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CNBC IS AWESOME RIGHT NOW :excited: :excited: :excited: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
I don't really know what's going on but people are fired up.
Icahn bites bill

One spicy assault on Ackman over a $1B Herbalife short

Wall Street’s Herbalife hedge fund smackdown is now officially a mud-wrestling donnybrook.

“I don’t like Bill Ackman, and I don’t respect him,” legendary investor Carl Icahn spewed yesterday in a TV interview.

The bashing comes roughly a month after Ackman made a very public $1 billion bet against the LA-based nutritional-supplements company.

Ackman, first in a couple of TV interviews and then before an auditorium full of investors, called Herbalife a pyramid scheme that should be shut down by regulators.

On Jan. 10, after Ackman’s Dec. 19 short became public, The Post reported exclusively that Icahn had gone against Ackman by buying Herbalife shares.

These are his first public comments on the matter. He still hasn’t confirmed his stake.

The venom has been festering since the two men fought in court over a soured 2003 real estate deal. Ackman ultimately won that round, but not until two years ago.

One person familiar with Icahn said the investor may have been waiting for the perfect moment — like the Herbalife affair — to strike back.

In the past, Icahn has lauded short sellers for shining a light on bad corporate behavior, but his no-holds-barred attack on Ackman yesterday was more like the offensives he launches against his corporate prey.

Yesterday, Icahn, 76, called Ackman “holier than thou” for his views on Herbalife. “Saying, ‘I’m doing this for the good of the world and I want to see sunshine on Herbalife’ is bull,” he told Bloomberg TV’s Trish Regan.

If Ackman wants to be a do-gooder, he should join the Securities and Exchange Commission, his rival added.

In a deliciously ironic part of the rant, the corporate-raider-cum-activist chided Ackman: “You don’t go out and get a roomful of people to badmouth the company.” Icahn, of course, is renowned for taking down dozens of corporate managements in his 52-year career.

It didn’t take long for his 46-year-old foe to return fire.

In a statement last night, Ackman recounted his legal battle with Icahn with some embarrassing details, painting Icahn as a “clear and unambiguous” foot-dragger who did everything in his power not to give in to a number of court orders against him.

Ackman said that after Icahn was finally forced to admit defeat, “He called me up and said he wanted to be my friend. I had no interest.”

Ackman’s short against Herbalife has been like no other he has taken, and the battle, first with the company and then with fellow hedgie Dan Loeb, has riveted Wall Street.

At first, his charges drove Herbalife shares down about 40 percent. Then, Loeb’s $285 million investment in the company reversed the shares’ course. They closed at $43.25 yesterday, up 75 cents since the Dec. 19 Ack-attack.

Ackman claims Herbalife is victimizing 93 percent of the distributors for its global protein shakes, who try to recruit others to sell the product and never make a dime. He has promised to donate all of his personal profits from his Herbalife short to charity.

And what really galls Icahn about that? Ackman will become “more famous,” he groused.
 
I'm getting the Directv Genie installed tomorrow. Hoping Barbara Eden is involved somehow.
Did you have to pay for it? I have the whole home DVR thing and it's nice but the receiver with genie is a million times faster than the POS boxes I have now.
I was pissed at DTV for a few things so called up to cancel. They offered to upgrade me for free. Juts had to pay the $50 installation cost.
 
Tanner, (or others) do you remember a few of the funny memes where two cats (or whatever) are the phone talking to each other saying: "what are you doing?"...and the other saying "Oh, nothing. what are you doing"? Kind of phone flirting? Am I imagining that? I need something like that stat.

 
Why doesn't flysack hang out in here anymore?
Not going to bother searching for his post, but I think he felt we were too elitist/cliquey/judgementalToo bad, cause I like the guy
Heyo. Nah Gust, I don't remember saying any of that. I guess I wandered off for a few reasons. Part of it was the bad taste Imp's assault left me. I tend to walk away from crap like that nowadays. Another part is me being a moody mofo and Pickles making a snarky & snide comment during my manstrual cycle. And also because you all just got too stale and unantidisestablishmentarian. I've been posting :e:lsewhere a lot, where all the hip kids hang out. ;)

Now for something completely different.

I'm going to be 40 in a couple months. This isn't a big deal but yea it's totally a big deal. I've been thinking a lot about an impending mid-life crisis, about how I'm going to want a penis-shaped red sports car and a young paramour who isn't exactly attractive but WHO CARES SHE'S NINETEEN AND LOOK AT ME WITH MY HOT YOUNG MISTRESS, I STILL GOT IT, YEA!, I CAN STILL MARCH MY WHITE SOLDIERS DOWN NARROW TUNNELS!@#, etc. I'm wondering when it's going to happen. Which, I think (stay with me now), means I'm already having a Hipster's Mid-Life Crisis. Lately I'm thinking about getting extra serious in the gym, just to see how I can carve my body for my fortieth birthday. Which I know is totally superficial and ridiculous and kinda sad and pathetic, but then I want to do it anyway. Be prepared for shirtless pics on my Facebook page. Yes.

Feel free to ridicule me now and/or offer sympathy and understanding. Is the end nigh?
WBGBF :thumbup:

 
Tanner, (or others) do you remember a few of the funny memes where two cats (or whatever) are the phone talking to each other saying: "what are you doing?"...and the other saying "Oh, nothing. what are you doing"? Kind of phone flirting? Am I imagining that? I need something like that stat.
You need some phone flirting? PM me you number and I'll do my best.
 
Tanner, (or others) do you remember a few of the funny memes where two cats (or whatever) are the phone talking to each other saying: "what are you doing?"...and the other saying "Oh, nothing. what are you doing"? Kind of phone flirting? Am I imagining that? I need something like that stat.
Like this?This?
YES!Except I'm looking for FAR gayer than those. Knew you'd be the man for this job...
:lmao:
 
This is like when Tanner is old shtick began. So exciting.
:goodposting:
I'm older than Tanner and fatter than Krista and my albatross is wheeze, wheeze, cough, hack ice cream cake.
But you'll be at Coshole. :thumbup:
Did you see the post I made aboout the date I have planned for us Wed.?
Yeah, I meant to discuss that with you...I'm pretty much the last person to take to a craft beer thing. I'd just be asking everyone where the friggin' Miller Lite is. :)
 
This is like when Tanner is old shtick began. So exciting.
:goodposting:
I'm older than Tanner and fatter than Krista and my albatross is wheeze, wheeze, cough, hack ice cream cake.
But you'll be at Coshole. :thumbup:
Did you see the post I made aboout the date I have planned for us Wed.?
Yeah, I meant to discuss that with you...I'm pretty much the last person to take to a craft beer thing. I'd just be asking everyone where the friggin' Miller Lite is. :)
lol
 
This is like when Tanner is old shtick began. So exciting.
:goodposting:
I'm older than Tanner and fatter than Krista and my albatross is wheeze, wheeze, cough, hack ice cream cake.
But you'll be at Coshole. :thumbup:
Did you see the post I made aboout the date I have planned for us Wed.?
Yeah, I meant to discuss that with you...I'm pretty much the last person to take to a craft beer thing. I'd just be asking everyone where the friggin' Miller Lite is. :)
Not too late to fly Urbanhack down for this.
 
Hey GM> Hi. It's been awhile. Why do you want an ubergay meme from Tanner?
Hipsters don't say "hey". Hipsters say "YOLO Cat Daddy".Anyhow...Long story and not all that funny, so tl;dr, but...my boss got something from Nike called a "Fuel Band". Picture one of those Live Strong bracelets, only in black and with a piece of computer machinery that measures and displays the amount of calories you've burned in a day. He got it for Xmas. He's almost 60, but in better shape than all of us..except maybe you. Our head trader is 35 and I have for years called him out for being 'gay' for my boss, in a jocular, funny-but-also-sort-of-true sort of way. When we were at our last company and we ordered our lunch every day, they would order the same thing. Every day. So FREAKING gay. They order the same coffees from Dutch Bros on Fridays. And of course, they are both dedicated gym rats. Our trader wakes up at 2:30am, goes to the gym for an hour and is at his station by 4:30am every day, usually trying to race my boss into the office. So it was only a matter of time before our trader got his own Fuel Band from Nike and they admitted to texting each other at night to compare numbers. So.....I have been mocking them all week long and have pantomimed their late night chat sessions the last few days. And now, I'm going to email everybody at work a bunch of these memes to what I hope will amount to a crap ton of laughter.The. End.And yes, I'm a fat tub of lard who needs a fuel band and a better work ethic.
 
Tanner, (or others) do you remember a few of the funny memes where two cats (or whatever) are the phone talking to each other saying: "what are you doing?"...and the other saying "Oh, nothing. what are you doing"? Kind of phone flirting? Am I imagining that? I need something like that stat.
Like this?This?
YES!Except I'm looking for FAR gayer than those. Knew you'd be the man for this job...
Remember, he takes off all all summer.
 
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This is like when Tanner is old shtick began. So exciting.
:goodposting:
I'm older than Tanner and fatter than Krista and my albatross is wheeze, wheeze, cough, hack ice cream cake.
But you'll be at Coshole. :thumbup:
Did you see the post I made aboout the date I have planned for us Wed.?
Yeah, I meant to discuss that with you...I'm pretty much the last person to take to a craft beer thing. I'd just be asking everyone where the friggin' Miller Lite is. :)
Great. I guess second base is out of the question.Anyway, its just a movie about the Austin beer scene and they serve a flight of beers while its showing. You should be able to handle it.
 
This is like when Tanner is old shtick began. So exciting.
:goodposting:
I'm older than Tanner and fatter than Krista and my albatross is wheeze, wheeze, cough, hack ice cream cake.
But you'll be at Coshole. :thumbup:
Did you see the post I made aboout the date I have planned for us Wed.?
Yeah, I meant to discuss that with you...I'm pretty much the last person to take to a craft beer thing. I'd just be asking everyone where the friggin' Miller Lite is. :)
Great. I guess second base is out of the question.Anyway, its just a movie about the Austin beer scene and they serve a flight of beers while its showing. You should be able to handle it.
In other words -- you're going whether you like it or not.
 
Hey Chicago guys what's the word on this place?We will be in Chicago to see my daughters choir concert on Saturday and this place is right down the block.
Hahahahahahaha, no. Give me the address of where you'll be and I'll give you a better option.
Slam the door shut there! haha. My wife found that place and asked me to ask my ifriends, so I'll tell her no.We will be at a church on Roosevelt Dr. Roughly a mile from this place. Not sure of the exact address or the name of it, but it's close.Thanks!
I didn't pay attention last night so didn't notice it was the Taylor St location. Taylor St is Little Italy, so you have a bazillion good options. Haven't been to Francesca's there in ages, but it was one of my favorites. I'll think about others later tonight,
 
Paid off 13k on the credit card. It was close to maxed out and no doubt was hitting both of our credit. So I'm glad to have gotten that down to 1k, which I hope to pay next week. Wife is very sad still. Not angry anymore, just sad that it our plan for the business didn't come to pass the way we wanted. She knows that me getting another job will provide more stability and income and give the business a chance to breath and grow. But she had become used to having me just up the street and seeing me often and now worries that ill be gone 12 hours a day and "forget" about her and our daughter. It IS sad, but even if I could work for free it wouldn't be worth it over time; there is no guarantee the business is ever going to be super lucrative. And I'm in my prime earning years and have only accumulated debt.
I'm not trying to be mean about your wife, but after a few of your posts, I'm starting to lose sympathy for her. She seems like she wants to have her cake and eat it too.
:goodposting:
 
You guys would love my wife. Cos has met her a few times and (I think) would vouch for how kind and caring she is about others.

 
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CNBC IS AWESOME RIGHT NOW :excited: :excited: :excited: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
I don't really know what's going on but people are fired up.
Icahn bites bill

One spicy assault on Ackman over a $1B Herbalife short

Wall Street’s Herbalife hedge fund smackdown is now officially a mud-wrestling donnybrook.

“I don’t like Bill Ackman, and I don’t respect him,” legendary investor Carl Icahn spewed yesterday in a TV interview.

The bashing comes roughly a month after Ackman made a very public $1 billion bet against the LA-based nutritional-supplements company.

Ackman, first in a couple of TV interviews and then before an auditorium full of investors, called Herbalife a pyramid scheme that should be shut down by regulators.

On Jan. 10, after Ackman’s Dec. 19 short became public, The Post reported exclusively that Icahn had gone against Ackman by buying Herbalife shares.

These are his first public comments on the matter. He still hasn’t confirmed his stake.

The venom has been festering since the two men fought in court over a soured 2003 real estate deal. Ackman ultimately won that round, but not until two years ago.

One person familiar with Icahn said the investor may have been waiting for the perfect moment — like the Herbalife affair — to strike back.

In the past, Icahn has lauded short sellers for shining a light on bad corporate behavior, but his no-holds-barred attack on Ackman yesterday was more like the offensives he launches against his corporate prey.

Yesterday, Icahn, 76, called Ackman “holier than thou” for his views on Herbalife. “Saying, ‘I’m doing this for the good of the world and I want to see sunshine on Herbalife’ is bull,” he told Bloomberg TV’s Trish Regan.

If Ackman wants to be a do-gooder, he should join the Securities and Exchange Commission, his rival added.

In a deliciously ironic part of the rant, the corporate-raider-cum-activist chided Ackman: “You don’t go out and get a roomful of people to badmouth the company.” Icahn, of course, is renowned for taking down dozens of corporate managements in his 52-year career.

It didn’t take long for his 46-year-old foe to return fire.

In a statement last night, Ackman recounted his legal battle with Icahn with some embarrassing details, painting Icahn as a “clear and unambiguous” foot-dragger who did everything in his power not to give in to a number of court orders against him.

Ackman said that after Icahn was finally forced to admit defeat, “He called me up and said he wanted to be my friend. I had no interest.”

Ackman’s short against Herbalife has been like no other he has taken, and the battle, first with the company and then with fellow hedgie Dan Loeb, has riveted Wall Street.

At first, his charges drove Herbalife shares down about 40 percent. Then, Loeb’s $285 million investment in the company reversed the shares’ course. They closed at $43.25 yesterday, up 75 cents since the Dec. 19 Ack-attack.

Ackman claims Herbalife is victimizing 93 percent of the distributors for its global protein shakes, who try to recruit others to sell the product and never make a dime. He has promised to donate all of his personal profits from his Herbalife short to charity.

And what really galls Icahn about that? Ackman will become “more famous,” he groused.
I worked for an Icahn-owned company for 18 months. It is not something I would do again.
 
This is like when Tanner is old shtick began. So exciting.
:goodposting:
I'm older than Tanner and fatter than Krista and my albatross is wheeze, wheeze, cough, hack ice cream cake.
But you'll be at Coshole. :thumbup:
Did you see the post I made aboout the date I have planned for us Wed.?
Yeah, I meant to discuss that with you...I'm pretty much the last person to take to a craft beer thing. I'd just be asking everyone where the friggin' Miller Lite is. :)
Great. I guess second base is out of the question.Anyway, its just a movie about the Austin beer scene and they serve a flight of beers while its showing. You should be able to handle it.
In other words -- you're going whether you like it or not.
I'm going. He can sit in the bar and drink Miller Lite if he'd prefer.
 
This is like when Tanner is old shtick began. So exciting.
:goodposting:
I'm older than Tanner and fatter than Krista and my albatross is wheeze, wheeze, cough, hack ice cream cake.
But you'll be at Coshole. :thumbup:
Did you see the post I made aboout the date I have planned for us Wed.?
Yeah, I meant to discuss that with you...I'm pretty much the last person to take to a craft beer thing. I'd just be asking everyone where the friggin' Miller Lite is. :)
Great. I guess second base is out of the question.Anyway, its just a movie about the Austin beer scene and they serve a flight of beers while its showing. You should be able to handle it.
In other words -- you're going whether you like it or not.
I'm going. He can sit in the bar and drink Miller Lite if he'd prefer.
Maybe he should sit behind the bar and SERVE Miller Lites? Win/Win/WIN?
 
Paid off 13k on the credit card. It was close to maxed out and no doubt was hitting both of our credit. So I'm glad to have gotten that down to 1k, which I hope to pay next week. Wife is very sad still. Not angry anymore, just sad that it our plan for the business didn't come to pass the way we wanted. She knows that me getting another job will provide more stability and income and give the business a chance to breath and grow. But she had become used to having me just up the street and seeing me often and now worries that ill be gone 12 hours a day and "forget" about her and our daughter. It IS sad, but even if I could work for free it wouldn't be worth it over time; there is no guarantee the business is ever going to be super lucrative. And I'm in my prime earning years and have only accumulated debt.
I'm not trying to be mean about your wife, but after a few of your posts, I'm starting to lose sympathy for her. She seems like she wants to have her cake and eat it too.
:goodposting:
In a list of Colin's problems, his wife isn't even on the first five pages.
 
Speaking of work, and imparting a rare bit of good news, I got a job offer today. It's the one that would allow me to live in Chicago or Atlanta (or other places, but those are my top choices at the moment). Not sure if I'll take it, but at least I know I have an immediate option to GTFO of here March 16.

 
Our trader wakes up at 2:30am, goes to the gym for an hour and is at his station by 4:30am every day,
People actually live like this?
Yes, but he's pretty extreme. I've never met anybody like him. He's 35 going on 60, but built like a 19 year old body builder. Good guy, most obnoxious laugh on the planet, hot wife, family man, we've coached several teams together, gone on vacation together...but no way in HELL would I live life like he does. There mere thought of getting out of bed at 2:30am to hit the gym for an hour before punching the clock at 4:30am just makes me tremble.
 
Speaking of work, and imparting a rare bit of good news, I got a job offer today. It's the one that would allow me to live in Chicago or Atlanta (or other places, but those are my top choices at the moment). Not sure if I'll take it, but at least I know I have an immediate option to GTFO of here March 16.
:thumbup:
 
Speaking of work, and imparting a rare bit of good news, I got a job offer today. It's the one that would allow me to live in Chicago or Atlanta (or other places, but those are my top choices at the moment). Not sure if I'll take it, but at least I know I have an immediate option to GTFO of here March 16.
Sorry about your problems at potential lucrative works, Cat Daddy.
 
Speaking of work, and imparting a rare bit of good news, I got a job offer today. It's the one that would allow me to live in Chicago or Atlanta (or other places, but those are my top choices at the moment). Not sure if I'll take it, but at least I know I have an immediate option to GTFO of here March 16.
:thumbup:
 
Speaking of work, and imparting a rare bit of good news, I got a job offer today. It's the one that would allow me to live in Chicago or Atlanta (or other places, but those are my top choices at the moment). Not sure if I'll take it, but at least I know I have an immediate option to GTFO of here March 16.
:thumbup: Love hearing about good news Oh, and if Charvik is still dealing out entry level $100K+ jobs in Houston, I may be interested.

 
I worked for an Icahn-owned company for 18 months. It is not something I would do again.
Man, he was going OFF today on Ackman. It was the best segment of CNBC I've ever seen in my life. He said "BULLSPIT" not once but TWICE and they didn't edit it out. I thought that was illegal or there was a delay, but no, he said it clear as day and it landed on all of our dumbfounded ears. Billionaires going after each other like a couple of bullies on the playground. It was sensational TV. All over a Pyramid Scheme of a company that nobody I know ever uses. :lmao:
 
I worked for an Icahn-owned company for 18 months. It is not something I would do again.
Man, he was going OFF today on Ackman. It was the best segment of CNBC I've ever seen in my life. He said "BULLSPIT" not once but TWICE and they didn't edit it out. I thought that was illegal or there was a delay, but no, he said it clear as day and it landed on all of our dumbfounded ears. Billionaires going after each other like a couple of bullies on the playground. It was sensational TV. All over a Pyramid Scheme of a company that nobody I know ever uses. :lmao:
This, Fat Daddy?
 
I worked for an Icahn-owned company for 18 months. It is not something I would do again.
Man, he was going OFF today on Ackman. It was the best segment of CNBC I've ever seen in my life. He said "BULLSPIT" not once but TWICE and they didn't edit it out. I thought that was illegal or there was a delay, but no, he said it clear as day and it landed on all of our dumbfounded ears. Billionaires going after each other like a couple of bullies on the playground. It was sensational TV. All over a Pyramid Scheme of a company that nobody I know ever uses. :lmao:
This, Fat Daddy?
Quality entertainment. :thumbup:
 
I worked for an Icahn-owned company for 18 months. It is not something I would do again.
Man, he was going OFF today on Ackman. It was the best segment of CNBC I've ever seen in my life. He said "BULLSPIT" not once but TWICE and they didn't edit it out. I thought that was illegal or there was a delay, but no, he said it clear as day and it landed on all of our dumbfounded ears. Billionaires going after each other like a couple of bullies on the playground. It was sensational TV. All over a Pyramid Scheme of a company that nobody I know ever uses. :lmao:
He's definitely a character. I'd like to have seen that.
 
I worked for an Icahn-owned company for 18 months. It is not something I would do again.
Man, he was going OFF today on Ackman. It was the best segment of CNBC I've ever seen in my life. He said "BULLSPIT" not once but TWICE and they didn't edit it out. I thought that was illegal or there was a delay, but no, he said it clear as day and it landed on all of our dumbfounded ears. Billionaires going after each other like a couple of bullies on the playground. It was sensational TV. All over a Pyramid Scheme of a company that nobody I know ever uses. :lmao:
This, Fat Daddy?
Quality entertainment. :thumbup:
Loving it so far. Sounds like Ackman is dominating so far.
 
What is the relevance of the 49ers all-time record in away/neutral playoff games being 8-9? Espn and the like are ######ed with irrelevant stats and its so much worse this time of year.

 
I worked for an Icahn-owned company for 18 months. It is not something I would do again.
Man, he was going OFF today on Ackman. It was the best segment of CNBC I've ever seen in my life. He said "BULLSPIT" not once but TWICE and they didn't edit it out. I thought that was illegal or there was a delay, but no, he said it clear as day and it landed on all of our dumbfounded ears. Billionaires going after each other like a couple of bullies on the playground. It was sensational TV. All over a Pyramid Scheme of a company that nobody I know ever uses. :lmao:
This, Fat Daddy?
Quality entertainment. :thumbup:
Loving it so far. Sounds like Ackman is dominating so far.
lol just dropped a GD.
 

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