Six years ago, Favre threw six picks against the Rams and Green Bay lost 45-17.Interestingly, Warner was the opposing QB in that game also. Maybe he has a higher power on his side, or something.I've been watching football for about 20 years and I can't remember a QB ever playing this poorly in the playoffs.
Elway was 10 of 26 for 108 yds with 0 TDs, 2Ints, and 2 fumbles in the SB vs. the Giants...that was pretty horrific if I recall, but would need to rewatch it to truly determine if it was as putrid as Jake's performance tonightI've been watching football for about 20 years and I can't remember a QB ever playing this poorly in the playoffs.
Yeah that game was probably worse than Delhomme's. I remember it seeming like the Vikes had quit sometime before the end of the 1st quarter.I don't think the Favre game was quite as bad, at least his team was a giant underdog on the road against a Super Bowl team.The Elway game wasn't as bad as the final stat line, he had made several good plays to keep Denver in that game before unraveling late. Tarkenton was a little before my time, but I'm under the impression those Pittsburgh defenses in the 70's made most QB's look terrible, where as this year's Cards D made Tarvaris Jackson look like a solid starting QB as little as a month ago.NFC Championship game... 2000 season. Giants beat the Vikings 41-0. Culpepper throws for 78 yards & 3 picks.
Jake the Snake is done!!Carolina is in the 2-3 year win now window though.
The Higher Power.Six years ago, Favre threw six picks against the Rams and Green Bay lost 45-17.Interestingly, Warner was the opposing QB in that game also. Maybe he has a higher power on his side, or something.I've been watching football for about 20 years and I can't remember a QB ever playing this poorly in the playoffs.
:droppeddelhommefrommydynastyteamearlierthisweek:I hear that the Panthers like Moore a lot. Would they go into next season with an "open competition" between Delhomme and Moore or would they bring in a vet?
I can't see them going with a rookie when the window seems to be now.\
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Someone will beat me to it, but Manning had some serious stinkers in Foxboro for years. Yeah, thanks Ty Law and Rodney Harrison! BOOOO!I've been watching football for about 20 years and I can't remember a QB ever playing this poorly in the playoffs.
Sadly, this is pretty accurate. The running game has hidden the fact that Delhomme hasn't really played like the experienced leader he is. That piece of the puzzle should be in place for Carolina, but it isn't.BusterTBronco said:He's been bad all year. Can't see him surviving this in Carolina.
Come on now, this was not the cause of the wheels falling off the wagon today.He might be done and I wouldn't want him as my #1 option next year but jeez people...he had Tommy John surgery last year.
Kerry Collins had around 100 yards, no touchdowns and four picks in the Super Bowl against the Ravens.travdogg said:I've been watching football for about 20 years and I can't remember a QB ever playing this poorly in the playoffs.
I think Smith owners have to be concerned. Delhomme's relationship with Smith is special. Not every QB (even a good one) will necessarily have that. If they bring in someone else, I don't see how that could possibly help Smith. And even if they keep Delhomme, he might have a shorter leash-- a 2-4 start in 2009 might get him pulled, for example. In dynasty, Smith is Smith and you have to put him in your lineup unless some amazing offer comes in (which I wouldn't count on). In redraft I think this adds a question mark that might cause owners to lean toward comparable receivers. Maybe he becomes "value" then but you have to accept the risk, which I think has grown just a bit. I didn't see any "rally around Jake" post-game comments from anyone. If a guy like Rivers puts up a huge dud Sunday I think the team will stick up for him. I didn't hear that from the Panthers, so maybe they see him as a weak spot and will keep their eye open in free agency.So what happens to Steve Smith's projections for the future now....Smith owners might never get a top 10 WR season now from him in the near future if they decide to go with Moore or a rookie.
LOL...that was my first thought. Brenda Warner is one of a kind.....Onions said:The Higher Power.Raider Nation said:Six years ago, Favre threw six picks against the Rams and Green Bay lost 45-17.Interestingly, Warner was the opposing QB in that game also. Maybe he has a higher power on his side, or something.travdogg said:I've been watching football for about 20 years and I can't remember a QB ever playing this poorly in the playoffs.
Morton Muffley said:Elway was 10 of 26 for 108 yds with 0 TDs, 2Ints, and 2 fumbles in the SB vs. the Giants...that was pretty horrific if I recall, but would need to rewatch it to truly determine if it was as putrid as Jake's performance tonighttravdogg said:I've been watching football for about 20 years and I can't remember a QB ever playing this poorly in the playoffs.
Yep, I can't remember a worse performance. MAN that was horrible.. and in front of your own fans!Overall he didn't look good all season. I agree that I think he's just about done, as a starter at least. I cansee them in the FA market this offseason or drafting a QB. Now whether they still try and go with Delhommenext year and bring along a rookie QB, who knows? But with recent success of Ryan and Flacco may havethem saying "Screw it!" and throwing the rookie to the wolves, for the sake of NOT having Delhomme in there...travdogg said:I've been watching football for about 20 years and I can't remember a QB ever playing this poorly in the playoffs.
I thought Moore looked decent in limited action last year? At this point I don't think he could be worse than Jake.Da Guru said:Jake the Snake is done!!
Carolina is in the 2-3 year win now window though.
Who will be the savior??
Yeah the play calling did seem pretty bad after the first quarter. But they do deserve some slack when your QB ends every possession with a pick, hard to get into an offensive rhythm. Way too many deep throws by Jake that I don't think the coaching staff intended for him to throw into double & triple coverage. No shame in checking down Jake!!Half the blame must go to the coaching staff, they gave up on the run entirely after it was 17-7 in the 1st quarter...
It would be very ironic if it were Kerry CollinsDa Guru said:Jake the Snake is done!!Carolina is in the 2-3 year win now window though.Who will be the savior??
my bad...Elway's SB game stats I posted were from the 55-10 drubbing at the hands of SF (not NYG as I originally suggested)Morton Muffley said:Elway was 10 of 26 for 108 yds with 0 TDs, 2Ints, and 2 fumbles in the SB vs. the Giants...that was pretty horrific if I recall, but would need to rewatch it to truly determine if it was as putrid as Jake's performance tonighttravdogg said:I've been watching football for about 20 years and I can't remember a QB ever playing this poorly in the playoffs.Elway had over 300 yards in that game.
Ah, ok. Thanks for the clarification.my bad...Elway's SB game stats I posted were from the 55-10 drubbing at the hands of SF (not NYG as I originally suggested)Morton Muffley said:Elway was 10 of 26 for 108 yds with 0 TDs, 2Ints, and 2 fumbles in the SB vs. the Giants...that was pretty horrific if I recall, but would need to rewatch it to truly determine if it was as putrid as Jake's performance tonighttravdogg said:I've been watching football for about 20 years and I can't remember a QB ever playing this poorly in the playoffs.Elway had over 300 yards in that game.
That is just not true, but it is futile debating it. At any rate, here is what the Panthers are saying:BusterTBronco said:He's been bad all year.
"I feel bad for Jake," said wide receiver Steve Smith, who was on the receiving end of Delhomme's only touchdown pass. "You come so close, and you look at the opportunities we could have had and the what if's."But this opportunity might not have happened at all without Delhomme's successful recovery from elbow surgery, a story that helped define a campaign that saw the Panthers post their best regular-season win total in a dozen years."Jake's won a lot of games for us this year," wide receiver Muhsin Muhammad said. "Of course, today didn't go the way he wanted it to. It didn't go the way a lot of us wanted it to."I think that he's a winner. He's a leader and he's one of us."His head coach concurred."Jake had a great year for us," John Fox said. "I told those guys to talk out of here with your head held high, just like I will. It's not where we wanted to end up, but it's reality."I think Jake is a hell of a quarterback who had a rough night."All six of the Panthers' turnovers came out of Delhomme's hands -- five interceptions and a first-quarter fumble -- and led to 23 of Arizona's points."I'm at a loss for words," Delhomme said. "For one reason or another, I didn't give us a chance tonight. It's disappointing. I don't know what else to say."I should get the blame (for the loss). It's inexcusable."But Delhomme's teammates stepped forward to accept responsibility."Really, you can point a finger at anybody you want to in any group," defensive end Julius Peppers said. "You can point it at the secondary. You can point it at the (defensive) line; you can point it at the (offensive) line, Jake, the running backs, take your pick."It's not one person or one group's fault. We've just got to play better. We just didn't play well today at all -- anybody."
Ditto, change 20 to 40 years. During which I can probably count the number of NFL playoff games that I didn't see on my 10 fingers. Brutualtravdogg said:I've been watching football for about 20 years and I can't remember a QB ever playing this poorly in the playoffs.
you may be right, but Kerry Collins' 15 of 39 for 112 yds with 0 TDs, 4 Ints SB performance against Baltimore was pretty bad...but that was a world-class defense so that needs to be taken into account. What jake did against at home against a mediocre (at best) defense was pretty bad.And those of us who have watched him all year knew he had this kind of stinker in him. he's been protected by a fantastic running game, a great WR who makes his stats look far better than his actual performance, and a coach who's conservative nature concealed many of jake's failings.Ditto, change 20 to 40 years. During which I can probably count the number of NFL playoff games that I didn't see on my 10 fingers. Brutualtravdogg said:I've been watching football for about 20 years and I can't remember a QB ever playing this poorly in the playoffs.
Hadn't seen any of this, his teammates stepping up to defend him. Maybe they're just going to stick with him after all. I thought their silence was maybe saying something, but I just missed these quotes. Thanks.That is just not true, but it is futile debating it. At any rate, here is what the Panthers are saying:BusterTBronco said:He's been bad all year."I feel bad for Jake," said wide receiver Steve Smith, who was on the receiving end of Delhomme's only touchdown pass. "You come so close, and you look at the opportunities we could have had and the what if's."But this opportunity might not have happened at all without Delhomme's successful recovery from elbow surgery, a story that helped define a campaign that saw the Panthers post their best regular-season win total in a dozen years."Jake's won a lot of games for us this year," wide receiver Muhsin Muhammad said. "Of course, today didn't go the way he wanted it to. It didn't go the way a lot of us wanted it to."I think that he's a winner. He's a leader and he's one of us."His head coach concurred."Jake had a great year for us," John Fox said. "I told those guys to talk out of here with your head held high, just like I will. It's not where we wanted to end up, but it's reality."I think Jake is a hell of a quarterback who had a rough night."All six of the Panthers' turnovers came out of Delhomme's hands -- five interceptions and a first-quarter fumble -- and led to 23 of Arizona's points."I'm at a loss for words," Delhomme said. "For one reason or another, I didn't give us a chance tonight. It's disappointing. I don't know what else to say."I should get the blame (for the loss). It's inexcusable."But Delhomme's teammates stepped forward to accept responsibility."Really, you can point a finger at anybody you want to in any group," defensive end Julius Peppers said. "You can point it at the secondary. You can point it at the (defensive) line; you can point it at the (offensive) line, Jake, the running backs, take your pick."It's not one person or one group's fault. We've just got to play better. We just didn't play well today at all -- anybody."
I cantravdogg said:I've been watching football for about 20 years and I can't remember a QB ever playing this poorly in the playoffs.
travdogg said:I've been watching football for about 20 years and I can't remember a QB ever playing this poorly in the playoffs.
I agree. You can pull out anyone's bad stats, but it only tells part of the story. Sometimes a team (and its QB) just get rolled, and the result is crappy stats. Other times, like last night, the crappy stats are the result of crappy play.travdogg said:I've been watching football for about 20 years and I can't remember a QB ever playing this poorly in the playoffs.It was about as bad as one could imagine. Statistically, there have been some similarly horrendous performances, but it has been a while since I've seen a QB make such horrendous throws and look so lost in a playoff game.
Not his teammates he has to worry about. It's the fans. IF the Panthers don't address QB in one way or another and go into next season with Delhomme as their starter the fan base will become very restless.Hadn't seen any of this, his teammates stepping up to defend him. Maybe they're just going to stick with him after all. I thought their silence was maybe saying something, but I just missed these quotes. Thanks.
Good team and good organization that's sticking together and not pointing fingers after a terrible performance.Good leader in Delhomme taking all the blame for the loss.None of that changes the fact that at 34 years old and a rebuilt throwing arm Jake may be a liability at the QB position going forward.Hadn't seen any of this, his teammates stepping up to defend him. Maybe they're just going to stick with him after all. I thought their silence was maybe saying something, but I just missed these quotes. Thanks.That is just not true, but it is futile debating it. At any rate, here is what the Panthers are saying:BusterTBronco said:He's been bad all year."I feel bad for Jake," said wide receiver Steve Smith, who was on the receiving end of Delhomme's only touchdown pass. "You come so close, and you look at the opportunities we could have had and the what if's."But this opportunity might not have happened at all without Delhomme's successful recovery from elbow surgery, a story that helped define a campaign that saw the Panthers post their best regular-season win total in a dozen years."Jake's won a lot of games for us this year," wide receiver Muhsin Muhammad said. "Of course, today didn't go the way he wanted it to. It didn't go the way a lot of us wanted it to."I think that he's a winner. He's a leader and he's one of us."His head coach concurred."Jake had a great year for us," John Fox said. "I told those guys to talk out of here with your head held high, just like I will. It's not where we wanted to end up, but it's reality."I think Jake is a hell of a quarterback who had a rough night."All six of the Panthers' turnovers came out of Delhomme's hands -- five interceptions and a first-quarter fumble -- and led to 23 of Arizona's points."I'm at a loss for words," Delhomme said. "For one reason or another, I didn't give us a chance tonight. It's disappointing. I don't know what else to say."I should get the blame (for the loss). It's inexcusable."But Delhomme's teammates stepped forward to accept responsibility."Really, you can point a finger at anybody you want to in any group," defensive end Julius Peppers said. "You can point it at the secondary. You can point it at the (defensive) line; you can point it at the (offensive) line, Jake, the running backs, take your pick."It's not one person or one group's fault. We've just got to play better. We just didn't play well today at all -- anybody."
Thank you. Forget the stats and the picks. He was horrible the whole night. His throws and decision making were horrendous. The 4th and 4 failure was obviously his fault. Moose runs a quick slant and is open and Jake sails it to a quick out. Moose's face said it all. He ran the right route, Jake just throw to the wrong route. Jake is a class guy and a veteran, but I'm surprised that no one is asking whether he was out late Friday night celebrating his birthday early or something. He just made the wrong decisions and throws all night long.travdogg said:I've been watching football for about 20 years and I can't remember a QB ever playing this poorly in the playoffs.It was about as bad as one could imagine. Statistically, there have been some similarly horrendous performances, but it has been a while since I've seen a QB make such horrendous throws and look so lost in a playoff game.
Kurt Warner is a FADa Guru said:Jake the Snake is done!!Carolina is in the 2-3 year win now window though.Who will be the savior??
I've never seen a worse performance by a player. A QB committing 6 turnovers is usually enough to lose 2 playoff games, and Delhomme did it in one game. He single-handedly destroyed any hope the Panthers had of winning the game.Yep, I can't remember a worse performance.travdogg said:I've been watching football for about 20 years and I can't remember a QB ever playing this poorly in the playoffs.
Half the blame must go to the coaching staff, they gave up on the run entirely after it was 17-7 in the 1st quarter...