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Have things changed since Joe blowed this place up? (2 Viewers)

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Will the next person that sees anything like this directed at someone point them out so we can get there out of here? This isn't Cleveland.
People talk about self-policing, but when it comes to it they are too emotionally invested in their political views.  Is it really that hard to not make arguements personal?  When people resort to personal comments it is destructive to the discussion and an intellectually lazy tactic.  

 
People talk about self-policing, but when it comes to it they are too emotionally invested in their political views.  Is it really that hard to not make arguements personal?  When people resort to personal comments it is destructive to the discussion and an intellectually lazy tactic.  
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Can someone explain why it is ok for posters to accuse other posters of being racists on this forum based on nothing?   Seriously, why is nothing done?

 
Can someone explain why it is ok for posters to accuse other posters of being racists on this forum based on nothing?   Seriously, why is nothing done?
I doubt it is ok...i haven't seem people accused of being racist in some time.

 
Can someone explain why it is ok for posters to accuse other posters of being racists on this forum based on nothing?   Seriously, why is nothing done?
Was it reported? Joe has been pretty clear that they moderate based on reported posts. If something isn’t reported with the report button, don’t expect anything to happen. 

 
Of course not. 
I am serious. Can you provide a recent post/quote of these other posters who accuse others of being racist "based on nothing"? 

And what specifically in the Talib thread? I don't recall anything like that today.

 
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This post started it by Tobias:

My post was about your terrible analogy, which you ignored.

Anyway, this post says more about how you feel about David Duke/white supremacists than anything else. Also, as a Jew, I'd like to ask that you kindly stop using false accusations of anti-Semitism in bad faith as a political weapon.

If you're wondering how I know it's in bad faith, it's because I can find dozens and dozens of worse examples from the right and neither you nor any other conservative around here has said a single word about any of them.

So please, stop pretending you care about us as a way to attack women of color whose politics you don't like. We're not buying it.

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Basically stating I am a disingenuous liar who targets women of color which is a clear insinuation I am racist.  It is way over the line uncalled for personal attack. 

 
This post started it by Tobias:

My post was about your terrible analogy, which you ignored.

Anyway, this post says more about how you feel about David Duke/white supremacists than anything else. Also, as a Jew, I'd like to ask that you kindly stop using false accusations of anti-Semitism in bad faith as a political weapon.

If you're wondering how I know it's in bad faith, it's because I can find dozens and dozens of worse examples from the right and neither you nor any other conservative around here has said a single word about any of them.

So please, stop pretending you care about us as a way to attack women of color whose politics you don't like. We're not buying it.

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Basically stating I am a disingenuous liar who targets women of color which is a clear insinuation I am racist.  It is way over the line uncalled for personal attack. 
I will let the mods decide. But not even seeing an inference there that he said you or any other poster are racist.

 
If you twist your mind into a pretzel and do a mental backflip you'll be able to see it. 
There is no twisting involved.  We dove into this before and we went back to a post he recieved a TO for and he reiterated that he stands behind this:

"Yes, I agree. The issue here is the disgraceful, pathetic, rage-inducing duplicity of many conservatives who have co-opted anti-Semitism for their own Islamophobic political gain on the one hand while doing virtually everything they can to ignore of even embrace white nationalism on the other hand.  They are duplicitous bloodsuckers feeding on bigotry. This poster is merely echoing their disingenuous garbage on a much smaller stage."

He was just being a bit more subtle in his vileness today. 

 
There is no twisting involved.  We dove into this before and we went back to a post he recieved a TO for and he reiterated that he stands behind this:

"Yes, I agree. The issue here is the disgraceful, pathetic, rage-inducing duplicity of many conservatives who have co-opted anti-Semitism for their own Islamophobic political gain on the one hand while doing virtually everything they can to ignore of even embrace white nationalism on the other hand.  They are duplicitous bloodsuckers feeding on bigotry. This poster is merely echoing their disingenuous garbage on a much smaller stage."

He was just being a bit more subtle in his vileness today. 
Yea, that post is pretty awful. 

 
But that post was a while ago and he was suspended for it...whats the purpose of beinging it back up?  It doesn't change that the current posting is not calling anyone racist at all.  Thats a pretty big accusation to make.

 
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But that post was a while ago and he was suspended for it...whats the purpose of beinging ir back up?  It doesn't change that the current posting is not calling anyone racist at all.  Thats a pretty big accusation to make.
Because it mirrors what he said today and when I pointed that specific old post out today he says he still stands by that.   This type of discussion has no place on this forum.  Just because you wrap it in a bit nicer package with inuendo instead of a club does not change the essence of the attack. 

 
Because it mirrors what he said today and when I pointed that specific old post out today he says he still stands by that.   This type of discussion has no place on this forum.  Just because you wrap it in a bit nicer package with inuendo instead of a club does not change the essence of the attack. 
Sho is stirring the pot. He gets away with it. 

 
There is no twisting involved.  We dove into this before and we went back to a post he recieved a TO for and he reiterated that he stands behind this:

"Yes, I agree. The issue here is the disgraceful, pathetic, rage-inducing duplicity of many conservatives who have co-opted anti-Semitism for their own Islamophobic political gain on the one hand while doing virtually everything they can to ignore of even embrace white nationalism on the other hand.  They are duplicitous bloodsuckers feeding on bigotry. This poster is merely echoing their disingenuous garbage on a much smaller stage."

He was just being a bit more subtle in his vileness today. 
You have got to be kidding.  So...to paraphrase... "This is what he said in the past and got a TO, so this must be what he is saying again now, except "just being a bit more subtle in his vileness today"?

This seems to be getting dangerously close into Orwell's 1984 thoughtcrime territory.

 
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You have got to be kidding?  So...to paraphrase... "This is what he said in the past and got a TO, so this must be what he is saying again now, except "just being a bit more subtle in his vileness today"?

This seems to be getting dangerously close to Orwell's 1984 thoughtcrime territory.
Dude...you are offended by an emoji.

 
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You have got to be kidding.  So...to paraphrase... "This is what he said in the past and got a TO, so this must be what he is saying again now, except "just being a bit more subtle in his vileness today"?

This seems to be getting dangerously close into Orwell's 1984 thoughtcrime territory.
Drop it. 

 
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Because it mirrors what he said today and when I pointed that specific old post out today he says he still stands by that.   This type of discussion has no place on this forum.  Just because you wrap it in a bit nicer package with inuendo instead of a club does not change the essence of the attack. 
Drop it. 

 
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Sho is stirring the pot. He gets away with it. 
There are a bunch non-substantive threads, such as this one, where people can talk about stuff besides politics. They can talk about moderation, they can talk about how to make the forum better, and so on.

There are *NO* threads where it's okay to comment on the posting styles of other specific posters.

I expect to have some time to start suspending people on Wednesday of this week. I think week-long suspensions for a lot of things is too much, so I'll be giving out two-day suspensions, or maybe somewhere in between, depending in a variety of factors.

We are going to go back to some strict rules.

The main rule is: Post about the topic of the thread. Not about how other people are trolling or stirring the pot.

 
I'm going to lock this thread.

Let's add a rule that only moderators can start non-substantive threads.

Threads started by other people should be about political stuff. That's what this subforum is supposed to be for.

 
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