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They were averaging what, 41 points a game with Adams, Lazard and MVS. Seems like they knew what they had at WR and 41 points a game kinda bears out that they may have been right. Their top 3 were doing pretty good. Not often you lose your top 2 WRs.
Sure. But injuries do happen often. I think a lot of thjngs may have been better this year than seeing the top 3 picks in street clothes or barely getting play (Deguara due to injury)
Well hopefully love doesn't get any this year. Hopefully Dillon sees very few as well.
I was just talking to my friend about their draft and wondered how many snaps they've had. Figured I'd post here and maybe there would be a Packers fan here in the know about it, and have an answer for us. My sincerest apologies for not opening my post with a congrats on the win.
It was a really good year to draft rookies who don’t need to contribute, given that there was no preseason.
I don't think its ever good to draft players expecting immediate contribution, understanding teams (including the Packers) often find themselves in that situation due to poor planning and other factors. Its a fantastic luxury to be in position to draft BPA, looking to the future, and is a sign of great leadership imo. Of course, if those players fail to perform down the road, heads will roll, as they should.
The underlying issue is that Rodgers has had given Marquez Valdes-Scantling many chances but he couldn't catch most of them. Granted, most of them were deep passes, which are bit difficult to catch. Regardless, MVS got to capitalize when given opportunity. This is why Allen Lazard pounced on that opportunity last year and gained Rodgers' trust. The loss of Lazard is telling, forcing Rodgers to be heavily dependent on Adams (no Aaron Jones = increased use of Jamaal Williams).sho nuff said:
I have a bigger list than Green (and was against him early on...but he is starting to look a bit healthier again). But Green or Ross (who they don't even play) from the Nati would be good.
What Packers (rather Rodgers) need is a bit field-stretcher. Lazard provides that part but unfortunately, he'll be out for a while. MVS is guy who supposed to provide that but for whatever reason, he cannot get his job done when given opportunity. Perhaps Equanimeous St. Brown could be that guy.
I think Lazard will be back as early as next Thursday.
Strength is an overstatement. They are, once again, atrocious against the run and none of these top 4 guys are proven at all. Barnes and Martin are both rookies. Burgess is a guy who played on 5 different practice squads and while he had a nice season for the Jets last year, they still cut him, and he just joined the team. Kirksey has experience but has he ever been dependable in his career?
They never want to look ahead, but the next game after this one is on Thursday night, so that will be a consideration for some of the guys who are a little banged up.
That is my other worry...the look ahead to a Thursday night against SF...and people thinking beating MN again should be easy. Division rival games are never easy.
Love....no. Can't explain other than they saw something in him and just thought he was too good to pass up. Its the pick that still makes zero sense to me.
Agreed. Such a waste of talent I really hope they trade Aaron so at least he has a legit crack at another ring. To a team that actually tries to put a legit defense on the field.
They haven't tried to put a defense on the field? I would disagree...they have tried that quite a lot. How many of their picks the past few years have been defense...the FA additions of the Smiths...the high dollar contract to keep Clark around.
Sho their defense has been subpar since 2011. That's 10 seasons of mediocre to outright bad defensive play. Whatever they are trying or their philosophy is it isn't working. We need results not just effort.
I know its bad...Im saying its bad...I have no issue saying that. I just can't look at it and say they haven't tried to put a legit defense out there when they have been trying for years between draft and signing.
Agreed my trying comment was more based on this past offseason. Last year their run defense was the demise of this team and they did nothing in the offseason to really address that so we shouldn't be shocked when the run defense sucks yet again. But yeah they've done things in the past to try to help the defense but they just haven't worked. I'm just tired of seeing the Packers defense get pushed around again and again year after year.
No doubt...when they first traded up in the first my brother and I were texting...my text to him was "Patrick Queen please". His response was right after they took love...and if I posted his response here the language filter would go nuts.
Wow. Getting Fuller could fix the narrative of the 2020 draft that management s the bed.
It’s like I said on FB, they're just like the Brewers. Perfectly content with being mediocre. Make the playoffs, keep raking in the money. And we the fans enable them by continuing to attend games, buy merch, watch on TV, etc. We should demand better....with our wallets. If they don’t care about winning, then why should we?
I think Fuller would have been a great add. But a 2nd for a 10 week rental is way too rich. They already have lot of their own own free agents to sign in a year when the salary cap is going to go down. A 2nd rounder and its salary implications is more valuable
That backup TE might allow them to resign one of their own free agents. And even that backup TE is going to give them more than Fuller will on another team.
How is burning another early-round pick to draft a tight end to replace backup TE Josiah Deguara who was drafted in the third round in 2020 to replace backup TE Jace Sternberger who was drafted in the third round in 2019 going to help them resign Bakhtiari or Aaron Jones or Kevin King or Corey Linsley?KingPrawn said:
1st, the obvious, resigning Fuller would be more expensive than signing a draft pick.
Mediocre is an odd choice of words for a team that has completely dominated the NFC North the past 20 years and is probably among the top 5 most successful NFL franchises during that time. After the Patriots, there are a small handful of teams including the Packers, and then there are 20-25 teams whose fans could only hope to support a team that's had the incredible success we've had the past couple decades.
OK, what if I said that they're content with just making the playoffs. How about that?
They've played in 4 of the last 10 NFC Championship games. I doubt any other NFC team has played 5. I'm not a good stats guy, but would guess that if we look at just about any metric of success in the NFL, the Packers are going to be top 5 or very close to it. I get that fans always want the team to do more, and hate the long-term outlook. But the Packers success since Ron Wolf took over has been based on drafting for the future and only rarely taking a shot at a high-profile vet signing. I remember a couple years ago when fans though Davante Adams was a bust and should be cut. The same was said about Jaire and Rashan Gary, both of whom are now solid NFL starters. We can name a dozen or more players with similar stories. Fans have short memories.
They've had back-to-back first ballot Hall of Fame QBs. Over those 28 seasons, they have TWO championships. That's all that matters IMO. I'd trade away all of those other playoff appearances for a couple more titles.
