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HBO Series "The Night Of" (1 Viewer)

sjslacker said:
Calvin made it a point to tell Naz why he was in prison, even though Naz says he was told "never to ask" about that.  His niece was murdered by her bf (ex?) in a gruesome fashion, similar to what happen to Andrea (from episode 1).  Calvin even mentions his niece was about the same age as Andrea was, overtly calling out the similarities in their murder.  Seems like Calvin wanted revenge because he saw Naz in the same way as the guy who killed his niece.  Naz kept on trying to proclaim his innocence but Calvin didn't believe him or care.
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I agree with you that was Calvin's motivation, but I also think it's a possible that his niece's killer is the same person that murdered Andrea. 

Calvin's niece's bf/killer is probably one of Freddy's boys from the hood or Freddy knows who the real killer is. This is why Freddy has taken an interest in Nas. Freddy has an incentive to keep Nas alive so the murder can be pinned to Nas if it's one of his boys or Freddy can extort the real killer to make sure Nas takes the fall.

That's my theory. I don't see what else Omar has to gain from Nas unless he's moved on from Mexicans to Pakistanis.

 
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Charlie Harper said:
I agree with you that was Calvin's motivation, but I also think it's a possible that his niece's killer is the same person that murdered Andrea. 

Calvin's niece's bf/killer is probably one of Freddy's boys from the hood or Freddy knows who the real killer is. This is why Freddy has taken an interest in Nas. Freddy has an incentive to keep Nas alive so the murder can be pinned to Nas if it's one of his boys or Freddy can extort the real killer to make sure Nas takes the fall.

That's my theory. I don't see what else Omar has to gain from Nas unless he's moved on from Mexicans to Pakistanis.
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God, I hope that doesn't turn out to be true.

 
Caught up. Every episode has been better than the previous. Turturro is amazing.

The prison stuff I could do without just because the lawyer, investigative type stuff has been so good. Much more interested in that.

 
Yankee23Fan said:
Caught up. Every episode has been better than the previous. Turturro is amazing.

The prison stuff I could do without just because the lawyer, investigative type stuff has been so good. Much more interested in that.
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I'm the opposite.  The prison stuff has been fascinating to watch.  

 
Anyone make a case for the brother doing it yet?  That's my wife's theory, although when they first showed Nas she asked me if that was John Turturro, so take it with a grain of salt 

 
Sinn Fein said:
Not enough blood on him to have done it imo.
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There is a large block of time that he either can't remember, we haven't been shown yet for a reason, or he does remember and is acting a very good part.  I could argue your side though in that if he did clean himself up during that dark period we probably would have seen the police in the bathroom at the house and we didn't.  

I'm not married to the conclusion, I just haven't been given enough to call that possibility closed.

 
If he did it, he doesn't remember it or he wouldn't have run out like he did. He is starting to have some more memories which could lead to him remembering what really happened though.

 
jamny said:
If he did it, he doesn't remember it or he wouldn't have run out like he did. He is starting to have some more memories which could lead to him remembering what really happened though.
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I don't know.  If he did it and is evil enough to play this game to this date, thinking through looking like you are just panicking because you are the good kid who has never been in this situation before could be part of the plan.

 
Yankee23Fan said:
There is a large block of time that he either can't remember, we haven't been shown yet for a reason, or he does remember and is acting a very good part.  I could argue your side though in that if he did clean himself up during that dark period we probably would have seen the police in the bathroom at the house and we didn't.  

I'm not married to the conclusion, I just haven't been given enough to call that possibility closed.
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Shower and dry off and remove all moisture in the shower stall with tp and flush it. BAM! No evidence of a shower.

 
Dan Lambskin said:
Anyone make a case for the brother doing it yet?  That's my wife's theory, although when they first showed Nas she asked me if that was John Turturro, so take it with a grain of salt 
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Close, but I actually think that it's Pops AND the brother.  See Nas' brother woke up that night, was thirsty for cocoa.  Went downstairs and found they were out.   Well ####.  So he goes to grab the keys to the taxi  and finds them missing.  Looks out the window, no cab.  Motherf*****g Nas ain't f*****g home yet.  So he rolls back upstairs, wakes up Pops and gives him the 411 on the situation.  Pops heads to the ole laptop and pulls up the GPS location on his rolling cash machine, grabs a steak knife from the kitchen drawer (you haven't seen them eating steak since the murder, have you?) for protection because you can't trust noone to have your back on the street, a hard lesson his son is about to learn.  

Anyway they hop on the metro over to Nas's location and roll up on the brownstone just as Nas is letting that cat out.  Motherf*****g Nas, Nas' bro is all like about to shout at him and say where the #### is my ####### cocoa and Pops is like yo shut. the ####. up. I got a plan, we gonna get this motherf****r.  So they sneak in the back door and listen to Nas knocking them boots and Nas' bro is like #### that's hot but Pops rolls up the stairs kinda like a muslim jack bauer and stands at the door and is like damn this chick is ####### crazy she shouldn't be ####### no dude she just met, thats against the koran this ##### gotta die.

So they head back down and Pops is like, Nas was putting in work he gonna be thirsty, right?  Nas's brother, here you put this roofie pill in the water pitcher.  They stealth it over to the shadows and sure enough down comes Nas for a breather to get him and his baby something to drink.  He hits the fridge and grabs a gatorade cuz he's feeling lightheaded and he thinks maybe his electrolytes are low and Nas' bro is like mother***k you Pops I told you Nas aint drink no #######ed water, but then Nas looks at the label and it's like fruit punch flavor or some #### and he's like man I don't #### with ####### fruit punch flavored gatorade, this ##### can't afford no Arctic Frost™?  So he grabs the water pitcher, takes a drink, goes night night and Pops and Nas' bro roll up the stairs again.

Well Pops heads in there talkin bout you wanna find out how a real man lays it down, and turns out, she's into it and is like yo is that your other son in the corner?  He got a #### to why he not gettin in here?  So they run a train on the ##### and then Pops gets that post pop cranial clarity and is like yo, Nas's brother, this #### is ####ed up, if moms finds out she is gonna be PISSED.  This ##### got to go and I'm sorry but Nas gots to take the hit on this one, don't worry though we're muslim so I'm sure some high profile lawyer will take the case pro bono and Nas will be out in 12 to 15.  So they get to work, throw blood on the walls and ####, shower up, give Nas a little pat on the back like, sorry bro, and peace out on the metro.  So anyway once that detective decides to go back and look at the mac book pro from the living room he gonna see the GPS search and #### is gonna blow the #### up, guaranteed.  

That's how I see it anyway.

 
Yankee23Fan said:
I don't know.  If he did it and is evil enough to play this game to this date, thinking through looking like you are just panicking because you are the good kid who has never been in this situation before could be part of the plan.
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We saw him wake up in the kitchen and totally freak out when he saw her.

 
The killer is definitely someone we have seen on the show already.  I think the stepfather is a red herring, as they are making it a point to make him look like a loose cannon from the funeral scene and his flip-flopping on the pictures he saw when questioned by the police.  He definitely is a hot head, but I highly doubt he is person who actually killed Andrea.  

I think it could be either one of the two guys that harassed Nas on the street, but leaning towards the guy they ended up taking in for questioning.  These guys were definitely not from the neighborhood, and could be connected to Freddy somehow.

The only other people I can think of is the guy who called in the break-in.  He seemed to watching pretty intently from his window that night and not sure you hear someone breaking a window across the street, while you are fast asleep.  The other guy would be the guy at the gas station with the hearse vehicle.  He seemed to follow them when they left, but the camera didn't really pan back on his car after that.  

 
Gustavo Fring said:
The killer is definitely someone we have seen on the show already.  I think the stepfather is a red herring, as they are making it a point to make him look like a loose cannon from the funeral scene and his flip-flopping on the pictures he saw when questioned by the police.  He definitely is a hot head, but I highly doubt he is person who actually killed Andrea.  

I think it could be either one of the two guys that harassed Nas on the street, but leaning towards the guy they ended up taking in for questioning.  These guys were definitely not from the neighborhood, and could be connected to Freddy somehow.

The only other people I can think of is the guy who called in the break-in.  He seemed to watching pretty intently from his window that night and not sure you hear someone breaking a window across the street, while you are fast asleep.  The other guy would be the guy at the gas station with the hearse vehicle.  He seemed to follow them when they left, but the camera didn't really pan back on his car after that.  
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I saw a flash in the E5 preview where they're reviewing tape from the gas station, if he doesn't come up then I think he gets ruled out at that point, or we learn more.

 
All these alternative suspect scenarios make me not want any of them to be true. There just isn't enough built around them yet to make for a good conclusion, so I hope they get a move on that quickly if that's what they had planned. If they spend 7.5 episodes telling Nas' story and then somewhere in the final hour we get a hazy image of Bodie's friend killing her with virtually no other development around him, I'd rather they just didn't bother. 

 
Apple Jack said:
Shower and dry off and remove all moisture in the shower stall with tp and flush it. BAM! No evidence of a shower.
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They swabbed his winkus, presumably there is evidence of intercourse with the victim.

A shower would wash that off with the blood. If there is sexy time evidence, that would (in my mind) clear him of the murder. 

 
Rewatched the first two episodes yesterday... noticed that Nas is left-handed during a scene from his calculus class. Perhaps this proves useful later on.

 
Tom Skerritt said:
Rewatched the first two episodes yesterday... noticed that Nas is left-handed during a scene from his calculus class. Perhaps this proves useful later on.
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Only if Stone "unexpectedly" tosses Naz a ball, right after establishing the killer was right-handed during a cross-examination...

 
Why do I get this feeling that cat Stone brought in to animal control will play a role in proving his innocence? Just a stupid hunch. 

I have no idea who did it.....I am just enjoying the ride. The show is incredibly well written and the acting is top notch. Too bad it is only an 8 episode one and done mini series.

But sometimes those are the best (Band Of Brothers all time best HBO series and only in one glorious season).

 
The cat did it.

"You roll into my house and get her to throw me out?  I'll show you mother####er."

 
Anyone think Naz doesn't live to see the end of the show?  Someone mentioned that to me yesterday,  I don't see it at all.

 
Gustavo Fring said:
The other guy would be the guy at the gas station with the hearse vehicle.  He seemed to follow them when they left, but the camera didn't really pan back on his car after that.  
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I think he has to be involved. He knocked on the window and said something like "you don't want to be my next passenger" or something close to that. Was he just being racist because she was with a Muslim or does he know more about her? 

 
Billy Bats said:
I think he has to be involved. He knocked on the window and said something like "you don't want to be my next passenger" or something close to that. Was he just being racist because she was with a Muslim or does he know more about her? 
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I think it was because she was smoking.

 
Billy Bats said:
I think he has to be involved. He knocked on the window and said something like "you don't want to be my next passenger" or something close to that. Was he just being racist because she was with a Muslim or does he know more about her? 
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I thought it was just because she was smoking.

I think it will come back to when she said she did not want to be alone that night - or some such thing.  She was already in trouble before she ever met Naz.

 
PIK95 said:
Anyone think Naz doesn't live to see the end of the show?  Someone mentioned that to me yesterday,  I don't see it at all.
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I doubt it, but I could totally see the gut punch of him being acquited, going back home, and in the final moments being killed by a friend or partner in crime of someone from jail that hated him.  Shakespeare type stuff.

 
Sinn Fein said:
I thought it was just because she was smoking.

I think it will come back to when she said she did not want to be alone that night - or some such thing.  She was already in trouble before she ever met Naz.
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Yah she was smoking and flicked a lit(?) butt out of the window in a gas station. 

 
Ohhh ok, didn't remember the cigarette at all. Explains it more than some random dude asking her that question. Thanks. 

 
Someone she knew did it. That much is certain.

The cat being let out....she forget to lock that door. There was no signs of any forced entry....accept when Naz made that stupid (one of many stupid) decision to smash the front door glass to get back into the house. The killer got in either through that door, or they already had a key (family member). I am locked in on the step dad and whomever he was arguing with at the funeral. 

He would have been covered in blood if he had murdered her. There was blood splattered everywhere on the wall, bed...crazy amount of blood. It does not add up and the lead detective knows it. He knows in his heart something is very off. 

I think his alliance in prison is one of survival. The motive of his protector is one of higher learning. He thinks Naz can teach him. 

I am looking forward to this case being tried by both the young Indian girl and Stone working together.  Stone is more of a Private Detective now and gathering evidence to help get Naz exonerated of the charges.

 
Todem said:
Someone she knew did it. That much is certain.

The cat being let out....she forget to lock that door. There was no signs of any forced entry....accept when Naz made that stupid (one of many stupid) decision to smash the front door glass to get back into the house. The killer got in either through that door, or they already had a key (family member). I am locked in on the step dad and whomever he was arguing with at the funeral. 

He would have been covered in blood if he had murdered her. There was blood splattered everywhere on the wall, bed...crazy amount of blood. It does not add up and the lead detective knows it. He knows in his heart something is very off. 

I think his alliance in prison is one of survival. The motive of his protector is one of higher learning. He thinks Naz can teach him. 

I am looking forward to this case being tried by both the young Indian girl and Stone working together.  Stone is more of a Private Detective now and gathering evidence to help get Naz exonerated of the charges.
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Plus doesn't the step dad ride a motorcycle?  Didn't a motorcycle pull up next to Nas at the red light and then take off right before Nas made the illegal left that got him pulled over?

 
Todem said:
Someone she knew did it. That much is certain.

The cat being let out....she forget to lock that door. There was no signs of any forced entry....accept when Naz made that stupid (one of many stupid) decision to smash the front door glass to get back into the house. The killer got in either through that door, or they already had a key (family member). I am locked in on the step dad and whomever he was arguing with at the funeral. 

He would have been covered in blood if he had murdered her. There was blood splattered everywhere on the wall, bed...crazy amount of blood. It does not add up and the lead detective knows it. He knows in his heart something is very off. 

I think his alliance in prison is one of survival. The motive of his protector is one of higher learning. He thinks Naz can teach him. 

I am looking forward to this case being tried by both the young Indian girl and Stone working together.  Stone is more of a Private Detective now and gathering evidence to help get Naz exonerated of the charges.
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This would be interesting, but not realistic. 

 
I'll finish this but it's not very good.  Wouldn't recommend. Too much other good stuff out there.

25% of the show is literally about Turturro's feet.  That is not an exaggeration.  Their is more suspense to whether his eczema get's cleared than Naz.

 
Daywalker said:
I'll finish this but it's not very good.  Wouldn't recommend. Too much other good stuff out there.

25% of the show is literally about Turturro's feet.  That is not an exaggeration.  Their is more suspense to whether his eczema get's cleared than Naz.
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I'm enjoying it much more than you but this is a fair criticism. I just don't get it. If it's supposed to warm us to the character, it accomplished that within the first episode so I think we're ready to move on. If it somehow ties into the case, :eyeroll:. We'll see. 

 
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Daywalker said:
I'll finish this but it's not very good.  Wouldn't recommend. Too much other good stuff out there.

25% of the show is literally about Turturro's feet.  That is not an exaggeration.  Their is more suspense to whether his eczema get's cleared than Naz.
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Show your work.

 
Daywalker said:
I'll finish this but it's not very good.  Wouldn't recommend. Too much other good stuff out there.

25% of the show is literally about Turturro's feet.  That is not an exaggeration.  Their is more suspense to whether his eczema get's cleared than Naz.
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It is literally a huge exaggeration.

 
Naz, Turturro then Turturro's feet would probably be top 3 for screen time.

We even got treated to a scene with a support group for skin diseases.  Every Turturro scene involves his jacked up feet.  This is insane.

 
2 scenes at the dermatologist.  

Scene buying ointment at store.

Scene with pharmacist.

2 scenes on the subway.  Lady gets grossed out and moves away.  Another him just itching.

2 scenes with the guard at the metal detector.  "I know they look like subway sandwiches."

2 different scenes with him wrapping his feet with saran wrap.

Scene at support group for skin diseases.

Prostitute being freaked out seeing all his skin disease products in the bathroom.

His foot problem has been brought up with every character upon meeting them.  As well as listening to his feet squish whenever he walks.

 
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