HBO - Song of Ice&Fire Series -Varsity Thread - no TV only whiners (3 Viewers)

[jdoggydogg]

Really really really dumb question which I think I know the answer too. This fake land is supposed to take place on a planet other than Earth? Cuz they talk about summers and winters lasting for 5 years.

Yes.

 

[jdoggydogg]

The new Thrones podcast launched a couple of days ago. Not spectacular, but it's fun to listen to if you're a fan:

A Cast of Kings - A Game of Thrones Podcast

 

[jamny]

One last question:

The group going north of the wall is a standard thing, not a special mission?

Beside Jon looking for his uncle.

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

question for the book guys.The whole Fire sword on the beach ceremony, seemed a little weak to me.What was the point that you set a sword on fire and stick it in the dirt? whats that suppose to symbolize?

ya, I thought that scene was pretty whole thing was cheesy imo (but I can live with it).

 

[Socrates11]

One last question:The group going north of the wall is a standard thing, not a special mission?Beside Jon looking for his uncle.

I believe scouting parties are standard (5 or so guys), but a large group with the Lord Commander qualifies as a special mission.

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

One last question:The group going north of the wall is a standard thing, not a special mission?Beside Jon looking for his uncle.

the Night's Watch would do "rangings" to scout, keep the wildlings in check, ect.What they have done now is much more substantial in number and scope. They are going out to lay waste to the growing Wildling army before it can lay waste to them.ETA:The prologue in Episode 1, the very first scene, is a good example of a ranging.

 

[jamny]

One last question:The group going north of the wall is a standard thing, not a special mission?Beside Jon looking for his uncle.

I believe scouting parties are standard (5 or so guys), but a large group with the Lord Commander qualifies as a special mission.

Has it been made clear what that is at this point?

 

[jamny]

One last question:The group going north of the wall is a standard thing, not a special mission?Beside Jon looking for his uncle.

the Night's Watch would do "rangings" to scout, keep the wildlings in check, ect.What they have done now is much more substantial in number and scope. They are going out to lay waste to the growing Wildling army before it can lay waste to them.ETA:The prologue in Episode 1, the very first scene, is a good example of a ranging.

I think I'm up to speed on all the storylines now...thx!

 

[Socrates11]

One last question:The group going north of the wall is a standard thing, not a special mission?Beside Jon looking for his uncle.

I believe scouting parties are standard (5 or so guys), but a large group with the Lord Commander qualifies as a special mission.

Has it been made clear what that is at this point?

They just dealt with the snow zombies and were hearing reports about Wildlings massing for war. Mormont decided it was time to be pro-active rather than reactive.

 

[Major]

Was it just me, or was Daenerys having a hard time making eye contact with the CGI dragon?

very much so

When I first read these comments I wasn't sure what you guys were talking about. After seeing the episode a 2nd time, I get it. When I watched it the first time it never crossed my mind that she was even trying to look at the dragon in those scenes, I just thought she was looking at something off to her left outside the frame - that's how poorly executed that was.

It's not a good idea to some animals. You can be viewed as a threat.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

question for the book guys.The whole Fire sword on the beach ceremony, seemed a little weak to me.What was the point that you set a sword on fire and stick it in the dirt? whats that suppose to symbolize?

ya, I thought that scene was pretty whole thing was cheesy imo (but I can live with it).

felt like Conan or something. they could of improved it, I mean is that sword supposed to be a magical sword or something? Or was it just symbolism? Could only stannis have pulled the sword from the fire?

 

[sn0mm1s]

question for the book guys.The whole Fire sword on the beach ceremony, seemed a little weak to me.What was the point that you set a sword on fire and stick it in the dirt? whats that suppose to symbolize?

ya, I thought that scene was pretty whole thing was cheesy imo (but I can live with it).

felt like Conan or something. they could of improved it, I mean is that sword supposed to be a magical sword or something? Or was it just symbolism? Could only stannis have pulled the sword from the fire?

Spoiler

In the books the flames are never supposed to die out.

 

[TLEF316]

Why is Sam with the party north of the Wall? He can't fight and he's supposed to be maester aemons assistant

 

[Mjolnirs]

She has nothing to invade with.

Dragons

True, but right now they are about the size of small dogs. I'm sure they will grow rapidly in the coming episodes though.I truly love that something I've read and like so much, has become such a hit and is finding new viewers and readers.(I wish this would have happened with Disney's poorly promoted John Carter movie )

 

[Ilov80s]

Why is Sam with the party north of the Wall? He can't fight and he's supposed to be maester aemons assistant

You heard what Ser Allister Thorne said last year, they could last a fortnight on a fat boy like him and still have bones for soup.

 

[Socrates11]

Why is Sam with the party north of the Wall? He can't fight and he's supposed to be maester aemons assistant

He cares for the ravens and uses them to send status reports.

 

[sn0mm1s]

Why is Sam with the party north of the Wall? He can't fight and he's supposed to be maester aemons assistant

He is taking care of the ravens and communication with Castle Black.

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

Why is Sam with the party north of the Wall? He can't fight and he's supposed to be maester aemons assistant

he's in charge of the Ravens. I think there was dialogue in the book with Sam asking the same question you are asking. Why me?

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

oops

 

[Drifter]

Thanks for the clarification...that's who I meant.

It just seemed like a much larger group following Drogo.

Thanks for the reply!

Those werent Targaerians. I forgot what they were called now

She has nothing to invade with.

Dragons

That was Drogo's Dothraki Khallasar. She ended up with mainly the dregs sticking with her, I think along with some of the lamb people whose town they had just wiped out.

IIRC, they are all the lamb people except for a few of her personal bodyguard from Drogo's crew.

 

[Marvin]

Anybody know who is in charge of the ravens for the Night's Watch?

 

[EYLive]

You heard what Ser Allister Thorne said last year, they could last a fortnight on a fat boy like him and still have bones for soup.

He cares for the ravens and uses them to send status reports.

He is taking care of the ravens and communication with Castle Black.

he's in charge of the Ravens. I think there was dialogue in the book with Sam asking the same question you are asking. Why me?

And he's good with maps.

 

[EYLive]

Anybody know who is in charge of the ravens for the Night's Watch?

 

[Chadstroma]

Peter Drinklage knocks every scene he is in out of the park.

His reaction to Cersie saying that they only had one Stark child is priceless. So perfect

Yea it was. The role is allowing him to show some major talent.

 

[EYLive]

Thanks for the clarification...that's who I meant.

It just seemed like a much larger group following Drogo.

Thanks for the reply!

Those werent Targaerians. I forgot what they were called now

She has nothing to invade with.

Dragons

That was Drogo's Dothraki Khallasar. She ended up with mainly the dregs sticking with her, I think along with some of the lamb people whose town they had just wiped out.

IIRC, they are all the lamb people except for a few of her personal bodyguard from Drogo's crew.

I was under the impression that they were old, weak and sick Dothraki. With just one of the lamb girls staying on as an assistant when her people were freed.

 

[SeveredHorseHeads]

Peter Drinklage knocks every scene he is in out of the park.

His reaction to Cersie saying that they only had one Stark child is priceless. So perfect

Yea it was. The role is allowing him to show some major talent.

He's pretty much born for this role."Yes, it is a bit corpsey..."

 

[TeamDingo]

Anybody know who is in charge of the ravens for the Night's Watch?

Clydas.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

question for the book guys.The whole Fire sword on the beach ceremony, seemed a little weak to me.What was the point that you set a sword on fire and stick it in the dirt? whats that suppose to symbolize?

ya, I thought that scene was pretty whole thing was cheesy imo (but I can live with it).

felt like Conan or something. they could of improved it, I mean is that sword supposed to be a magical sword or something? Or was it just symbolism? Could only stannis have pulled the sword from the fire?

Spoiler

In the books the flames are never supposed to die out.

Yes, but

Spoiler

It is also pretty apparent that the sword is a fraud in the books based on Maester Aemon and the lack of heat. I think there were other doubters of the sword as well based on the heat factor IIRC. And Mel uses all kinds of powders etc. that she has up her sleeves. Now, there obviously is some type of magic that these red priests are capable of based on the shadow babies, kiss of life, and whatever Victarion had done to him, but they also seem to be false prophets at the same time. I don't know what to think of the lord of the light and his minions just yet.

 

[sn0mm1s]

question for the book guys.The whole Fire sword on the beach ceremony, seemed a little weak to me.What was the point that you set a sword on fire and stick it in the dirt? whats that suppose to symbolize?

ya, I thought that scene was pretty whole thing was cheesy imo (but I can live with it).

felt like Conan or something. they could of improved it, I mean is that sword supposed to be a magical sword or something? Or was it just symbolism? Could only stannis have pulled the sword from the fire?

Spoiler

In the books the flames are never supposed to die out.

Yes, but

Spoiler

It is also pretty apparent that the sword is a fraud in the books based on Maester Aemon and the lack of heat. I think there were other doubters of the sword as well based on the heat factor IIRC. And Mel uses all kinds of powders etc. that she has up her sleeves. Now, there obviously is some type of magic that these red priests are capable of based on the shadow babies, kiss of life, and whatever Victarion had done to him, but they also seem to be false prophets at the same time. I don't know what to think of the lord of the light and his minions just yet.

Sure, but that doesn't change what I posted and how the show is different from the books in that regard.

Spoiler

In the books the sword is *supposed* to be extremely bright - not just normal looking flames.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

question for the book guys.The whole Fire sword on the beach ceremony, seemed a little weak to me.What was the point that you set a sword on fire and stick it in the dirt? whats that suppose to symbolize?

ya, I thought that scene was pretty whole thing was cheesy imo (but I can live with it).

felt like Conan or something. they could of improved it, I mean is that sword supposed to be a magical sword or something? Or was it just symbolism? Could only stannis have pulled the sword from the fire?

Spoiler

In the books the flames are never supposed to die out.

Spoiler

Yes, butIt is also pretty apparent that the sword is a fraud in the books based on Maester Aemon and the lack of heat. I think there were other doubters of the sword as well based on the heat factor IIRC. And Mel uses all kinds of powders etc. that she has up her sleeves. Now, there obviously is some type of magic that these red priests are capable of based on the shadow babies, kiss of life, and whatever Victarion had done to him, but they also seem to be false prophets at the same time. I don't know what to think of the lord of the light and his minions just yet.

Sure, but that doesn't change what I posted and how the show is different from the books in that regard.

Spoiler

In the books the sword is *supposed* to be extremely bright - not just normal looking flames.

I thought it was really weird in the show actually that A) the flame went out and B) Stannis left the sword there. Maybe they are getting away from the literal Lightbringer?

 

[shader]

Is it controversial to say that this series is better than the Lord of the Rings films? A lot better.

Not to me. And the tone and adult themes are what the Star Wars prequels should have been.

Star Wars??? Seriously? I think what happened was that you (and millions of other people) watched the original Star Wars when you were kids, then watched the prequels when you were adults and forgot that the appeal of Star Wars was mainly to kids and teenagers in the 70's. I don't know many 60 year olds that love Star Wars. And they were in their 20's and 30's when it originally came out.It was a movie for young people when it started and remains that way.Game of Thrones is an entirely different genre.

 

[shader]

Is it controversial to say that this series is better than the Lord of the Rings films? A lot better.

Nothing wrong with speaking the truth.

Here's what got me thinking about this. An acquaintance on Facebook posted this in one of my Game of Thrones threads: "Actually, I am going to disagree with you. Except for the performance of Peter Dinklage, I found it quite ordinary - a routine melodrama dressed up in a pseudo-middle ages fantasy."

I thought about de-friending her for saying such stupid ####

Did she watch season 1? The first episode of this season was rather boring. There are so many characters they are trying to get around to, that it moved around a bunch and kind of "set the stage" for the rest of the season.I can see why a new viewer wouldn't have been overly impressed.

 

[Major]

Is it controversial to say that this series is better than the Lord of the Rings films? A lot better.

Nothing wrong with speaking the truth.

Here's what got me thinking about this. An acquaintance on Facebook posted this in one of my Game of Thrones threads: "Actually, I am going to disagree with you. Except for the performance of Peter Dinklage, I found it quite ordinary - a routine melodrama dressed up in a pseudo-middle ages fantasy."

I thought about de-friending her for saying such stupid ####

Did she watch season 1? The first episode of this season was rather boring. There are so many characters they are trying to get around to, that it moved around a bunch and kind of "set the stage" for the rest of the season.I can see why a new viewer wouldn't have been overly impressed.

I watched the first episode and fell asleep after 30 minutes. I didn't give it a chance when it aired, much like The Wire. Finally invested myself for more than an episode and was . This twitter generation has no patience for plot building and character development.

 

[chet]

Anybody know who is in charge of the ravens for the Night's Watch?

Why is this funny?

 

[chet]

Do they eventually reveal what happens to Caster's sons? (The dude that marries his daughters.)

No reason for a spoiler--yes or no will suffice.

 

[Ilov80s]

Do they eventually reveal what happens to Caster's sons? (The dude that marries his daughters.) No reason for a spoiler--yes or no will suffice.

Idk,but I just assumed they got killed...maybe eaten too

 

[EYLive]

question for the book guys.The whole Fire sword on the beach ceremony, seemed a little weak to me.What was the point that you set a sword on fire and stick it in the dirt? whats that suppose to symbolize?

ya, I thought that scene was pretty whole thing was cheesy imo (but I can live with it).

felt like Conan or something. they could of improved it, I mean is that sword supposed to be a magical sword or something? Or was it just symbolism? Could only stannis have pulled the sword from the fire?

Spoiler

In the books the flames are never supposed to die out.

Yes, but

Spoiler

It is also pretty apparent that the sword is a fraud in the books based on Maester Aemon and the lack of heat. I think there were other doubters of the sword as well based on the heat factor IIRC. And Mel uses all kinds of powders etc. that she has up her sleeves. Now, there obviously is some type of magic that these red priests are capable of based on the shadow babies, kiss of life, and whatever Victarion had done to him, but they also seem to be false prophets at the same time. I don't know what to think of the lord of the light and his minions just yet.

Spoiler

I'm not sure if the prophesies are true. But we know that Thoros of Myr used wildfire to create his flaming green swords, so it could just be a parlor trick for those in attendance.

 

[EYLive]

Do they eventually reveal what happens to Caster's sons? (The dude that marries his daughters.) No reason for a spoiler--yes or no will suffice.

Yes. It was mentioned in the books but the show will likely skip over any detailed explanation.

 

[sn0mm1s]

Anybody know who is in charge of the ravens for the Night's Watch?

Why is this funny?

Scroll up a bit from Marvin's post and you will see.

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

question for the book guys.The whole Fire sword on the beach ceremony, seemed a little weak to me.What was the point that you set a sword on fire and stick it in the dirt? whats that suppose to symbolize?

ya, I thought that scene was pretty whole thing was cheesy imo (but I can live with it).

felt like Conan or something. they could of improved it, I mean is that sword supposed to be a magical sword or something? Or was it just symbolism? Could only stannis have pulled the sword from the fire?

Spoiler

In the books the flames are never supposed to die out.

Spoiler

Yes, butIt is also pretty apparent that the sword is a fraud in the books based on Maester Aemon and the lack of heat. I think there were other doubters of the sword as well based on the heat factor IIRC. And Mel uses all kinds of powders etc. that she has up her sleeves. Now, there obviously is some type of magic that these red priests are capable of based on the shadow babies, kiss of life, and whatever Victarion had done to him, but they also seem to be false prophets at the same time. I don't know what to think of the lord of the light and his minions just yet.

Spoiler

I'm not sure if the prophesies are true. But we know that Thoros of Myr used wildfire to create his flaming green swords, so it could just be a parlor trick for those in attendance.

or a mummers farce...

 

[Gr00vus]

Do they eventually reveal what happens to Caster's sons? (The dude that marries his daughters.) No reason for a spoiler--yes or no will suffice.

Yes. It was mentioned in the books but the show will likely skip over any detailed explanation.

I have to believe they'll give some explanation - they aren't going to just leave that one hanging out there.

 

[kupcho1]

I read the books after season one so it's a totally different perspective for me this season. I find myself being more critical of some of the choices they made be it casting(Some mentioned above)or story related(see below). Also in some instances it seemed less "real" and more like people reading lines to me(Sansa especially).

The story for example, I though Maester Cressen should have had a little more back story. They didn't get across how important he was to Stanis, it would have given more weight to his sacrifice. Also thought the Roz part came off as very cheesy. Osha's constant head tilting when she talks is making her character a bit grading to watch.

Mostly just nit picky stuff, it was still very good, just interesting how the perspective totally changed.

For Christ's sake, you're named after CHEESE, you should know it's grating.

 

[Chadstroma]

I read the books after season one so it's a totally different perspective for me this season. I find myself being more critical of some of the choices they made be it casting(Some mentioned above)or story related(see below). Also in some instances it seemed less "real" and more like people reading lines to me(Sansa especially).

The story for example, I though Maester Cressen should have had a little more back story. They didn't get across how important he was to Stanis, it would have given more weight to his sacrifice. Also thought the Roz part came off as very cheesy. Osha's constant head tilting when she talks is making her character a bit grading to watch.

Mostly just nit picky stuff, it was still very good, just interesting how the perspective totally changed.

For Christ's sake, you're named after CHEESE, you should know it's grating.

 

[gump]

That was Drogo's Dothraki Khallasar. She ended up with mainly the dregs sticking with her, I think along with some of the lamb people whose town they had just wiped out.

IIRC, they are all the lamb people except for a few of her personal bodyguard from Drogo's crew.

So who was the last scout that Dany stopped, and called 'blood of my blood', or something like that? Seemed like he was Drogo's brother.

 

[Joseph]

That was Drogo's Dothraki Khallasar. She ended up with mainly the dregs sticking with her, I think along with some of the lamb people whose town they had just wiped out.

IIRC, they are all the lamb people except for a few of her personal bodyguard from Drogo's crew.

So who was the last scout that Dany stopped, and called 'blood of my blood', or something like that? Seemed like he was Drogo's brother.

One of her blood riders. I think they were the about the only warriors who stayed with her after the rest of the Khallasar left. She refers to all three of them that way throughout the books.

 

[Stoneys]

That was Drogo's Dothraki Khallasar. She ended up with mainly the dregs sticking with her, I think along with some of the lamb people whose town they had just wiped out.

IIRC, they are all the lamb people except for a few of her personal bodyguard from Drogo's crew.

So who was the last scout that Dany stopped, and called 'blood of my blood', or something like that? Seemed like he was Drogo's brother.

One of her blood riders. I think they were the about the only warriors who stayed with her after the rest of the Khallasar left. She refers to all three of them that way throughout the books.

Rakharo, Aggo and Jhogo are Dany's bloodriders. And I think it was Rakharo was the last one she spoke with.

 

[gump]

Aha...thanks.

 

[Socrates11]

That was Drogo's Dothraki Khallasar. She ended up with mainly the dregs sticking with her, I think along with some of the lamb people whose town they had just wiped out.

IIRC, they are all the lamb people except for a few of her personal bodyguard from Drogo's crew.

So who was the last scout that Dany stopped, and called 'blood of my blood', or something like that? Seemed like he was Drogo's brother.

One of her blood riders. I think they were the about the only warriors who stayed with her after the rest of the Khallasar left. She refers to all three of them that way throughout the books.

Rakharo, Aggo and Jhogo are Dany's bloodriders. And I think it was Rakharo was the last one she spoke with.

IIRC, they are tied to their Khal/Khalleesi until death (and they have to die with them?). Hence the reason they didn't take off with everyone else.

 

[EYLive]

That was Drogo's Dothraki Khallasar. She ended up with mainly the dregs sticking with her, I think along with some of the lamb people whose town they had just wiped out.

IIRC, they are all the lamb people except for a few of her personal bodyguard from Drogo's crew.

So who was the last scout that Dany stopped, and called 'blood of my blood', or something like that? Seemed like he was Drogo's brother.

One of her blood riders. I think they were the about the only warriors who stayed with her after the rest of the Khallasar left. She refers to all three of them that way throughout the books.

Rakharo, Aggo and Jhogo are Dany's bloodriders. And I think it was Rakharo was the last one she spoke with.

IIRC, they are tied to their Khal/Khalleesi until death (and they have to die with them?). Hence the reason they didn't take off with everyone else.

I think only a khal has bloodriders. A khal's widow returns to Vas Dothrak to be silent sister type thing. These 3 stuck with Dany only after she gave them her wedding gifts (sword, whip and bow) and emerged with baby dragons.

 

[Pick]

Fan of the books forever. Don't have HBO but on vacay and watched an episode. Was good and then hard core porn out of the blue. Is this normal for this series?