You disagree with most of us?Morris wasn't drafted in your league - so he is the ww darling of 2012 - in your league. For most of us, he was drafted - so we are looking deeper.
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Has the Waiver Wire Darling for 2012 Been Found Yet? (1 Viewer)
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flapgreen
Footballguy
drfeelgood
Footballguy
I don't believe he was drafted in most leagues.
bleachercreacher
Footballguy
If Moreno keeps getting 20 touches a game in that offense he is a great addition.
Then he is the darling in those leagues - but most of us are discussing somebody else
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PinkydaPimp
Footballguy
Otis
Footballguy
What makes this so insane is he just joined the team the week before, and wasn't even playing pro football before that.
Dark Matter
Footballguy
Surely there is some data for drafting percentage/player. Morris was drafted in far too many leagues to be considered a ww darling. Alexander has single handedly turned my (and many other) season around and it was concurrent with Percy Harvin going down. That is the definition of what this thread is about. IMO
The Kerminator
Footballguy
Today's performance by Brown likely cost many a playoff game. Moves him down the list.
Agreed. I think it's still between Shorts, DX, and Brown, but Brown and Shorts' no-shows this week move them below Alexander.
At least you knew Shorts was out and could plan for someone else, you would have been better off if Brown didn't suit up
Sea Duck
Footballguy
Where do you draw the line? Morris was drafted in about 35% of MFL drafts. You think that's too many to be considered a waiver wire darling??Also, your Alexander/Harvin correlation makes no sense at all, since they don't play on the same team, and Alexander was activated for Week 8 and Harvin did not get injured until Week 9. Read through the Alexander thread and you'll see that people started picking him up early in the season.And besides that, the definition of a "Waiver Wire Darling" has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with replacing an injured player. It's all about improving your team, regardless of injuries.People who look to the WW only to replace injured players = guppies.
Dark Matter
Footballguy
It was the timing good buddy. I picked up DX because of the thread and it just so happened to coincide with the Harvin injury. To me, he's been
Seriously, only guppies use the ww to replace injured players? Why don't you re think that and get back to us 
Sea Duck
Footballguy
It was the timing good buddy. I picked up DX because of the thread and it just so happened to coincide with the Harvin injury. To me, he's been
Dark Matter
Footballguy
Well that settles it then.It was the timing good buddy. I picked up DX because of the thread and it just so happened to coincide with the Harvin injury. To me, he's been
Morris HAS to be the ww darling cuz he wasn't drafted in MY league and MY league RULES!!! 
Dr. Awesome
Footballguy
Or you could say Morris HAS to be the ww darling because he's been a top 10 rb this year despite being drafted in about 1 out of every 3 leagues. And that's just going from MFL, which is generally considered to be full of more sharkish owners than ESPN/yahoo. Heck, nevermind the fact many drafts were held weeks before the season started and Morris was named starter the day of their first game. But since everyone in here is apparently a shark who had the foresight to draft Morris (though real sharks also drafted Danario, Shorts, etc.), he clearly can't be the ww pickup of the year. They start naming guys like Danario and Bryce Brown. Because a guy who comes to life after more than half the season was played is apparently somehow more valuable than a guy who was able to help your team from week 1 thanks to their ability to replace your injured guys or something.Well that settles it then.It was the timing good buddy. I picked up DX because of the thread and it just so happened to coincide with the Harvin injury. To me, he's been
Lots of unbelievably moronic mental gymnastics taking place in this thread in an attempt to avoid naming the obvious ww darling of the year. Just because it's an easy call doesn't mean it's the wrong call. Morris was on most people's waiver wires. If yours is some super special shark league and you drafted the guy before the Redskins knew he existed, good for you. Doesn't change the fact he's the ww darling of the year.
Denario Alexander just pulled into the lead. Morris is not eligible, Cecil is out, Brown layed a goose egg today. Denario has been WR3 over the last 5 weeks and he likely helped win a lot of fantasy playoff games yesterday. That is a requirement imo that the waiver wire darling contribute in winning a lot of people championships. I am sorry but Cecil and Brown did not do that yesterday.
Disc Shark
Footballguy
Correct. It's Morris.Or you could say Morris HAS to be the ww darling because he's been a top 10 rb this year despite being drafted in about 1 out of every 3 leagues. And that's just going from MFL, which is generally considered to be full of more sharkish owners than ESPN/yahoo. Heck, nevermind the fact many drafts were held weeks before the season started and Morris was named starter the day of their first game. But since everyone in here is apparently a shark who had the foresight to draft Morris (though real sharks also drafted Danario, Shorts, etc.), he clearly can't be the ww pickup of the year. They start naming guys like Danario and Bryce Brown. Because a guy who comes to life after more than half the season was played is apparently somehow more valuable than a guy who was able to help your team from week 1 thanks to their ability to replace your injured guys or something.Well that settles it then.It was the timing good buddy. I picked up DX because of the thread and it just so happened to coincide with the Harvin injury. To me, he's been
Lots of unbelievably moronic mental gymnastics taking place in this thread in an attempt to avoid naming the obvious ww darling of the year. Just because it's an easy call doesn't mean it's the wrong call. Morris was on most people's waiver wires. If yours is some super special shark league and you drafted the guy before the Redskins knew he existed, good for you. Doesn't change the fact he's the ww darling of the year.
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Todd Andrews
Footballguy
It is Morris.
Still Shorts for me, especially if he plays (well) next week. Alexander is close now for sure though, could end up being him. Shorts we knew was out so no one started him - Brown everyone probably started and he whiffed, so he's had 2 great games, one awful, I doubt he has a shot now. Morris was drafted in my 3 redraft leagues so I won't count him (for me), but if he wasn't in other's leagues I think he should be the favorite because he's been consistent all year.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Morris was rostered by the end of August in the ten of my leagues where I bothered to look, so it's down to Shorts and Alexander for me. With the next two weeks deciding it.
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PinkydaPimp
Footballguy
If you play in a league with short benchs, Pierre Garcon is proving like a nice addition. The guy saved me when D. Moore fell off as my WR 3.
DX is the clear winner of this year's title.
Garcon would be worth consideration if he wasn't drafted and likely tucked away on someone's bench for most of the season.
Morris was drafted in most leagues that had drafts 2 weeks prior to the season. So was Cobb.
Shorts could have given him a run had he not gotten himself injured.
DX is your winner.
Garcon would be worth consideration if he wasn't drafted and likely tucked away on someone's bench for most of the season.
Morris was drafted in most leagues that had drafts 2 weeks prior to the season. So was Cobb.
Shorts could have given him a run had he not gotten himself injured.
DX is your winner.
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Dark Matter
Footballguy
I personally think that being drafted in that many leagues should excuse Morris from consideration. I get the love for him, wish I had drafted him. My argument for DX is that he was out of football. Not only is he the fantasy ww darling, I'd venture so much as to say he is real NFL football in season free agent darling as well.Or you could say Morris HAS to be the ww darling because he's been a top 10 rb this year despite being drafted in about 1 out of every 3 leagues. And that's just going from MFL, which is generally considered to be full of more sharkish owners than ESPN/yahoo. Heck, nevermind the fact many drafts were held weeks before the season started and Morris was named starter the day of their first game. But since everyone in here is apparently a shark who had the foresight to draft Morris (though real sharks also drafted Danario, Shorts, etc.), he clearly can't be the ww pickup of the year. They start naming guys like Danario and Bryce Brown. Because a guy who comes to life after more than half the season was played is apparently somehow more valuable than a guy who was able to help your team from week 1 thanks to their ability to replace your injured guys or something.Well that settles it then.It was the timing good buddy. I picked up DX because of the thread and it just so happened to coincide with the Harvin injury. To me, he's been
Lots of unbelievably moronic mental gymnastics taking place in this thread in an attempt to avoid naming the obvious ww darling of the year. Just because it's an easy call doesn't mean it's the wrong call. Morris was on most people's waiver wires. If yours is some super special shark league and you drafted the guy before the Redskins knew he existed, good for you. Doesn't change the fact he's the ww darling of the year.
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Joe Summer
Footballguy
There are several flaws with this premise:1. the link to the ADP chart is dead, but if he's using the FFToolbox chart then it includes drafts conducted in September (much later than most leagues). That artificially skews Morris' ADP. (Note that Morris did not jump into the Footballguys top-200 until September 2nd, and even then he was only 170th).
2. he assumes that the majority of competitive leagues allow waiver-wire pickups BEFORE Week 1.
3. a simple check at MyFantasyLeague proves that Morris was not on the vast majority of rosters prior to Week 1.
And beyond that, it's just dumb to claim that a pre-season waiver-wire pickup doesn't count as a waiver-wire move! OF COURSE IT DOES!!
1. Thanks for the link. 170 ADP prior to the season is pretty darn high if you ask me, considering the amount of drafts in July and early-August that were done when Morris was a complete unknown. 2. This is my assumption as well. Any league that doesn't is clearly in the minority. Not really sure how that could be argued, but whatever. And if there are in fact competitive leagues that don't allow pre-season pickups, surely they're drafting very close to the start of the regular season (when Morris would have already been on the radar), as opposed to July or early-August. Anything could happen (such as your only QB going down in the preseason - you mean to tell me that there are many leagues out there that you would be forced to take a zero at the QB slot for Week 1?).'Joe Summer said:
3. Dude, the point of the thread is waiver wire pick ups during the fantasy football season, not during the (fantasy football irrelevant) pre-season. Focus on the scope of the topic and stop trying to introduce new semantics into the equation.
skinsrule05
Footballguy
I completely disagree. I haven't seen a league where he wasn't drafted.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
'kegger said:
Wasn't drafted in even one of my leagues.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
In my defense, I just couldn't draft a RB named Alfred.
Warrior
Footballguy
Wasn't un-drafted in even one of my 6 leagues. Competitive leagues are much more fun.'kegger said:
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BobbyLayne
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BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Undrafted in my 16 year, 12x15 $$ league. Mostly Eagles, Giants & Redskins fans. We drafted on Sunday, August 26 - the day after AlMo went 14-107. Didn't mean much as Helu was the guy getting drafted first in PPR at the time. Lot of folks figured Royster was the bet. Go back and read the Morris thread preseason. Just a guy, just 1 of 3 who were just guy. Anybody's guess. The fact you might play in deeper leagues means nothing. AlMo was named the starter at 9 a.m. on week 1 Game Day 2 weeks later. At the time Helu had higher ownership and higher starting percentages. Morris was just a guy on the WW.Wasn't un-drafted in even one of my 6 leagues. Competitive leagues are much more fun.'kegger said:
kegger
Footballguy
Undrafted in my 16 year, 12x15 $$ league. Mostly Eagles, Giants & Redskins fans. We drafted on Sunday, August 26 - the day after AlMo went 14-107. Didn't mean much as Helu was the guy getting drafted first in PPR at the time. Lot of folks figured Royster was the bet. Go back and read the Morris thread preseason. Just a guy, just 1 of 3 who were just guy. Anybody's guess. The fact you might play in deeper leagues means nothing. AlMo was named the starter at 9 a.m. on week 1 Game Day 2 weeks later. At the time Helu had higher ownership and higher starting percentages. Morris was just a guy on the WW.Wasn't un-drafted in even one of my 6 leagues. Competitive leagues are much more fun.'kegger said:
Joe Summer
Footballguy
Topic title says "2012", Mr. Focus.
170 was Morris' FBG ranking on September 2nd, not his ADP. The ranking is not an average of previous drafts.
What were you just saying about trying to focus? Might want to take your own advice pal. 
Joe Summer
Footballguy
Sudoku_in_the_Bathtub
Footballguy
PinkydaPimp
Footballguy
Undrafted in my 16 year, 12x15 $$ league. Mostly Eagles, Giants & Redskins fans. We drafted on Sunday, August 26 - the day after AlMo went 14-107. Didn't mean much as Helu was the guy getting drafted first in PPR at the time. Lot of folks figured Royster was the bet. Go back and read the Morris thread preseason. Just a guy, just 1 of 3 who were just guy. Anybody's guess. The fact you might play in deeper leagues means nothing. AlMo was named the starter at 9 a.m. on week 1 Game Day 2 weeks later. At the time Helu had higher ownership and higher starting percentages. Morris was just a guy on the WW.Wasn't un-drafted in even one of my 6 leagues. Competitive leagues are much more fun.'kegger said:
faulkfan
Footballguy
This is what I was thinking too. Alexander seems to have come out of nowhere to take VJax's old role.
I think the fact that somebody had Morris ranked 15th for week 1 pretty much states he's not in this discussion
Dr. Awesome
Footballguy
Because that means he wasn't grabbed off the ww? I picked him up game day and started him.I think the fact that somebody had Morris ranked 15th for week 1 pretty much states he's not in this discussion
Todd Andrews
Footballguy
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