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A plea for civility in the PSF. (1 Viewer)

And that’s the contradiction I was discussing earlier. Every Trump person I know is a wonderful person. Decent and kind. And yet they vote for this awful person with bigoted, unAmerican ideas. I know that most of his supporters aren’t bigoted. So what’s the ****ing deal? I’ve never been able to reconcile it.
Maybe you should reevaluate how much faith you have in the media you consume. They are very dishonest about a great many things, and they profit off of your anger/perceptions of the other side.

Consider this:
McCain: Racist, sexist ,bigot, homophobe etc.
Romney: Racist, sexist, bigot, homophobe, etc
Trump: Racist, sexist, bigot, homophobe, etc.
Biden: Crickets

It gets old being called all of those things because you disagree with a candidate about tax policy or social safety nets. Trump's success is because he was the first one that fought back against it. McCain and Romney did not, and they lost. I know it's been said here before, but Trump isn't Republicans saying F you to Democrats as much as it's saying F you to the media.
I don't know where you get that at all.

McCain: A friggin hero and excellent moderate statesmen. It's a shame he was forced into having a lunatic as VP.
Romney: Solid moderate statesmen in a weird religion.
Trump: As you say
Biden: Old as dirt who's biggest qualification is he isn't named Donald Trump
You don't know where I get what? That's what the media and DNC said about McCain and Romney while they were running. Not me. Once they were no longer a threat, they said the nice stuff. Romney didn't become a statesman in their eyes until he voted to remove Trump.
I only posted it because I was trying to help Tim reconcile his position that even though all the Trump people he knows in real life aren't bad people, the ones he sees on TV are all horrible. The media is feeding that to him and he's lapping it up. He seemed genuinely curious, but I guess he wasn't.
So the media was totally kind to Hillary and Obama during their POTUS campaigns?
I didn't say anything like that, did I? I know it's easier to change the subject than to address it, but it's not very helpful.
That's twice now in this thread that someone tried to read my mind and argue with thoughts that don't exist.
It's also why I almost always regret posting here.
Chill dude. guess I don't get your point then? All media is unkind to POTUS / campaigns.

Heck, Obama was called racist by the media.
:shrug:

Joe Biden just ran a campaign from his basement and had a son doing God knows what and it was nothing to see here...all campaigns are not treated the same.
The media was key in getting Trump elected in 2016. Deny?

Not because they gave him positive coverage...you cannot seriously believe that was the reason...Trump in 2016 was different than any other candidate but in no way was the MSM actually rooting for him...he was a non-threatening oddity that was not a threat to the dems (Hillary's wanted him to win the nomination)...until he became one.
Why are we talking about all this again? and yes, of course. The reason Trump got in was because of the media coverage of Hillary. The drumbeat against the Clintons started with Rush 10 + years before and culminated with her leading a child pornography ring working out of a pizza joint.

We are talking about it because you brought it up.
Wrong. That would be @psychobillies
 
I understand that the original purpose of this thread has long since been tossed to the roadside, but I only recently came across it. Ironically, or unironically maybe, I was in the middle of a week long self imposed hiatus from this place exactly because I realized it was making me anxious and agitated. I'm more of a reader than a participator especially the last many years, but its still been more or less a part of my weekly routine for a long time. When I came back and saw the top thread was a this one started by you know who with 10 pages already since I last was here, I said to myself of course.

I'm not sure what's changed but this place seems angrier lately. Some of it is the absence of a few top tier posters, some of it is a reflection of the times, some of it is people like the OP who are just so exhausting. Whatever the reason, I think I'll extend my break for a little while longer. @Joe Bryant if you read this, I hope you don't shut it down, but no one can blame you if you do.
 
My updated opinion is that Joe has zero intention of actually shutting this subforum down, so everyone should rest easy. This week says it all, where there was more "we may need to shut it down" talk followed by many still misbehaving, yet the beats goes on. I think the hope is that the threat of a shutdown gets people to stop misbehaving, but I believe the bluff has been called. This subforum will remain.
 
My updated opinion is that Joe has zero intention of actually shutting this subforum down, so everyone should rest easy. This week says it all, where there was more "we may need to shut it down" talk followed by many still misbehaving, yet the beats goes on. I think the hope is that the threat of a shutdown gets people to stop misbehaving, but I believe the bluff has been called. This subforum will remain.

It's my busiest week of the year with NFL work.
 
some of it is people like the OP who are just so exhausting.
Sorry that you feel this way. It’s never been my intent to exhaust anyone. I don’t really know you, but in recent weeks you’ve expressed a good deal of antagonism towards me. If I’ve caused you to have that, I apologize. I don’t have any towards you.
I'm very fond of this place, been here for a long time, made some friends along the way. You're fine until you're not just like anyone else, but your omnipresence means that you're not a lot more than most

Back to my extended break, see ya in the funny papers
 
Civility lasted what..2-3 days. Tried to read through a couple threads here tonight.

Things are right back in the crapper.
It’s sad I agree.

We should just ignore posts that don’t deal directly with political issues.

We should just ignore posts that don’t deal directly with political issues.

Unless of course, they involve "fisting" which has seemed to have gotten the FBG's Seal Of Approval for a thread tile.

I seriously just don't get what is going on with this site anymore.
 
Civility lasted what..2-3 days. Tried to read through a couple threads here tonight.

Things are right back in the crapper.
It’s sad I agree.

We should just ignore posts that don’t deal directly with political issues.

We should just ignore posts that don’t deal directly with political issues.

Unless of course, they involve "fisting" which has seemed to have gotten the FBG's Seal Of Approval for a thread tile.

I seriously just don't get what is going on with this site anymore.
In what context are people talking about fisting? Different strokes and all that , I guess
 
Civility lasted what..2-3 days. Tried to read through a couple threads here tonight.

Things are right back in the crapper.
It’s sad I agree.

We should just ignore posts that don’t deal directly with political issues.

We should just ignore posts that don’t deal directly with political issues.

Unless of course, they involve "fisting" which has seemed to have gotten the FBG's Seal Of Approval for a thread tile.

I seriously just don't get what is going on with this site anymore.
In what context are people talking about fisting? Different strokes and all that , I guess

In what context are people talking about fisting?

Fun Fact: There is a thread about that. Maybe you should check it out (or maybe not).

 
Civility lasted what..2-3 days. Tried to read through a couple threads here tonight.

Things are right back in the crapper.
It’s sad I agree.

We should just ignore posts that don’t deal directly with political issues.

We should just ignore posts that don’t deal directly with political issues.

Unless of course, they involve "fisting" which has seemed to have gotten the FBG's Seal Of Approval for a thread tile.

I seriously just don't get what is going on with this site anymore.
Gross man, be better if you come back.
 
Civility lasted what..2-3 days. Tried to read through a couple threads here tonight.

Things are right back in the crapper.
It’s sad I agree.

We should just ignore posts that don’t deal directly with political issues.

We should just ignore posts that don’t deal directly with political issues.

Unless of course, they involve "fisting" which has seemed to have gotten the FBG's Seal Of Approval for a thread tile.

I seriously just don't get what is going on with this site anymore.
Gross man, be better if you come back.

It is obvious that the powers that be here must approve of this inappropriate, offensive and intentionally misleading thread title because they have allowed to up remain for four days and I don't understand why.
 
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Civility lasted what..2-3 days. Tried to read through a couple threads here tonight.

Things are right back in the crapper.
It’s sad I agree.

We should just ignore posts that don’t deal directly with political issues.

We should just ignore posts that don’t deal directly with political issues.

Unless of course, they involve "fisting" which has seemed to have gotten the FBG's Seal Of Approval for a thread tile.

I seriously just don't get what is going on with this site anymore.
Gross man, be better if you come back.

It is obvious that powers that be must approve of this inappropriate, offensive and intentionally misleading thread title because they have allowed to up remain for four days and I don't understand why.

There is no MAGA movement without threats and violence is such an intellectually honest thread topic but don’t see you crying about that.​

 
Civility lasted what..2-3 days. Tried to read through a couple threads here tonight.

Things are right back in the crapper.
It’s sad I agree.

We should just ignore posts that don’t deal directly with political issues.

We should just ignore posts that don’t deal directly with political issues.

Unless of course, they involve "fisting" which has seemed to have gotten the FBG's Seal Of Approval for a thread tile.

I seriously just don't get what is going on with this site anymore.
Gross man, be better if you come back.

It is obvious that powers that be must approve of this inappropriate, offensive and intentionally misleading thread title because they have allowed to up remain for four days and I don't understand why.

There is no MAGA movement without threats and violence is such an intellectually honest thread topic but don’t see you crying about that.​

Great whataboutism. Exactly the same. I'm sure if I searched I could find thread titles about liberals that weren't about sex but worse than the one you just posted.
 
Civility lasted what..2-3 days. Tried to read through a couple threads here tonight.

Things are right back in the crapper.
It’s sad I agree.

We should just ignore posts that don’t deal directly with political issues.

We should just ignore posts that don’t deal directly with political issues.

Unless of course, they involve "fisting" which has seemed to have gotten the FBG's Seal Of Approval for a thread tile.

I seriously just don't get what is going on with this site anymore.
Gross man, be better if you come back.

It is obvious that powers that be must approve of this inappropriate, offensive and intentionally misleading thread title because they have allowed to up remain for four days and I don't understand why.

There is no MAGA movement without threats and violence is such an intellectually honest thread topic but don’t see you crying about that.​


Well, if the MAGA movement thread included graphic descriptions of sex practices that many people find gross and disgusting in the title, then you would probably see me complaining about it.
 
Civility lasted what..2-3 days. Tried to read through a couple threads here tonight.

Things are right back in the crapper.
It’s sad I agree.

We should just ignore posts that don’t deal directly with political issues.

We should just ignore posts that don’t deal directly with political issues.

Unless of course, they involve "fisting" which has seemed to have gotten the FBG's Seal Of Approval for a thread tile.

I seriously just don't get what is going on with this site anymore.
Gross man, be better if you come back.

It is obvious that powers that be must approve of this inappropriate, offensive and intentionally misleading thread title because they have allowed to up remain for four days and I don't understand why.

There is no MAGA movement without threats and violence is such an intellectually honest thread topic but don’t see you crying about that.​

All thread titles cannot be pigeonholed into the same box.
 
Civility lasted what..2-3 days. Tried to read through a couple threads here tonight.

Things are right back in the crapper.
It’s sad I agree.

We should just ignore posts that don’t deal directly with political issues.

We should just ignore posts that don’t deal directly with political issues.

Unless of course, they involve "fisting" which has seemed to have gotten the FBG's Seal Of Approval for a thread tile.

I seriously just don't get what is going on with this site anymore.
Gross man, be better if you come back.

It is obvious that powers that be must approve of this inappropriate, offensive and intentionally misleading thread title because they have allowed to up remain for four days and I don't understand why.

There is no MAGA movement without threats and violence is such an intellectually honest thread topic but don’t see you crying about that.​

Great whataboutism. Exactly the same. I'm sure if I searched I could find thread titles about liberals that weren't about sex but worse than the one you just posted.
Blatant alias accounts trolling threads. Same it ever was.
 
Civility lasted what..2-3 days. Tried to read through a couple threads here tonight.

Things are right back in the crapper.
It’s sad I agree.

We should just ignore posts that don’t deal directly with political issues.

We should just ignore posts that don’t deal directly with political issues.

Unless of course, they involve "fisting" which has seemed to have gotten the FBG's Seal Of Approval for a thread tile.

I seriously just don't get what is going on with this site anymore.
Gross man, be better if you come back.

It is obvious that powers that be must approve of this inappropriate, offensive and intentionally misleading thread title because they have allowed to up remain for four days and I don't understand why.

There is no MAGA movement without threats and violence is such an intellectually honest thread topic but don’t see you crying about that.​

Great whataboutism. Exactly the same. I'm sure if I searched I could find thread titles about liberals that weren't about sex but worse than the one you just posted.
Blatant alias accounts trolling threads. Same it ever was.
But wait!!! He said that he wasn't here previously and that he's brand new to these forums! :lol:
 
Civility lasted what..2-3 days. Tried to read through a couple threads here tonight.

Things are right back in the crapper.
It’s sad I agree.

We should just ignore posts that don’t deal directly with political issues.

We should just ignore posts that don’t deal directly with political issues.

Unless of course, they involve "fisting" which has seemed to have gotten the FBG's Seal Of Approval for a thread tile.

I seriously just don't get what is going on with this site anymore.
Gross man, be better if you come back.

It is obvious that powers that be must approve of this inappropriate, offensive and intentionally misleading thread title because they have allowed to up remain for four days and I don't understand why.

There is no MAGA movement without threats and violence is such an intellectually honest thread topic but don’t see you crying about that.​

Great whataboutism. Exactly the same. I'm sure if I searched I could find thread titles about liberals that weren't about sex but worse than the one you just posted.
Blatant alias accounts trolling threads. Same it ever was.
But wait!!! He said that he wasn't here previously and that he's brand new to these forums! :lol:
Wow. You guys sure know how to make new folks feel welcome. Do you think this website and forum are hidden? That no one besides you enjoys the back and forth in a political based discussion?

Geez.
 
I am sorry guys, Joe had made it very clear, with emoji, that alias accounts don't bother him a bit. Not sure what you are whining about.
 
Civility lasted what..2-3 days. Tried to read through a couple threads here tonight.

Things are right back in the crapper.
It’s sad I agree.

We should just ignore posts that don’t deal directly with political issues.

We should just ignore posts that don’t deal directly with political issues.

Unless of course, they involve "fisting" which has seemed to have gotten the FBG's Seal Of Approval for a thread tile.

I seriously just don't get what is going on with this site anymore.
Gross man, be better if you come back.

It is obvious that powers that be must approve of this inappropriate, offensive and intentionally misleading thread title because they have allowed to up remain for four days and I don't understand why.

There is no MAGA movement without threats and violence is such an intellectually honest thread topic but don’t see you crying about that.​

Great whataboutism. Exactly the same. I'm sure if I searched I could find thread titles about liberals that weren't about sex but worse than the one you just posted.
Blatant alias accounts trolling threads. Same it ever was.
But wait!!! He said that he wasn't here previously and that he's brand new to these forums! :lol:
Wow. You guys sure know how to make new folks feel welcome. Do you think this website and forum are hidden? That no one besides you enjoys the back and forth in a political based discussion?

Geez.
I welcome you to our forums, Tobias! Welcome back!!!
 
Civility lasted what..2-3 days. Tried to read through a couple threads here tonight.

Things are right back in the crapper.
It’s sad I agree.

We should just ignore posts that don’t deal directly with political issues.

We should just ignore posts that don’t deal directly with political issues.

Unless of course, they involve "fisting" which has seemed to have gotten the FBG's Seal Of Approval for a thread tile.

I seriously just don't get what is going on with this site anymore.
Gross man, be better if you come back.

It is obvious that powers that be must approve of this inappropriate, offensive and intentionally misleading thread title because they have allowed to up remain for four days and I don't understand why.

There is no MAGA movement without threats and violence is such an intellectually honest thread topic but don’t see you crying about that.​


Well, if the MAGA movement thread included graphic descriptions of sex practices that many people find gross and disgusting in the title, then you would probably see me complaining about it.
I don’t judge . Live and let live. Life is too short. As long as it’s legal who cares what consenting adults do
 
Civility lasted what..2-3 days. Tried to read through a couple threads here tonight.

Things are right back in the crapper.
It’s sad I agree.

We should just ignore posts that don’t deal directly with political issues.

We should just ignore posts that don’t deal directly with political issues.

Unless of course, they involve "fisting" which has seemed to have gotten the FBG's Seal Of Approval for a thread tile.

I seriously just don't get what is going on with this site anymore.
Gross man, be better if you come back.

It is obvious that powers that be must approve of this inappropriate, offensive and intentionally misleading thread title because they have allowed to up remain for four days and I don't understand why.

There is no MAGA movement without threats and violence is such an intellectually honest thread topic but don’t see you crying about that.​


Well, if the MAGA movement thread included graphic descriptions of sex practices that many people find gross and disgusting in the title, then you would probably see me complaining about it.
I don’t judge . Live and let live. Life is too short. As long as it’s legal who cares what consenting adults do
👊
 
Civility lasted what..2-3 days. Tried to read through a couple threads here tonight.

Things are right back in the crapper.
It’s sad I agree.

We should just ignore posts that don’t deal directly with political issues.

We should just ignore posts that don’t deal directly with political issues.

Unless of course, they involve "fisting" which has seemed to have gotten the FBG's Seal Of Approval for a thread tile.

I seriously just don't get what is going on with this site anymore.
Gross man, be better if you come back.

It is obvious that powers that be must approve of this inappropriate, offensive and intentionally misleading thread title because they have allowed to up remain for four days and I don't understand why.

There is no MAGA movement without threats and violence is such an intellectually honest thread topic but don’t see you crying about that.​


Well, if the MAGA movement thread included graphic descriptions of sex practices that many people find gross and disgusting in the title, then you would probably see me complaining about it.
I don’t judge . Live and let live. Life is too short. As long as it’s legal who cares what consenting adults do

I am not judging. I don't care what consenting adults do either if it is legal, I just don't want to have this terminology in my face every time I visit this forum (we can ignore posters but not threads). The thread title could be changed to something less graphic and not offensive and IMO that should have done by now.
 
I am not judging. I don't care what consenting adults do either if it is legal, I just don't want to have this terminology in my face every time I visit this forum (we can ignore posters but not threads). The thread title could be changed to something less graphic and not offensive and IMO that should have done by now.
It's not hard to skip over threads.
 
Civility lasted what..2-3 days. Tried to read through a couple threads here tonight.

Things are right back in the crapper.
It’s sad I agree.

We should just ignore posts that don’t deal directly with political issues.

We should just ignore posts that don’t deal directly with political issues.

Unless of course, they involve "fisting" which has seemed to have gotten the FBG's Seal Of Approval for a thread tile.

I seriously just don't get what is going on with this site anymore.
Gross man, be better if you come back.

It is obvious that powers that be must approve of this inappropriate, offensive and intentionally misleading thread title because they have allowed to up remain for four days and I don't understand why.

There is no MAGA movement without threats and violence is such an intellectually honest thread topic but don’t see you crying about that.​


Well, if the MAGA movement thread included graphic descriptions of sex practices that many people find gross and disgusting in the title, then you would probably see me complaining about it.
I don’t judge . Live and let live. Life is too short. As long as it’s legal who cares what consenting adults do
Actually I know you mean this. And it’s one reason why, despite my strong disagreement with you on a variety of issues, I still have strong respect for you, HT.

(Also you have excellent taste in football teams and sometimes, rarely, in music.)
 
Some of the worst shtick here is the anti-alias cops turning alias cops when they think it's somebody from the other team. :lol:
Oh? It's some of my favorite.

The worst is guy who has no opinions, just likes to complain about other posters.
Board cops who complain about board cops...and yes, definitely a few that never take a stance on anything, just all criticial of other people non-stop.
 
The worst is guy who has no opinions, just likes to complain about other posters.
The waterboys aren't talented enough to make the cut but, despite their lack of skills, the coach lets them hang around to hydrate the real players with likes and emojis.
Sadly for you most wouldn’t waste their time on the types that hide in a one sided echo chamber repeating the same weak talking points. The good news is you found a role with Tim. Don’t let him down! 😂
 
Some of the worst shtick here is the anti-alias cops turning alias cops when they think it's somebody from the other team. :lol:
How about guy that assigns sides to posters hit claims he’s always in the middle?

Or guy that claims to ignore 40 posters but responds to them all the time.

Those are my favorites

The guys that defend every liberal and liberal policy 24/7 but criticize every conservative or conservative policy 24/7: "I'm Independent!".

The guys that vote Democrat all of their life but once voted for a Republican 30 years ago for School Board: "I'm an Independent!!".

The guys that always claim Republicans are the worst and are evil but once said that they didn't like the choice of shoes Joe Biden chose for the day: "See? I criticize Democrats too! I'm an Independent!!".

Yeah, we call those guys PSF Independents™. Liberals who are trying fool people into thinking they are fair, balanced and unbiased towards both parties but are just liberals thru and thru.
 
The guys that defend every liberal and liberal policy 24/7 but criticize every conservative or conservative policy 24/7: "I'm Independent!".

The guys that vote Democrat all of their life but once voted for a Republican 30 years ago for School Board: "I'm an Independent!!".

The guys that always claim Republicans are the worst and are evil but once said that they didn't like the choice of shoes Joe Biden chose for the day: "See? I criticize Democrats too! I'm an Independent!!".

Yeah, we call those guys PSF Independents™. Liberals who are trying fool people into thinking they are fair, balanced and unbiased towards both parties but are just liberals thru and thru.
The problem is...most of your assertions don't work with many here.

I won't call myself independent...not a democrat really, but definitely leaning left. However, I don't defend every liberal and liberal policy. Very few do. Most here have been critical of Biden on plenty of things.

Also, not sure how many long time vote Dem all their life there really are. As far as POTUS, Biden was the first Democrat I have ever voted for. Have voted both R and D in elections for governors, representatives, senators, and other local elections.

Not sure many here claim republicans are the worst and evil at all...who does that (not that you will ever really answer to any of the broad assertions you constantly make).
 
Some of the worst shtick here is the anti-alias cops turning alias cops when they think it's somebody from the other team. :lol:
How about guy that assigns sides to posters hit claims he’s always in the middle?

Or guy that claims to ignore 40 posters but responds to them all the time.

Those are my favorites

The guys that defend every liberal and liberal policy 24/7 but criticize every conservative or conservative policy 24/7: "I'm Independent!".

The guys that vote Democrat all of their life but once voted for a Republican 30 years ago for School Board: "I'm an Independent!!".

The guys that always claim Republicans are the worst and are evil but once said that they didn't like the choice of shoes Joe Biden chose for the day: "See? I criticize Democrats too! I'm an Independent!!".

Yeah, we call those guys PSF Independents™. Liberals who are trying fool people into thinking they are fair, balanced and unbiased towards both parties but are just liberals thru and thru.
Change "Democrat" to Republican" and "liberal" to "conservative" and you are describing yourself. :thumbup:
 
Some of the worst shtick here is the anti-alias cops turning alias cops when they think it's somebody from the other team. :lol:
How about guy that assigns sides to posters hit claims he’s always in the middle?

Or guy that claims to ignore 40 posters but responds to them all the time.

Those are my favorites

The guys that defend every liberal and liberal policy 24/7 but criticize every conservative or conservative policy 24/7: "I'm Independent!".

The guys that vote Democrat all of their life but once voted for a Republican 30 years ago for School Board: "I'm an Independent!!".

The guys that always claim Republicans are the worst and are evil but once said that they didn't like the choice of shoes Joe Biden chose for the day: "See? I criticize Democrats too! I'm an Independent!!".

Yeah, we call those guys PSF Independents™. Liberals who are trying fool people into thinking they are fair, balanced and unbiased towards both parties but are just liberals thru and thru.
Awesome, none of those apply to me, so thanks for verifying.

Not my fault too many view themselves as being on a team, and therefore need others to be on a team so they have someone to battle. I don't think that way, that's on you.
 

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