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Gorilla Rescues Toddler at Zoo, Gorilla Euthanized (1 Viewer)

Buzzbait said:
Settle down Francis. I think you're overreacting. If you're so offended that I called your post "ridicules" (because there was no other "attack") then you may need to grow a second skin.

I'm typically very measured in my responses but when people continue to put forth "opinions" that it's in any way shape or form OK to guess the gorilla's intentions (because that's exactly what it is) and put a child at risk then yeah...I'm going to call that notion ridicules. You know who else agrees with me? Jack Hanna, Julia Gallucci (primatologist for PETA...yeah that's right PETA!!) and Jerry Stones (Harambee's original keeper). They apparently understand that human beings trump a 450lb unpredictable animals who can crush coconut's ease.

You want to question the idea that animals should keep in captivity or that the enclosure wasn't adequate then that's an intelligent discussion to be had. You want to double, triple or quadruple down on what needed to be done to guarantee the safety of a human being then I'm going to call it ridicules (doubling down).
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They're all on zoo payrolls, of course they're going to say the zoos acted correctly. Jack Hannah is a spokesperson and Budweiser/Busch Gardens has him on a monkey leash/payroll so pipe down Francis and learn to think for yourself instead of what you are socially engineered to think and feel good about by Jack F.n Hannah. 

But see that's the only discussion you encourage, validity and damnation of everyone involved instead of the real issue, you come see the animals you take the risk. Keep your kids on a leash or they're going to be eaten, survival of the fittest and the apes are at a disadvantage to start with I would say, you actually have to seek them out, I've never been approached by any animals when I go to the zoo. 

 
I'm asking this question earnestly with no agenda or judgment. This was a tragic event where a mother made a mistake many parents can easily make, the zoo made the only proper choice to make and it all just sucks.

Got that out of way...anyway, how many kids is too many to take to the zoo, when one is three years old? I'm not a parent, but I've seen these moms scrambling trying to keep up with a couple of rugrats at a time in public. Four at a zoo (not know the other ages) seems like recipe for constantly "taking your eye off for just a second".

 
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pollardsvision said:
I'm asking this question earnestly with no agenda or judgment. This was a tragic event where a mother made a mistake many parents can easily make, the zoo made the only proper choice to make and it all just sucks.

Got that out of way...anyway, how many kids is too many to take to the zoo, when one is three years old? I'm not a parent, but I've seen these moms scrambling trying to keep up with a couple of rugrats at a time in public. Four at a zoo (not know the other ages) seems like recipe for constantly "taking your eye off for just a second".
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is there a reason groups of kids cant be tethered at these places?

I think it should be a requirement 

 
Ministry of Pain said:
 I've never been approached by any animals when I go to the zoo. 
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And some people say animals are stupid.   ;)

Seriously, though, my family has had some pretty funny/cool interactions with animals at the zoo when they're on the other side of glass. 

 
shuke said:
You can't.  So don't.  The end.
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But one can reason from the video he wasn't trying to eat the 4 year old. 

I'm not really sure how the 4 year old survived, it was a miracle he likely made it as long as he did. I still don't think the Gorilla should have been shot and I'm not alone in that POV so it's not the end of the Shukyline, Nati-boy. 

 
Guys there was a dead skunk on the side of the road this morning. And it was all stupid humans that caused it.

A tragedy.  But we soldier on. 

 
Buzzbait said:
Settle down Francis. I think you're overreacting. If you're so offended that I called your post "ridicules" (because there was no other "attack") then you may need to grow a second skin.

I'm typically very measured in my responses but when people continue to put forth "opinions" that it's in any way shape or form OK to guess the gorilla's intentions (because that's exactly what it is) and put a child at risk then yeah...I'm going to call that notion ridicules. You know who else agrees with me? Jack Hanna, Julia Gallucci (primatologist for PETA...yeah that's right PETA!!) and Jerry Stones (Harambee's original keeper). They apparently understand that human beings trump a 450lb unpredictable animals who can crush coconut's ease.

You want to question the idea that animals should keep in captivity or that the enclosure wasn't adequate then that's an intelligent discussion to be had. You want to double, triple or quadruple down on what needed to be done to guarantee the safety of a human being then I'm going to call it ridicules (doubling down).
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Your responses may be measured, but they're certainly not spell-checked.   :P

 
pollardsvision said:
I'm asking this question earnestly with no agenda or judgment. This was a tragic event where a mother made a mistake many parents can easily make, the zoo made the only proper choice to make and it all just sucks.

Got that out of way...anyway, how many kids is too many to take to the zoo, when one is three years old? I'm not a parent, but I've seen these moms scrambling trying to keep up with a couple of rugrats at a time in public. Four at a zoo (not know the other ages) seems like recipe for constantly "taking your eye off for just a second".
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I'm a parent of one and one is the answer. 

 
cstu said:
I'm a parent of one and one is the answer. 
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:D This is true in my experience as well.  I've gone on trips where I was one of a handful of adults watching over a hoard/herd/murder/pack of children and man oh man is it tiring trying to keep up with all of them.  One is plenty.

 
Otis said:
Phew glad we're still arguing about this. 
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Seriously guys, there are much more important threads out there that are only twice as long as this one... about potatoes.

 
pollardsvision said:
I'm asking this question earnestly with no agenda or judgment. This was a tragic event where a mother made a mistake many parents can easily make, the zoo made the only proper choice to make and it all just sucks.

Got that out of way...anyway, how many kids is too many to take to the zoo, when one is three years old? I'm not a parent, but I've seen these moms scrambling trying to keep up with a couple of rugrats at a time in public. Four at a zoo (not know the other ages) seems like recipe for constantly "taking your eye off for just a second".
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The boring answer is that it depends on the kids.

I had no problem taking my two to the zoo on my own when they were that age - not because I'm such a great parent, but because my daughter was always the kind of kid who you only had to tell once not to leave your side and my son is/was just plain risk-averse.  Seriously, he's the odd boy who would't even consider climbing over a two-foot fence with a squirrel on the other side, let alone go through fence/bushes/moat to get closer to a freakin' gorilla.

 
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