Seems like its a moot point this week - I have not heard any news, but with a MNF game, it would be almost impossible to trust him to play, let alone play effectively this week. I'd still hold him for next week. At this point, the only way I would advocate playing him, is if you need to really gamble on a 12+ point game from a TE.
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Gronk broken forearm? (2 Viewers)
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I Am the Stig
Footballguy
Monday Night game sucks for this but if you knew he was gonna play, you have to start him.
Rob Gronkowski, who has missed two games with a broken forearm, is expected to miss at least two more and could be out for the remainder of the regular season. That’s the same timetable that was originally forecasted, according to numerous sources close to the All-Pro tight end.
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Droppable?
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Droppable?
this - I'd only drop him for someone you would start. Maybe if you wanted to hold an extra D for a good match-up next week.
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Insoxicated
OMGOMGOMG
I got rid of him for this week with Shorts out and Harvin on IR. I needed a flex and didn't want anyone else in the playoffs grabbing someone useful. If he starts practicing at any point then I may grab him again, but at this point, I still think week 16 is the earliest he plays. Definitely would have kept him, but unfortunately this is my shortest bench league so a guy you may hope to play is hard to keep.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
I'll be shocked if he plays this week. No need to rush him back. I am sure they figure they can beat the Jaguars without him.
Insein
Footballguy
Is that "I'll be shocked" or "I hope to god he doesn't." I have Hernandez and for me it's the later.
mad sweeney
Footballguy
I think it'd be silly to play him til the playoffs. Shouldn't need him for the next 2 games. I think with gronk, they would've beaten SF. Maybe not handily, but there were many situations where his physical presence against a very physical D would've really helped. Once they start playing playoff caliber teams, he's gonna be needed again.
matuski
Footballguy
If he is practicing.. are they "rushing" him back?
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
I hope they rush him back, I'm facing the Hernandez owner. 
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
The former. I have Hernandez in one championship game, and in another, I am missing Gronk from my starting lineup, so him playing could maybe help one team and maybe hurt another a little. Hard to say. But my gut tells me he won't play. They don't want Gronk having a setback this close to the playoffs.
steelcityman
Footballguy
rushing him back in regards to opponent IMO. Jack Jags? C'mon, my HS team could give them a good game. Pats should win by 20+ without Gronk, and Welker and Lloyd.
Rest him another week. Wont hurt anyone WRT the Patriots and winning games.
Rest him another week. Wont hurt anyone WRT the Patriots and winning games.
mad sweeney
Footballguy
Possibly. Lots of recovering players practice but are inactive.
steveski
Footballguy
I agree. It's a broken bone so it's either healed or not. It's not a sprain where it's more likely to hurt it again if it's not healed enough. Then again, if he is still sore, sitting him another week would make sense. They won't need him this week and they still have him Week 17 to get "warmed up" before the playoffs... Not that he needs to or anything. As a Hernandez owner, I'd like him to sit obviously but I'm not liking the odds here.
Today's practice was in shells, not pads. I wouldn't read too much into it.
fridayfrenzy
Footballguy
This.
You realize we're talking about Bill Belichick making the decision, right? This is a guy who consistently leaves his all-world QB in games where he is up by 30 points in the 4th quarter. Either the bone is healed or it isn't. But if the bone is healed, there is 0% chance that Gronk sits. If he keeps practicing this week, he's a lock to play. And unless you have someone like Gonzo, Witten or Hernandez, you have to play him. Everyone else is averaging about 5 points a week, so what are you really risking. My choice is Gronk or Gresham and if Gronk plays, he's in my lineup and its not even a tough choice. I also have Brady and Ridley, so I'm all in on the Pats against the Jags and couldn't be happier.
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
even if he played I'd be worried about limited snaps
SSOG
Moderator
If he's healed, then he should play, no matter who the opponent is. If he's not healed, he should sit, no matter who the opponent is. I don't get this "resting" or "saving" talk. If he's healthy, there's literally no reason for him not to play.
It's a broken arm. There's no reason to limit him. Either it's healed or it's not. Bones are stronger after they've been broken and healed than they were before they were broken. It's one thing if they have to limit him for conditioning reasons, although he's only missed 4 weeks and a broken arm wouldn't really prevent him from staying in game shape like a broken leg (or a hamstring or ankle injury) would. But if the bone is healed, I'd expect him to play close to a full workload.
Sure, but there's a difference between being clear to participate in light practice and being fully healed. I'd like to see him practice fully before assuming he'll play. If he's limited when they do full-contact work, that's a bad sign.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Adam Schefter reported that he expects him back in week 17 - Adam has been pretty on point this season, so I'd be prepared for a week w/o Gronk.
Also, remember Hernandez being limited in almost 2 weeks of practice a few weeks back before he was active for a game... Then remember the game he had in his first back, something like 2 for 25. It's a situation we should tread lightly in our championships with.
Also, remember Hernandez being limited in almost 2 weeks of practice a few weeks back before he was active for a game... Then remember the game he had in his first back, something like 2 for 25. It's a situation we should tread lightly in our championships with.
fridayfrenzy
Footballguy
Not sure what information Ryan O'Halloran has that others wouldn't or if this is just a guess.
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Frank Costanza's Lawyer
Footballguy
Yenrub
Footballguy
It's Lewis or Rudolph for me this week
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
A source tells CSN New England that Rob Gronkowski's latest forearm fracture was not identical to the one he suffered in Week 11.
The assumption was that Gronkowski rushed back from his original fracture too soon, leading to the second break. CSN New England's source disputes this, saying the latest injury "had nothing to do with whether the arm was ready or not." In fact, doctors discovered that the original break was intact and fully healed when they went in to perform new surgery Monday. The break Gronk sustained against the Texans was at the end of a protective plate that had been implanted in his forearm.
The assumption was that Gronkowski rushed back from his original fracture too soon, leading to the second break. CSN New England's source disputes this, saying the latest injury "had nothing to do with whether the arm was ready or not." In fact, doctors discovered that the original break was intact and fully healed when they went in to perform new surgery Monday. The break Gronk sustained against the Texans was at the end of a protective plate that had been implanted in his forearm.
I think the fact that his forearm was healing factored into the manner in which he went to the ground after that catch. I believe that if his forearm was a non-issue, a new break wouldn't have been suffered. Maybe it was a total fluke and unfortunate play, but I don't think so...
mad sweeney
Footballguy
Did the plate help cause the break?
Frank Costanza's Lawyer
Footballguy
Did you stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night?
any chance you can give a sample of what's in that blog? My work is blocking that site.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
The same thing happened to Charles Rogers when he broke his collar bone twice in the same year. Had surgery with a steel rod inserted, came back and the collar bone broke at the end of the rod. Seems like there is something to this. Watching the replay Gronk did not even fall very hard.
What about the hundreds of other times in the past few years that players have had rods/plates inserted and didn't damage anything further in that area of their body and healed just fine? It's easy to cherry pick two cases and claim a correlation. Incredibly lazy, too.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Not really. In both of these cases the players came back quite early from a broken bone. In many other broken bone cases the injury happens in mid-year and the player has surgery and does not return for the rest of the season. Then has the whole off-season for the bones to mend properly. Had the Pats not been in the playoffs and Gronk had 6 months instead of 4-5 weeks this most likely would never have happened.
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This is your opinion, and it very well may be accurate, but unless a medical expert supports that opinion, it is not (and shouldn't be stated as) fact.
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
Jene Bramel
Footballguy
Sure. I don't think there's anything troublesome on the site. I post the links so I'm able to get a look at what types of posts folks are most interested in reading.
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It didn't appear that he fell hard.My point, which was apparently lost on Frank Costanza's Lawyer, is that it looked like he didn't prepare himself for the fall as he would have if he didn't have the previous injury. In other words, he knew he was awkwardly going to the ground with his left arm extended to break his fall. I'm sure he tried to avoid a direct impact on the injured area and slightly compensated the position of his arm making things worse.
