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[Joe T]

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Wife just rode with me to deliver an order to someone locally. We used to do this a lot together. They are good memories. One time we drove from our home in Central Texas to El Paso and back in 36 hours just to meet a customer. He never bought anything from us. The first year we had the business we had a little Christmas tree in the office and it was just her and me and her dog. We would get in the car together and ride up to work with a cup of coffee and try to figure out what to do, me on the phone selling and her in the back doing order processing. One time during that Christmas season I told her, "For the rest of our lives, remember that this is what I think heaven feels like."She had an absolute breakdown in the car. She says she's worried about me and doesn't know what else she could do to help and she misses being with me on those deliveries and this feels like failure. She said she expected it to turn out so differently years ago and wishes that she could have done something, anything to fix it. I had to remind her that business in our market has been bad for months and my responsibility to our business is to make sure it still exists when things turn around. I told her its my responsibility as a husband to make sure our family isn't so dependent on something so volatile, something that was cruising along fine for a couple of years and then turned southward. I told her that all the dreams we have for our lives together and for our children need to no longer take a back seat to the dream I've been pursuing. Truthfully, I AM excited about getting another job. I am excited to be around people again (my only regular coworker is a 20 year old). I am excited to not pay for my own health insurance. I'm excited to start filling in the hole I dug over the years. And when I get an inkling of "let's just stick it out..." I have to remind myself that that is the attitude I had going all the way back to the summer and I'm just about out of runway. And I truly believe that if the company doesn't have to pay me every month then it will have a real chance to rebound and succeed; with me on the payroll it simply doesn't look possible to me.I had her drop me off at the office to finish some stuff because I was about to lose it and that does no one any good.

I have to admit. I'm worried about you too.I'll be in Austin next week for coshole if you want to talk.

 

[Abraham]

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Wife just rode with me to deliver an order to someone locally. We used to do this a lot together. They are good memories. One time we drove from our home in Central Texas to El Paso and back in 36 hours just to meet a customer. He never bought anything from us. The first year we had the business we had a little Christmas tree in the office and it was just her and me and her dog. We would get in the car together and ride up to work with a cup of coffee and try to figure out what to do, me on the phone selling and her in the back doing order processing. One time during that Christmas season I told her, "For the rest of our lives, remember that this is what I think heaven feels like."She had an absolute breakdown in the car. She says she's worried about me and doesn't know what else she could do to help and she misses being with me on those deliveries and this feels like failure. She said she expected it to turn out so differently years ago and wishes that she could have done something, anything to fix it. I had to remind her that business in our market has been bad for months and my responsibility to our business is to make sure it still exists when things turn around. I told her its my responsibility as a husband to make sure our family isn't so dependent on something so volatile, something that was cruising along fine for a couple of years and then turned southward. I told her that all the dreams we have for our lives together and for our children need to no longer take a back seat to the dream I've been pursuing. Truthfully, I AM excited about getting another job. I am excited to be around people again (my only regular coworker is a 20 year old). I am excited to not pay for my own health insurance. I'm excited to start filling in the hole I dug over the years. And when I get an inkling of "let's just stick it out..." I have to remind myself that that is the attitude I had going all the way back to the summer and I'm just about out of runway. And I truly believe that if the company doesn't have to pay me every month then it will have a real chance to rebound and succeed; with me on the payroll it simply doesn't look possible to me.I had her drop me off at the office to finish some stuff because I was about to lose it and that does no one any good.

You mentioned something earlier around paying down credit card debt. Is all your cc debt business related or is a lot of it personal as well?It's a mix of both. It started as business debt and then I'd get paid back and only use the money to pay 75% of what was on the card....then 50%...then eventually only the minimum. We've been carrying on a lifestyle we can't afford if we want to also be saving for the future and for our daughter's education. And it truly is my fault - I've obfuscated and "handled" our finances in such a way that even if I explained to her, you, or anyone else what was going on you would think everything was fine and dandy. I'm thankful to be having some honest conversations about it and getting it settled. I am paying off a $14k card tomorrow and will only have 3k of CC debt outstanding anymore. It's just the first step, but it counts.

 

[St. Louis Bob]

I have to admit. I'm worried about you too.

My GB used to live in El Paso and their was inexpensive weed everywhere. You could also login to FB show you wife some of my cat shirt pics and ask her if this was how my wife figured life would be after 20+ years.Doesn't help but that's all I got.

I'll be in Austin next week for coshole if you want to talk.

No way.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Not sure which is worse: The company name or the product name.

 

[St. Louis Bob]

Not sure which is worse: The company name or the product name.

What Wetdream would name a food product if given the chance. /winbensteinsmoney

 

[St. Louis Bob]

Oh yeah, Man Dip is just as repulsive as it's name. Tried more than a few bites then threw the rest of the container away.

 

[charvik]

I think herdwife comment is one of those you need to hear tone of voice in order to properly interpret. Could go either way. If it were me, I would value stability, low stress, and not backbreaking hours over maximum possible pay. Provided you're making enough to make ends meet, having time to spend with your wife/kid, not bringing a bunch of work stress home, and not having to worry about commission checks coming/getting fired if you do poorly are going to make it a lot easier to love/lead your family well than the difference between $85k and $100k. $85k should be a piece of cake to live on, and if you want to try to take over the world again in a couple years after you've tightened up the home life, go ahead and do it then.

I understand where you are coming from, but if avg salaeries are around 100k+commision, you shouldn't lead off negotiations at 80 flat.

link to sales jobs paying 100k + commission for new employees?

I was under the impression he had a lot of experience

 

[charvik]

I dunno, I know some msft sales people with around 5-10 years experience. They range between 90 - 100 plus commission. I know another guy that sells services, he has 15yeras or so, an his base is 125 We had a sales guy in Austin (our office was in Houston) and he pulled similar numbers. These guys all sell IT or IT services to big oil.

 

[cosjobs]

Okay, I'll bite. Is cos hole real or is this just another GM Frat type thing?

Oh, its real.I would have sent you an invite, but I PM'ed you the last three times I was in Dallas and you never responded.Updated list (I think I'm going from memory)YSR & RomoSLB & Mrs SLBGusherThornCharvikHomerGMUnialiasBogartDisco StuUruk HaiMr. & Mrs cosjobsTre?????????????----------------OFF CAMPUS unless Bentley bring bus to sleep in or they want to sleep on the patio:BentleyAbraColinKevzilla

 

[Joe T]

I dunno, I know some msft sales people with around 5-10 years experience. They range between 90 - 100 plus commission. I know another guy that sells services, he has 15yeras or so, an his base is 125 We had a sales guy in Austin (our office was in Houston) and he pulled similar numbers. These guys all sell IT or IT services to big oil.

I agree with this. The sales guys I work with start at around 100k + commissions. Software sales. It's a good gig if you can get it.

 

[bentley]

Just leaving the urgent care place where Yuke was diagnosed with nursemaid's elbow. The medical assistant declined to check out my scriveners balls.

 

[Tecumseh]

I dunno, I know some msft sales people with around 5-10 years experience. They range between 90 - 100 plus commission. I know another guy that sells services, he has 15yeras or so, an his base is 125 We had a sales guy in Austin (our office was in Houston) and he pulled similar numbers. These guys all sell IT or IT services to big oil.

I agree with this. The sales guys I work with start at around 100k + commissions. Software sales. It's a good gig if you can get it.

15yrs ago my base selling software was $90k. Good thing I quit that job to buy a restaurant!

 

[Mr.Pack]

Hey Chicago guys what's the word on this place?

We will be in Chicago to see my daughters choir concert on Saturday and this place is right down the block.

 

[Tiger Fan]

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Wife just rode with me to deliver an order to someone locally. We used to do this a lot together. They are good memories. One time we drove from our home in Central Texas to El Paso and back in 36 hours just to meet a customer. He never bought anything from us. The first year we had the business we had a little Christmas tree in the office and it was just her and me and her dog. We would get in the car together and ride up to work with a cup of coffee and try to figure out what to do, me on the phone selling and her in the back doing order processing. One time during that Christmas season I told her, "For the rest of our lives, remember that this is what I think heaven feels like."She had an absolute breakdown in the car. She says she's worried about me and doesn't know what else she could do to help and she misses being with me on those deliveries and this feels like failure. She said she expected it to turn out so differently years ago and wishes that she could have done something, anything to fix it. I had to remind her that business in our market has been bad for months and my responsibility to our business is to make sure it still exists when things turn around. I told her its my responsibility as a husband to make sure our family isn't so dependent on something so volatile, something that was cruising along fine for a couple of years and then turned southward. I told her that all the dreams we have for our lives together and for our children need to no longer take a back seat to the dream I've been pursuing. Truthfully, I AM excited about getting another job. I am excited to be around people again (my only regular coworker is a 20 year old). I am excited to not pay for my own health insurance. I'm excited to start filling in the hole I dug over the years. And when I get an inkling of "let's just stick it out..." I have to remind myself that that is the attitude I had going all the way back to the summer and I'm just about out of runway. And I truly believe that if the company doesn't have to pay me every month then it will have a real chance to rebound and succeed; with me on the payroll it simply doesn't look possible to me.I had her drop me off at the office to finish some stuff because I was about to lose it and that does no one any good.

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You mentioned something earlier around paying down credit card debt. Is all your cc debt business related or is a lot of it personal as well?

It's a mix of both. It started as business debt and then I'd get paid back and only use the money to pay 75% of what was on the card....then 50%...then eventually only the minimum. We've been carrying on a lifestyle we can't afford if we want to also be saving for the future and for our daughter's education. And it truly is my fault - I've obfuscated and "handled" our finances in such a way that even if I explained to her, you, or anyone else what was going on you would think everything was fine and dandy. I'm thankful to be having some honest conversations about it and getting it settled. I am paying off a $14k card tomorrow and will only have 3k of CC debt outstanding anymore. It's just the first step, but it counts.Paying off that $14k is pretty amazing Would definitely suggest a "personal finance" plan that you and your wife can develop together. That will be a great next step. Definitely willing to help out if you need any assistance. Take baby steps, but make sure to have goals along the way to hit

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

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[Hawks64]

Wife has calmed down substantially. I did have a glass of red wine with her last night. The progress I think I am making on my job hunt is letting her know I'm taking this seriously. Came clean to my parents yesterday about what's going on as well.

Good to hear GB. I hope you and your wife can make this a memory in the not too distant future. Just keep making her and your daughter a priority and everything else will fall in place.

 

[Hawks64]

At least two of the companies with which I'm interviewing have those open plan designs--no offices and everyone from the CEO down just sits in this big open area. Allegedly fosters collaboration, but sounds kind of awful. Any of you guys ever work in one of these environments?

It's very big in Japanese culture and it flat out sucks IMO. It's difficult to have any kind of conversation on the phone and God forbid if you need a private conversation because it's off to conference room you go.

 

[Hawks64]

Operation Get Back to 200 begins after the Superbowl

In.

In.

In

In. I have gained back all the weight I lost last year.

At 220/225 at 6'2" I am in as well. I need to drop this gut of mine.

 

[Tiger Fan]

I know I'm late to the game, but this Band of Horses band is pretty good

 

[krista4]

Why doesn't flysack hang out in here anymore?

Not going to bother searching for his post, but I think he felt we were too elitist/cliquey/judgementalToo bad, cause I like the guy

I've wondered that and intended to e-mail him to see what's up. I don't remember any post like this but have missed a lot. I'm sorry to hear this. Seemed to me like he fit right in with the group. I can't imagine we'd be any of those things you (he) mentioned.

 

[krista4]

Cliffs Notes on the last 2 days?

1. Old men who play cards together and honor one another's memory are the best kinds of people there are.2. I have some problems and am making great progress.

3. Anticipation for Monkey Bread at CH is through the roof.

4. Shuke has his traveling priorities out of whack.

5. Krista has put on a few30-35 vanity pounds. No one cares (in a good way).

6. Rick Flair shtick will get you out of having to court a girl you don't really like.

That's about it.

Fixed.

 

[krista4]

At least two of the companies with which I'm interviewing have those open plan designs--no offices and everyone from the CEO down just sits in this big open area. Allegedly fosters collaboration, but sounds kind of awful. Any of you guys ever work in one of these environments?

I do and it's great. I'm in tech though so the collaboration piece is huge, not sure how it would be for lawyer types

Yeah, I don't really get it in that respect. 87.2% of what I do is highly sensitive; I don't understand how that works.

 

[krista4]

GS Elevator Gossip ‏@GSElevator #1: Legal abortion turns 40 today. Dane Cook turns 41 in March. So close.

 

[Limp Ditka]

Cliffs Notes on the last 2 days?

1. Old men who play cards together and honor one another's memory are the best kinds of people there are.2. I have some problems and am making great progress.

3. Anticipation for Monkey Bread at CH is through the roof.

4. Shuke has his traveling priorities out of whack.

5. Krista has put on a few30-35 vanity pounds. No one cares (in a good way).

6. Rick Flair shtick will get you out of having to court a girl you don't really like.

That's about it.

Fixed.

You're fine for now, but if/when Christo starts sending you proposals via PM......

 

[krista4]

Hey Chicago guys what's the word on this place?We will be in Chicago to see my daughters choir concert on Saturday and this place is right down the block.

Hahahahahahaha, no. Give me the address of where you'll be and I'll give you a better option.

 

[proninja]

Hey Chicago guys what's the word on this place?We will be in Chicago to see my daughters choir concert on Saturday and this place is right down the block.

Hahahahahahaha, no. Give me the address of where you'll be and I'll give you a better option.

I like it when you're feisty

 

[krista4]

Hey Chicago guys what's the word on this place?We will be in Chicago to see my daughters choir concert on Saturday and this place is right down the block.

Hahahahahahaha, no. Give me the address of where you'll be and I'll give you a better option.

I like it when you're feisty

 

[strykerpks]

Hey Chicago guys what's the word on this place?We will be in Chicago to see my daughters choir concert on Saturday and this place is right down the block.

Hahahahahahaha, no. Give me the address of where you'll be and I'll give you a better option.

Listen to her, Pack. If there's one thing she knows, it's food.

 

[krista4]

Hey Chicago guys what's the word on this place?We will be in Chicago to see my daughters choir concert on Saturday and this place is right down the block.

Hahahahahahaha, no. Give me the address of where you'll be and I'll give you a better option.

Listen to her, Pack. If there's one thing she knows, it's food.

If it weren't for the part about being a gross fatass, I'd kind of like this new shtick of being a gross fatass.

 

[proninja]

Hey Chicago guys what's the word on this place?We will be in Chicago to see my daughters choir concert on Saturday and this place is right down the block.

Hahahahahahaha, no. Give me the address of where you'll be and I'll give you a better option.

Listen to her, Pack. If there's one thing she knows, it's food.

If it weren't for the part about being a gross fatass, I'd kind of like this new shtick of being a gross fatass.

Was tempted to throw a "I thought you people were supposed to be jolly" on your recent FB post :fatterthanyou:

 

[krista4]

Hey Chicago guys what's the word on this place?We will be in Chicago to see my daughters choir concert on Saturday and this place is right down the block.

Hahahahahahaha, no. Give me the address of where you'll be and I'll give you a better option.

Listen to her, Pack. If there's one thing she knows, it's food.

If it weren't for the part about being a gross fatass, I'd kind of like this new shtick of being a gross fatass.

Was tempted to throw a "I thought you people were supposed to be jolly" on your recent FB post :fatterthanyou:

I actually made that point to one of my staff recently, that at least I was jolly! (except I'm not)

 

[Josie Maran]

Hey Chicago guys what's the word on this place?We will be in Chicago to see my daughters choir concert on Saturday and this place is right down the block.

Hahahahahahaha, no. Give me the address of where you'll be and I'll give you a better option.

Listen to her, Pack. If there's one thing she knows, it's food.

 

[proninja]

Flysack, if you're lurking, we miss you

 

[krista4]

Flysack, if you're lurking, we miss you

I just sent him a FB message. I had no idea he'd left due to feeling some bad vibes here.

 

[proninja]

Flysack, if you're lurking, we miss you

I just sent him a FB message. I had no idea he'd left due to feeling some bad vibes here.

Ha. So did I.

 

[shuke]

Why doesn't flysack hang out in here anymore?

Not going to bother searching for his post, but I think he felt we were too elitist/cliquey/judgementalToo bad, cause I like the guy

It is kinda cliquey, BUT HE WAS IN THE CLIQUE.

 

[proninja]

Why doesn't flysack hang out in here anymore?

Not going to bother searching for his post, but I think he felt we were too elitist/cliquey/judgementalToo bad, cause I like the guy

It is kinda cliquey, BUT HE WAS IN THE CLIQUE.

Right? I mean, without him we're trying to peg Stu as a hipster, and Flysack makes Stu look like an old white guy with a polo tucked into his khakis when it comes to "I don't admit to reading that book now that they made a movie out of it" hipsterism

 

[krista4]

Perhaps a little "I wouldn't want to be part of a club that would have me as a member"?

 

[shuke]

Wife has calmed down substantially. I did have a glass of red wine with her last night. The progress I think I am making on my job hunt is letting her know I'm taking this seriously. Came clean to my parents yesterday about what's going on as well.

Sounds like a good start.

 

[krista4]

Or more likely some sort of secret messages that James Joyce sent in Ulysses, as interpreted by Don DeLillo and parlayed in an interpretive dance by Isadora Duncan in a secret code known only to flysack.

 

[shuke]

Cliffs Notes on the last 2 days?

1. Old men who play cards together and honor one another's memory are the best kinds of people there are.

Pretty sure Tanner's up to speed on this one.

 

[shuke]

3. Anticipation for Monkey Bread at CH is through the roof.

W () WLast time I had this, I was 9 years old and made it with my Grandmother. Really odd as I was thinking about that last week. Include me in the anticipation crowd.

Man, I'm going to have to make some monkey bread next weekend.

 

[Guster]

Please answer me. I need to know why I can't post pics of political angst and my lunch menu or know how drunk Tanner is each night by the randomness of the pics he messages. TIA. Will answer yours.

Did you try calling me yesterday? Someone from the same area code as you did and i didn't recognize the number. No message was left

Nope. I don't think I even have your number anymore. It's on an old phone.

We're calling flysack now? Have all standards flown out the window?

Crap like this is why I don't post in here much anymore. Not that anyone is complaining, but it had to be said.

 

[proninja]

Pickles is that way to everybody. When I was in Des Moines he went out of his way to say that he didn't live in Des Moines.

 

[proninja]

So, that "marital relations" thread with the dots is 8 pages now. Half the guys complaining about never getting laid and the other half bragging that they do?

 

[shuke]

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[Josie Maran]

Please answer me. I need to know why I can't post pics of political angst and my lunch menu or know how drunk Tanner is each night by the randomness of the pics he messages. TIA. Will answer yours.

Did you try calling me yesterday? Someone from the same area code as you did and i didn't recognize the number. No message was left

Nope. I don't think I even have your number anymore. It's on an old phone.

We're calling flysack now? Have all standards flown out the window?

Crap like this is why I don't post in here much anymore. Not that anyone is complaining, but it had to be said.

Shoulda known it was Pickles.

 

[Josie Maran]

Pickles is that way to everybody. When I was in Des Moines he went out of his way to say that he didn't live in Des Moines.

 

[krista4]

3. Anticipation for Monkey Bread at CH is through the roof.

W () WLast time I had this, I was 9 years old and made it with my Grandmother. Really odd as I was thinking about that last week. Include me in the anticipation crowd.

Man, I'm going to have to make some monkey bread next weekend.

Has this become a euphemism now?

 

[Josie Maran]

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