So you are saying he should have been rostered - just that your draft was too earlyBecause that means he wasn't grabbed off the ww? I picked him up game day and started him.I think the fact that somebody had Morris ranked 15th for week 1 pretty much states he's not in this discussion
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Has the Waiver Wire Darling for 2012 Been Found Yet? (1 Viewer)
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Dr. Awesome
Footballguy
Yes, based off his production he should have been rostered. Same with Cecil Shorts. And Danario Alexander. And others. Glad we're on the same page.So you are saying he should have been rostered - just that your draft was too earlyBecause that means he wasn't grabbed off the ww? I picked him up game day and started him.I think the fact that somebody had Morris ranked 15th for week 1 pretty much states he's not in this discussion
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Pretty much.I think the fact that somebody had Morris ranked 15th for week 1 pretty much states he's not in this discussion
Really? You have this thing for semantics huh? Or did you seriously enter this thread thinking "2012" was referring January 1, 2012-present as opposed to the 2012 fantasy football season? Also, unless you fully understand what your citing, please don't post it. The link is CLEARLY average draft position. Maybe if you take a minute to read it instead of writing lol smiley face all over the place you woulda caught that. Smh.Topic title says "2012", Mr. Focus.170 was Morris' FBG ranking on September 2nd, not his ADP. The ranking is not an average of previous drafts.
Ahhhh. Maybe that explains why half of the people on FBG forums are so high strung on saying Alfred Morris came outta nowhere. Makes sense now.
Joe Summer
Footballguy
You're the only one making that distinction here. Therefore you are the one with the semantics obsession.Really? You have this thing for semantics huh? Or did you seriously enter this thread thinking "2012" was referring January 1, 2012-present as opposed to the 2012 fantasy football season?Topic title says "2012", Mr. Focus.170 was Morris' FBG ranking on September 2nd, not his ADP. The ranking is not an average of previous drafts.
That link was sorted by "FBG Expert Consensus Rankings", not ADP. Next time try reading the fine print and not just the web page title; it'll save you from making a fool of yourself. 
Beerguzzler
Footballguy
DX pretty much just killed this thread. He likely won quite a few people playoff games and is showin no signs of letting up. Sure wish I believed in his knees and would have picked him up. I had the unlucky fortune of having him on my team last year and getting soured on him and his chronic knees.
Sucked for me, good for my bolts.
Sucked for me, good for my bolts.
skinsrule05
Footballguy
I don't get why people are so fired up about this. Does your league award points if you have the FBG WW darling?
It is pretty obvious the intention of the thread was to discuss who came out of nowhere this year and had the biggest impact. It has already been said that Morris was either drafted or picked up prior to the start of the season. So he doesn't really fit the intention of the thread. Trying to argue the rules so your guy can fit in just seems overly petty. Start a new thread, set the criteria how you want it and maybe you can win that one.
It is pretty obvious the intention of the thread was to discuss who came out of nowhere this year and had the biggest impact. It has already been said that Morris was either drafted or picked up prior to the start of the season. So he doesn't really fit the intention of the thread. Trying to argue the rules so your guy can fit in just seems overly petty. Start a new thread, set the criteria how you want it and maybe you can win that one.
I'm convinced you're a bit slow. Title of table = "Average Draft Position". Clickable button next to the table = "View ADP". FBG has him "ranked" 170 in whatever criteria they're using, but his Consensus ADP is said to be 169 (which is virtually the same).In summary, I'm utterly confused on what your argument is. Am I missing something here?You're the only one making that distinction here. Therefore you are the one with the semantics obsession.Really? You have this thing for semantics huh? Or did you seriously enter this thread thinking "2012" was referring January 1, 2012-present as opposed to the 2012 fantasy football season?Topic title says "2012", Mr. Focus.170 was Morris' FBG ranking on September 2nd, not his ADP. The ranking is not an average of previous drafts.
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Joe Summer
Footballguy
Yes. Rankings <> ADP
Alright. Done arguing with a troll who refuses to read his own link. Congrats on discovering Alfred Morris out of fantasy no-man's land.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
I love this thread. It's like TSP version of the FFA "Birthers" post. You figure logically it should die, but every day it mines gold. It's the gift that keeps on giving.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
I still have not seen Alfred's ADP certificate
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
If he truly wasn't a WW darling, why wouldn't he just release it? Why let the doubts and murmoring linger for months? What is he hiding?The answer is pretty obvious to anyone seeking truth.'Leroy Hoard said:
Very lame effort at humor.If you don't like the thread or think it should die, don't click on it! Problem solved.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
And miss seeing you get torked over the same thing everyday? Not a chance.
...you just keep clicking. For the record, I've probably posted about 6-7 times in this thread. A majority of those posts are me trying to explain to this Joe guy that HIS link shows ADP (he clearly doesn't get it). Definitely a waste of time, but hey, I have nothing else to do at the moment (and I'm guessing you don't either, since you're visiting a thread just for kicks).
Dark Matter
Footballguy
'Leroy Hoard said:
LawFitz
Footballguy
The arguing inside this thread is so LAME!!!
Why can't you guys just rank this list with some very simple asterisks?...
1. Cobb*
2. Morris*
3. Alexander
4. Moreno
5. Shorts
6. J. Gordon*
7. Brown
8. TY Hilton
9. D. Wilson*
*if undrafted
See how simple that is. Arguing about who should or shouldn't have been drafted in "competitive" leagues is pointless and lacking context. We all have different rules in terms of when we draft, what rules are in place in between drafting and week 1, how DEEP our benches are, etc. Making a broad stroke about a league's competitiveness in relation to the drafting of Morris or even Cobb, is complete crap. Get over yourselves.
Why can't you guys just rank this list with some very simple asterisks?...
1. Cobb*
2. Morris*
3. Alexander
4. Moreno
5. Shorts
6. J. Gordon*
7. Brown
8. TY Hilton
9. D. Wilson*
*if undrafted
See how simple that is. Arguing about who should or shouldn't have been drafted in "competitive" leagues is pointless and lacking context. We all have different rules in terms of when we draft, what rules are in place in between drafting and week 1, how DEEP our benches are, etc. Making a broad stroke about a league's competitiveness in relation to the drafting of Morris or even Cobb, is complete crap. Get over yourselves.
Todd Andrews
Footballguy
Rhymes with Whoriss.
I'm with nb009. This is painful. 169 <> 170 but for these purposes it is pretty freaking close. A yahoo sports guy had him ranked #15 before week one and he was rapidly climbing up ADPs by Sept 2nd (only ESPN holding him back on the consensus with their 207 ADP). He probably went in the 13th round of non-competitive leagues. I saw him go around the 10th-12th in most of my leagues and they're not all the most competitive. People arguing for Morris clearly have their panties in a wad because some people have rudely said things implying that any league with a composition of less than 50% women and children saw Morris drafted. That was not nice and I apologize for my fellow brethren in competitive leagues. Let's just move on and accept that IF Morris was eligible he'd run away with this race, but he's not for the vast majority of us.
So my vote goes to Danario Alexander. Randall Cobb has put up great numbers, but it would be hard to start him with confidence in an offense that spreads the ball around so much and has had intermittent threats of Jordy and/or Jennings stealing a bunch of targets. Danario seems to pretty clearly be the #1 target, seeing an average of 10 targets a game for the past month. I'd rather be starting him in week 15 and 16 than Cobb.
Disclaimer: I have neither Cobb nor Alexander in most of my leagues.
donkshow
Footballguy
However I'd swap Shorts and Moreno. Though I guess you can make the argument that Moreno is helping more in the playoffs while Shorts is hurt.Revise my list due to Shorts injured and Brown getting alot of his owners booted and moved up Alexander as he helped alot of owners get in and win round first round (me included) . Added Morris and Cobb. Morris was drafted in every league I was in or know but I get it.
1. Alexander
2. Brown
3. Cobb
4. Moreno
5. Shorts
6. Morris
Since Mcfadden is back I removed Reece. If Shorts is out again this week then he is also off this list .
1. Alexander
2. Brown
3. Cobb
4. Moreno
5. Shorts
6. Morris
Since Mcfadden is back I removed Reece. If Shorts is out again this week then he is also off this list .
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wiscstlatlmia
Footballguy
'donkshow said:
/threadPersonally... I did 5 redraft leagues this year and Morris was drafted in all of them... including 2 8 man local leagues with a bunch of regular dudes. This was 2 weeks before the season started, so maybe that affects things.Either way that list defines it perfectly. If Morris was on your waiver wire he was the choice. If he wasn't it's between Cobb and Danario. It's been fascinating to read and follow all these arguments that have popped up in the SP the past few weeks. A LOT of people miserable and angry arguing over nothing. My guess: suppressed anger over losing in the playoffs or not making it in the first place.
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Todd Andrews
Footballguy
MCguidance
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Bobby Guano
Footballguy
I say its Adrian Peterson he was on the wire in my leagues....nobody drafted him because they were scared of his injury.
Seriously though who could let this dumbness die.
Safe to eliminate Brice Brown yet?
Its CS3 VS DA the rest of the season IMO. Coincidentally I've got CS3 and am playing DA this weekend...I hope Shorts plays big!
Seriously though who could let this dumbness die.
Safe to eliminate Brice Brown yet?
Its CS3 VS DA the rest of the season IMO. Coincidentally I've got CS3 and am playing DA this weekend...I hope Shorts plays big!
Joe Summer
Footballguy
Kaepernick too, maybe even more so because Wilson was drafted in a lot of leagues but Kaepernick didn't start until Week 8.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
I was in nine games yesterday and no one started either Wilson or Kapernick. Really great pickups, but I doubt they were started very much.Cecil Shorts wins in a walk (except for Yahoo!/office leagues).'Joe Summer said:
