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Grocery Store-What are you paying for food? (3 Viewers)

Egg prices are going to keep going up.

"And the supply of eggs is down, too. Avian flu, which is spread through wild birds, has been plaguing farmers and egg supply since January 2022. The virus has killed 108 million birds since then, and 75 million of those were laying eggs, according to the American Farm Bureau Federation. That’s impacted 8% of the nationwide supply.

Cases started to spike again last month, with avian flu killing 2.8 million egg-laying birds in the key egg-producing states of Oregon, Utah and Washington. That’s a projected loss of about 60 million eggs, according to a report by the US Department of Agriculture. “Our egg prices really ride the waves associated with high influenza,” said Bernt Nelson, an economist with the American Farm Bureau Federation."
 
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4 companies (2 in the US, 2 in Canada) are being sued for price-fixing of frozen potato products --- fries, hash browns, tater tots, etc. --- for the last 4 years. Together they control 98% of the US frozen potato product market. Their costs for getting potatoes rose until 2022, but when those costs dropped the 4 companies kept coordinating and raising their prices, often by the same amount around the same times. The best part is that the news is calling them a Potato Cartel. :lol:


For the restaurant, fries are the one thing I haven't found any leeway on.

I think most restaurants are gouging people because the increased costs on most things is overblown. I'm barely paying $3/lb for beef. People keep screaming about egg costs, but they were back to $2/dozen for years after the egg meltdown (starting to increase a little again, but that happens with eggs).

But there's no relief on fries.

Like with grocery stores, I think the frozen part is key. If there's competition, plenty of farmers, and it goes bad, prices will stay reasonable.
Freezers cost money so it's not exactly like holding Lucky Charms forever, but they can still hold quite a while waiting on someone to buy.

Not that I have any clue if there's collusion going on or not.
I know nothing about running a restaurant, but I always assumed you could make more profit with a French fry cutter and potatoes. Is that not right?
the issue might be an inconsistent product. i want the same thing i get every time i go somewhere, maybe with fresh it’s tougher.
Makes sense I guess
4 companies (2 in the US, 2 in Canada) are being sued for price-fixing of frozen potato products --- fries, hash browns, tater tots, etc. --- for the last 4 years. Together they control 98% of the US frozen potato product market. Their costs for getting potatoes rose until 2022, but when those costs dropped the 4 companies kept coordinating and raising their prices, often by the same amount around the same times. The best part is that the news is calling them a Potato Cartel. :lol:


For the restaurant, fries are the one thing I haven't found any leeway on.

I think most restaurants are gouging people because the increased costs on most things is overblown. I'm barely paying $3/lb for beef. People keep screaming about egg costs, but they were back to $2/dozen for years after the egg meltdown (starting to increase a little again, but that happens with eggs).

But there's no relief on fries.

Like with grocery stores, I think the frozen part is key. If there's competition, plenty of farmers, and it goes bad, prices will stay reasonable.
Freezers cost money so it's not exactly like holding Lucky Charms forever, but they can still hold quite a while waiting on someone to buy.

Not that I have any clue if there's collusion going on or not.
I know nothing about running a restaurant, but I always assumed you could make more profit with a French fry cutter and potatoes. Is that not right?
the issue might be an inconsistent product. i want the same thing i get every time i go somewhere, maybe with fresh it’s tougher.
Frozen fries are better than fresh cut fries. For real.
blasphemy
In and out fries are terrible. Fresh cut.
My bad

Properly prepared fresh cut fries are the best fries. IMO
Nope. They don't get as crispy as they should

This Is The Way
You are a treasure my friend. I want to drink beer with you and make/eat fries while fighting off the womenfolk.
 
Egg prices are going to keep going up.

And the supply of eggs is down, too. Avian flu, which is spread through wild birds, has been plaguing farmers and egg supply since January 2022. The virus has killed 108 million birds since then, and 75 million of those were laying eggs, according to the American Farm Bureau Federation. That’s impacted 8% of the nationwide supply.

Cases started to spike again last month, with avian flu killing 2.8 million egg-laying birds in the key egg-producing states of Oregon, Utah and Washington. That’s a projected loss of about 60 million eggs, according to a report by the US Department of Agriculture.
Going up in Michigan as the chickens must be free-range now.
 
Egg prices by country ... higher wages plus more regulation = higher price. In switzerland the eggs don't even get refrigerated. 20 day life from the date laid, which must be on the egg along with it's cuticle on the shell. Probably similar for some other Euro countries. not sure US consumers even know what an egg in cuticle looks like

Honest question: Are we supposed to admire the countries with cheaper egg prices than ours, or the countries with more expensive egg prices than ours?
 
Dropping prices have led to layoffs of 5% of Cargil's workforce of 160,000 workers. 8,000 workers get laid off.

This week's layoff announcement arrives while much of the agricultural industry continues to face dropping prices for the commodities they trade, with the costs of anything from wheat to vegetable oil coming down from record surges seen during the COVID-19 pandemic and global conflicts such as Russia's war in Ukraine. While sticker prices for consumers are still higher than they were just several years ago, that shift has added pressures on food giants like Cargill.
 
Dropping prices have led to layoffs of 5% of Cargil's workforce of 160,000 workers. 8,000 workers get laid off.

This week's layoff announcement arrives while much of the agricultural industry continues to face dropping prices for the commodities they trade, with the costs of anything from wheat to vegetable oil coming down from record surges seen during the COVID-19 pandemic and global conflicts such as Russia's war in Ukraine. While sticker prices for consumers are still higher than they were just several years ago, that shift has added pressures on food giants like Cargill.
not seeing where it says dropping prices are what is causing the layoffs, Also, prices still higher than they were several years ago, doesn't really make sense that prices falling a bit now would be the cause of layoffs.
 
Honest question: Are we supposed to admire the countries with cheaper egg prices than ours, or the countries with more expensive egg prices than ours?
That's a fargin' trick question!

The answer of course is none of them. You're not supposed to admire any country other than the United States of America.

Or is it a trick question in the other way. It is alright to admit that while US is a great country there are also other great countries out there that have both higher and lower egg prices than ours.
 
Honest question: Are we supposed to admire the countries with cheaper egg prices than ours, or the countries with more expensive egg prices than ours?
That's a fargin' trick question!

The answer of course is none of them. You're not supposed to admire any country other than the United States of America.

Or is it a trick question in the other way. It is alright to admit that while US is a great country there are also other great countries out there that have both higher and lower egg prices than ours.
LAUGH EMOJI
 
I found my blue eggs from "Happy Farm" that I like...$9.50 at Publix and only $7.99 per dozen at Fresh Mkt
Since I like the deals on Tuesdays at Fresh Mkt...$3.99 in house ground chuck, $4.99 ground chicken breast, $3.99 boneless skinless chix breast

4-pack Coke in the bottle from Mexico almost $9 at Publix...$6.99 at Fresh Mkt, single bottle are close to $3 at Publix
I can't drink HFCS but I was shocked what a 12-pack of cans is running full retail, 2-liters of soda and other products, not cheap

-Still see a lot of BoGo deals on the snack isle to entice you to buy chips of all kinds...but that's not real food.

-Apples, organic, $4-$6 per POUND!
-Potatoes are inching up to $2.50 per pound...I have to buy the loose ones that are much larger than what they shove in those little 5 lb bags, I never get how folks can buy produce they can't even see or examine. I've yet to pick up a bag of potatoes, onions, whatever they put in 3 and 5 b bags, always a couple bad ones tucked in
I have to buy loose produce where I can examine what I'm buying

-Publix has a very liberal return policy, pretty much anything as well as Fresh Market and yes I am that guy that has no issues at all returning food and getting a store credit
 
When I lived in SoCal it was a lot easier to buy groceries, not saying things are cheaper in California but they have many major grocery chains on top of the specialty grocery stores and the ones that you know are going to cost double whatever you normally pay at Aldi's

-My son shops Aldi's and I can't stand that store, went to one in NC for the first time when my friend had open heart surgery...I found out quickly how low on funds he was and I found the food in the Aldi's in his area to be pretty low quality...ironically he's a manager at Whole Foods, we met in Miami and it's a long story we don't have time for. But my point was I immediately took him out of there and went to several other nicer grocery stores and the prices are a little higher for sure but the difference in food quality was night and day. I paid for ALL FOOD when I showed up to take care of him for a week

You can do a lot to me and you can ask a lot of me but you will never make me adopt a pauper's lifestyle when I worked hard to get out of poverty growing up. I love a good deal and brag about some of the food I can get on the cheap at places like Fresh Market a couple times a week, they also run premium steaks and cuts on sale Fridays, today they have NY Strip and Ribeye on sale.

Champagne Taste - Beer Budget is how I would describe myself. I'll spring for a lot of things and I feel like food is something that's worth spending a little more on to get better quality and better tasting food. Half the reason people hate veggies is because they're not that fresh when they grab them in the grocery store. I have asked Produce Managers to clear entire displays of food because everything I grab is spoiled or looks like it fell off the back of a truck and then was run over by several cars before landing on the produce pile again

My favorite thing is to pick up things out of date in a clear display to sell or find rotten produce while I am shopping and simply ask them if they would eat that...answer is always NO and then I ask them so why would you try and sell this to people?
 
Ground Chuck/Ground Sirloin $4 and $5/lb on Tuesday at Fresh Market
I can do a lot with that but my number one go to is Chili, especially when it finally dips under 80 down here in Florida

Ground chicken breast $5/lb...chicken tacos that simply shame most of the local joints around here, my wife has perfected these. We have that at least once a week
Chicken Cutlets on Tuesdays are just $4.99/lb, 2 of them weigh pound and a half, that will yield almost 4 chicken sandwiches for lunch since my wife and I do not like to leave the house for lunch, big waste of time trying to rustle up lunch so we typically stay in.

I freely admit that outside of the meat case, Fresh Market is largely useless for many other items, expensive for the most part but they have weekly deals on meats, no reason to suffer

-Another thing we don't discuss much is not just the prices but the fact that most people cannot cut up an entire chicken and then use the bones or the carcass to make chicken soup
Who does that anymore? Nobody I know but growing up in a poor neighborhood, most of the families could do this. Part of the issue is most of us will not cook from scratch so we pay a premium to eat things that are ready to roll or ready to "cook"
 
-Another thing we don't discuss much is not just the prices but the fact that most people cannot cut up an entire chicken and then use the bones or the carcass to make chicken soup
Who does that anymore? Nobody I know but growing up in a poor neighborhood, most of the families could do this. Part of the issue is most of us will not cook from scratch so we pay a premium to eat things that are ready to roll or ready to "cook"
This is actually really important. Something that I already liked (cooking) is now a money saver since I'm on parental leave and actually home all week. Things I've already done that gave meals at extra good prices:

Smoked ham at Thanksgiving has led to:
1. Eating it at Thanksgiving
2. Ham stock (amazingly flavorful due to saving all my veggies scraps for a month or so)
3. Ham fried rice (rice is super cheap, even good stuff)
4. Ham sandwiches
5. Ham and eggs breakfast
6. Gonna use the stock and some meatier cubes to make a pozole

Excellent.

Also I can dice onion, carrot, celery, garlic, shallots etc all in one afternoon and have them ready for every dinner. And I can use leftovers - like extra rice, chimichurri, stir fried veggies, etc they all get a second life

I'm gonna figure out and get a larger amount of beef from a butcher and cut some steaks, trim, ground beef myself, all that stuff too. I love when fun things save money too.
 
-Another thing we don't discuss much is not just the prices but the fact that most people cannot cut up an entire chicken and then use the bones or the carcass to make chicken soup
Who does that anymore?
I do, with poultry and ham.
Most of my soups take 4-5 hours to make, are really good, and are several meals worth for the 2 of us.
Yep. I just put 20 containers of homemade turkey rice soup in the freezer for the winter
 
-Another thing we don't discuss much is not just the prices but the fact that most people cannot cut up an entire chicken and then use the bones or the carcass to make chicken soup
Who does that anymore? Nobody I know but growing up in a poor neighborhood, most of the families could do this. Part of the issue is most of us will not cook from scratch so we pay a premium to eat things that are ready to roll or ready to "cook"
This is actually really important. Something that I already liked (cooking) is now a money saver since I'm on parental leave and actually home all week. Things I've already done that gave meals at extra good prices:

Smoked ham at Thanksgiving has led to:
1. Eating it at Thanksgiving
2. Ham stock (amazingly flavorful due to saving all my veggies scraps for a month or so)
3. Ham fried rice (rice is super cheap, even good stuff)
4. Ham sandwiches
5. Ham and eggs breakfast
6. Gonna use the stock and some meatier cubes to make a pozole

Excellent.

Also I can dice onion, carrot, celery, garlic, shallots etc all in one afternoon and have them ready for every dinner. And I can use leftovers - like extra rice, chimichurri, stir fried veggies, etc they all get a second life

I'm gonna figure out and get a larger amount of beef from a butcher and cut some steaks, trim, ground beef myself, all that stuff too. I love when fun things save money too.
It's all about priorities. There are times each year we need to cut corners, but we prep frozen meals so we're not eating out too much when that happens. The rest of the year? We prioritize home cooked meals.

Almost all of the Thanksgiving leftovers are now gone, just have some potatoes and turkey soup (made with the remnants) left. She's mixing up some pork belly right now, will pair with those potatoes and a salad. If tomorrow's snow day plays out, she's going to bump up the homemade pasta she's planning to do Saturday. If not, tiger shrimp and asparagus it is- simple, fresh, but quick.
 
-Another thing we don't discuss much is not just the prices but the fact that most people cannot cut up an entire chicken and then use the bones or the carcass to make chicken soup
Who does that anymore? Nobody I know but growing up in a poor neighborhood, most of the families could do this. Part of the issue is most of us will not cook from scratch so we pay a premium to eat things that are ready to roll or ready to "cook"
This is actually really important. Something that I already liked (cooking) is now a money saver since I'm on parental leave and actually home all week. Things I've already done that gave meals at extra good prices:

Smoked ham at Thanksgiving has led to:
1. Eating it at Thanksgiving
2. Ham stock (amazingly flavorful due to saving all my veggies scraps for a month or so)
3. Ham fried rice (rice is super cheap, even good stuff)
4. Ham sandwiches
5. Ham and eggs breakfast
6. Gonna use the stock and some meatier cubes to make a pozole

Excellent.

Also I can dice onion, carrot, celery, garlic, shallots etc all in one afternoon and have them ready for every dinner. And I can use leftovers - like extra rice, chimichurri, stir fried veggies, etc they all get a second life

I'm gonna figure out and get a larger amount of beef from a butcher and cut some steaks, trim, ground beef myself, all that stuff too. I love when fun things save money too.
Outstanding!
 
True cheap soup story: We had a hambone with some meat on it frozen, and another bag of ham scraps from cooking. And we had a bag of white beans that had been in the cupboard for forever. I remembered that once in awhile mom would make ham and bean soup, and I loved it, and I never had it again after she went back to work in (my) 8th grade. I couldn't ask her for the recipe because she was beyond able to do that in the late states of dementia, so I had to try to cook what I remembered from my childhood. Ham, white beans, carrots, celery, onions, try to make them look like the right proportional amounts in the pot. The only thing I changed was adding about 8 bay leaves while making the stock, and then pitching the veggies after 3-4 hours of boiling them dead and replacing them with fresh cut ones and cooking another hour. It was so damn good and I felt happy like a kid.

And thinking of it in the context of this topic, it's a cheap way to make multiple good meals.
 
Stopped to pick up a few things tonight. Eggs are almost $10 a dozen at the local grocery store.

I was also reading they expect up to another 20% increase on eggs this year.

This stinks.
 
I saw this on the twitter the other day and thought, wow, that's pretty expensive

egg prices at an all time high

I get that egg prices have essentially become a meme, somehow it's replaced gas prices as the lead economic story on clickbait stories, Twitter, FB, Next Door, magic football message boards, and the local news (probably because gas prices, which obviously go up and down, are essentially at the same level they were in 2006-07). But a google search says that the average american eats 280 eggs per year. So if, based on that chart, a "normal" price for a dozen eggs is around $2, we're talking an extra $9 per month per person if prices stay this high. A family of four, $36 extra per month. That's not nothing, but sure seems like a weird thing that has become this huge focus.
 
I can't speak for everyone, and by no means is egg price affecting any of my families spending/budgeting/etc...
but I will say that we buy at least 18 eggs per week, probably closer to 36 every 3 weeks, and at an average cost of $6.00/dozen now vs.$2.00/dozen a few years ago it's just interesting to me.
I mean it's a few hundred bucks a year for a staple.
And as I type this, news is running a story about egg prices, Interesting.
 
I can't speak for everyone, and by no means is egg price affecting any of my families spending/budgeting/etc...
but I will say that we buy at least 18 eggs per week, probably closer to 36 every 3 weeks, and at an average cost of $6.00/dozen now vs.$2.00/dozen a few years ago it's just interesting to me.
I mean it's a few hundred bucks a year for a staple.
And as I type this, news is running a story about egg prices, Interesting.
Housing. Transportation. Insurance. Lots of inflation in areas that make a real difference in the median consumers’ budget. This egg thing just seems like it has become such a meme while having very little real world impact on most US consumers.

And yes I know this is the grocery store prices thread not the economy thread, so I’ll bow out and y’all can carry on. Ain’t nothing wrong with trying to find some deals while feeding the fam!
 
I can't speak for everyone, and by no means is egg price affecting any of my families spending/budgeting/etc...
but I will say that we buy at least 18 eggs per week, probably closer to 36 every 3 weeks, and at an average cost of $6.00/dozen now vs.$2.00/dozen a few years ago it's just interesting to me.
I mean it's a few hundred bucks a year for a staple.
And as I type this, news is running a story about egg prices, Interesting.
Maybe prices have jumped over the last week because of bird flu but I haven't seen that type of increase. I buy pasture raised eggs at Whole Foods for 5 bucks a carton, I think a few years go might've been 4 bucks. I will say I have seen prices a bit higher at other grocery stores which is why i get them at Whole Foods, but on the other hand I checked at Wal mart a few weeks ago and they were like 3 bucks for basic eggs.
 
Stopped to pick up a few things tonight. Eggs are almost $10 a dozen at the local grocery store.

I was also reading they expect up to another 20% increase on eggs this year.

This stinks.
$10, seriously? I've seen a shortage of eggs lately but didn't know what was up.
Tell me they were organic or free range.
What about the pink styrofoam half dozens?

Are we at a buck per egg at this point? I remember as a kid getting the $1.99 breakfast special with 2 eggs, potatoes and toast
 
Bought 5 Dozen at Costco for either 15.99 or 16.99. Obviously, they were cheaper in the past. We regularly buy that and I have to say, this carton had some of the biggest eggs in it that I've seen from Costco for some time.
 
Stopped to pick up a few things tonight. Eggs are almost $10 a dozen at the local grocery store.

I was also reading they expect up to another 20% increase on eggs this year.

This stinks.
$10, seriously? I've seen a shortage of eggs lately but didn't know what was up.
Tell me they were organic or free range.
What about the pink styrofoam half dozens?

Are we at a buck per egg at this point? I remember as a kid getting the $1.99 breakfast special with 2 eggs, potatoes and toast
"Pasture raised"

6.69 for the generic large eggs

Picked up some egg whites in a box type stuff. I don't know how healthy that stuff is, but I'll give it a try.
 
We used to have chickens. I don't miss those creatures but sure do miss the copious amounts of eggs.

Fortunately have several folks in our neighborhood who have chickens and they share eggs often
 
We used to have chickens. I don't miss those creatures but sure do miss the copious amounts of eggs.

Fortunately have several folks in our neighborhood who have chickens and they share eggs often
Our next door neighbor had them, but someone narc'd on them (she thinks it was her niece) and they had to give them up in fall. Those things would certainly be nice right about now. Never bought eggs at Costco before, but gonna price check them.
 
We used to have chickens. I don't miss those creatures but sure do miss the copious amounts of eggs.

Fortunately have several folks in our neighborhood who have chickens and they share eggs often
You could see how your plan to combat the rising egg prices might be a bit of a challenge for the average American
 
We used to have chickens. I don't miss those creatures but sure do miss the copious amounts of eggs.

Fortunately have several folks in our neighborhood who have chickens and they share eggs often
You could see how your plan to combat the rising egg prices might be a bit of a challenge for the average American
Where in my post did you think that I was advocating home chickens as a way to combat egg prices for the average american?
 
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we're talking an extra $9 per month per person if prices stay this high. A family of four, $36 extra per month. That's not nothing, but sure seems like a weird thing that has become this huge focus.
I'm guessing its the one that is easily identifiable. It's those little things like that which are adding up. So yeah, it's $9 extra a week for the eggs. Another $1 or 2 a week on milk. And so on and so on. Before you know it your grocery bill is another $100 a month.

That doesn't sound like a lot but thats A LOT to a lot of families. You then add that to increased cost on insurance and fuel and car repairs and all the stuff that is crazy high in prices right now.

It's scary times in my house, that's for sure.
 
This egg thing just seems like it has become such a meme while having very little real world impact on most US consumers.
Eggs have gone from about $4 for 18 to $4.75 - $5 in my world. But I use Sams and Costco (even though I'm just one) for stuff like this and meat/poultry. I haven't seen massive shifts on any of it. Can't tell you what the local grocery store is charging though.
 
I don't do a lot of the shopping, so I'm hardly knowledgeable on prices, but I do get to hear my wife complain about them. I've seen a couple posts with empty egg sections at local stores and I've read the egg shortage due to the bird flu impact stories. Walking through the Piggly Wiggly, I noticed the shelves were pretty stocked, but the prices were crazy.

We don't eat enough eggs that's it's a major impact to us personally, but obviously concerning considering they still expect prices to rise another 20%.
 
Interesting article about the differences between egg production in Canada and in the US. Basically US egg farms are huge, with millions of birds, while those in Canada are much smaller with about 25,000 birds. So when avian flu hits and the whole flock has to be killed, it affects supply and prices more in the US than in Canada. And when times are good, US eggs are usually cheaper.

 
Stopped to pick up a few things tonight. Eggs are almost $10 a dozen at the local grocery store.

I was also reading they expect up to another 20% increase on eggs this year.

This stinks.
$10, seriously? I've seen a shortage of eggs lately but didn't know what was up.
Tell me they were organic or free range.
What about the pink styrofoam half dozens?

Are we at a buck per egg at this point? I remember as a kid getting the $1.99 breakfast special with 2 eggs, potatoes and toast
"Pasture raised"

6.69 for the generic large eggs

Picked up some egg whites in a box type stuff. I don't know how healthy that stuff is, but I'll give it a try.
That's excessive and seems out of line with standard pricing, not sure if you live in Hawaii or are visiting a bodega but if you have other stores you can try I would go there.
 
think i’ve shared here before that i recently moved to italy and food prices are pretty low. i get killed on energy though. store eggs are pretty cheap but, we do have chickens on my property that are tended to by my 90 yr old neighbor. every 1-2 weeks he gives me a dozen. eggs here are not refrigerated.
 
I was pleasantly surprised to see our local Kroger owned store offer 18 eggs for $4.49. I picked up 4 cartons. Regular price was 6.29.
Always looking for this kind of deal. We eat enough eggs in this house that buying in bulk is worth it. They last something like two months in the fridge -- maybe longer than that.

...

Last week, I bought a carton of 18 eggs and accidentally dropped them in the parking lot. From maybe waist-high, and they landed flush (not on the side). All the eggs were cracked, but not shattered -- the cracked shells largely kept in the whites/yolks and the yolks remained whole.

I didn't toss the broken eggs -- I took them home and cracked all the eggs into zip-loc sandwich baggies. Some baggies with two eggs, some with three. Into the fridge they went, and I've been cooking with them since. Just used the last of them this morning. No loss of quality whatsoever.
 
So if, based on that chart, a "normal" price for a dozen eggs is around $2, we're talking an extra $9 per month per person if prices stay this high. A family of four, $36 extra per month. That's not nothing, but sure seems like a weird thing that has become this huge focus.
It's because "Eggs are so expensive!" is a proxy for "Groceries are about 50-75% higher than they were several years ago". Don't know of research and charts bear out that 50-75% number exactly, but that's about what it feels like.

But anyway, it's one thing to harp on the general grocery-prices increase ... but then you can hold up the egg-prices increase uniquely and cite a much more impressive rise -- a 300% increase over the past six months or so (!).
 

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