]

K, it would be a much better figurative finger to throw up at them to put in your two weeks the day after the bonus clears than to give them a literal finger and walk out now.

You and charv are definitely right about this.I'm going to give a bit of a finger in a couple of weeks anyway. Long story, but the company after months of deliberation has determined to give some retention-related stock/options to some people, which will be approved in a couple of weeks. The terms and the amounts involved are at very best incredibly insulting. I'm going to reject it and tell them not to bother with mine.

ummm... no... but you can defer your options to your team.

No I can't.

 

[proninja]

K, it would be a much better figurative finger to throw up at them to put in your two weeks the day after the bonus clears than to give them a literal finger and walk out now.

You and charv are definitely right about this.I'm going to give a bit of a finger in a couple of weeks anyway. Long story, but the company after months of deliberation has determined to give some retention-related stock/options to some people, which will be approved in a couple of weeks. The terms and the amounts involved are at very best incredibly insulting. I'm going to reject it and tell them not to bother with mine.

I honestly can't figure out why you wouldn't take the money. If you don't want it give it to Julio. Or charity.edit: does "retention related" mean that you have to stick around for a certain period of time to exercise the options or that they're rewarding you for sticking around?

 

[charvik]

and for ##### sake, stop with the silly notion about not being able to show because of a little weight... Nobody in here gives a crap about that. We want to drink a couple (well a lot, or A LOT!!!!JUAN!!!) of drinks with people we care about, and spend a crap load of time with.

You have the means, you definitely need the break, and this meeting would for sure get your mind off of work and that ####fest for a couple of days.

 

[charvik]

K, it would be a much better figurative finger to throw up at them to put in your two weeks the day after the bonus clears than to give them a literal finger and walk out now.

You and charv are definitely right about this.I'm going to give a bit of a finger in a couple of weeks anyway. Long story, but the company after months of deliberation has determined to give some retention-related stock/options to some people, which will be approved in a couple of weeks. The terms and the amounts involved are at very best incredibly insulting. I'm going to reject it and tell them not to bother with mine.

ummm... no... but you can defer your options to your team.

No I can't.

ooof... crappy company indeed.

 

[bentley]

Glad I wasn't the only one who thought that comment from Herd wife was ridiculous.

I thought it was more a "do not sell yourself short" comment.When I saw the numbers and comparison, I thought it sounded low too.

Maybe I'm being overly friendly to her side, but I can see this and also see her thinking that if if this whole business experience parlayed itself into a higher paying job, then it wouldn't seem like a waste.

 

[krista4]

K, it would be a much better figurative finger to throw up at them to put in your two weeks the day after the bonus clears than to give them a literal finger and walk out now.

You and charv are definitely right about this.I'm going to give a bit of a finger in a couple of weeks anyway. Long story, but the company after months of deliberation has determined to give some retention-related stock/options to some people, which will be approved in a couple of weeks. The terms and the amounts involved are at very best incredibly insulting. I'm going to reject it and tell them not to bother with mine.

I honestly can't figure out why you wouldn't take the money. If you don't want it give it to Julio. Or charity.edit: does "retention related" mean that you have to stick around for a certain period of time to exercise the options or that they're rewarding you for sticking around?

What was originally considered, back in September, would have been equity with 3-4 year vesting. So I'd have to stay until 9/13 for the first tranche to vest.What we're now being given, and only certain people and at a MUCH lower valuation, is performance + time vesting, so first the company would have to hit certain targets for 2013, which wouldn't be known 'til about Feb/March 2014. If those targets were hit, THEN the stock would start to vest over three years. Meaning I'd have nothing until Feb. 2015 at earliest, and then it would be a tiny amount of value.

charv, I'm in charge of (a tiny part of a squillion other things) our equity programs, so unfortunately I will draft these document or oversee their drafting, and know there will be a non-transfer clause.

ETA: I told my boss I would just give my grants to another lawyer who works for me and is getting an even more pitiful grant. We joked about the fact that he (the person on my team), who will likely draft the agreements themselves, could put a special transferability provision just in my grant.

and for ##### sake, stop with the silly notion about not being able to show because of a little weight... Nobody in here gives a crap about that. We want to drink a couple (well a lot, or A LOT!!!!JUAN!!!) of drinks with people we care about, and spend a crap load of time with.

You have the means, you definitely need the break, and this meeting would for sure get your mind off of work and that ####fest for a couple of days.

Wait, you're there? I need an up-to-date list to know how many people I would embarrass myself in front of.

 

[proninja]

Any chance they let you go if you reject the options knowing you have a bonus coming up and you're obviously not planning on sticking around?

 

[Tremendous Upside]

Charv is everywhere

 

[charvik]

Charv is everywhere

 

[charvik]

Charv is everywhere

big win tonight btw.