Grabbing someone else's handcuff (1 Viewer)

[Texican]

We had our draft this past weekend and a couple of guys let their handcuffs fall pretty far. (ie Turner and Bennett).

What is your strategy if you are able to grab someone else's handcuff. They likely will not give too much, but they still want that guy. Do you try to hold them ransom and make the owner overpay? Or just hang on and wait for LT, etc to go down?

 

[BoulderBob]

In my league, we can keep 7 running backs, and it just so happens my #6/7 spots were used on Maroney and M. Morris. Due to the large rosters, I'm thinking it would be wise to hold onto to both.

 

[moleculo]

We had our draft this past weekend and a couple of guys let their handcuffs fall pretty far. (ie Turner and Bennett). What is your strategy if you are able to grab someone else's handcuff. They likely will not give too much, but they still want that guy. Do you try to hold them ransom and make the owner overpay? Or just hang on and wait for LT, etc to go down?

I've never understood why anyone would want to grab someone elses handcuff. To me, fantasy football isn't fun if I am rooting for someone to get hurt, and that's basically what having Turner w/o LT2 on your roster means.Odds are LT2 will be healthy all year, and Turner won't be any significance - so why draft him?edit to add: IMO, the only reasonable handcuffs to have are guys who will see some playing time and have a legit chance to overtake the starter, or both halves of a RBBC.

 

[Texican]

I agree that he likely will not play a role. But he is worht more the the LT owner that to others. So I guess what do you try to pull from them?

I disagree that you have to root for someone to get hurt, it's just a wise move to pickup backups in good systems (IMO).

 

[paz1]

I agree that he likely will not play a role. But he is worht more the the LT owner that to others. So I guess what do you try to pull from them? I disagree that you have to root for someone to get hurt, it's just a wise move to pickup backups in good systems (IMO).

Agree here.The LT owner let Turner slide pretty far so I grabbed him off the crap heap that was left at RB.

 

[BoulderBob]

We had our draft this past weekend and a couple of guys let their handcuffs fall pretty far. (ie Turner and Bennett). What is your strategy if you are able to grab someone else's handcuff. They likely will not give too much, but they still want that guy. Do you try to hold them ransom and make the owner overpay? Or just hang on and wait for LT, etc to go down?

I've never understood why anyone would want to grab someone elses handcuff. To me, fantasy football isn't fun if I am rooting for someone to get hurt, and that's basically what having Turner w/o LT2 on your roster means.Odds are LT2 will be healthy all year, and Turner won't be any significance - so why draft him?edit to add: IMO, the only reasonable handcuffs to have are guys who will see some playing time and have a legit chance to overtake the starter, or both halves of a RBBC.

The elite handcuff RB's are certainly investments that have a high chance of turning to dirt, nevertheless, the potential to put up numbers during the second half of the season is too tempting to pass on.

 

[Captain Quinoa]

We had our draft this past weekend and a couple of guys let their handcuffs fall pretty far. (ie Turner and Bennett). What is your strategy if you are able to grab someone else's handcuff. They likely will not give too much, but they still want that guy. Do you try to hold them ransom and make the owner overpay? Or just hang on and wait for LT, etc to go down?

I've never understood why anyone would want to grab someone elses handcuff. To me, fantasy football isn't fun if I am rooting for someone to get hurt, and that's basically what having Turner w/o LT2 on your roster means.Odds are LT2 will be healthy all year, and Turner won't be any significance - so why draft him?edit to add: IMO, the only reasonable handcuffs to have are guys who will see some playing time and have a legit chance to overtake the starter, or both halves of a RBBC.

The elite handcuff RB's are certainly investments that have a high chance of turning to dirt, nevertheless, the potential to put up numbers during the second half of the season is too tempting to pass on.

what potential? it's not tempting at all to have Turner or Morris on my bench all year. now someone like maroney or d williams who has a legit shot to play and possibly earn more playing time could be worth having.

 

[datonn]

My only strategy is "Best Player Available", period. If Turner, M. Morris, Bennett or other handcuffs are the best player on the board, you draft them. If they aren't you don't. That makes draft day/night a heck of a lot easier for Yours Truly.....

 

[CalBear]

I've never understood why anyone would want to grab someone elses handcuff. To me, fantasy football isn't fun if I am rooting for someone to get hurt, and that's basically what having Turner w/o LT2 on your roster means.Odds are LT2 will be healthy all year, and Turner won't be any significance - so why draft him?

Because it's better to have a 10% chance at top-5 production and an 90% chance of top-10 production than the 100% chance of top-10 production you get by handcuffing your own guy.

 

[Captain Quinoa]

I've never understood why anyone would want to grab someone elses handcuff. To me, fantasy football isn't fun if I am rooting for someone to get hurt, and that's basically what having Turner w/o LT2 on your roster means.Odds are LT2 will be healthy all year, and Turner won't be any significance - so why draft him?

Because it's better to have a 10% chance at top-5 production and an 90% chance of top-10 production than the 100% chance of top-10 production you get by handcuffing your own guy.

wha?

 

[Big Petey]

We had our draft this past weekend and a couple of guys let their handcuffs fall pretty far. (ie Turner and Bennett). What is your strategy if you are able to grab someone else's handcuff. They likely will not give too much, but they still want that guy. Do you try to hold them ransom and make the owner overpay? Or just hang on and wait for LT, etc to go down?

I've never understood why anyone would want to grab someone elses handcuff. To me, fantasy football isn't fun if I am rooting for someone to get hurt, and that's basically what having Turner w/o LT2 on your roster means.Odds are LT2 will be healthy all year, and Turner won't be any significance - so why draft him?edit to add: IMO, the only reasonable handcuffs to have are guys who will see some playing time and have a legit chance to overtake the starter, or both halves of a RBBC.

The elite handcuff RB's are certainly investments that have a high chance of turning to dirt, nevertheless, the potential to put up numbers during the second half of the season is too tempting to pass on.

what potential? it's not tempting at all to have Turner or Morris on my bench all year. now someone like maroney or d williams who has a legit shot to play and possibly earn more playing time could be worth having.

Tell that to the guy who grabbed LJ in my league last year when the Priest owner let him slip too far.........................not to mention we keep ONE player!!

 

[TommyGilmore]

You need to factor in the following things:

- odds of the starter getting hurt

- odds of the backup actually becoming a stud

- odds of the backup winning the job outright (for guys like Addai, etc.)

Some handcuffs have little value simply because they wouldn't be very productive as starters anyway. Those are the guys that you want to get rid of ASAP for whatever you can get. If you can convert a 16th-round scrub handcuff for a 9th round WR, you should jump on that.

However, some handcuffs are worth holding on to. These are the guys that you just KNOW are going to go off if they ever get ahold of the starting job (i.e., Cedric Benson). Personally, I wouldn't give up these guys unless it seriously improved my starting lineup.

Then again........I almost traded Larry Johnson in Week 5 of last year........but the other guy wouldn't give up a #1 WR for him. Oh well.

 

[CalBear]

I've never understood why anyone would want to grab someone elses handcuff. To me, fantasy football isn't fun if I am rooting for someone to get hurt, and that's basically what having Turner w/o LT2 on your roster means.Odds are LT2 will be healthy all year, and Turner won't be any significance - so why draft him?

Because it's better to have a 10% chance at top-5 production and an 90% chance of top-10 production than the 100% chance of top-10 production you get by handcuffing your own guy.

wha?

If you have, say, Clinton Portis, and you handcuff him with Ladell Betts, you are guaranteeing yourself at least decent production from the Washington offense. If instead you have Portis and you pick up Turner, you are giving yourself a shot at having two stud backs, in exchange for taking on the risk that you lose Washington's RB production if Portis goes down.Handcuffing your own RB is a conservative, reduce-downside move. Handcuffing someone else's is an aggressive, look-for-upside move.

 

[Captain Quinoa]

We had our draft this past weekend and a couple of guys let their handcuffs fall pretty far. (ie Turner and Bennett). What is your strategy if you are able to grab someone else's handcuff. They likely will not give too much, but they still want that guy. Do you try to hold them ransom and make the owner overpay? Or just hang on and wait for LT, etc to go down?

I've never understood why anyone would want to grab someone elses handcuff. To me, fantasy football isn't fun if I am rooting for someone to get hurt, and that's basically what having Turner w/o LT2 on your roster means.Odds are LT2 will be healthy all year, and Turner won't be any significance - so why draft him?edit to add: IMO, the only reasonable handcuffs to have are guys who will see some playing time and have a legit chance to overtake the starter, or both halves of a RBBC.

The elite handcuff RB's are certainly investments that have a high chance of turning to dirt, nevertheless, the potential to put up numbers during the second half of the season is too tempting to pass on.

what potential? it's not tempting at all to have Turner or Morris on my bench all year. now someone like maroney or d williams who has a legit shot to play and possibly earn more playing time could be worth having.

Tell that to the guy who grabbed LJ in my league last year when the Priest owner let him slip too far.........................not to mention we keep ONE player!!

uhhh, we knew LJ was going to play last year plus holmes was a huge injury risk in a ridiculously high scoring fantasy RB offense. NOt exactly the same as rostering Maurice Morris when you don't have SA.

 

[moleculo]

I've never understood why anyone would want to grab someone elses handcuff. To me, fantasy football isn't fun if I am rooting for someone to get hurt, and that's basically what having Turner w/o LT2 on your roster means.Odds are LT2 will be healthy all year, and Turner won't be any significance - so why draft him?

Because it's better to have a 10% chance at top-5 production and an 90% chance of top-10 production than the 100% chance of top-10 production you get by handcuffing your own guy.

wha?

If you have, say, Clinton Portis, and you handcuff him with Ladell Betts, you are guaranteeing yourself at least decent production from the Washington offense. If instead you have Portis and you pick up Turner, you are giving yourself a shot at having two stud backs, in exchange for taking on the risk that you lose Washington's RB production if Portis goes down.Handcuffing your own RB is a conservative, reduce-downside move. Handcuffing someone else's is an aggressive, look-for-upside move.

I agree - handcuffing your own players is a very smart thing to do. Handcuffing someone elses is a wasted roster spot. To me, it's worth two roster spots to have the SD or WAS rushing attack sewn up, no matter what. It's not worth burning an extra roster spot, however, on the 1 in 50 chance that LT goes down with a significant injury when I don't have LT.

 

[moleculo]

We had our draft this past weekend and a couple of guys let their handcuffs fall pretty far. (ie Turner and Bennett). What is your strategy if you are able to grab someone else's handcuff. They likely will not give too much, but they still want that guy. Do you try to hold them ransom and make the owner overpay? Or just hang on and wait for LT, etc to go down?

I've never understood why anyone would want to grab someone elses handcuff. To me, fantasy football isn't fun if I am rooting for someone to get hurt, and that's basically what having Turner w/o LT2 on your roster means.Odds are LT2 will be healthy all year, and Turner won't be any significance - so why draft him?edit to add: IMO, the only reasonable handcuffs to have are guys who will see some playing time and have a legit chance to overtake the starter, or both halves of a RBBC.

The elite handcuff RB's are certainly investments that have a high chance of turning to dirt, nevertheless, the potential to put up numbers during the second half of the season is too tempting to pass on.

what potential? it's not tempting at all to have Turner or Morris on my bench all year. now someone like maroney or d williams who has a legit shot to play and possibly earn more playing time could be worth having.

Tell that to the guy who grabbed LJ in my league last year when the Priest owner let him slip too far.........................not to mention we keep ONE player!!

uhhh, we knew LJ was going to play last year plus holmes was a huge injury risk in a ridiculously high scoring fantasy RB offense. NOt exactly the same as rostering Maurice Morris when you don't have SA.

exactly. We all knew LJ was gonna get PT last year. LJ from last year falls into the "legit chance to overtake the starter" category.

 

[Captain Quinoa]

I've never understood why anyone would want to grab someone elses handcuff. To me, fantasy football isn't fun if I am rooting for someone to get hurt, and that's basically what having Turner w/o LT2 on your roster means.Odds are LT2 will be healthy all year, and Turner won't be any significance - so why draft him?

Because it's better to have a 10% chance at top-5 production and an 90% chance of top-10 production than the 100% chance of top-10 production you get by handcuffing your own guy.

wha?

If you have, say, Clinton Portis, and you handcuff him with Ladell Betts, you are guaranteeing yourself at least decent production from the Washington offense. If instead you have Portis and you pick up Turner, you are giving yourself a shot at having two stud backs, in exchange for taking on the risk that you lose Washington's RB production if Portis goes down.Handcuffing your own RB is a conservative, reduce-downside move. Handcuffing someone else's is an aggressive, look-for-upside move.

gotcha.look, if you have roster space then by all means hoard any quality backup you can. most leagues you can't afford to waste the roster space, especially when injuries and bye weeks start happening.

 

[CalBear]

I agree - handcuffing your own players is a very smart thing to do. Handcuffing someone elses is a wasted roster spot. To me, it's worth two roster spots to have the SD or WAS rushing attack sewn up, no matter what. It's not worth burning an extra roster spot, however, on the 1 in 50 chance that LT goes down with a significant injury when I don't have LT.

You're agreeing with something I didn't say.I think handcuffing Portis with Betts is a waste of time. Betts will not put up anything near Portis' numbers; if your first-round draft pick goes down and the best you can do is plug in Ladell Betts, you're not going to win your Super Bowl anyway. Except in cases where I think my backup will perform at the same level as my starter (which are quite rare), I would rather have someone else's backup for the upside potential.

 

[Reaper]

I've never understood why anyone would want to grab someone elses handcuff.

Personally, i don't call it "grabbing Somone Else's Handcuff" and I don't root for injuries...BUT, I do rank the players and every player has a value - when it's time to draft Turner, I draft him PERIOD. He has a certain value - Figure out what value YOU place on him and draft him, don't worry about other owners feelings, maybe next year, if they value handcuffs a little more they will handcuff their players.I've always been known to place a high value on certain backups - By now, people in my league should know better and it's not right for them to load up on the best Kickers and Defenses or whatever the hell they are reaching for when they should hancuff and then cry later.No one should take that personally, for the most part I'm not doing that TO a person - Though sometimes I do

 

[Dirty Weasel]

One of my decisions in whether or not to handcuff that hasn't been brought up yet is the possibility that the backup may get traded and become a starter net year, ala Michael Turner.

 

[moleculo]

I agree - handcuffing your own players is a very smart thing to do. Handcuffing someone elses is a wasted roster spot. To me, it's worth two roster spots to have the SD or WAS rushing attack sewn up, no matter what. It's not worth burning an extra roster spot, however, on the 1 in 50 chance that LT goes down with a significant injury when I don't have LT.

You're agreeing with something I didn't say.I think handcuffing Portis with Betts is a waste of time. Betts will not put up anything near Portis' numbers; if your first-round draft pick goes down and the best you can do is plug in Ladell Betts, you're not going to win your Super Bowl anyway. Except in cases where I think my backup will perform at the same level as my starter (which are quite rare), I would rather have someone else's backup for the upside potential.

sorry - I mis-read. Drafting turner when you have portis gives you a very good chance of having zero production, should Portis get hurt and LT stays healthy. While Betts probably won't set the world on fire, he should at least be good enough to be a servicable RB2 for most teams.

 

[Reaper]

Handcuffing someone elses is a wasted roster spot.

I've done quite well over the years grabbing backup RB's. To each is own but, to me, these players have Value... They are RB's that are a play away from being a starter and my rosters are usually littered with them which has brought a pretty good track record of success.Hey, Injuries happen - You CAN plan for it and factor it into your VBD..... To me it's one of my Golden Rules of FF to get depth at RB with valuable backups with Great POTENTIAL later on.The more people who agree with that above statement, the better I think it is for Fantasy GM's like myself.... I'm not saying grab them all but, I always target a few each year.

 

[GregR_2]

I agree - handcuffing your own players is a very smart thing to do. Handcuffing someone elses is a wasted roster spot. To me, it's worth two roster spots to have the SD or WAS rushing attack sewn up, no matter what. It's not worth burning an extra roster spot, however, on the 1 in 50 chance that LT goes down with a significant injury when I don't have LT.

I think this is much too simplistic of an answer. There are times it is a worthwhile strategy and times that it isn't. I think the main factors that affect it are: Roster size: Smaller rosters, vulturing is less worthwhile because there is more quality on waivers and you need the roster space for your own needs.Depth of the team you are vulturing from: The less depth the guy has, the more important his handcuffs are to him, and so the more you can hurt him by taking them.Likelihood the handcuff can emerge as a starter: Obviously, the better the quality of the backup, or the better the situation, the more value he has to your own team.Ok, so let me apply this. Real draft, a guy had LT as a keeper for a few years, and picked up LJ in the draft last year. So he had LT and LJ this year. I was filling in for an owner who couldn't be there. The guy with LJ and LT doesn't take a backup RB through round 7 or 8. So I swipe Turner, and in my smack talk as each pick is made, I'm sure to drop a few references as to how few worthwhile RBs there were left. The backup RB run that ensued was just what I'd been hoping for. Now the guy who had a huge edge from his keepers is counting on Pittman and Haynes as his backups. If he loses LT or LJ, he probably doesn't even have a 2nd RB worth starting. It's his own fault for not worrying about a backup at all, but that's my point... the less depth the guy has, the more risk you can create on his team by vulturing his handcuff. And the more RBs that get put onto other rosters, the harder it is for him to fill that void you created for him.

 

[⚡DEADHEAD⚡]

One of my decisions in whether or not to handcuff that hasn't been brought up yet is the possibility that the backup may get traded and become a starter net year, ala Michael Turner.

Another reason: 11 rounds into a 12-owner league, my team was looking good but probably not good enough to compete for the title. I'll need a break or two so I grabbed Turner in case LT goes down. I took him at a higher ADP than he normally goes but if LT goes down, I suddenly have a #1 pick. It's a gamble, it's aggressive and it's the type of move I need to make to win.

 

[Reaper]

My only strategy is "Best Player Available", period. If Turner, M. Morris, Bennett or other handcuffs are the best player on the board, you draft them. If they aren't you don't. That makes draft day/night a heck of a lot easier for Yours Truly.....

I missed this but, yeah - YOU get it.

 

[Big Petey]

We had our draft this past weekend and a couple of guys let their handcuffs fall pretty far. (ie Turner and Bennett). What is your strategy if you are able to grab someone else's handcuff. They likely will not give too much, but they still want that guy. Do you try to hold them ransom and make the owner overpay? Or just hang on and wait for LT, etc to go down?

I've never understood why anyone would want to grab someone elses handcuff. To me, fantasy football isn't fun if I am rooting for someone to get hurt, and that's basically what having Turner w/o LT2 on your roster means.Odds are LT2 will be healthy all year, and Turner won't be any significance - so why draft him?edit to add: IMO, the only reasonable handcuffs to have are guys who will see some playing time and have a legit chance to overtake the starter, or both halves of a RBBC.

The elite handcuff RB's are certainly investments that have a high chance of turning to dirt, nevertheless, the potential to put up numbers during the second half of the season is too tempting to pass on.

what potential? it's not tempting at all to have Turner or Morris on my bench all year. now someone like maroney or d williams who has a legit shot to play and possibly earn more playing time could be worth having.

Tell that to the guy who grabbed LJ in my league last year when the Priest owner let him slip too far.........................not to mention we keep ONE player!!

uhhh, we knew LJ was going to play last year plus holmes was a huge injury risk in a ridiculously high scoring fantasy RB offense. NOt exactly the same as rostering Maurice Morris when you don't have SA.

Yes, he was going to play............but he was still nothing more than a handcuff, if Holmes stays healthy all season. So, unless you "knew" Holmes was going to have a season-ending injury, then there was still a risk in drafting Johnson. And, if you ARE able to predict the future, then you shouldn't have any problems making your handcuffing decisions!

 

[fornov]

I drafted Shaun Alexander in the 13th round in 2001. He was a second year guy stuck behind Ricky Watters, but everyone said he had a lot of talent. I went on to a 15-2 record that year (no playoff system in that league back then).

If you thik a guy like Turner is good (and I do think he is very good), draft him and keep him on your bench. If nothing happens to the starter for a few weeks, you could always consider trading him at that point, too. A lot of times, you don't even have to make the offer, as the guy with Tomlinson will get nervous when he hears about a strained groin or bruised foot, and wants to go get the backup. You might get a lot more out of him at that point.

Or you could just keep the backup on your bench and wait for the starter to get injured. I was in a league in 2004 where the defending champ, drafting at the turn, took Manning and Harrison. He then got Curtis Martin (gold mine that year) in the 3rd round, and loaded up on WR's for the next 3 rounds. Then he started drafting everyone's handcuffs. He ended the draft with about 8 RB's, but only the one starter. Throughout the year, whenever a stud RB was injured, this guy could just plug in that handcuff and get starter-quality points. Eventually he made some trades for better starters and defended his championship successfully. It was a strategy I'd never seen before, and I'll never forget. Just something to think about.

 

[Mordraken]

My only strategy is "Best Player Available", period. If Turner, M. Morris, Bennett or other handcuffs are the best player on the board, you draft them. If they aren't you don't. That makes draft day/night a heck of a lot easier for Yours Truly.....

IMO this is the most correct answer. If you're drafting late in your draft, and RBs #1 - 40 are all gone, along with the top 20 Qbs, 12 Ks, 15 Def's and top 50 WRs, you're looking at players like Turner/Maroney or Duce Staley/Barlow/Gado as a RB#4, you go for what you think will give you the biggest boost. If LT gets injured, then you have a starting RB. If LT remains healthy, you have a bench player. Chances are throughout the year you'll drop (or trade) this guy when you need someone to cover a bye. Bottom line is - you're probably not drafting a "handcuff" to be a ##### - you're drafting them because they'll add value to your team - either through starting them or having them to trade.

 

[Captain Quinoa]

Tell that to the guy who grabbed LJ in my league last year when the Priest owner let him slip too far.........................not to mention we keep ONE player!!

uhhh, we knew LJ was going to play last year plus holmes was a huge injury risk in a ridiculously high scoring fantasy RB offense. NOt exactly the same as rostering Maurice Morris when you don't have SA.

Yes, he was going to play............but he was still nothing more than a handcuff, if Holmes stays healthy all season.

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[Big Petey]

Tell that to the guy who grabbed LJ in my league last year when the Priest owner let him slip too far.........................not to mention we keep ONE player!!

uhhh, we knew LJ was going to play last year plus holmes was a huge injury risk in a ridiculously high scoring fantasy RB offense. NOt exactly the same as rostering Maurice Morris when you don't have SA.

Yes, he was going to play............but he was still nothing more than a handcuff, if Holmes stays healthy all season.

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Then why, at this time last year, was Holmes ranked #3 and Johnson ranked #33??Going into drafts last year, Johnson was NOT predicted to get enough playing time to warrant a starting spot in fantasy line-ups.

 

[Sabertooth]

Free here on out, let's refer to grabbing somebody else's handcuff as fingercuffing.

 

[CalBear]

sorry - I mis-read. Drafting turner when you have portis gives you a very good chance of having zero production, should Portis get hurt and LT stays healthy. While Betts probably won't set the world on fire, he should at least be good enough to be a servicable RB2 for most teams.

Assuming Portis and LT are equally likely to get hurt, you have an equal chance of zero production drafting Betts or Turner. If you drafted Portis and he gets hurt, and all you have left is a pair of servicable RB2s, you lose anyway.

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

A handcuff in the later rounds is more valuable to me than just another scrub player who I probably won't start anyway. If it's someone else's handcuff there's better incentive for a trade, especially if they're deep in a postion you're hurting at.

 

[GregR_2]

sorry - I mis-read. Drafting turner when you have portis gives you a very good chance of having zero production, should Portis get hurt and LT stays healthy. While Betts probably won't set the world on fire, he should at least be good enough to be a servicable RB2 for most teams.

Assuming Portis and LT are equally likely to get hurt, you have an equal chance of zero production drafting Betts or Turner. If you drafted Portis and he gets hurt, and all you have left is a pair of servicable RB2s, you lose anyway.

That take is a little defeatist for my take, that if your RB1 goes down you aren't even going to care what happens to your team after because you figure you have lost already.I'd much rather know that if my RB1 goes down, I'll not only have my RB3 (and 4 and 5) as possible fill ins, but that I'll have a handcuff who might perform as a RB2. All I have to do is get to the playoffs and hope for a lucky streak.Not to mention that there are only a few true studs in the league. Many good producing RBs have backups who perform at similar levels when they get the shot. Maybe not Priest-LJ level, but worthwhile starters.

 

[FightingWombat]

Drafting Portis and Turner is very high risk. If Portis goes down, you don't have anything to replace him with (or RB3 at best). If you handcuffed with Betts, Betts could muster a RB2 performance. So you are not totally screwed. Drafting to mitigate risk, although conservative, isn't always bad.

Backups to D Davis and Foster would be better than LTs back up. Take your risk on guys that have a better chance of playing and/or handcuff your RB1 IF he has a history of injuries.

 

[Captain Quinoa]

Tell that to the guy who grabbed LJ in my league last year when the Priest owner let him slip too far.........................not to mention we keep ONE player!!

uhhh, we knew LJ was going to play last year plus holmes was a huge injury risk in a ridiculously high scoring fantasy RB offense. NOt exactly the same as rostering Maurice Morris when you don't have SA.

Yes, he was going to play............but he was still nothing more than a handcuff, if Holmes stays healthy all season.

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Then why, at this time last year, was Holmes ranked #3 and Johnson ranked #33??Going into drafts last year, Johnson was NOT predicted to get enough playing time to warrant a starting spot in fantasy line-ups.

#33 <> handcuff. Most guys in the 30's are in RBBC with guys ranked in the 20's, not guys ranked #3. That shows how much Johnson was expected to see the field, not even counting Priest's likelihood of injury.current FBG rankings:

54 Brandon Jacobs

60 Michael Bennett

62 Michael Turner

NR Maurice Morris

THOSE are the handcuffs we're talking about.

 

[moleculo]

Drafting Portis and Turner is very high risk. If Portis goes down, you don't have anything to replace him with (or RB3 at best). If you handcuffed with Betts, Betts could muster a RB2 performance. So you are not totally screwed. Drafting to mitigate risk, although conservative, isn't always bad.Backups to D Davis and Foster would be better than LTs back up. Take your risk on guys that have a better chance of playing and/or handcuff your RB1 IF he has a history of injuries.

YES!

 

[millertyme1]

No problem grabbing Turner with or without LT.

I don't see him as one of those fluff RB's that people unrealistically see as a future starter (i.e. Maurice Morris).