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Ok, here's where I be a complete ****........

I think I mentioned here before that my father has dementia. The digression isn't linear, but it appears he eventually works his way backwards through his life - he's forgotten everything that happened in his 70s, then 60s, then 50s, etc..

He long ago forgot who my brother & I are. Until recently, he (mostly) knew my mother is his wife. But he's now running at about 17 years old, when he won a prize for the tobacco he raised. So, Mom is now just some woman in the house. He sometimes knows her name, but it's pretty random.

My father wasn't always the best, but I love him. Thing is, he's not "my dad" anymore - he's a dude who looks like him. His physical health is good, so he may live another decade or more.

How bad a person am I if I wish he wasn't in such good health?
Is it only the memory, or is he being malicious to others?

I can't imagine seeing your father go through this. My grandma had Alzheimer's and it was just horrible to witness.
I ask my mom every time I talk to her if he shows any signs of violence and she swears he doesn't. Nor have my brother & I seen it when we've been there. It's more like (teenaged) petulence when he perceives things out of kilter or is asked to do something he doesn't want to do.
Sorry you're going thru this Uruk, I can't imagine what it's like. I feel for you and your family GB.
Thanks, my friend. But it's my mother dealing with the brunt of it. She's been in contact with a home-care group (so many hours a week) and has had an interview. She's just waiting to hear back. That'll give her some relief.

 
Just catching up on a lot here. Sorry to hear for Pack, fish, Abe, Uruk. Hope things work out for shuke's wife. Congrats to Guster and Stu(?). Whichever is the appropriate wish for anyone I've missed.

 
Wife just had a mini breakdown and suggested she sell her car (no). Said she always had a feeling deep down that we were spending too much and she feels some of the blame. I explained that instead of blaming herself she needed to realize I was really good at hiding things and we need to move forward.

 
Made an emergency run to the grocery store last night for juice boxes with Little 'Zooks. Come out of the store to find I have a flat tire. Now I'm as handy with car stuff as GM is with Netflix or TRE is with running with a horse mask. I was still dressed from work and it was officially past Little 'Zooks bedtime and I've been dealing with some pulled muscle in my back and I have a sore throat (I'll just assume I'm not dying) I was trying to put the spare donut tire on, but he POS car jack I had was working very well (keep in mind I'm an idiot when it comes to this stuff) A girl comes walking by with her groceries and a stroller with 2 babies and she offers to have her husband help me when he gets there to pick her up. I told her no but she was insistent and then she asked to use my phone because her's wasn't charged. She calls the husband and I hear her say "we're ready, come get us, oh and when you get here get your jack out of the car and help this nice guy change his tire, he's in a suit and tie and he's getting dirty and he has his little son with him". So the husband pulls up and immediately gets his jack out tells me that he'll change the tire (I guess he could tell I was an idiot) He coudln't have been more than 25 years old. HIs car was a piece of junk and overall I was guessing this young family with one car was probably not doing great financially. He mentioned that he just got out of work and I notice his shirt says a local cleaning company which I happen to know the owner. So I told him I was gonna call his boss and tell him what a great person he has working for him. At first he says, no don't do that, then he says, well ok my name is Justin. Meanwhile the wife is entertaining her babies and listening to Little 'Zooks tell her a story about how he won a fart contest in school today. I kinda stood there thinking about how nice these people were and if I would've done the same thing. I thought I wanted to do something else for them, and I thought "what would SLB do"... So I said to them "these are the times I wished I carred around Panera gift cards". They were shuked. I asked them where they like to go out to eat and the wife said they don't really ever go out to eat. I told them I was gonna get them a gift card to a nice restaurant. The husband said no and not to bother but the wife said "someplace nice? Like Olive Gardnen?" :lmao: I said "I was thinking Arby's"... again they were shuked. I told them I was kidding but I'd get them something. The husband wouldn't give in at first, but finally he gave me his address. I just got off the phone with the kid's boss and told him what a great employee he has working for him and at lunch I'm gonna get an Olive Garden gift card for them and a Toys R Us gift card for their kids. This seems like something SLB would do, so I figure its the right thing to do.
Very cool. And learn how to change a tire, Kylie. Unless you want to start carrying gift cards in your vag to pass out to those who help you.
Or you could call AAA to change it while you're at home like Tigerfan.
i was waiting for this. notebook is strong with this one. that was literally from chat in 2006. :lmao:
That's not a fact you forget. But how the hell do you remember what year we discussed it?
Chat logs at insidethestats down?
 
Just catching up on a lot here. Sorry to hear for Pack, fish, Abe, Uruk. Hope things work out for shuke's wife. Congrats to Guster and Stu(?). Whichever is the appropriate wish for anyone I've missed.
Pretty much this.

Lot of bad news going around.
Seems like the thread goes in waves. Lots of bad at the same time, then lots of good. Like we're all in sync the way women in college together all get their periods at the same time.

 
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Just catching up on a lot here. Sorry to hear for Pack, fish, Abe, Uruk. Hope things work out for shuke's wife. Congrats to Guster and Stu(?). Whichever is the appropriate wish for anyone I've missed.
Pretty much this.

Lot of bad news going around.
Seems like the thread goes in waves. Lots of bad at the same time, then lots of good. Like we're all in sync the way women in college together all get their periods at the same time.
That's just gross.

 
Just catching up on a lot here. Sorry to hear for Pack, fish, Abe, Uruk. Hope things work out for shuke's wife. Congrats to Guster and Stu(?). Whichever is the appropriate wish for anyone I've missed.
Pretty much this.

Lot of bad news going around.
Seems like the thread goes in waves. Lots of bad at the same time, then lots of good. Like we're all in sync the way women in college together all get their periods at the same time.
That's just gross.
:lmao:

 
Just catching up on a lot here. Sorry to hear for Pack, fish, Abe, Uruk. Hope things work out for shuke's wife. Congrats to Guster and Stu(?). Whichever is the appropriate wish for anyone I've missed.
Pretty much this. Lot of bad news going around.
Seems like the thread goes in waves. Lots of bad at the same time, then lots of good. Like we're all in sync the way women in college together all get their periods at the same time.
That's hot
 
Just catching up on a lot here. Sorry to hear for Pack, fish, Abe, Uruk. Hope things work out for shuke's wife. Congrats to Guster and Stu(?). Whichever is the appropriate wish for anyone I've missed.
Pretty much this.

Lot of bad news going around.
Seems like the thread goes in waves. Lots of bad at the same time, then lots of good. Like we're all in sync the way women in college together all get their periods at the same time.
That's just gross.
Well, if it saves just one maxi-pad - my news is old; I've been posting about my dad's dementia for a while.

Other than that, my best wishes - as always - go out to my GMTAN brothers & sisters.

 
I've spent roughly the last 36 hours in bed with strep throat. I think I'm going crazy. I've watched a ton of crappy movies (made crockpot chicken to a young Reese Witherspoon and Alyssa Milano in "Fear") You would think with all these movie channels something good would come on. At one point Sideways was on Cinemax but after reading reviews here, I thought it might make me gay so I watched The Notebook instead.
:lmao:

 
Being over 40 means your hangovers (no matter how light or heavy) last all freaking day, huh?

I have a nagging assy feeling from downing that Flower Power growler last night. Just 1 growler. It's not a bad hangover at all, but damn it won't go away.

I'm terrified that when I see Gatsby later all the glitz and JayZ bass is going to make my head explode.

 
So week one at my new gig is in the books. We meditated like usual on Tuesday and Thursday but the got in a little extra meditation yesterday during an all day training/discussion with a member of our adjunct faculty that was in to talk to us about openness and self care.

My boss comes in every day between 8:30-9 and leaves at 3:30 when we are not running sessions for groups. Our sessions are usually about a week long and after a session they expect you to take a comp day to recuperate. Two of the other facilitators did a session in Europe last week and when our director saw them on Monday he told them to make sure to take comp time for their travel too.

Oh and when I showed up on Monday the rest of the staff had autographed this book that we are featured in. I think I might have found the perfect job for me :thumbup:
You guys hiring?

 
Ok, here's where I be a complete ****........

I think I mentioned here before that my father has dementia. The digression isn't linear, but it appears he eventually works his way backwards through his life - he's forgotten everything that happened in his 70s, then 60s, then 50s, etc..

He long ago forgot who my brother & I are. Until recently, he (mostly) knew my mother is his wife. But he's now running at about 17 years old, when he won a prize for the tobacco he raised. So, Mom is now just some woman in the house. He sometimes knows her name, but it's pretty random.

My father wasn't always the best, but I love him. Thing is, he's not "my dad" anymore - he's a dude who looks like him. His physical health is good, so he may live another decade or more.

How bad a person am I if I wish he wasn't in such good health?
Is it only the memory, or is he being malicious to others?

I can't imagine seeing your father go through this. My grandma had Alzheimer's and it was just horrible to witness.
I ask my mom every time I talk to her if he shows any signs of violence and she swears he doesn't. Nor have my brother & I seen it when we've been there. It's more like (teenaged) petulence when he perceives things out of kilter or is asked to do something he doesn't want to do.
I guess you have that to be thankful for.

 
Wife just had a mini breakdown and suggested she sell her car (no). Said she always had a feeling deep down that we were spending too much and she feels some of the blame. I explained that instead of blaming herself she needed to realize I was really good at hiding things and we need to move forward.
I bet you have a bunch of stuff you can liquidate on ebay/craigslist before you start looking at ditching a car. Does your wife work?

Have any whole life policies you can cash and convert to term?

 
I'm off to north Texas in the morning to visit the family for Mother's Day weekend. Should be a fun little trip. Grilling steaks with the old man tomorrow night in celebration of early Mother's Day. The tailgate bus is parked in his yard, so the evening will pretty much be a big bentley family tailgate party complete with washers, cornhole, the Rangers on the 60" outdoor TV and a ton of beer. May let JR have a turn driving the riding mower around the place since he's almost four.Usually we stop on the way up at the old train depot in West to let the boys play on the classic train cars but I think that place blew up so we'll have to find something else for them to do.
This sounds so incredibly awesome. I'm really jealous here.

 
Wife just had a mini breakdown and suggested she sell her car (no). Said she always had a feeling deep down that we were spending too much and she feels some of the blame. I explained that instead of blaming herself she needed to realize I was really good at hiding things and we need to move forward.
I bet you have a bunch of stuff you can liquidate on ebay/craigslist before you start looking at ditching a car. Does your wife work?

Have any whole life policies you can cash and convert to term?
His wife may want to keep the 'lots of money upon Abe's untimely death' asset...

 
Thanks all. We made it here. Currently at the in-laws farm. JR is riding 4wheelers with his cousins, Yuke is napping and I'm drinking in the hammock. I do have it pretty good.

Best of luck to Stu.

GB Abe - If there's ever ANYTHING I can do to help out (even if its just buying you a couple of pints and listening) let me know.

 
mr roboto said:
shuke said:
Abraham said:
Wife just had a mini breakdown and suggested she sell her car (no). Said she always had a feeling deep down that we were spending too much and she feels some of the blame. I explained that instead of blaming herself she needed to realize I was really good at hiding things and we need to move forward.
I bet you have a bunch of stuff you can liquidate on ebay/craigslist before you start looking at ditching a car. Does your wife work? Have any whole life policies you can cash and convert to term?
His wife may want to keep the 'lots of money upon Abe's untimely death' asset...
I have a fairly large life insurance policy that makes me worth a lot more dead than alive.
 
Thanks all. We made it here. Currently at the in-laws farm. JR is riding 4wheelers with his cousins, Yuke is napping and I'm drinking in the hammock. I do have it pretty good.Best of luck to Stu.GB Abe - If there's ever ANYTHING I can do to help out (even if its just buying you a couple of pints and listening) let me know.
does your company need any I/T help? ;)
 
I'm not looking for any sympathy, especially given those who have real problems right now, but I've been struggling a lot over the past few days.

First I was just sad about leaving my job. Sure, it was the second-worst job in the world, but I had made some extremely close connections with people and will miss them.

Then it turned into something I didn't at all expect. I had no idea how much I identified myself through what I do. I'm not just leaving a job but giving up a career I've had for 21 years and been successful in. I knew that not working 80-hour weeks would be jarring to me, but I didn't realize that I'd be in this "who the hell am I now" crisis.

1. I am shocked to find that my identity has been so tied up in what I did for a living.

2. I am mad at myself for allowing my identity to become so tied up in what I did.

3. I am mad at myself for not realizing that it had.

4. I am not sure how to self-identify any more.

Feels a little like a parallel (albeit in a better place, hence my not looking for sympathy) to Abe's situation where he is having to re-identify himself from "entrepreneur" to something else.

I'm pretty rattled and feel a bit lost.

 
I think all of those feelings are natural. My mom retired from 25 years of teaching to become a writer and within six months she was looking for ways to be around the school and her teaching colleagues and conferences. The biggest problem I've had personally is that I had my identity tied to being a small business owner, an entrepreneur, a person others around me envied because I made my own schedule and looked like I had it all. People would say "who is that successful and happy looking guy with the sweater vest? Look, he drinks cheap beer...he must be really good with the money."

I would suggest writing down some things you want to do/try in this life and see if there is a common theme. Like to travel? Start a blog where you can write your own musings and observations about places. Like cooking? Do the same. Like to paint? Find a co op and get to know some other artists. If you are like me, "what you do" will always instinctively be part of your identity. A big part. But you have a chance now to craft a new identity exactly as you want. There is a lot of Awesome in saying "I used to be a big shot corporate lawyer and i left on my terms to learn how to knit cat sweaters because I wanted to." That identity makes you unique and cool and (most importantly) proud of the identity you have instead of simply accepting it.

 
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I think all of those feelings are natural. My mom retired from 25 years of teaching to become a writer and within six months she was looking for ways to be around the school and her teaching colleagues and conferences. The biggest problem I've had personally is that I had my identity tied to being a small business owner, an entrepreneur, a person others around me envied because I made my own schedule and looked like I had it all. People would say "who is that successful and happy looking guy with the sweater vest? Look, he drinks cheap beer...he must be really good with the money."I would suggest writing down some things you want to do/try in this life and see if there is a common theme. Like to travel? Start a blog where you can write your own musings and observations about places. Like cooking? Do the same. Like to paint? Find a co op and get to know some other artists. If you are like me, "what you do" will always instinctively be part of your identity. A big part. But you have a chance now to craft a new identity exactly as you want. There is a lot of Awesome in saying "I used to be a big shot corporate lawyer and i left on my terms to learn how to knit cat sweaters because I wanted to." That identity makes you unique and cool and (most importantly) proud of the identity you have instead of simply accepting it.
Wow, you nailed it. Love your ideas in the second paragraph, too. It is an opportunity to identify myself the way I wish to, rather than the way I'd been told all along I should (i.e., I became a lawyer in the first place not because I wanted to). Of course, the problem is I don't know what that is, but I guess it's great to have the opportunity to figure it out. Thanks for the very thoughtful response.
 
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The reason it was so much of your identity is because you had the impression that you were good/successful at it. I'm sure you were, but that naturally meant a lot more to you than others. You didn't identify with being a lawyer; you identified with being a GOOD lawyer. No one is proud of their identity when they suck at their job; instead their identity becomes "I'm joe's dad" or "I'm really active in my church." People identify with the successful parts of their lives and when those parts change, it certainly is jarring.

So like i said: find something else to be passionate about and give yourself to it. Not 80 hours a week, but something to commit to. If I had had the good fortune to have sold my business and been in your situation, I think I would have either tried to get serious about xomputer coding or tried to re-learn Chinese.

 
You'll find you worry a lot less about the identity part if you have something to commit to that makes you proud. Hell, go to school and get a degree in engineering or hang out with a fishing guide and learn about boats or volunteer at a charitable cause.

 
The reason it was so much of your identity is because you had the impression that you were good/successful at it. I'm sure you were, but that naturally meant a lot more to you than others. You didn't identify with being a lawyer; you identified with being a GOOD lawyer. No one is proud of their identity when they suck at their job; instead their identity becomes "I'm joe's dad" or "I'm really active in my church." People identify with the successful parts of their lives and when those parts change, it certainly is jarring.So like i said: find something else to be passionate about and give yourself to it. Not 80 hours a week, but something to commit to. If I had had the good fortune to have sold my business and been in your situation, I think I would have either tried to get serious about xomputer coding or tried to re-learn Chinese.
You're incredibly perceptive on this stuff. First paragraph is spot-on, and I suppose part of what's scary now is giving up something I was outstanding at, and thinking maybe that's the thing I'm best at in the world and I won't hit that height again. Yikes, what an awful thought.

Again, sincere thanks. Your posts have been really helpful. I feel like #### but this helps me in processing that.

 
You'll find you worry a lot less about the identity part if you have something to commit to that makes you proud. Hell, go to school and get a degree in engineering or hang out with a fishing guide and learn about boats or volunteer at a charitable cause.
Well, the whole idea in Nicaragua was to spend my time volunteering, and I'd identified the particular organization with whom I wanted to work. I just hope that it does become something I'm passionate about.

 
The reason it was so much of your identity is because you had the impression that you were good/successful at it. I'm sure you were, but that naturally meant a lot more to you than others. You didn't identify with being a lawyer; you identified with being a GOOD lawyer. No one is proud of their identity when they suck at their job; instead their identity becomes "I'm joe's dad" or "I'm really active in my church." People identify with the successful parts of their lives and when those parts change, it certainly is jarring.So like i said: find something else to be passionate about and give yourself to it. Not 80 hours a week, but something to commit to. If I had had the good fortune to have sold my business and been in your situation, I think I would have either tried to get serious about xomputer coding or tried to re-learn Chinese.
You're incredibly perceptive on this stuff. First paragraph is spot-on, and I suppose part of what's scary now is giving up something I was outstanding at, and thinking maybe that's the thing I'm best at in the world and I won't hit that height again. Yikes, what an awful thought. Again, sincere thanks. Your posts have been really helpful. I feel like #### but this helps me in processing that.
Slight tangent but it sort of applies: I think the reason people (men primarily) are quick to forgive athletes like tiger woods and Lebron James is because of the "lofty heights" you mention. Those guys are better at what they do than most guys will ever be at anything; so when they stumble we hope they get back up and when they fail we get mad because we want them to live up to their ability. After a few years it became somewhat quantifiable to you that you were a good lawyer. Winning judgements, increased billings, more prestigious jobs. You could see that you were moving "up and to the right" on the great graph of life. The real challenge now is understanding that the things you will do likely don't have the same score board you are used to. How will you know if you are Making a difference? Will it be enough? How do you know that someone else couldn't do better?You won't. You have the blessing and the curse of waking up every morning and getting to look in the mirror and judge yourself. Are you doing what you should be? Are you doing it the best you can? Why not? My wife is an amazing person and it comes back to one thing; she has never not done her best at something. She can live happily (except when dealing with my issues) because she does her best and she knows it and she knows that is all she can do and no one else's judgements matter.So good luck. It will not be easy. You will have days where you try to convince yourself that you belong back in a board room or court room because you haven't quote found the write direction to point the rudder. But (at the risk of sounding gay) the most important thing won't be where the rudder points; it will be that you are proud and happy to have chosen the direction in the first place.Eta: I am probably babbling but it is helping me too to get some of this out, so thanks.
 
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Thanks all. We made it here. Currently at the in-laws farm. JR is riding 4wheelers with his cousins, Yuke is napping and I'm drinking in the hammock. I do have it pretty good.Best of luck to Stu.GB Abe - If there's ever ANYTHING I can do to help out (even if its just buying you a couple of pints and listening) let me know.
does your company need any I/T help? ;)
I thought about that. We have hundreds of IT people. I'm pretty sure we don't talk to anyone unless they're also sufficiently huge. I'll still make a couple informal inquiries.
 
You'll find you worry a lot less about the identity part if you have something to commit to that makes you proud. Hell, go to school and get a degree in engineering or hang out with a fishing guide and learn about boats or volunteer at a charitable cause.
Well, the whole idea in Nicaragua was to spend my time volunteering, and I'd identified the particular organization with whom I wanted to work. I just hope that it does become something I'm passionate about.
The speadsheet that TF made identifies you as "Baroness of Nicaragua". So just go with that for now.

 
Thanks all. We made it here. Currently at the in-laws farm. JR is riding 4wheelers with his cousins, Yuke is napping and I'm drinking in the hammock. I do have it pretty good.Best of luck to Stu.GB Abe - If there's ever ANYTHING I can do to help out (even if its just buying you a couple of pints and listening) let me know.
does your company need any I/T help? ;)
I thought about that. We have hundreds of IT people. I'm pretty sure we don't talk to anyone unless they're also sufficiently huge. I'll still make a couple informal inquiries.
At a minimum lets find a way for me to drag you a couple possible decision makers out to lunch to discuss "augmenting" their current efforts. My boss will be impressed that I'm trying to bag some elephants to go along with our sweet spot (50-200 employees).
 
-fish- said:
Waiting to get a cast put on. Daughter just asked if she can have a pogo stick for her birthday
:lmao: :lmao: I hope she gets feeling better soon GB.

Bob Sacamano said:
I refuse to even congratulate him. He KNOWS better, dammit.
Worse than when Barry Sanders retired.

Gadzooks said:
I've spent roughly the last 36 hours in bed
I went to bed last night at 11:00 PM and Mrs. SLB just woke me up at 3:00 PM. I'm still tired.

 

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