Green Bay at Chicago (1 Viewer)

[MaxThreshold]

As a rule, all fans are delusional to some extent. Are Packer fans more delusional? Perhaps, but we have better reason to be so. We have won 13 league championships, four super bowls, one with this coach/qb. We have the best qb in the nfl (argueably), and the offense overall is pretty good.

I expect the niners to beat the packers. Their D is far better than the packers d, and the Packers offense is not that much better than the niners offense. If Lacy was not hurt I would like the Packers chances more - game time temperature of 10 degrees and dropping, line them up and play football. But even with Lacy, I think the niners would win this game 7 of 10 times, perhaps 8, stictly on the defensive issues the Packers have.

But the Packers can win, and they have plenty of weapons to do so. So is it delusional? Well, our team has earned that right for us.

BOOM!

 

[CletiusMaximus]

Kind of curious to think about what the Pack fans think of next week's game. I would think with Clay back in the fold and some terrible weather would be a spring board to a win and if I am not mistaken, this is a revenge game...

There's no team I'd rather be playing at Lambeau this weekend. Love it - excited already.

I agree. As a Packer fan San Fran is the last team I wanted to see heading up to Lambeau this weekend.

I'm not interested in any of the other potential opponents. The 49ers are a tasty matchup for the Packers and their fans.

I think you guys are all delusional.

Of course the 49ers are better and are likely to win, but they've beaten the packers three straight, so they are the team I want to play. I'm not interested in playing a weaker team in the hopes of having a better chance of winning one game. Saints, cardinals, panthers, etc don't interest me much. Seahawks would be fun. We've got a bit of a bone to pick with them.

 

[Willink]

Kind of curious to think about what the Pack fans think of next week's game. I would think with Clay back in the fold and some terrible weather would be a spring board to a win and if I am not mistaken, this is a revenge game...

There's no team I'd rather be playing at Lambeau this weekend. Love it - excited already.

I agree. As a Packer fan San Fran is the last team I wanted to see heading up to Lambeau this weekend.

I'm not interested in any of the other potential opponents. The 49ers are a tasty matchup for the Packers and their fans.

I think you guys are all delusional.

Have you seen the 49ers anemic pass rushing the past two games? Carolina just sacked Matty Slush 9 times after he pretty much stood around all day against SF. Green Bay with Rodgers back is way better offensively than either Arizona or Atlanta. Defense without Matthews is still pretty bad, but wouldn't really consider it "delusional" to think that Green Bay can simply outscore them. SF played two "explosive" offenses all season, one of which was Green Bay (who scored the most points SF allowed all season outside of the @SEA game) in San Francisco rather than at home as this coming week.

 

[Mr.Pack]

As a rule, all fans are delusional to some extent. Are Packer fans more delusional? Perhaps, but we have better reason to be so. We have won 13 league championships, four super bowls, one with this coach/qb. We have the best qb in the nfl (argueably), and the offense overall is pretty good.

I expect the niners to beat the packers. Their D is far better than the packers d, and the Packers offense is not that much better than the niners offense. If Lacy was not hurt I would like the Packers chances more - game time temperature of 10 degrees and dropping, line them up and play football. But even with Lacy, I think the niners would win this game 7 of 10 times, perhaps 8, stictly on the defensive issues the Packers have.

But the Packers can win, and they have plenty of weapons to do so. So is it delusional? Well, our team has earned that right for us.

Agreed 100%

 

[Kleck]

Yeah, I'm delusional too. I've been wanting a rematch with San Fran all year and am anxious to beat them this week. Hopefully Philly wins too because I want Seattle, in Seattle, next. You want to be the best, lets go head-to-head with the best.

 

[snogger]

I was surprised to read today there were 15,000 tickets still available and they are concerned about a possible blackout. Guessing the forecast of a high of 8 degrees and the holidays has something to do with it but still

 

[FavreAndAwayAnIdiot]

I was surprised to read today there were 15,000 tickets still available and they are concerned about a possible blackout. Guessing the forecast of a high of 8 degrees and the holidays has something to do with it but still

Um no... it's because people don't want to pay $250 to watch a blowout. Serious, that's the reason.

 

[GreenNGold]

I was surprised to read today there were 15,000 tickets still available and they are concerned about a possible blackout. Guessing the forecast of a high of 8 degrees and the holidays has something to do with it but still

It will sell out (and was down to 13,000 tuesday morning -- I'm not sure what it is at now), most of the tickets are available because many season ticket holders didn't want to front money for every possible home playoff game back in November when odds weren't looking so good. Also, the stadium has 7,000 more seats than it did last year.

Most of the general public just found out today that they actually can buy tickets (and word is still spreading). This is just something the public has assumed is completely off limits to them, since tickets are never publicly available, so as that reality sets in I'm sure lots of people who never get a chance to buy tickets for face value will be scooping them up too.

 

[snogger]

I was surprised to read today there were 15,000 tickets still available and they are concerned about a possible blackout. Guessing the forecast of a high of 8 degrees and the holidays has something to do with it but still

It will sell out (and was down to 13,000 tuesday morning -- I'm not sure what it is at now), most of the tickets are available because many season ticket holders didn't want to front money for every possible home playoff game back in November when odds weren't looking so good. Also, the stadium has 7,000 more seats than it did last year.

Most of the general public just found out today that they actually can buy tickets (and word is still spreading). This is just something the public has assumed is completely off limits to them, since tickets are never publicly available, so as that reality sets in I'm sure lots of people who never get a chance to buy tickets for face value will be scooping them up too.

Oh I agree it will sell out.. my is knowing how hard it is at times for many to get tickets to a regular season game and yet here we are a few days out from a playoff game and there were so many tickets left.

Just thought knowing how rabid the Packer fans are, I thought it would sell out faster then a $1 all you can drink BeerFest in Milwaukee.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

I was surprised to read today there were 15,000 tickets still available and they are concerned about a possible blackout. Guessing the forecast of a high of 8 degrees and the holidays has something to do with it but still

Um no... it's because people don't want to pay $250 to watch a blowout. Serious, that's the reason.

The tickets range in price from $102-125. So nobody should have to pay $250 to watch the game.

 

[sho nuff]

Its still surprising to an extent...but yeah, the ticket invoices were sent out after the Thanksgiving game.

I think plenty (my family included) didn't get them because they figured it was not going to happen anyway.

Even after, my mother turned down the chance to get them again because of the weather (it was -13 the other morning) and she has already sat though the Ice Bowl and the NFC title game watching Coughlin's face almost fall off.

 

[FavreAndAwayAnIdiot]

I was surprised to read today there were 15,000 tickets still available and they are concerned about a possible blackout. Guessing the forecast of a high of 8 degrees and the holidays has something to do with it but still

Um no... it's because people don't want to pay $250 to watch a blowout. Serious, that's the reason.

The tickets range in price from $102-125. So nobody should have to pay $250 to watch the game.

Apparently you don't know how ticket sales work for major sporting events. They are driven by the broker market, because that's where the vast majority of folks have to get them. The brokers (Ticket King, Ticketmaster, etc) buy them through various means*, and then resell them at prices that are much higher than face value. $250 would be a steal for any playoff game. However, sometimes folks don't want to pay those higher prices, so these brokers drop them down to face value just so they don't sell at a loss.

...and then sometimes no one wants the tickets at all, and even the brokers don't buy them.

 

[FavreAndAwayAnIdiot]

Its still surprising to an extent...but yeah, the ticket invoices were sent out after the Thanksgiving game.

I think plenty (my family included) didn't get them because they figured it was not going to happen anyway.

Even after, my mother turned down the chance to get them again because of the weather (it was -13 the other morning) and she has already sat though the Ice Bowl and the NFC title game watching Coughlin's face almost fall off.

What's telling for me, Sho, is that more folks flooded Green Bay phone lines to buy worthless stock at 200 bucks a pop-- but they are having a hard time getting that same fanbase to ante up to watch a playoff game, at home!

People have obviously paid attention to the last few seasons' playoff experiences, and they know Dom Capers is still running the defense. That's an amazingly sad state of affairs, and I hope the fact that Green Bay made the playoffs doesn't mean Capers will keep his job.

 

[MaxThreshold]

Its still surprising to an extent...but yeah, the ticket invoices were sent out after the Thanksgiving game.

I think plenty (my family included) didn't get them because they figured it was not going to happen anyway.

Even after, my mother turned down the chance to get them again because of the weather (it was -13 the other morning) and she has already sat though the Ice Bowl and the NFC title game watching Coughlin's face almost fall off.

What's telling for me, Sho, is that more folks flooded Green Bay phone lines to buy worthless stock at 200 bucks a pop-- but they are having a hard time getting that same fanbase to ante up to watch a playoff game, at home!

People have obviously paid attention to the last few seasons' playoff experiences, and they know Dom Capers is still running the defense. That's an amazingly sad state of affairs, and I hope the fact that Green Bay made the playoffs doesn't mean Capers will keep his job.

Dude, you're out of your mind - that's not what's happening at all. Now you're just making #### up because you have Packer Derangement Syndrome:

Popkey said the franchise also decided to lift the limit of four tickets per transaction on Ticketmaster.com. Depending on seat location, face-value tickets for the game range from $102 to $125...

...In previous years, fans had the option of allowing the Packers to keep their money if the team didn't make the playoffs, and apply it to next season's season-ticket bill. Fully half of all season-ticket holders chose that option, a team official said.

- It was a quick turnaround for the Packers. The Packers defeated the Bears on Sunday to win the NFC North Division, and had less time than normal to sell tickets.

- Packers fans consider themselves hardy, but the cold weather can't be denied. Sunday's forecast calls for highs in the single digits. Cold comfort.

- The Packers, like many other professional sports franchises, are mindful of people choosing to watch games in the comfort of their own home. That's why the Packers place so much emphasis on the game experience, and constantly remind us of the iconic status of Lambeau Field.

- Lambeau Field is bigger. With the addition of 7,000 seats in the south end-zone area this season, capacity is 80,750...

 

[Alex P Keaton]

I was surprised to read today there were 15,000 tickets still available and they are concerned about a possible blackout. Guessing the forecast of a high of 8 degrees and the holidays has something to do with it but still

Um no... it's because people don't want to pay $250 to watch a blowout. Serious, that's the reason.

The tickets range in price from $102-125. So nobody should have to pay $250 to watch the game.

Apparently you don't know how ticket sales work for major sporting events. They are driven by the broker market, because that's where the vast majority of folks have to get them. The brokers (Ticket King, Ticketmaster, etc) buy them through various means*, and then resell them at prices that are much higher than face value. $250 would be a steal for any playoff game. However, sometimes folks don't want to pay those higher prices, so these brokers drop them down to face value just so they don't sell at a loss.

...and then sometimes no one wants the tickets at all, and even the brokers don't buy them.

Uh, people can buy these tickets at $102-125 each. Have you visited the ticketmaster website yet? Yeah, didn't think so. People can buy the tickets, directly from ticketmaster, for $102-125. It is irrelevant what Ticket King or Dtubhub prices are when the game isn't sold out yet.

 

[sho nuff]

Its still surprising to an extent...but yeah, the ticket invoices were sent out after the Thanksgiving game.

I think plenty (my family included) didn't get them because they figured it was not going to happen anyway.

Even after, my mother turned down the chance to get them again because of the weather (it was -13 the other morning) and she has already sat though the Ice Bowl and the NFC title game watching Coughlin's face almost fall off.

What's telling for me, Sho, is that more folks flooded Green Bay phone lines to buy worthless stock at 200 bucks a pop-- but they are having a hard time getting that same fanbase to ante up to watch a playoff game, at home!

People have obviously paid attention to the last few seasons' playoff experiences, and they know Dom Capers is still running the defense. That's an amazingly sad state of affairs, and I hope the fact that Green Bay made the playoffs doesn't mean Capers will keep his job.

Almost 30,000 sold in one day...so seems they were not having much of a hard time getting them to sell.

Face it...you were wrong about the $250 a pop thing...you have been crying about them and saying they should have just lost rather than bring in the millions in revenue to the team (and community).

People have paid attention to the fact that they just got destroyed by the Lions and its been subzero temps here and there and one of the worst decembers weather wise.

I don't think them making it vs. not making it will affect Capers. While many of us agree he should go (Slocum first though). Have a feeling they will hang onto him.

So Id ask you. What direction should they go if they did get rid of Capers? Have to find a 3-4 guy. Unless you are wanting to plug Matthews in where he does not fit, have him do poorly for a year then get rid of him (if they go 4-3...IMO, its unpopular, but with injuries and salary, they would have to trade Matthews and even then not get great value in doing so...that thumb concerns me).

I think they stick 3-4, but be careful what you wish for. Dallas tried chaning D coordinators too...meanwhile New Orleans got better defensively and Dallas got much worse.

 

[FavreAndAwayAnIdiot]

Its still surprising to an extent...but yeah, the ticket invoices were sent out after the Thanksgiving game.

I think plenty (my family included) didn't get them because they figured it was not going to happen anyway.

Even after, my mother turned down the chance to get them again because of the weather (it was -13 the other morning) and she has already sat though the Ice Bowl and the NFC title game watching Coughlin's face almost fall off.

What's telling for me, Sho, is that more folks flooded Green Bay phone lines to buy worthless stock at 200 bucks a pop-- but they are having a hard time getting that same fanbase to ante up to watch a playoff game, at home!

People have obviously paid attention to the last few seasons' playoff experiences, and they know Dom Capers is still running the defense. That's an amazingly sad state of affairs, and I hope the fact that Green Bay made the playoffs doesn't mean Capers will keep his job.

Dude, you're out of your mind - that's not what's happening at all. Now you're just making #### up because you have Packer Derangement Syndrome:

Popkey said the franchise also decided to lift the limit of four tickets per transaction on Ticketmaster.com. Depending on seat location, face-value tickets for the game range from $102 to $125...

...In previous years, fans had the option of allowing the Packers to keep their money if the team didn't make the playoffs, and apply it to next season's season-ticket bill. Fully half of all season-ticket holders chose that option, a team official said.

- It was a quick turnaround for the Packers. The Packers defeated the Bears on Sunday to win the NFC North Division, and had less time than normal to sell tickets.

- Packers fans consider themselves hardy, but the cold weather can't be denied. Sunday's forecast calls for highs in the single digits. Cold comfort.

- The Packers, like many other professional sports franchises, are mindful of people choosing to watch games in the comfort of their own home. That's why the Packers place so much emphasis on the game experience, and constantly remind us of the iconic status of Lambeau Field.

- Lambeau Field is bigger. With the addition of 7,000 seats in the south end-zone area this season, capacity is 80,750...

I'm sure those are contributing factors. But the bottom line is I've talked to very few people who believe GB has a shot in hell this weekend, and many of these folks would have jumped at a chance for face value Packer tickets.

I really don't expect the Milwaukee Journal, who relies on a positive relationship with the Packers organization, to admit that sales are down primarily because the team is lucky to be in the playoffs and will collapse on defense vs a decent team-- as they have for the last 2 seasons.

But hope is great! Good luck with that...

 

[MaxThreshold]

Its still surprising to an extent...but yeah, the ticket invoices were sent out after the Thanksgiving game.

I think plenty (my family included) didn't get them because they figured it was not going to happen anyway.

Even after, my mother turned down the chance to get them again because of the weather (it was -13 the other morning) and she has already sat though the Ice Bowl and the NFC title game watching Coughlin's face almost fall off.

What's telling for me, Sho, is that more folks flooded Green Bay phone lines to buy worthless stock at 200 bucks a pop-- but they are having a hard time getting that same fanbase to ante up to watch a playoff game, at home!

People have obviously paid attention to the last few seasons' playoff experiences, and they know Dom Capers is still running the defense. That's an amazingly sad state of affairs, and I hope the fact that Green Bay made the playoffs doesn't mean Capers will keep his job.

Dude, you're out of your mind - that's not what's happening at all. Now you're just making #### up because you have Packer Derangement Syndrome:

Popkey said the franchise also decided to lift the limit of four tickets per transaction on Ticketmaster.com. Depending on seat location, face-value tickets for the game range from $102 to $125...

...In previous years, fans had the option of allowing the Packers to keep their money if the team didn't make the playoffs, and apply it to next season's season-ticket bill. Fully half of all season-ticket holders chose that option, a team official said.

- It was a quick turnaround for the Packers. The Packers defeated the Bears on Sunday to win the NFC North Division, and had less time than normal to sell tickets.

- Packers fans consider themselves hardy, but the cold weather can't be denied. Sunday's forecast calls for highs in the single digits. Cold comfort.

- The Packers, like many other professional sports franchises, are mindful of people choosing to watch games in the comfort of their own home. That's why the Packers place so much emphasis on the game experience, and constantly remind us of the iconic status of Lambeau Field.

- Lambeau Field is bigger. With the addition of 7,000 seats in the south end-zone area this season, capacity is 80,750...

I'm sure those are contributing factors. But the bottom line is I've talked to very few people who believe GB has a shot in hell this weekend, and many of these folks would have jumped at a chance for face value Packer tickets.

I really don't expect the Milwaukee Journal, who relies on a positive relationship with the Packers organization, to admit that sales are down primarily because the team is lucky to be in the playoffs and will collapse on defense vs a decent team-- as they have for the last 2 seasons.

But hope is great! Good luck with that...

That's fine. No one gave the 2010 Packers much of a shot either. I'd rather come in under the radar and have the other team look past us.

And, seriously, you're going to claim some kind of unholy alliance between the Milwaukee Journal and the Packers?

 

[FavreAndAwayAnIdiot]

Its still surprising to an extent...but yeah, the ticket invoices were sent out after the Thanksgiving game.

I think plenty (my family included) didn't get them because they figured it was not going to happen anyway.

Even after, my mother turned down the chance to get them again because of the weather (it was -13 the other morning) and she has already sat though the Ice Bowl and the NFC title game watching Coughlin's face almost fall off.

What's telling for me, Sho, is that more folks flooded Green Bay phone lines to buy worthless stock at 200 bucks a pop-- but they are having a hard time getting that same fanbase to ante up to watch a playoff game, at home!

People have obviously paid attention to the last few seasons' playoff experiences, and they know Dom Capers is still running the defense. That's an amazingly sad state of affairs, and I hope the fact that Green Bay made the playoffs doesn't mean Capers will keep his job.

Almost 30,000 sold in one day...so seems they were not having much of a hard time getting them to sell.

Face it...you were wrong about the $250 a pop thing...you have been crying about them and saying they should have just lost rather than bring in the millions in revenue to the team (and community).

People have paid attention to the fact that they just got destroyed by the Lions and its been subzero temps here and there and one of the worst decembers weather wise.

I don't think them making it vs. not making it will affect Capers. While many of us agree he should go (Slocum first though). Have a feeling they will hang onto him.

So Id ask you. What direction should they go if they did get rid of Capers? Have to find a 3-4 guy. Unless you are wanting to plug Matthews in where he does not fit, have him do poorly for a year then get rid of him (if they go 4-3...IMO, its unpopular, but with injuries and salary, they would have to trade Matthews and even then not get great value in doing so...that thumb concerns me).

I think they stick 3-4, but be careful what you wish for. Dallas tried chaning D coordinators too...meanwhile New Orleans got better defensively and Dallas got much worse.

First of all, I could give a #### about the local Green Bay economy during games. I think the guy selling out his yard at $20 per car has more than made up his mortgage the last few months. I watch football for many reasons, but mostly to see the team I root for win. Green Bay is one of the weakest playoff teams to enter in several years, not just because of their near-.500 record. It's because they have one of the worst defenses and offensive lines in the league. This team is nothing like 2010, and everyone who says that it is either wasn't paying attention or is completely unaware of reality. Hope is great, but in the case of this team, this year, it's baseless.

I believe in sacrificing for the bigger picture. The bigger picture is that Aaron Rodgers is 30 years old, and his years of elite ability will be winding down eventually. But they need more than him, obviously. They need to stock up on players via the draft, as one could argue it hasn't gone very well for TT the last couple of years outside of a few players. Ultimately, they need a significantly higher draft position to assist TT and a new D-coordinator going into this offseason more than a humiliating Wildcard shellacking in the playoffs. I get that people don't agree with that strategy, but how has the traditional approach worked the last couple of years?

Green Bay has exited the playoffs 2 years in a row, and they were uncompetitive, utter debacles. Do you remember the 600 yards of San Fran offense last season? Or perhaps the 17-point home loss to the Giants the year before? Perhaps it's the complete lack of adjustment both times that allowed the same player to consistently burn the Packers defense through 4 quarters of play.

The same dude is in charge of those stellar defenses-- so why would this year suddenly be any different, especially considering this 2013 Packers team is a shell of what it was then?

Anyway, I really believe in the 3-4, but I think the Packers have no choice but to stick with it regardless. They are too far into the scheme to change now. I think just about anyone experienced in the 3-4 would be better than Dom Capers at this juncture, at least on an interim basis until someone better can be found. New ideas, but especially new motivational tactics are needed. The defense is soft, makes the same mistakes and repeatedly fails when it is needed most. They fired HC Ray Rhodes after 1 year for that similar kind of inconsistency, and I just don't get why Capers continues to get a pass.

 

[FavreAndAwayAnIdiot]

Its still surprising to an extent...but yeah, the ticket invoices were sent out after the Thanksgiving game.

I think plenty (my family included) didn't get them because they figured it was not going to happen anyway.

Even after, my mother turned down the chance to get them again because of the weather (it was -13 the other morning) and she has already sat though the Ice Bowl and the NFC title game watching Coughlin's face almost fall off.

What's telling for me, Sho, is that more folks flooded Green Bay phone lines to buy worthless stock at 200 bucks a pop-- but they are having a hard time getting that same fanbase to ante up to watch a playoff game, at home!

People have obviously paid attention to the last few seasons' playoff experiences, and they know Dom Capers is still running the defense. That's an amazingly sad state of affairs, and I hope the fact that Green Bay made the playoffs doesn't mean Capers will keep his job.

Dude, you're out of your mind - that's not what's happening at all. Now you're just making #### up because you have Packer Derangement Syndrome:

Popkey said the franchise also decided to lift the limit of four tickets per transaction on Ticketmaster.com. Depending on seat location, face-value tickets for the game range from $102 to $125...

...In previous years, fans had the option of allowing the Packers to keep their money if the team didn't make the playoffs, and apply it to next season's season-ticket bill. Fully half of all season-ticket holders chose that option, a team official said.

- It was a quick turnaround for the Packers. The Packers defeated the Bears on Sunday to win the NFC North Division, and had less time than normal to sell tickets.

- Packers fans consider themselves hardy, but the cold weather can't be denied. Sunday's forecast calls for highs in the single digits. Cold comfort.

- The Packers, like many other professional sports franchises, are mindful of people choosing to watch games in the comfort of their own home. That's why the Packers place so much emphasis on the game experience, and constantly remind us of the iconic status of Lambeau Field.

- Lambeau Field is bigger. With the addition of 7,000 seats in the south end-zone area this season, capacity is 80,750...

I'm sure those are contributing factors. But the bottom line is I've talked to very few people who believe GB has a shot in hell this weekend, and many of these folks would have jumped at a chance for face value Packer tickets.

I really don't expect the Milwaukee Journal, who relies on a positive relationship with the Packers organization, to admit that sales are down primarily because the team is lucky to be in the playoffs and will collapse on defense vs a decent team-- as they have for the last 2 seasons.

But hope is great! Good luck with that...

That's fine. No one gave the 2010 Packers much of a shot either.

Um, yes they did. The Packers looked every bit the dark horse entering the playoffs. The same cannot be said this season. Not even close.

 

[sho nuff]

Its still surprising to an extent...but yeah, the ticket invoices were sent out after the Thanksgiving game.

I think plenty (my family included) didn't get them because they figured it was not going to happen anyway.

Even after, my mother turned down the chance to get them again because of the weather (it was -13 the other morning) and she has already sat though the Ice Bowl and the NFC title game watching Coughlin's face almost fall off.

What's telling for me, Sho, is that more folks flooded Green Bay phone lines to buy worthless stock at 200 bucks a pop-- but they are having a hard time getting that same fanbase to ante up to watch a playoff game, at home!

People have obviously paid attention to the last few seasons' playoff experiences, and they know Dom Capers is still running the defense. That's an amazingly sad state of affairs, and I hope the fact that Green Bay made the playoffs doesn't mean Capers will keep his job.

Almost 30,000 sold in one day...so seems they were not having much of a hard time getting them to sell.

Face it...you were wrong about the $250 a pop thing...you have been crying about them and saying they should have just lost rather than bring in the millions in revenue to the team (and community).

People have paid attention to the fact that they just got destroyed by the Lions and its been subzero temps here and there and one of the worst decembers weather wise.

I don't think them making it vs. not making it will affect Capers. While many of us agree he should go (Slocum first though). Have a feeling they will hang onto him.

So Id ask you. What direction should they go if they did get rid of Capers? Have to find a 3-4 guy. Unless you are wanting to plug Matthews in where he does not fit, have him do poorly for a year then get rid of him (if they go 4-3...IMO, its unpopular, but with injuries and salary, they would have to trade Matthews and even then not get great value in doing so...that thumb concerns me).

I think they stick 3-4, but be careful what you wish for. Dallas tried chaning D coordinators too...meanwhile New Orleans got better defensively and Dallas got much worse.

First of all, I could give a #### about the local Green Bay economy during games. I think the guy selling out his yard at $20 per car has more than made up his mortgage the last few months. I watch football for many reasons, but mostly to see the team I root for win. Green Bay is one of the weakest playoff teams to enter in several years, not just because of their near-.500 record. It's because they have one of the worst defenses and offensive lines in the league. This team is nothing like 2010, and everyone who says that it is either wasn't paying attention or is completely unaware of reality. Hope is great, but in the case of this team, this year, it's baseless.

I believe in sacrificing for the bigger picture. The bigger picture is that Aaron Rodgers is 30 years old, and his years of elite ability will be winding down eventually. But they need more than him, obviously. They need to stock up on players via the draft, as one could argue it hasn't gone very well for TT the last couple of years outside of a few players. Ultimately, they need a significantly higher draft position to assist TT and a new D-coordinator going into this offseason more than a humiliating Wildcard shellacking in the playoffs. I get that people don't agree with that strategy, but how has the traditional approach worked the last couple of years?

Green Bay has exited the playoffs 2 years in a row, and they were uncompetitive, utter debacles. Do you remember the 600 yards of San Fran offense last season? Or perhaps the 17-point home loss to the Giants the year before? Perhaps it's the complete lack of adjustment both times that allowed the same player to consistently burn the Packers defense through 4 quarters of play.

The same dude is in charge of those stellar defenses-- so why would this year suddenly be any different, especially considering this 2013 Packers team is a shell of what it was then?

Anyway, I really believe in the 3-4, but I think the Packers have no choice but to stick with it regardless. They are too far into the scheme to change now. I think just about anyone experienced in the 3-4 would be better than Dom Capers at this juncture, at least on an interim basis until someone better can be found. New ideas, but especially new motivational tactics are needed. The defense is soft, makes the same mistakes and repeatedly fails when it is needed most. They fired HC Ray Rhodes after 1 year for that similar kind of inconsistency, and I just don't get why Capers continues to get a pass.

Notice I said the team will make millions as well.

The added bonus is that every bar around there will make their year simply by having one playoff game.

I don't think they are that weak of a playoff team. Mainly because of having Rodgers back and a more balanced offense.

yeah, the D is pretty weak...very weak...####ing awful at times.

The D is nothing like 2010. The offense can be better IMO. 4 legit WRs and a running game.

The Oline is on par with 2010...and run blocks better than they did then.

 

[The Kerminator]

Its still surprising to an extent...but yeah, the ticket invoices were sent out after the Thanksgiving game.

I think plenty (my family included) didn't get them because they figured it was not going to happen anyway.

Even after, my mother turned down the chance to get them again because of the weather (it was -13 the other morning) and she has already sat though the Ice Bowl and the NFC title game watching Coughlin's face almost fall off.

What's telling for me, Sho, is that more folks flooded Green Bay phone lines to buy worthless stock at 200 bucks a pop-- but they are having a hard time getting that same fanbase to ante up to watch a playoff game, at home!

People have obviously paid attention to the last few seasons' playoff experiences, and they know Dom Capers is still running the defense. That's an amazingly sad state of affairs, and I hope the fact that Green Bay made the playoffs doesn't mean Capers will keep his job.

Almost 30,000 sold in one day...so seems they were not having much of a hard time getting them to sell.

Face it...you were wrong about the $250 a pop thing...you have been crying about them and saying they should have just lost rather than bring in the millions in revenue to the team (and community).

People have paid attention to the fact that they just got destroyed by the Lions and its been subzero temps here and there and one of the worst decembers weather wise.

I don't think them making it vs. not making it will affect Capers. While many of us agree he should go (Slocum first though). Have a feeling they will hang onto him.

So Id ask you. What direction should they go if they did get rid of Capers? Have to find a 3-4 guy. Unless you are wanting to plug Matthews in where he does not fit, have him do poorly for a year then get rid of him (if they go 4-3...IMO, its unpopular, but with injuries and salary, they would have to trade Matthews and even then not get great value in doing so...that thumb concerns me).

I think they stick 3-4, but be careful what you wish for. Dallas tried chaning D coordinators too...meanwhile New Orleans got better defensively and Dallas got much worse.

First of all, I could give a #### about the local Green Bay economy during games. I think the guy selling out his yard at $20 per car has more than made up his mortgage the last few months. I watch football for many reasons, but mostly to see the team I root for win. Green Bay is one of the weakest playoff teams to enter in several years, not just because of their near-.500 record. It's because they have one of the worst defenses and offensive lines in the league. This team is nothing like 2010, and everyone who says that it is either wasn't paying attention or is completely unaware of reality. Hope is great, but in the case of this team, this year, it's baseless.

I believe in sacrificing for the bigger picture. The bigger picture is that Aaron Rodgers is 30 years old, and his years of elite ability will be winding down eventually. But they need more than him, obviously. They need to stock up on players via the draft, as one could argue it hasn't gone very well for TT the last couple of years outside of a few players. Ultimately, they need a significantly higher draft position to assist TT and a new D-coordinator going into this offseason more than a humiliating Wildcard shellacking in the playoffs. I get that people don't agree with that strategy, but how has the traditional approach worked the last couple of years?

Green Bay has exited the playoffs 2 years in a row, and they were uncompetitive, utter debacles. Do you remember the 600 yards of San Fran offense last season? Or perhaps the 17-point home loss to the Giants the year before? Perhaps it's the complete lack of adjustment both times that allowed the same player to consistently burn the Packers defense through 4 quarters of play.

The same dude is in charge of those stellar defenses-- so why would this year suddenly be any different, especially considering this 2013 Packers team is a shell of what it was then?

Anyway, I really believe in the 3-4, but I think the Packers have no choice but to stick with it regardless. They are too far into the scheme to change now. I think just about anyone experienced in the 3-4 would be better than Dom Capers at this juncture, at least on an interim basis until someone better can be found. New ideas, but especially new motivational tactics are needed. The defense is soft, makes the same mistakes and repeatedly fails when it is needed most. They fired HC Ray Rhodes after 1 year for that similar kind of inconsistency, and I just don't get why Capers continues to get a pass.

Ummmm, that's not why they fired Ray Rhodes

 

[RBM]

struggling to sellout a playoff game

 

[Statorama]

If you have a house in GB, I don't understand why you'd have any grass on your property at all. Just quick-crete anything on your property and paint yellow parking lines.

 

[FavreAndAwayAnIdiot]

Its still surprising to an extent...but yeah, the ticket invoices were sent out after the Thanksgiving game.

I think plenty (my family included) didn't get them because they figured it was not going to happen anyway.

Even after, my mother turned down the chance to get them again because of the weather (it was -13 the other morning) and she has already sat though the Ice Bowl and the NFC title game watching Coughlin's face almost fall off.

What's telling for me, Sho, is that more folks flooded Green Bay phone lines to buy worthless stock at 200 bucks a pop-- but they are having a hard time getting that same fanbase to ante up to watch a playoff game, at home!

People have obviously paid attention to the last few seasons' playoff experiences, and they know Dom Capers is still running the defense. That's an amazingly sad state of affairs, and I hope the fact that Green Bay made the playoffs doesn't mean Capers will keep his job.

Dude, you're out of your mind - that's not what's happening at all. Now you're just making #### up because you have Packer Derangement Syndrome:

Popkey said the franchise also decided to lift the limit of four tickets per transaction on Ticketmaster.com. Depending on seat location, face-value tickets for the game range from $102 to $125...

...In previous years, fans had the option of allowing the Packers to keep their money if the team didn't make the playoffs, and apply it to next season's season-ticket bill. Fully half of all season-ticket holders chose that option, a team official said.

- It was a quick turnaround for the Packers. The Packers defeated the Bears on Sunday to win the NFC North Division, and had less time than normal to sell tickets.

- Packers fans consider themselves hardy, but the cold weather can't be denied. Sunday's forecast calls for highs in the single digits. Cold comfort.

- The Packers, like many other professional sports franchises, are mindful of people choosing to watch games in the comfort of their own home. That's why the Packers place so much emphasis on the game experience, and constantly remind us of the iconic status of Lambeau Field.

- Lambeau Field is bigger. With the addition of 7,000 seats in the south end-zone area this season, capacity is 80,750...

I'm sure those are contributing factors. But the bottom line is I've talked to very few people who believe GB has a shot in hell this weekend, and many of these folks would have jumped at a chance for face value Packer tickets.

I really don't expect the Milwaukee Journal, who relies on a positive relationship with the Packers organization, to admit that sales are down primarily because the team is lucky to be in the playoffs and will collapse on defense vs a decent team-- as they have for the last 2 seasons.

But hope is great! Good luck with that...

And, seriously, you're going to claim some kind of unholy alliance between the Milwaukee Journal and the Packers?

(Forgot to answer this)

Unholy alliance? What the hell are you talking about? Packer coverage is pretty much the only thing that sells newspapers anymore. You piss them off, they become less cooperative and available. Without a flood of Packer babble in your news, no one wants to buy it.

You really don't get it? It's a basic business model.

 

[FavreAndAwayAnIdiot]

If you have a house in GB, I don't understand why you'd have any grass on your property at all. Just quick-crete anything on your property and paint yellow parking lines.

Vomit will soak into grass... There's a lot of drinking at Packer games, donchaknow!

 

[MaxThreshold]

Its still surprising to an extent...but yeah, the ticket invoices were sent out after the Thanksgiving game.

I think plenty (my family included) didn't get them because they figured it was not going to happen anyway.

Even after, my mother turned down the chance to get them again because of the weather (it was -13 the other morning) and she has already sat though the Ice Bowl and the NFC title game watching Coughlin's face almost fall off.

What's telling for me, Sho, is that more folks flooded Green Bay phone lines to buy worthless stock at 200 bucks a pop-- but they are having a hard time getting that same fanbase to ante up to watch a playoff game, at home!

People have obviously paid attention to the last few seasons' playoff experiences, and they know Dom Capers is still running the defense. That's an amazingly sad state of affairs, and I hope the fact that Green Bay made the playoffs doesn't mean Capers will keep his job.

Dude, you're out of your mind - that's not what's happening at all. Now you're just making #### up because you have Packer Derangement Syndrome:

Popkey said the franchise also decided to lift the limit of four tickets per transaction on Ticketmaster.com. Depending on seat location, face-value tickets for the game range from $102 to $125...

...In previous years, fans had the option of allowing the Packers to keep their money if the team didn't make the playoffs, and apply it to next season's season-ticket bill. Fully half of all season-ticket holders chose that option, a team official said.

- It was a quick turnaround for the Packers. The Packers defeated the Bears on Sunday to win the NFC North Division, and had less time than normal to sell tickets.

- Packers fans consider themselves hardy, but the cold weather can't be denied. Sunday's forecast calls for highs in the single digits. Cold comfort.

- The Packers, like many other professional sports franchises, are mindful of people choosing to watch games in the comfort of their own home. That's why the Packers place so much emphasis on the game experience, and constantly remind us of the iconic status of Lambeau Field.

- Lambeau Field is bigger. With the addition of 7,000 seats in the south end-zone area this season, capacity is 80,750...

I'm sure those are contributing factors. But the bottom line is I've talked to very few people who believe GB has a shot in hell this weekend, and many of these folks would have jumped at a chance for face value Packer tickets.

I really don't expect the Milwaukee Journal, who relies on a positive relationship with the Packers organization, to admit that sales are down primarily because the team is lucky to be in the playoffs and will collapse on defense vs a decent team-- as they have for the last 2 seasons.

But hope is great! Good luck with that...

And, seriously, you're going to claim some kind of unholy alliance between the Milwaukee Journal and the Packers?

(Forgot to answer this)

Unholy alliance? What the hell are you talking about? Packer coverage is pretty much the only thing that sells newspapers anymore. You piss them off, they become less cooperative and available. Without a flood of Packer babble in your news, no one wants to buy it.

You really don't get it? It's a basic business model.