Has the Waiver Wire Darling for 2012 Been Found Yet? (1 Viewer)

[fatness]

Clown.

I'll go along with Clown.

 

[mdlane]

What we need is a screenshot of Yahoo of a free agent list on the first day of the season, and then agree on an arbitrary percentage ownership to qualify as a WW wonder - say 5%. That way you could have an objective conversation without insulting each others' league qualifications.

 

[Frenchy Fuqua]

Tebow

 

[CaGamblers]

Jonathan Grimes, NYJ RB..............Just watch!

I picked him in both of my leagues this week.

 

[kd1]

What we need is a screenshot of Yahoo of a free agent list on the first day of the season, and then agree on an arbitrary percentage ownership to qualify as a WW wonder - say 5%. That way you could have an objective conversation without insulting each others' league qualifications.

what about marginal draft picks who do nothing for 3 weeks and are left for dead, then explode (possibly ryan williams, for instance)?

 

[Nucker101]

My guesses at this point would be:

Dennis Pitta(still think he'll finish as a top 7 TE in PPR, not really a breakout though)

Leonard Hankerson(Garcon's foot injury is scary and this kid is very talented and now has an opportunity to see a good amount of targets)

Darius Reynaud(Chris Johnson looks awful, the O-Line, coaching and passing game is also a problem but Reynaud is intriguing)

Bryce Brown/Bernard Pierce(If Rice or McCoy go down)

Shane Vereen(If he gets on the field, I think he'll be able to show that he's NE's most talented RB)

 

[Ranethe]

Some people here just can't grasp a simple concept. Waiver Wire darling is someone who went virtually undrafted in ALL leagues no matter the size (unless you're talking about deep 20+ team leagues) and/or began the season on the Waiver Wire in all leagues (for all you people who are calling Alfred Morris a Waiver Wire darling because you held your draft in June). It amazes me that people don't see the difference between Brandon Lloyd/Victor Cruz and Alfred Morris/Mikel Leshoure.If you're in a small league with shallow benches, don't even come an write in this thread unless you get the point. Your thoughts are useless. I'm still waiting for someone in a 6-team league to come here and say Torrey Smith.

The same people who think Morris and Leshoure qualify as WW darlings were saying Cam Newton last year.

LOL. you don't get it either, apparently. Cam Newton absolutely was one last year. The biggest example of a WW darling qb since Kurt Warner.you sir, are an idiot.

 

[SameSongNDance]

Jonathan Grimes, NYJ RB..............Just watch!I picked him in both of my leagues this week.

Good god, it might be Grime Time.

 

[jeremyx13]

Leshoure?

Was drafted in almost every draft I have seen. Couple of times by me.

 

[Ketamine Dreams]

Leshoure?

Was drafted in almost every draft I have seen. Couple of times by me.

Yes, same here. A lot of drafted guys are getting mentioned. Hawkins is probably the best one so far. He's done quite a bit with few target. Possible it's Andre Brown, but he was only one week so far. He needs Bradshaw to stay off the field, but that's certainly possible.

 

[redjake]

Jesus, this forum sucks.

 

[Buck Bradcanon]

Lot of Barden mentions in this thread, but after watching last night and reading the Nicks update below, I think the WW gem of the year is going to be Domenik Hixon.

Giants coach Tom Coughlin said Monday that Hakeem Nicks' troublesome knee has not improved since last Thursday's practice.Nicks experienced an apparent setback with the knee after the practice, as he was downgraded from questionable to doubtful and ultimately ruled out for Week 4 against the Eagles after the knee swelled up. He has problems with both his right foot and left knee, although the latter appears to be Nicks' biggest issue at this point. Asked Monday if he's concerned with the knee, Coughlin replied, "How much concern can I show you?" We're skeptical Nicks stands any chance of playing in Week 5 against the Browns.

 

[DoubleG]

Jesus, this forum sucks.

You're praying out loud again.

 

[DevilintheDetail]

Hartline is the clear choice at this point. Top 3 WR after the first 1/4 of the fantasy season.

 

[inca911]

Andre Brown- huge upside on a team that loves to run and has a brittle starter, an underachieving rookie and a coach that doesnt like fumbling.

That team that loves to run finished 32nd in the league last year in rushing yards.

But 6th in Rushing TDs, and one TD shy of tied for #3. Fight fair...In PPR, I'm liking Hartline as well.

 

[Ariakis]

Hartline? Targets are there for a team that should have to throw and a decent enough young QB yet not dangerous enough to command a defense especially with Bush healthy.

I like the Scott call (digging real deep) for some upside but again picking the WW darling to predict injuries is different than picking with what we know today.

James Jones and Hixon will get their shots in week 5 with Nicks/Jennings potentially in for long years. Ogletree only if someone gets hurt.

Not sold on Hankerson as more than an upside WR3 with Garcon returning and enough mouths to feed with a running QB.

Amendola will be involved all year but probably not more than a WR3.

Not a believer in Andre Roberts but we'll see. Worth grabbing for sure but can THIS offense really support two WR's?

Hawkins for sure ... not sure he'll get enough weekly touches but if he does LOOK OUT!

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

Some people here just can't grasp a simple concept. Waiver Wire darling is someone who went virtually undrafted in ALL leagues no matter the size (unless you're talking about deep 20+ team leagues) and/or began the season on the Waiver Wire in all leagues (for all you people who are calling Alfred Morris a Waiver Wire darling because you held your draft in June).

It amazes me that people don't see the difference between Brandon Lloyd/Victor Cruz and Alfred Morris/Mikel Leshoure.

If you're in a small league with shallow benches, don't even come an write in this thread unless you get the point. Your thoughts are useless. I'm still waiting for someone in a 6-team league to come here and say Torrey Smith.

That might be YOUR definition.. (But not Everyone else)These threads are not just for a select few who "believe" they are in the BEST

leagues possible, it is for the whole community, an many can benefit from them.

WW wonder for me are the guys that were drafted on "Some" teams at the very end

of there drafts or not drafted at all in quite a few leagues, it does not Have to be a guy

that was "guaranteed" not to be drafted by Anyone in Any Leagues across the boards.

(but players that were available in "quite a number" of leagues and not drafted there)

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Jerome Simpson might be a candidate, probably not drafted in many leagues, an may

break out with the way Ponder has been playing an the surrounding supporting offense.

(for that matter Ponder himself if he continues to improve and adding Jerome Simpson)

.

I drafted him in every league

 

[replacements]

lots of nitpicking in this thread. In many leagues i have to imagine that hartline is the clear cut ww darling to this point. If your in a smaller league or drafted early in the season as many dynasty leagues do than perhaps it's Al Mo.

After glancing thru the posts, 1 name I have not seen is T.Y. hilton. In my dynasty leagues he is already rostered, but I would imagine that prior to week 3 he would have been available in most redraft leagues.I have not watched any indy games yet this year, but with collie out and seemingly very little running production so far, it's safe to speculate Luck will be chucking th ball around quite a bit. I see some opportunity for procuction from him.

I don't know much about him except he is relatively small, and pretty quick. Good hands?

 

[donkshow]

lots of nitpicking in this thread. In many leagues i have to imagine that hartline is the clear cut ww darling to this point. If your in a smaller league or drafted early in the season as many dynasty leagues do than perhaps it's Al Mo. After glancing thru the posts, 1 name I have not seen is T.Y. hilton. In my dynasty leagues he is already rostered, but I would imagine that prior to week 3 he would have been available in most redraft leagues.I have not watched any indy games yet this year, but with collie out and seemingly very little running production so far, it's safe to speculate Luck will be chucking th ball around quite a bit. I see some opportunity for procuction from him. I don't know much about him except he is relatively small, and pretty quick. Good hands?

Luck will be throwing the ball a ton, and with Collie out it opens up an opportunity for Hilton. However, Avery is currently higher than him on the pecking order and Luck/Avery have had a solid connection.I like Hilton better, and both should get a their fair share of targets. We'll see who runs with the WR2 opportunity.

 

[dickey moe]

Morris is the closest thing to it so far.

 

[ScottyDog]

I am leaning towards Alfred Morris so far.

 

[strong]

what's this? three consecutive posts that merely mention and discuss a player and don't offer up personal definitions of a "waiver wire darling"?

for shame, shark pool. for shame.

i for one come to this forum for the sole purpose of better understanding what a waiver wire darling is and what goalline carries are. i don't come here for discussion and analysis of actual players.

let's get back to the heart of this thread: the appropriate "Owned" percentage on Yahoo Fantasy sites at the time of the opening kickoff. I propose 4%.

 

[spider321]

Arian Foster has done well so far. I may pick him up soon.

Bring it *****es!

 

[noneother]

Arian Foster has done well so far. I may pick him up soon.Bring it *****es!

I missed out in him last week. Looking towards that Det WR Johnson? Guess he's a long shot only one TD. Really. I'm with the AMortis team, for now

 

[sdp1226]

Still no clear answer to this question.

(Not including Alfred Morris, as is seems he was drafted in most league)

Hartline, James Jones, Hawkins are still candidates but neither is running away with it.

Cross Pitta, Simpson, Andre Brown off this list.

 

[munygon2]

I haven't used my top WW pick all year. Still waiting for someone, but there just isn't much out there - esp in a 14 team league where most players AND their backs are already gone.

 

[jim k]

Nobody earth shattering so far. Maybe that is due to the lockout year and players were weeded out last year.

I would say Hillman rb denver and Green rb GB might turn opportunity into fantasy bronze.

 

[shadyridr]

this is the worst year for ww darlings ive ever remembered. hartline and pitta is the only candidate in my league

 

[ponchsox]

Other than bye week fillers, the WW has been crapola this year. It certainly looks like a strong draft will be the ticket to the playoffs this year.

 

[HairySasquatch]

Green will get his tryout in GB. If he does well while Benson is out, I can see him keeping the job. He has looked explosive at times. The first five games of the season has proven that GB needs to establish a more balanced offense. And I'm a Benson owner...I can see the writing on the wall.

 

[jaydarl]

So far the only one I see is Morris. Over the years, I have rode WW pickups to the house, this year I have shot blanks with the exception of Andre Brown, who is already back on WW in two of the three leagues I play. I'm still holding him for now. The cupboard is bare, even in the standard 10 teams leagues I prefer.

 

[Lavachebeadsman]

I think Hillman has a chance to be this years Blount. Top 20ish guy once he starts getting the touches.

 

[DoubleG]

I think Hillman has a chance to be this years Blount. Top 20ish guy once he starts getting the touches.

The bolded is the problem...and true for quite a few backup RBs - just saying.

 

[ponchsox]

Waldman's WW report just came out and it's trash collection time this week.

 

[donkshow]

I haven't used my top WW pick all year. Still waiting for someone, but there just isn't much out there - esp in a 14 team league where most players AND their backs are already gone.

Yep, me too.

 

[Reepicheep]

The answer is Legatron.

 

[Lavachebeadsman]

I think Hillman has a chance to be this years Blount. Top 20ish guy once he starts getting the touches.

The bolded is the problem...and true for quite a few backup RBs - just saying.

But I think with Mcgahee's game ending terrible ness, that window is firmly cracked open and will continue to widen as the season continues.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

what's this? three consecutive posts that merely mention and discuss a player and don't offer up personal definitions of a "waiver wire darling"? for shame, shark pool. for shame. i for one come to this forum for the sole purpose of better understanding what a waiver wire darling is and what goalline carries are. i don't come here for discussion and analysis of actual players. let's get back to the heart of this thread: the appropriate "Owned" percentage on Yahoo Fantasy sites at the time of the opening kickoff. I propose 4%.

Couldn't you go as high as 20%?The idea is that *most* leagues by far would not have owned a player by week 1.If you can get a regular starter off the WW week 1 or after that might suffice to make the list.Who would meet that definition? Not Morris.ETA:HartlineZuerlein (if he has a few more games like last week)

 

[sdp1226]

The answer is Legatron.

 

[simey]

If you can get a regular starter off the WW week 1 or after that might suffice to make the list.Who would meet that definition? Not Morris.

Why not Morris? I picked him up as a flyer the Wednesday the season opened with it's first game. He was last on the depth chart all the way up to their first game. He wasn't named the starter until the day before their first game. Most people drafted Helu or Royster.

 

[Prinefan]

If you can get a regular starter off the WW week 1 or after that might suffice to make the list.Who would meet that definition? Not Morris.

Why not Morris? I picked him up as a flyer the Wednesday the season opened with it's first game. He was last on the depth chart all the way up to their first game. He wasn't named the starter until the day before their first game. Most people drafted Helu or Royster.

Another for Morris. In my mind, he's a ww darling. Nobody really saw this coming. If you say you saw this during your draft, you're lying.

 

[LawFitz]

For those touting Hillman, has John Fox ever featured a rookie RB over a capable vet? Not in my recollection.

 

[in2win]

Calm down and be patient.....injuries turn into opportunities. Guys like Murray last year and Spiller didnt become available until late and paid off for owners greatly down the stretch.

 

[meyerj31]

Leading candidate has to be Alfred Morris. I don't think he was drafted in any of my 8 re-draft leagues and is a top RB so far.

 

[munygon2]

One of the things that I am dealing with in having a top WW pick is that by holding off every week, the bottom half of the league has nothing to lose and they are just picking up players left and right. So far a few of them have been productive enough to get you a win for that one week, like Andre Brown for example. And then when he doesn't produce he gets dropped for the next flavor of the week, and so on - not leaving anything out there to choose from after waivers clear.

 

[lbouchard]

If you can get a regular starter off the WW week 1 or after that might suffice to make the list.Who would meet that definition? Not Morris.

Why not Morris? I picked him up as a flyer the Wednesday the season opened with it's first game. He was last on the depth chart all the way up to their first game. He wasn't named the starter until the day before their first game. Most people drafted Helu or Royster.

Another for Morris. In my mind, he's a ww darling. Nobody really saw this coming. If you say you saw this during your draft, you're lying.

If he was drafted in a majority of leagues, even as a late flyer (and he was drafted in most leagues unless you draft early), he's not a WW darling.

 

[omally]

If you can get a regular starter off the WW week 1 or after that might suffice to make the list.Who would meet that definition? Not Morris.

Why not Morris? I picked him up as a flyer the Wednesday the season opened with it's first game. He was last on the depth chart all the way up to their first game. He wasn't named the starter until the day before their first game. Most people drafted Helu or Royster.

Another for Morris. In my mind, he's a ww darling. Nobody really saw this coming. If you say you saw this during your draft, you're lying.

If he was drafted in a majority of leagues, even as a late flyer (and he was drafted in most leagues unless you draft early), he's not a WW darling.

I don't believe he was drafted in the majority of leagues.

 

[Nucker101]

For those touting Hillman, has John Fox ever featured a rookie RB over a capable vet? Not in my recollection.

Good point.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

If you can get a regular starter off the WW week 1 or after that might suffice to make the list.Who would meet that definition? Not Morris.

Why not Morris? I picked him up as a flyer the Wednesday the season opened with it's first game. He was last on the depth chart all the way up to their first game. He wasn't named the starter until the day before their first game. Most people drafted Helu or Royster.

Another for Morris. In my mind, he's a ww darling. Nobody really saw this coming. If you say you saw this during your draft, you're lying.

If he was drafted in a majority of leagues, even as a late flyer (and he was drafted in most leagues unless you draft early), he's not a WW darling.

I don't believe he was drafted in the majority of leagues.

The best I could find was this article saying he was 31% owned in Yahoo by week 1's games:http://www.thefantasyfix.com/2/post/2012/09/2012-fantasy-football-week-two-waiver-wire-hoping-to-wake-up-to-alfred-morris.htmlMaybe that fits the bill, or maybe think it has to be someone that nearly all leagues had unrostered week 1.

 

[Reepicheep]

If you can get a regular starter off the WW week 1 or after that might suffice to make the list.Who would meet that definition? Not Morris.

Why not Morris? I picked him up as a flyer the Wednesday the season opened with it's first game. He was last on the depth chart all the way up to their first game. He wasn't named the starter until the day before their first game. Most people drafted Helu or Royster.

Another for Morris. In my mind, he's a ww darling. Nobody really saw this coming. If you say you saw this during your draft, you're lying.

If he was drafted in a majority of leagues, even as a late flyer (and he was drafted in most leagues unless you draft early), he's not a WW darling.

I don't believe he was drafted in the majority of leagues.

I think when some people say "draft early," they mean "any time before the final preseason game has been played."We drafted during the 3rd preseason weekend, 12 team league with a couple of Skins fans, Royster and Helu were drafted, Morris was not. I grabbed him off the wire during the week before kickoff.