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Grocery Store-What are you paying for food? (1 Viewer)
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fatness
Footballguy
Thanksgiving meals are expected to be cheaper in 2024 as turkey prices drop
The average Thanksgiving meal costs less in 2024 relative to last year, largely due to declining turkey prices, economists said.
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
A "classic" Thanksgiving feast for a party of 10 will cost $58.08 in 2024, on average — down 5% from 2023
Thanksgiving meals are expected to be cheaper in 2024 as turkey prices drop
The average Thanksgiving meal costs less in 2024 relative to last year, largely due to declining turkey prices, economists said.www.cnbc.com
Bull crap
Brunell4MVP
Footballguy
Say wut? Maybe per person.
Thanksgiving meals are expected to be cheaper in 2024 as turkey prices drop
The average Thanksgiving meal costs less in 2024 relative to last year, largely due to declining turkey prices, economists said.
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
Gas up to $3.39 on my way home today
the moops
Footballguy
A "classic" Thanksgiving feast for a party of 10 will cost $58.08 in 2024, on average — down 5% from 2023
Thanksgiving meals are expected to be cheaper in 2024 as turkey prices drop
The average Thanksgiving meal costs less in 2024 relative to last year, largely due to declining turkey prices, economists said.
Bull crap
It may not be what all of us make for the feast but they are just comparing the prices of "turkey, cubed stuffing, sweet potatoes, dinner rolls, frozen peas, fresh cranberries, celery, carrots, pumpkin pie mix and crusts, whipping cream and whole milk."
So yea, 58.08 seems ludicrously low, but the percentage decrease should be pretty similar even if your total is 3 times that
Stoneworker
Footballguy
Where the heck are you guys shopping? This is literally from a current Safeway* flyer (requires member card but of course every shopper has one for their store)
$13.32 18-lb Butterball turkey ($0.74/lb w/ digital coupon) ($0.99 w/o)
$1.94 10-lb Signature Russett potatoes (2 5-lb bags for $0.97 ea)
$3.58 2 pkgs StoveTop stuffing ($1.79 ea)
$6.49 5 one pound yams ($1.29/lb)
$2.50 1 pkg 32-oz baby carrots
$2.50 1 pkg 12-oz fresh cranberries
$2.50 1 pkg celery hearts (carrots, cranberries and celery pkgs at 2 for $5)
$5.00 2 pkg frozen peas (making that up)
$7.00 1-pkg fresh-baked dinner rolls (12-ct)
$9.94 2 Rocky Mtn fresh-baked pumpkin pies (same price for 2 frozen Callendar)
$1.95 1 tub Cool Whip (digital coupon)
$4.00 1 gallon of whole milk
$60.75 TOTAL
* City of Denver. So likely higher than national average food prices
$13.32 18-lb Butterball turkey ($0.74/lb w/ digital coupon) ($0.99 w/o)
$1.94 10-lb Signature Russett potatoes (2 5-lb bags for $0.97 ea)
$3.58 2 pkgs StoveTop stuffing ($1.79 ea)
$6.49 5 one pound yams ($1.29/lb)
$2.50 1 pkg 32-oz baby carrots
$2.50 1 pkg 12-oz fresh cranberries
$2.50 1 pkg celery hearts (carrots, cranberries and celery pkgs at 2 for $5)
$5.00 2 pkg frozen peas (making that up)
$7.00 1-pkg fresh-baked dinner rolls (12-ct)
$9.94 2 Rocky Mtn fresh-baked pumpkin pies (same price for 2 frozen Callendar)
$1.95 1 tub Cool Whip (digital coupon)
$4.00 1 gallon of whole milk
$60.75 TOTAL
* City of Denver. So likely higher than national average food prices
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Instinctive
Footballguy
Yeah seems reasonable to me. And you're talking to a guy who just paid $16/pound for fresh farm raised boneless skinless 3.5 pound turkey breasts prebrined for our smoked Turkey friendsgiving lol
Talk about grocery prices getting out of control - local butchers I think cost has like doubled since preCOVID
Talk about grocery prices getting out of control - local butchers I think cost has like doubled since preCOVID
fatness
Footballguy
That's the main point of the article to me ----- yearly price check on exactly the same items each year.
As for individual prices in individual locations, sure they're going to vary . This week here, for example, gas is $3.01 a gallon and turkeys are $0.39 a pound.
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
How much did you have to spend there in the last month to not pay the $2.79 price?
fatness
Footballguy
Not sure what you mean. The gas you just drive up and pump with no requirements. The turkey price of $0.39/lb. is available to anyone who applies for a store membership card, which requires no purchases or cost. And I've eaten Food Lion's turkeys at least 10 times before and they're quite good.
NutterButter
Footballguy
That's a great potato price. Maybe the russetts are a lot cheaper. I always get the yukon golds.
MAC_32
Footballguy
I don't recall the brands off-hand, but we have a local market that runs 10 lbs / $1.99 potato deals several times per year. Yukon golds are more, but not a jarring amount.
fatness
Footballguy
4 companies (2 in the US, 2 in Canada) are being sued for price-fixing of frozen potato products --- fries, hash browns, tater tots, etc. --- for the last 4 years. Together they control 98% of the US frozen potato product market. Their costs for getting potatoes rose until 2022, but when those costs dropped the 4 companies kept coordinating and raising their prices, often by the same amount around the same times. The best part is that the news is calling them a Potato Cartel. 
Chemical X
Footballguy
big potato will be the talk of the 2028 election cycle. my bold take.4 companies (2 in the US, 2 in Canada) are being sued for price-fixing of frozen potato products --- fries, hash browns, tater tots, etc. --- for the last 4 years. Together they control 98% of the US frozen potato product market. Their costs for getting potatoes rose until 2022, but when those costs dropped the 4 companies kept coordinating and raising their prices, often by the same amount around the same times. The best part is that the news is calling them a Potato Cartel.
ChiefD
Footballguy
Now every company needs to be investigated in every consumer market for doing the same damn thing after Covid.4 companies (2 in the US, 2 in Canada) are being sued for price-fixing of frozen potato products --- fries, hash browns, tater tots, etc. --- for the last 4 years. Together they control 98% of the US frozen potato product market. Their costs for getting potatoes rose until 2022, but when those costs dropped the 4 companies kept coordinating and raising their prices, often by the same amount around the same times. The best part is that the news is calling them a Potato Cartel.
"Hey, guess what I discovered. Our costs have gone down but people are still paying the higher prices. Should we keep doing that?"
"Hell yeah".
culdeus
Footballguy
16 a pound for turkey. I don't care if Jesus brined it. You don't pay that.
fatness
Footballguy
Update on the turkey price.
The frozen whole turkeys are no longer $0.39 a pound. They're now $0.27 a pound.
On the other had large eggs are up to $2.99 a dozen.
I did some math and I can get a 11-pound turkey for $0.02 less than a dozen eggs. $2.97 vs. $2.99.
I really don't think turkey sandwiches for breakfast sounds all that bad for awhile. My wife disagrees.
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Instinctive
Footballguy
Hey man it's hard to find a full 3.5 pound cleanly butchered organic turkey breast straight from the farm.
pollardsvision
Footballguy
For the restaurant, fries are the one thing I haven't found any leeway on.4 companies (2 in the US, 2 in Canada) are being sued for price-fixing of frozen potato products --- fries, hash browns, tater tots, etc. --- for the last 4 years. Together they control 98% of the US frozen potato product market. Their costs for getting potatoes rose until 2022, but when those costs dropped the 4 companies kept coordinating and raising their prices, often by the same amount around the same times. The best part is that the news is calling them a Potato Cartel.
I think most restaurants are gouging people because the increased costs on most things is overblown. I'm barely paying $3/lb for beef. People keep screaming about egg costs, but they were back to $2/dozen for years after the egg meltdown (starting to increase a little again, but that happens with eggs).
But there's no relief on fries.
Like with grocery stores, I think the frozen part is key. If there's competition, plenty of farmers, and it goes bad, prices will stay reasonable.
Freezers cost money so it's not exactly like holding Lucky Charms forever, but they can still hold quite a while waiting on someone to buy.
Not that I have any clue if there's collusion going on or not.
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
I know nothing about running a restaurant, but I always assumed you could make more profit with a French fry cutter and potatoes. Is that not right?For the restaurant, fries are the one thing I haven't found any leeway on.4 companies (2 in the US, 2 in Canada) are being sued for price-fixing of frozen potato products --- fries, hash browns, tater tots, etc. --- for the last 4 years. Together they control 98% of the US frozen potato product market. Their costs for getting potatoes rose until 2022, but when those costs dropped the 4 companies kept coordinating and raising their prices, often by the same amount around the same times. The best part is that the news is calling them a Potato Cartel.
I think most restaurants are gouging people because the increased costs on most things is overblown. I'm barely paying $3/lb for beef. People keep screaming about egg costs, but they were back to $2/dozen for years after the egg meltdown (starting to increase a little again, but that happens with eggs).
But there's no relief on fries.
Like with grocery stores, I think the frozen part is key. If there's competition, plenty of farmers, and it goes bad, prices will stay reasonable.
Freezers cost money so it's not exactly like holding Lucky Charms forever, but they can still hold quite a while waiting on someone to buy.
Not that I have any clue if there's collusion going on or not.
kupcho1
Footballguy
Any one company can set prices however they like. There's no need to investigate that. If they fall out of step with their competition they'll lose share. It's when they coordinate with competitors that they run afoul of the law.
What about Big Wing? I swear the price per pound was (is?, I quit looking) higher than that of boneless, skinless chicken breasts.
Mister CIA
Footballguy
Wouldn't you rather Big Thigh?
Chemical X
Footballguy
the issue might be an inconsistent product. i want the same thing i get every time i go somewhere, maybe with fresh it’s tougher.I know nothing about running a restaurant, but I always assumed you could make more profit with a French fry cutter and potatoes. Is that not right?For the restaurant, fries are the one thing I haven't found any leeway on.4 companies (2 in the US, 2 in Canada) are being sued for price-fixing of frozen potato products --- fries, hash browns, tater tots, etc. --- for the last 4 years. Together they control 98% of the US frozen potato product market. Their costs for getting potatoes rose until 2022, but when those costs dropped the 4 companies kept coordinating and raising their prices, often by the same amount around the same times. The best part is that the news is calling them a Potato Cartel.
I think most restaurants are gouging people because the increased costs on most things is overblown. I'm barely paying $3/lb for beef. People keep screaming about egg costs, but they were back to $2/dozen for years after the egg meltdown (starting to increase a little again, but that happens with eggs).
But there's no relief on fries.
Like with grocery stores, I think the frozen part is key. If there's competition, plenty of farmers, and it goes bad, prices will stay reasonable.
Freezers cost money so it's not exactly like holding Lucky Charms forever, but they can still hold quite a while waiting on someone to buy.
Not that I have any clue if there's collusion going on or not.
Chemical X
Footballguy
big toilet is the one with the monopoly. i mean, the product never changes. it’s crappy.
the moops
Footballguy
Frozen fries are better than fresh cut fries. For real.the issue might be an inconsistent product. i want the same thing i get every time i go somewhere, maybe with fresh it’s tougher.I know nothing about running a restaurant, but I always assumed you could make more profit with a French fry cutter and potatoes. Is that not right?For the restaurant, fries are the one thing I haven't found any leeway on.4 companies (2 in the US, 2 in Canada) are being sued for price-fixing of frozen potato products --- fries, hash browns, tater tots, etc. --- for the last 4 years. Together they control 98% of the US frozen potato product market. Their costs for getting potatoes rose until 2022, but when those costs dropped the 4 companies kept coordinating and raising their prices, often by the same amount around the same times. The best part is that the news is calling them a Potato Cartel.
I think most restaurants are gouging people because the increased costs on most things is overblown. I'm barely paying $3/lb for beef. People keep screaming about egg costs, but they were back to $2/dozen for years after the egg meltdown (starting to increase a little again, but that happens with eggs).
But there's no relief on fries.
Like with grocery stores, I think the frozen part is key. If there's competition, plenty of farmers, and it goes bad, prices will stay reasonable.
Freezers cost money so it's not exactly like holding Lucky Charms forever, but they can still hold quite a while waiting on someone to buy.
Not that I have any clue if there's collusion going on or not.
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
Makes sense I guessthe issue might be an inconsistent product. i want the same thing i get every time i go somewhere, maybe with fresh it’s tougher.I know nothing about running a restaurant, but I always assumed you could make more profit with a French fry cutter and potatoes. Is that not right?For the restaurant, fries are the one thing I haven't found any leeway on.4 companies (2 in the US, 2 in Canada) are being sued for price-fixing of frozen potato products --- fries, hash browns, tater tots, etc. --- for the last 4 years. Together they control 98% of the US frozen potato product market. Their costs for getting potatoes rose until 2022, but when those costs dropped the 4 companies kept coordinating and raising their prices, often by the same amount around the same times. The best part is that the news is calling them a Potato Cartel.
I think most restaurants are gouging people because the increased costs on most things is overblown. I'm barely paying $3/lb for beef. People keep screaming about egg costs, but they were back to $2/dozen for years after the egg meltdown (starting to increase a little again, but that happens with eggs).
But there's no relief on fries.
Like with grocery stores, I think the frozen part is key. If there's competition, plenty of farmers, and it goes bad, prices will stay reasonable.
Freezers cost money so it's not exactly like holding Lucky Charms forever, but they can still hold quite a while waiting on someone to buy.
Not that I have any clue if there's collusion going on or not.
blasphemyFrozen fries are better than fresh cut fries. For real.the issue might be an inconsistent product. i want the same thing i get every time i go somewhere, maybe with fresh it’s tougher.I know nothing about running a restaurant, but I always assumed you could make more profit with a French fry cutter and potatoes. Is that not right?For the restaurant, fries are the one thing I haven't found any leeway on.4 companies (2 in the US, 2 in Canada) are being sued for price-fixing of frozen potato products --- fries, hash browns, tater tots, etc. --- for the last 4 years. Together they control 98% of the US frozen potato product market. Their costs for getting potatoes rose until 2022, but when those costs dropped the 4 companies kept coordinating and raising their prices, often by the same amount around the same times. The best part is that the news is calling them a Potato Cartel.
I think most restaurants are gouging people because the increased costs on most things is overblown. I'm barely paying $3/lb for beef. People keep screaming about egg costs, but they were back to $2/dozen for years after the egg meltdown (starting to increase a little again, but that happens with eggs).
But there's no relief on fries.
Like with grocery stores, I think the frozen part is key. If there's competition, plenty of farmers, and it goes bad, prices will stay reasonable.
Freezers cost money so it's not exactly like holding Lucky Charms forever, but they can still hold quite a while waiting on someone to buy.
Not that I have any clue if there's collusion going on or not.
the moops
Footballguy
It's true. Par cook, freeze them, then fry
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
I thought you meant store bought frozen fries
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
In and out fries are terrible. Fresh cut.Makes sense I guessthe issue might be an inconsistent product. i want the same thing i get every time i go somewhere, maybe with fresh it’s tougher.I know nothing about running a restaurant, but I always assumed you could make more profit with a French fry cutter and potatoes. Is that not right?For the restaurant, fries are the one thing I haven't found any leeway on.4 companies (2 in the US, 2 in Canada) are being sued for price-fixing of frozen potato products --- fries, hash browns, tater tots, etc. --- for the last 4 years. Together they control 98% of the US frozen potato product market. Their costs for getting potatoes rose until 2022, but when those costs dropped the 4 companies kept coordinating and raising their prices, often by the same amount around the same times. The best part is that the news is calling them a Potato Cartel.
I think most restaurants are gouging people because the increased costs on most things is overblown. I'm barely paying $3/lb for beef. People keep screaming about egg costs, but they were back to $2/dozen for years after the egg meltdown (starting to increase a little again, but that happens with eggs).
But there's no relief on fries.
Like with grocery stores, I think the frozen part is key. If there's competition, plenty of farmers, and it goes bad, prices will stay reasonable.
Freezers cost money so it's not exactly like holding Lucky Charms forever, but they can still hold quite a while waiting on someone to buy.
Not that I have any clue if there's collusion going on or not.
blasphemyFrozen fries are better than fresh cut fries. For real.the issue might be an inconsistent product. i want the same thing i get every time i go somewhere, maybe with fresh it’s tougher.I know nothing about running a restaurant, but I always assumed you could make more profit with a French fry cutter and potatoes. Is that not right?For the restaurant, fries are the one thing I haven't found any leeway on.4 companies (2 in the US, 2 in Canada) are being sued for price-fixing of frozen potato products --- fries, hash browns, tater tots, etc. --- for the last 4 years. Together they control 98% of the US frozen potato product market. Their costs for getting potatoes rose until 2022, but when those costs dropped the 4 companies kept coordinating and raising their prices, often by the same amount around the same times. The best part is that the news is calling them a Potato Cartel.
I think most restaurants are gouging people because the increased costs on most things is overblown. I'm barely paying $3/lb for beef. People keep screaming about egg costs, but they were back to $2/dozen for years after the egg meltdown (starting to increase a little again, but that happens with eggs).
But there's no relief on fries.
Like with grocery stores, I think the frozen part is key. If there's competition, plenty of farmers, and it goes bad, prices will stay reasonable.
Freezers cost money so it's not exactly like holding Lucky Charms forever, but they can still hold quite a while waiting on someone to buy.
Not that I have any clue if there's collusion going on or not.
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
My badIn and out fries are terrible. Fresh cut.Makes sense I guessthe issue might be an inconsistent product. i want the same thing i get every time i go somewhere, maybe with fresh it’s tougher.I know nothing about running a restaurant, but I always assumed you could make more profit with a French fry cutter and potatoes. Is that not right?For the restaurant, fries are the one thing I haven't found any leeway on.4 companies (2 in the US, 2 in Canada) are being sued for price-fixing of frozen potato products --- fries, hash browns, tater tots, etc. --- for the last 4 years. Together they control 98% of the US frozen potato product market. Their costs for getting potatoes rose until 2022, but when those costs dropped the 4 companies kept coordinating and raising their prices, often by the same amount around the same times. The best part is that the news is calling them a Potato Cartel.
I think most restaurants are gouging people because the increased costs on most things is overblown. I'm barely paying $3/lb for beef. People keep screaming about egg costs, but they were back to $2/dozen for years after the egg meltdown (starting to increase a little again, but that happens with eggs).
But there's no relief on fries.
Like with grocery stores, I think the frozen part is key. If there's competition, plenty of farmers, and it goes bad, prices will stay reasonable.
Freezers cost money so it's not exactly like holding Lucky Charms forever, but they can still hold quite a while waiting on someone to buy.
Not that I have any clue if there's collusion going on or not.
blasphemyFrozen fries are better than fresh cut fries. For real.the issue might be an inconsistent product. i want the same thing i get every time i go somewhere, maybe with fresh it’s tougher.I know nothing about running a restaurant, but I always assumed you could make more profit with a French fry cutter and potatoes. Is that not right?For the restaurant, fries are the one thing I haven't found any leeway on.4 companies (2 in the US, 2 in Canada) are being sued for price-fixing of frozen potato products --- fries, hash browns, tater tots, etc. --- for the last 4 years. Together they control 98% of the US frozen potato product market. Their costs for getting potatoes rose until 2022, but when those costs dropped the 4 companies kept coordinating and raising their prices, often by the same amount around the same times. The best part is that the news is calling them a Potato Cartel.
I think most restaurants are gouging people because the increased costs on most things is overblown. I'm barely paying $3/lb for beef. People keep screaming about egg costs, but they were back to $2/dozen for years after the egg meltdown (starting to increase a little again, but that happens with eggs).
But there's no relief on fries.
Like with grocery stores, I think the frozen part is key. If there's competition, plenty of farmers, and it goes bad, prices will stay reasonable.
Freezers cost money so it's not exactly like holding Lucky Charms forever, but they can still hold quite a while waiting on someone to buy.
Not that I have any clue if there's collusion going on or not.
Properly prepared fresh cut fries are the best fries. IMO
the moops
Footballguy
Nope. They don't get as crispy as they shouldMy badIn and out fries are terrible. Fresh cut.Makes sense I guessthe issue might be an inconsistent product. i want the same thing i get every time i go somewhere, maybe with fresh it’s tougher.I know nothing about running a restaurant, but I always assumed you could make more profit with a French fry cutter and potatoes. Is that not right?For the restaurant, fries are the one thing I haven't found any leeway on.4 companies (2 in the US, 2 in Canada) are being sued for price-fixing of frozen potato products --- fries, hash browns, tater tots, etc. --- for the last 4 years. Together they control 98% of the US frozen potato product market. Their costs for getting potatoes rose until 2022, but when those costs dropped the 4 companies kept coordinating and raising their prices, often by the same amount around the same times. The best part is that the news is calling them a Potato Cartel.
I think most restaurants are gouging people because the increased costs on most things is overblown. I'm barely paying $3/lb for beef. People keep screaming about egg costs, but they were back to $2/dozen for years after the egg meltdown (starting to increase a little again, but that happens with eggs).
But there's no relief on fries.
Like with grocery stores, I think the frozen part is key. If there's competition, plenty of farmers, and it goes bad, prices will stay reasonable.
Freezers cost money so it's not exactly like holding Lucky Charms forever, but they can still hold quite a while waiting on someone to buy.
Not that I have any clue if there's collusion going on or not.
blasphemyFrozen fries are better than fresh cut fries. For real.the issue might be an inconsistent product. i want the same thing i get every time i go somewhere, maybe with fresh it’s tougher.I know nothing about running a restaurant, but I always assumed you could make more profit with a French fry cutter and potatoes. Is that not right?For the restaurant, fries are the one thing I haven't found any leeway on.4 companies (2 in the US, 2 in Canada) are being sued for price-fixing of frozen potato products --- fries, hash browns, tater tots, etc. --- for the last 4 years. Together they control 98% of the US frozen potato product market. Their costs for getting potatoes rose until 2022, but when those costs dropped the 4 companies kept coordinating and raising their prices, often by the same amount around the same times. The best part is that the news is calling them a Potato Cartel.
I think most restaurants are gouging people because the increased costs on most things is overblown. I'm barely paying $3/lb for beef. People keep screaming about egg costs, but they were back to $2/dozen for years after the egg meltdown (starting to increase a little again, but that happens with eggs).
But there's no relief on fries.
Like with grocery stores, I think the frozen part is key. If there's competition, plenty of farmers, and it goes bad, prices will stay reasonable.
Freezers cost money so it's not exactly like holding Lucky Charms forever, but they can still hold quite a while waiting on someone to buy.
Not that I have any clue if there's collusion going on or not.
Properly prepared fresh cut fries are the best fries. IMO
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
Not everyone wants to chip a tooth on a fry. Now if I’m putting beef gravy on them, that’s a different storyNope. They don't get as crispy as they shouldMy badIn and out fries are terrible. Fresh cut.Makes sense I guessthe issue might be an inconsistent product. i want the same thing i get every time i go somewhere, maybe with fresh it’s tougher.I know nothing about running a restaurant, but I always assumed you could make more profit with a French fry cutter and potatoes. Is that not right?For the restaurant, fries are the one thing I haven't found any leeway on.4 companies (2 in the US, 2 in Canada) are being sued for price-fixing of frozen potato products --- fries, hash browns, tater tots, etc. --- for the last 4 years. Together they control 98% of the US frozen potato product market. Their costs for getting potatoes rose until 2022, but when those costs dropped the 4 companies kept coordinating and raising their prices, often by the same amount around the same times. The best part is that the news is calling them a Potato Cartel.
I think most restaurants are gouging people because the increased costs on most things is overblown. I'm barely paying $3/lb for beef. People keep screaming about egg costs, but they were back to $2/dozen for years after the egg meltdown (starting to increase a little again, but that happens with eggs).
But there's no relief on fries.
Like with grocery stores, I think the frozen part is key. If there's competition, plenty of farmers, and it goes bad, prices will stay reasonable.
Freezers cost money so it's not exactly like holding Lucky Charms forever, but they can still hold quite a while waiting on someone to buy.
Not that I have any clue if there's collusion going on or not.
blasphemyFrozen fries are better than fresh cut fries. For real.the issue might be an inconsistent product. i want the same thing i get every time i go somewhere, maybe with fresh it’s tougher.I know nothing about running a restaurant, but I always assumed you could make more profit with a French fry cutter and potatoes. Is that not right?For the restaurant, fries are the one thing I haven't found any leeway on.4 companies (2 in the US, 2 in Canada) are being sued for price-fixing of frozen potato products --- fries, hash browns, tater tots, etc. --- for the last 4 years. Together they control 98% of the US frozen potato product market. Their costs for getting potatoes rose until 2022, but when those costs dropped the 4 companies kept coordinating and raising their prices, often by the same amount around the same times. The best part is that the news is calling them a Potato Cartel.
I think most restaurants are gouging people because the increased costs on most things is overblown. I'm barely paying $3/lb for beef. People keep screaming about egg costs, but they were back to $2/dozen for years after the egg meltdown (starting to increase a little again, but that happens with eggs).
But there's no relief on fries.
Like with grocery stores, I think the frozen part is key. If there's competition, plenty of farmers, and it goes bad, prices will stay reasonable.
Freezers cost money so it's not exactly like holding Lucky Charms forever, but they can still hold quite a while waiting on someone to buy.
Not that I have any clue if there's collusion going on or not.
Properly prepared fresh cut fries are the best fries. IMO
culdeus
Footballguy
They don't ice water bath them. You need to get potatoes cold prior to trying to make the starch work. Alton Brown has a video or did that discussed this. Frozen fries get....frozen so it takes care of that step.In and out fries are terrible. Fresh cut.Makes sense I guessthe issue might be an inconsistent product. i want the same thing i get every time i go somewhere, maybe with fresh it’s tougher.I know nothing about running a restaurant, but I always assumed you could make more profit with a French fry cutter and potatoes. Is that not right?For the restaurant, fries are the one thing I haven't found any leeway on.4 companies (2 in the US, 2 in Canada) are being sued for price-fixing of frozen potato products --- fries, hash browns, tater tots, etc. --- for the last 4 years. Together they control 98% of the US frozen potato product market. Their costs for getting potatoes rose until 2022, but when those costs dropped the 4 companies kept coordinating and raising their prices, often by the same amount around the same times. The best part is that the news is calling them a Potato Cartel.
I think most restaurants are gouging people because the increased costs on most things is overblown. I'm barely paying $3/lb for beef. People keep screaming about egg costs, but they were back to $2/dozen for years after the egg meltdown (starting to increase a little again, but that happens with eggs).
But there's no relief on fries.
Like with grocery stores, I think the frozen part is key. If there's competition, plenty of farmers, and it goes bad, prices will stay reasonable.
Freezers cost money so it's not exactly like holding Lucky Charms forever, but they can still hold quite a while waiting on someone to buy.
Not that I have any clue if there's collusion going on or not.
blasphemyFrozen fries are better than fresh cut fries. For real.the issue might be an inconsistent product. i want the same thing i get every time i go somewhere, maybe with fresh it’s tougher.I know nothing about running a restaurant, but I always assumed you could make more profit with a French fry cutter and potatoes. Is that not right?For the restaurant, fries are the one thing I haven't found any leeway on.4 companies (2 in the US, 2 in Canada) are being sued for price-fixing of frozen potato products --- fries, hash browns, tater tots, etc. --- for the last 4 years. Together they control 98% of the US frozen potato product market. Their costs for getting potatoes rose until 2022, but when those costs dropped the 4 companies kept coordinating and raising their prices, often by the same amount around the same times. The best part is that the news is calling them a Potato Cartel.
I think most restaurants are gouging people because the increased costs on most things is overblown. I'm barely paying $3/lb for beef. People keep screaming about egg costs, but they were back to $2/dozen for years after the egg meltdown (starting to increase a little again, but that happens with eggs).
But there's no relief on fries.
Like with grocery stores, I think the frozen part is key. If there's competition, plenty of farmers, and it goes bad, prices will stay reasonable.
Freezers cost money so it's not exactly like holding Lucky Charms forever, but they can still hold quite a while waiting on someone to buy.
Not that I have any clue if there's collusion going on or not.
kupcho1
Footballguy
Of all of your terrible takes, and there are many, this may be the worst.
Also, adding "for real" doesn't bolster your case
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
I’m aware. And it doesn’t need to be ice water. Simply being in water long enough will do the trickThey don't ice water bath them. You need to get potatoes cold prior to trying to make the starch work. Alton Brown has a video or did that discussed this. Frozen fries get....frozen so it takes care of that step.In and out fries are terrible. Fresh cut.Makes sense I guessthe issue might be an inconsistent product. i want the same thing i get every time i go somewhere, maybe with fresh it’s tougher.I know nothing about running a restaurant, but I always assumed you could make more profit with a French fry cutter and potatoes. Is that not right?For the restaurant, fries are the one thing I haven't found any leeway on.4 companies (2 in the US, 2 in Canada) are being sued for price-fixing of frozen potato products --- fries, hash browns, tater tots, etc. --- for the last 4 years. Together they control 98% of the US frozen potato product market. Their costs for getting potatoes rose until 2022, but when those costs dropped the 4 companies kept coordinating and raising their prices, often by the same amount around the same times. The best part is that the news is calling them a Potato Cartel.
I think most restaurants are gouging people because the increased costs on most things is overblown. I'm barely paying $3/lb for beef. People keep screaming about egg costs, but they were back to $2/dozen for years after the egg meltdown (starting to increase a little again, but that happens with eggs).
But there's no relief on fries.
Like with grocery stores, I think the frozen part is key. If there's competition, plenty of farmers, and it goes bad, prices will stay reasonable.
Freezers cost money so it's not exactly like holding Lucky Charms forever, but they can still hold quite a while waiting on someone to buy.
Not that I have any clue if there's collusion going on or not.
blasphemyFrozen fries are better than fresh cut fries. For real.the issue might be an inconsistent product. i want the same thing i get every time i go somewhere, maybe with fresh it’s tougher.I know nothing about running a restaurant, but I always assumed you could make more profit with a French fry cutter and potatoes. Is that not right?For the restaurant, fries are the one thing I haven't found any leeway on.4 companies (2 in the US, 2 in Canada) are being sued for price-fixing of frozen potato products --- fries, hash browns, tater tots, etc. --- for the last 4 years. Together they control 98% of the US frozen potato product market. Their costs for getting potatoes rose until 2022, but when those costs dropped the 4 companies kept coordinating and raising their prices, often by the same amount around the same times. The best part is that the news is calling them a Potato Cartel.
I think most restaurants are gouging people because the increased costs on most things is overblown. I'm barely paying $3/lb for beef. People keep screaming about egg costs, but they were back to $2/dozen for years after the egg meltdown (starting to increase a little again, but that happens with eggs).
But there's no relief on fries.
Like with grocery stores, I think the frozen part is key. If there's competition, plenty of farmers, and it goes bad, prices will stay reasonable.
Freezers cost money so it's not exactly like holding Lucky Charms forever, but they can still hold quite a while waiting on someone to buy.
Not that I have any clue if there's collusion going on or not.
the moops
Footballguy
Not talking bagged from the grocery store frozen. The proper and bette way to make fries is to par cook them, freeze them, then fry them.
culdeus
Footballguy
For **** sake brined organic at whole foods is 4.49 a pound.
Instinctive
Footballguy
Hey man value what you value. I value a local independent butcher.
culdeus
Footballguy
It's a turkey. The part anyone eats has no fat in it. There's no way to make turkey better by treating them nicer no matter what you pay. If you object to the way turkeys are treated then eat tofu or get a rib roast from a grass fed beef place you trust.
Instinctive
Footballguy
Ok
By the way checked website and sent wife to whole foods and don't see any 3+ pound butchered raw turkey breasts to buy.
Gatorade
Footballguy
This article did not tell you the whole story. Yes, it cost less this year than 2022 or 2023. What it did not tell you is that it still cost 19% more this year than it did on 2019.A "classic" Thanksgiving feast for a party of 10 will cost $58.08 in 2024, on average — down 5% from 2023
Thanksgiving meals are expected to be cheaper in 2024 as turkey prices drop
The average Thanksgiving meal costs less in 2024 relative to last year, largely due to declining turkey prices, economists said.
Bull crap
Over last 50 years average inflation is 3.8%. So over 5 years, 19 divided by 5 is equal to 3.8%, right on the average.This article did not tell you the whole story. Yes, it cost less this year than 2022 or 2023. What it did not tell you is that it still cost 19% more this year than it did on 2019.A "classic" Thanksgiving feast for a party of 10 will cost $58.08 in 2024, on average — down 5% from 2023
Thanksgiving meals are expected to be cheaper in 2024 as turkey prices drop
The average Thanksgiving meal costs less in 2024 relative to last year, largely due to declining turkey prices, economists said.
Bull crap
rockaction
Footballguy
Somehow I can feel the political gnashing of teeth undergirding this whole conversation. I think it would break down along predictable lines and voting patterns. But that’s why MoP reeled all you fish in, huh?
pollardsvision
Footballguy
I've considered it and used to with a really small food truck, but for larger volume, it requires a lot of space and time that I don't have.I know nothing about running a restaurant, but I always assumed you could make more profit with a French fry cutter and potatoes. Is that not right?For the restaurant, fries are the one thing I haven't found any leeway on.4 companies (2 in the US, 2 in Canada) are being sued for price-fixing of frozen potato products --- fries, hash browns, tater tots, etc. --- for the last 4 years. Together they control 98% of the US frozen potato product market. Their costs for getting potatoes rose until 2022, but when those costs dropped the 4 companies kept coordinating and raising their prices, often by the same amount around the same times. The best part is that the news is calling them a Potato Cartel.
I think most restaurants are gouging people because the increased costs on most things is overblown. I'm barely paying $3/lb for beef. People keep screaming about egg costs, but they were back to $2/dozen for years after the egg meltdown (starting to increase a little again, but that happens with eggs).
But there's no relief on fries.
Like with grocery stores, I think the frozen part is key. If there's competition, plenty of farmers, and it goes bad, prices will stay reasonable.
Freezers cost money so it's not exactly like holding Lucky Charms forever, but they can still hold quite a while waiting on someone to buy.
Not that I have any clue if there's collusion going on or not.
There are different methods, but generally you want to cut, soak, and fry twice.
Each step requires different types of storage, so it takes up a lot of space
A place like Five Guys can do it because they have a very limited menu (and charge insane prices so they can afford all the extra labor involved).
But there's a reason most restaurants don't, even though buying frozen is expensive.
FairWarning
Footballguy
The independent butcher is more likely to buy local meat that isn’t filled with chemicals. Some will definitely pay for that alone.
FairWarning
Footballguy
It’s why places like Pizza Hut will never go away. They always have coupons or deals on their mobile app. If you have a bunch of kids over, Pizza Hut it is.
ChiefD
Footballguy
Nope. They don't get as crispy as they shouldMy badIn and out fries are terrible. Fresh cut.Makes sense I guessthe issue might be an inconsistent product. i want the same thing i get every time i go somewhere, maybe with fresh it’s tougher.I know nothing about running a restaurant, but I always assumed you could make more profit with a French fry cutter and potatoes. Is that not right?For the restaurant, fries are the one thing I haven't found any leeway on.4 companies (2 in the US, 2 in Canada) are being sued for price-fixing of frozen potato products --- fries, hash browns, tater tots, etc. --- for the last 4 years. Together they control 98% of the US frozen potato product market. Their costs for getting potatoes rose until 2022, but when those costs dropped the 4 companies kept coordinating and raising their prices, often by the same amount around the same times. The best part is that the news is calling them a Potato Cartel.
I think most restaurants are gouging people because the increased costs on most things is overblown. I'm barely paying $3/lb for beef. People keep screaming about egg costs, but they were back to $2/dozen for years after the egg meltdown (starting to increase a little again, but that happens with eggs).
But there's no relief on fries.
Like with grocery stores, I think the frozen part is key. If there's competition, plenty of farmers, and it goes bad, prices will stay reasonable.
Freezers cost money so it's not exactly like holding Lucky Charms forever, but they can still hold quite a while waiting on someone to buy.
Not that I have any clue if there's collusion going on or not.
blasphemyFrozen fries are better than fresh cut fries. For real.the issue might be an inconsistent product. i want the same thing i get every time i go somewhere, maybe with fresh it’s tougher.I know nothing about running a restaurant, but I always assumed you could make more profit with a French fry cutter and potatoes. Is that not right?For the restaurant, fries are the one thing I haven't found any leeway on.4 companies (2 in the US, 2 in Canada) are being sued for price-fixing of frozen potato products --- fries, hash browns, tater tots, etc. --- for the last 4 years. Together they control 98% of the US frozen potato product market. Their costs for getting potatoes rose until 2022, but when those costs dropped the 4 companies kept coordinating and raising their prices, often by the same amount around the same times. The best part is that the news is calling them a Potato Cartel.
I think most restaurants are gouging people because the increased costs on most things is overblown. I'm barely paying $3/lb for beef. People keep screaming about egg costs, but they were back to $2/dozen for years after the egg meltdown (starting to increase a little again, but that happens with eggs).
But there's no relief on fries.
Like with grocery stores, I think the frozen part is key. If there's competition, plenty of farmers, and it goes bad, prices will stay reasonable.
Freezers cost money so it's not exactly like holding Lucky Charms forever, but they can still hold quite a while waiting on someone to buy.
Not that I have any clue if there's collusion going on or not.
Properly prepared fresh cut fries are the best fries. IMO
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