Harry Douglas (1 Viewer)

[Autopsy the Clown]

Tonight - 2/87/TD ( 75yd TD )

Last week - 3/47/TD

A lot of people loving Julio Jones and Douglas was back from injury last year, having a strong preseason thus far. Ranked as the #78WR and coming in at an ADP of 270!

8/5 - Atlanta Radio Host goes off on caller re: homer/Harry Douglas = http://www.realclearsports.com/video/2011/08/05/atlanta_radio_guy_blows_up_at_caller.html

 

[gbill2004]

Falcons WR Harry Douglas caught two passes for 87 yards and a touchdown in the team's second preseason game.We're not sleeping on him anymore and are getting Douglas into the Draft Guide rankings. The slot receiver now has five catches for 134 yards and two touchdowns on the preseason, good for a 26.8 YPR average. Douglas' speed and quickness are all the way back after a disappointing 2010 season, confirmed on Friday night's 76-yard score. With Atlanta moving to more of a three-receiver offense, Douglas will be worth rostering in all leagues.

 

[LHUCKS]

Is Matt Ryan going to break the NFL record for completions in a single year?

 

[Kenny Powers]

Is Matt Ryan going to break the NFL record for completions in a single year?

Based on how Douglas has looked thus far, with the first team, Id say downgrade Julio a bit. Gonzalez as well, although he isnt considered elite anymore anyway.This isnt talking about Douglas being mid-round chance, he could be a last round saint.

 

[Truman]

Harry Douglas looked good as a rookie but suffered a knee injury in '09 and apparently was still coming back from it last year. If he's fully back I expect he will be the #3 option in the passing game ahead of Gonzalez.

 

[cr8f]

Finally gave up on him last year.

 

[gbill2004]

Could Harry have more FF value then Julio this season?

 

[Couch Potato]

Could Harry have more FF value then Julio this season?

No. Don't overreact here. Douglas has had a couple of nice preseason catches, congrats to him. But he's still just a guy with a role, and his role won't be that big. His role will be in the slot, used sporadically, probably maxing out at 40-45 catches if that. This will be the Roddy and Julio show, and Gonzo will get his. People tend to put these preseason games under a microscope and project more than they should. Don't make that mistake.

 

[mvereb]

With michael turner still in the fold, there's no way ryan even gets close to peyton's 2010 completion total.

As for douglas, i think he scores more points than julio this year.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Why are people saying Gonzo isnt elite? He had a damn good season last year iirc and with the addition of Jones on the outside wuth Roddy, there should be room to work for Gonzo in the middle. I expect a very good year.

 

[DoubleG]

Why are people saying Gonzo isnt elite? He had a damn good season last year iirc and with the addition of Jones on the outside wuth Roddy, there should be room to work for Gonzo in the middle. I expect a very good year.

For starters, because he wasn't last year...before they added Julio. He is now another year older (35) and is coming off his lowest yards receiving and reception numbers in almost 10 years. Last year he didn't crack the top 5 in FF TEs - and that was a year that saw Gates only play in 10 games, Finley was out for the year and Clark missed significant time. Gonzo will barely be a startable TE this season - let alone elite. He will likely finish around TE 10-12, and that's assuming his stats mirror last year. The fact is, while it sounds nice to say that White and Julio will open things up, part of the reason they will, is that they are bigger threats in the passing game. The point being, Ryan will be trying to get them the ball more. Yes, Gonzo will be a nice check down option - but he's not the first option in the passing - and now, he may not even be the 2nd. He's a little slower, thus easier for LBs to cover.

I see Gonzo on the decline again this year. Maybe even lesser numbers, as I see his targets dropping a little. I wouldn't be shocked to see Gonzo at about 50/550/6 at season't end - as I said, barely startable.

 

[PatsFanCT]

Could Harry have more FF value then Julio this season?

No. Don't overreact here. Douglas has had a couple of nice preseason catches, congrats to him. But he's still just a guy with a role, and his role won't be that big. His role will be in the slot, used sporadically, probably maxing out at 40-45 catches if that. This will be the Roddy and Julio show, and Gonzo will get his. People tend to put these preseason games under a microscope and project more than they should. Don't make that mistake.

People also overreact on rookies and make the mistake of projecting them to do better than they should.

 

[LHUCKS]

Is Matt Ryan going to break the NFL record for completions in a single year?

Based on how Douglas has looked thus far, with the first team, Id say downgrade Julio a bit. Gonzalez as well, although he isnt considered elite anymore anyway.This isnt talking about Douglas being mid-round chance, he could be a last round saint.

well, based on the title of this thread...the implication is that this guy is going to be a fantasy starter.Late round flier...needs an injury to be of note.Move along.

 

[todisco1]

I have a hard time believing he'll get enough catches to warrant any real consideration. If someone goes down, sure, but I doubt he's more than a 30-40 catch guy.

 

[Dismattle]

Hey guys just an fyi H Douglass made a recent FBG podcast (so plz listen to it)

heres my take In some respects Julio doesnt change the fact that the defense is still accounting for a WR. But if you truly believe Julio is all that, its possible that defenses will game-plan accordingly and Matty Ice will be left to take what is given (at times) So yeah Gonzo may have a mismatch, but theres a chance Harry could have a gimme.

p.s. I have to say Im rankin M Ryan, a bit higher thn most

 

[wiscstlatlmia]

Tonight - 2/87/TD ( 75yd TD )

Last week - 3/47/TD

A lot of people loving Julio Jones and Douglas was back from injury last year, having a strong preseason thus far. Ranked as the #78WR and coming in at an ADP of 270!

8/5 - Atlanta Radio Host goes off on caller re: homer/Harry Douglas = http://www.realclearsports.com/video/2011/08/05/atlanta_radio_guy_blows_up_at_caller.html

My thoughts = NO! lol ...no way hes worth anything unless theres a big injury to Jones or White

 

[Autopsy the Clown]

Is Matt Ryan going to break the NFL record for completions in a single year?

Based on how Douglas has looked thus far, with the first team, Id say downgrade Julio a bit. Gonzalez as well, although he isnt considered elite anymore anyway.This isnt talking about Douglas being mid-round chance, he could be a last round saint.

well, based on the title of this thread...the implication is that this guy is going to be a fantasy starter.Late round flier...needs an injury to be of note.Move along.

My intention wasn't to imply that he is going to be a fantasy starter. It's just someone who's name I haven't seen at all & he is having a strong preseason thus far. Based off of his ADP he is definitely worth a late rd pick in deeper leagues & has a excellent chance to outperform his ADP.

 

[McBokonon]

"Hey baby. Wanna see my Harry Douglas?"

 

[Raider Nation]

W1 - 2/10/0

W2 - 2/19/0

So, he's getting better every week.

If he could only manage 19 yards with the two stud CBs covering the outside WRs, there is no hope. Not to mention ATL was trailing the whole game.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Off season, pre season, regular season...

 

[Detroit Revival]

W1 - 2/10/0W2 - 2/19/0So, he's getting better every week. If he could only manage 19 yards with the two stud CBs covering the outside WRs, there is no hope. Not to mention ATL was trailing the whole game.

Also, 88 is obviously the safety blanket for Ryan instead of Douglas. Sad but true.

 

[Kenny Powers]

W1 - 2/10/0W2 - 2/19/0So, he's getting better every week. If he could only manage 19 yards with the two stud CBs covering the outside WRs, there is no hope. Not to mention ATL was trailing the whole game.

DRC is pretty close to a stud, no?Either way, liked Douglas as a last round flier. Now, with guys like Nelson, McCluster, DMoore, Decker popping up, I sure as #### am not waiting on Douglas to show me something.

 

[CalBear]

Also, 88 is obviously the safety blanket for Ryan instead of Douglas. Sad but true.

Not sad at all; Ryan is privileged to be able to throw to the best player ever at his position. There's no reason to use a mediocre never-was receiver as a safety blanket.

 

[Detroit Revival]

Also, 88 is obviously the safety blanket for Ryan instead of Douglas. Sad but true.

Not sad at all; Ryan is privileged to be able to throw to the best player ever at his position. There's no reason to use a mediocre never-was receiver as a safety blanket.

I guess I wasn't clear. It's sad for those who would have Douglas assume the role. As long as Gonzales is around Douglas will not be that guy.

 

[ScottyDog]

Hey I thought I would bump this as Julio Jones has already been ruled out for Sunday and you would think it will be a shoot out vs. a poor Carolina pass defense. I think Harry will make a nice bye week fill in.

 

[DocHolliday]

Hey I thought I would bump this as Julio Jones has already been ruled out for Sunday and you would think it will be a shoot out vs. a poor Carolina pass defense. I think Harry will make a nice bye week fill in.

Makes sense. Douglas is a solid WR. He should get a bump in targets.

 

[CalBear]

Hey I thought I would bump this as Julio Jones has already been ruled out for Sunday and you would think it will be a shoot out vs. a poor Carolina pass defense. I think Harry will make a nice bye week fill in.

Makes sense. Douglas is a solid WR. He should get a bump in targets.

Wasn't this supposed to be the story last year? This is the guy's third year on the team and he only has 56 receptions and 2 TDs. You'd have to be pretty desperate to start a guy with 11 receptions for 80 yards in 5 games this year.

 

[Kenny Powers]

Hey I thought I would bump this as Julio Jones has already been ruled out for Sunday and you would think it will be a shoot out vs. a poor Carolina pass defense. I think Harry will make a nice bye week fill in.

Makes sense. Douglas is a solid WR. He should get a bump in targets.

Wasn't this supposed to be the story last year? This is the guy's third year on the team and he only has 56 receptions and 2 TDs. You'd have to be pretty desperate to start a guy with 11 receptions for 80 yards in 5 games this year.

Last year he was coming off a season ending ACL tear from his rookie year. Plus he was 3rd on the depth chart behind Michael Jenkins still. If Julio is out, he's the clear #2

 

[ScottyDog]

Who else is Matt Ryan going to throw to? Roddy and Gonzalez can't get all the targets.

 

[CalBear]

Hey I thought I would bump this as Julio Jones has already been ruled out for Sunday and you would think it will be a shoot out vs. a poor Carolina pass defense. I think Harry will make a nice bye week fill in.

Makes sense. Douglas is a solid WR. He should get a bump in targets.

Wasn't this supposed to be the story last year? This is the guy's third year on the team and he only has 56 receptions and 2 TDs. You'd have to be pretty desperate to start a guy with 11 receptions for 80 yards in 5 games this year.

Last year he was coming off a season ending ACL tear from his rookie year. Plus he was 3rd on the depth chart behind Michael Jenkins still. If Julio is out, he's the clear #2

Michael Jenkins got hurt in the pre-season and missed the first five games. Harry Douglas didn't manage more than 3 receptions or more than 60 yards in any of those first five games.

 

[DoubleG]

Also, 88 is obviously the safety blanket for Ryan instead of Douglas. Sad but true.

Not sad at all; Ryan is privileged to be able to throw to the best player ever at his position. There's no reason to use a mediocre never-was receiver as a safety blanket.

Wait...when did the Chargers trade Gates to the Falcons?????

 

[Kenny Powers]

Hey I thought I would bump this as Julio Jones has already been ruled out for Sunday and you would think it will be a shoot out vs. a poor Carolina pass defense. I think Harry will make a nice bye week fill in.

Makes sense. Douglas is a solid WR. He should get a bump in targets.

Wasn't this supposed to be the story last year? This is the guy's third year on the team and he only has 56 receptions and 2 TDs. You'd have to be pretty desperate to start a guy with 11 receptions for 80 yards in 5 games this year.

Last year he was coming off a season ending ACL tear from his rookie year. Plus he was 3rd on the depth chart behind Michael Jenkins still. If Julio is out, he's the clear #2

Michael Jenkins got hurt in the pre-season and missed the first five games. Harry Douglas didn't manage more than 3 receptions or more than 60 yards in any of those first five games.

...in his first 5 games back from tearing his ACL

 

[CalBear]

Michael Jenkins got hurt in the pre-season and missed the first five games. Harry Douglas didn't manage more than 3 receptions or more than 60 yards in any of those first five games.

...in his first 5 games back from tearing his ACL

Wes Welker had 33 receptions in his first 5 games back from tearing his ACL 9 months earlier. That's more receptions than Douglas has had in a season. What makes you think that Douglas is an NFL-caliber receiver? He's never had a 100-yard game, hasn't had more than 1 TD reception in a season, and is averaging just 7.3 yards per reception this year. He's at best the third receiving option on the team even with Jones out; and Jones, a better receiver, hadn't scored a TD this season either.

 

[Kenny Powers]

Michael Jenkins got hurt in the pre-season and missed the first five games. Harry Douglas didn't manage more than 3 receptions or more than 60 yards in any of those first five games.

...in his first 5 games back from tearing his ACL

Wes Welker had 33 receptions in his first 5 games back from tearing his ACL 9 months earlier. That's more receptions than Douglas has had in a season. What makes you think that Douglas is an NFL-caliber receiver? He's never had a 100-yard game, hasn't had more than 1 TD reception in a season, and is averaging just 7.3 yards per reception this year. He's at best the third receiving option on the team even with Jones out; and Jones, a better receiver, hadn't scored a TD this season either.

I think he's an NFL caliber WR because he's the #3 WR on 1 of the better passing offenses in the league. Its a bad comparison outside of the injury, but if you dont think Douglas is even a NFL caliber WR, why are you comparing him to a player like Welker, who is a pro-bowl PPR machine being thrown to by arguably the best QB in the league?

 

[CalBear]

I think he's an NFL caliber WR because he's the #3 WR on 1 of the better passing offenses in the league. Its a bad comparison outside of the injury, but if you dont think Douglas is even a NFL caliber WR, why are you comparing him to a player like Welker, who is a pro-bowl PPR machine being thrown to by arguably the best QB in the league?

Douglas tore his ACL in the 2009 pre-season. He had 13 months to rehab it, four months more than Welker, and fell into a starting gig in what you are calling "1 of the better passing offenses in the league". And he stunk up the place, accomplishing nothing from a fantasy perspective.

 

[bonesman]

Michael Jenkins got hurt in the pre-season and missed the first five games. Harry Douglas didn't manage more than 3 receptions or more than 60 yards in any of those first five games.

...in his first 5 games back from tearing his ACL

Wes Welker had 33 receptions in his first 5 games back from tearing his ACL 9 months earlier. That's more receptions than Douglas has had in a season. What makes you think that Douglas is an NFL-caliber receiver? He's never had a 100-yard game, hasn't had more than 1 TD reception in a season, and is averaging just 7.3 yards per reception this year. He's at best the third receiving option on the team even with Jones out; and Jones, a better receiver, hadn't scored a TD this season either.

I share your pessimism. I traded Ringer to get him before the season started in a deep league and have already cut bait.

 

[DocHolliday]

Hey I thought I would bump this as Julio Jones has already been ruled out for Sunday and you would think it will be a shoot out vs. a poor Carolina pass defense. I think Harry will make a nice bye week fill in.

Makes sense. Douglas is a solid WR. He should get a bump in targets.

Wasn't this supposed to be the story last year? This is the guy's third year on the team and he only has 56 receptions and 2 TDs. You'd have to be pretty desperate to start a guy with 11 receptions for 80 yards in 5 games this year.

Last year he was coming off a season ending ACL tear from his rookie year. Plus he was 3rd on the depth chart behind Michael Jenkins still. If Julio is out, he's the clear #2

Michael Jenkins got hurt in the pre-season and missed the first five games. Harry Douglas didn't manage more than 3 receptions or more than 60 yards in any of those first five games.

...in his first 5 games back from tearing his ACL

I believe this thread is based on Douglas being worth a grab for this week as a bye week filler. Douglas is still on the WW in both my leagues. I thought about taking a chance on him over the Bills slot WR. I cannot even remember his name. Or, I may grab Douglas to play over the famous D Moore. This is a tough bye week and there are a lot of options that have some potential.

 

[Kenny Powers]

I think he's an NFL caliber WR because he's the #3 WR on 1 of the better passing offenses in the league. Its a bad comparison outside of the injury, but if you dont think Douglas is even a NFL caliber WR, why are you comparing him to a player like Welker, who is a pro-bowl PPR machine being thrown to by arguably the best QB in the league?

Douglas tore his ACL in the 2009 pre-season. He had 13 months to rehab it, four months more than Welker, and fell into a starting gig in what you are calling "1 of the better passing offenses in the league". And he stunk up the place, accomplishing nothing from a fantasy perspective.

Those were still his first games back from tearing his ACL (and has anyone ever come back as quick as Welker? I dont think so). And again, you are comparing the current #1 FF WR to Harry funkin' Douglas. Youre talking apples and oranges here.Im not saying to consider Douglas as a pickup for the rest of the year, Im saying I think he's a viable bye week flex fill in while Julio is out. And I just looked at his numbers from last year, first 5 weeks where he was #2 vs the last 11 weeks of the season (first number is first 5 wks vs 2nd number being the last 11 weeks when he wasnt starting):Targets: 5.2 per game vs 2.45 per gameCatches: 2.2 per game vs 1.09 per game (a 4 catch game makes the last 11 weeks much higher)Yards: 29.4 per game vs 13.5 per gameSo clearly he was more effective when he was the #2WR in ATL and those were his 1st games back from the ACL tear when he likely wasnt 100%. Those numbers still dont look great, but Douglas is good after the catch and has a great matchup this week so he's a decent option if youre desperate