HBO - Song of Ice&Fire Series -Varsity Thread - no TV only whiners (2 Viewers)

[Bigboy10182000]

Has anyone here watched Game of Thrones first, and THEN started reading the books? Is it worth it if you've seen the show?

I did (saw season 1 before reading). Definitely worth it. Season 1 of the show was great, but I find the books to be even better. Season 2 of the show has been a bit of a let down so far, I find the book appreciably better in this case.

I honestly don't read. Have tried many times and only enjoyed a few books.I mean this with all due respect to any one that enjoys reading and this genre BUT...Are the books written like LOTR? Is it very, flowery and wordy? I'm loving the series but was curious if the books are a "difficult" read?

I think there are 2 things that make the books "difficult" to read.1) The POV aspect of each chapter. I really like this and think its great. But more and more I find myself wondering what that particular character was doing when I last read a chapter of theirs.2) The amount of characters. Its just so much to keep track of that I had to take a break after book 3 because the beginning of book 4 is even more characters being added. Reading on a kindle is a little tougher too, because its not easy to flip to the map or the glossary to check out the characters and how their families are related.

I actually LOVE the POV aspect and I do agree that at times I have to flip back to see where the person ended if there's a large gap in between chapters.I also agree that there seems to be a LOT of names but I typically read the book and have my iPhone handy and the Wiki of Fire and Ice page up for a quick referance. I dont really bother with the map much.

 

[Uruk-Hai]

Has anyone here watched Game of Thrones first, and THEN started reading the books? Is it worth it if you've seen the show?

I did (saw season 1 before reading). Definitely worth it. Season 1 of the show was great, but I find the books to be even better. Season 2 of the show has been a bit of a let down so far, I find the book appreciably better in this case.

I honestly don't read. Have tried many times and only enjoyed a few books.I mean this with all due respect to any one that enjoys reading and this genre BUT...

Are the books written like LOTR? Is it very, flowery and wordy? I'm loving the series but was curious if the books are a "difficult" read?

Dude loves to describe in excruciating detail food and clothing. If you can get by that and realize that you don't need to remember about 90% of the names thrown around in the books you'll be fine.

I am seriously anal about keeping everyone straight while I'm reading and I found myself constantly going to the glossary in these books first time I read them, which took away a bit from the experience. I finally figured out that you don't need to know (or be able to keep straight) the bulk of them. But the glossaries are helpful. One thing to remember about them - the tell you about the character as he/she is at the beginning of whatever book you're reading so you're not likely to be spoiled.

 

[=Smackdown=]

Episode 10 Valar Morghulis synopsis:

The aftermath of the Battle of the Blackwater sees the winner reward his followers while Tyrion finds himself in a strange situation. In Winterfell, Maester Luwin has some final advice for Theon. In Harrenhall, Jaqen H'ghar gives Arya a gift, and Dany visits a wondrous place in Qarth. Beyond the Wall, Jon Snow pleases Qhorin with his actions.

The episode 10 synopsis strongly indicates the HotU is in the finale. Also this website indicates that the season finale is 64 minutes while Blackwater is 57 minutes, making these two episodes the longest of the season.

 

[shadyridr]

'Game of Thrones” is bucking to be the one with the battle scene to beat for all future TV series.

This Sunday, HBO debuts “GoT’s” highly-anticipated “Blackwater” episode — the brutal battle that the fantasy series has been barreling towards since Season 2 premiered last month.

Fans denied a big battle sequence last season, due to budgetary constraints, are all abuzz about the upcoming epic battle.

“The whole of the book [‘A Clash of Kings’] is building to this major battle,” says Elio M. Garcia, Jr., co-founder of Westeros.org, a fansite dedicated to George R.R. Martin’s books, on which the series is based.

AT RISK: King Joffrey’s Iron Throne is at stake during this week’s battle scene.

“The actual battle in the book goes over several chapters . . . It’s the biggest battle we have in the series to date and [it’s] five books in.”

Although Garcia hasn’t seen the episode himself, “I know people who have [seen it] and they told me it’s incredible,” he says.

“ ‘Like nothing they’d ever seen before on television,’ is the phrase one of them used.”

The battle for control of King’s Landing, fictional Westeros’ seat of government, involves more than 200 ships and 100,000 combatants. It takes place on both land and sea.

To bring this to life, “GoT” built an 80-foot high battle set, complete with working castle walls and gates, in a quarry in Ireland. The episode was shot over the course of a month. (Hour-long dramas typically shoot an episode a week.)

Showrunners David Benioff and Dan Weiss had to beg HBO for extra cash to make the episode and pay for its visual effects.

“We went down on bended knee: ‘Just this once. Please,’ ” Benioff told EW.com.

“It was really a long conversation about how the second season all builds towards Blackwater. You know it’s coming from quite a ways off and for us to [have] all that build up and then have someone running in and saying, ‘The ships are in the bay!’ . . . felt like it was gonna be cheap if we did that.”

Fans would be the first to agree. “People have been waiting for this moment for eight episodes now,” Garcia says, adding that it would be “like having sex without the climax — it’s like, that’s it? Tyrion gets knocked in the head again and wakes up? It doesn’t really work.”

Among the things Garcia expects to see in “Blackwater” are wildfire (flames that can’t be doused with water) in action, a (conscious) Tyrion in the thick of battle and the “very psychological picture of Cersei as she deals with everything coming to an end.”

“The scale is going to be smaller,” he says, and they’re “changing little details to make it simpler, but my understanding is it’s still going to be very impressive to look at.”

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainment/tv/war_comes_to_tT2EDg5ybkh67o4F1Uhj2O#ixzz1vh7hENV7

 

[Brady Marino]

:confetti:

 

[Charlie Frown]

I really want to see more of the Jaime/Brienne dynamic. I think this combo has a chance to surpass Tyrion/Bronn and Arya/Tywin in odd couple greatness.

I know Brienne is supposed to be a stiff character but the actress playing her is over the top stiff. Almost uncomfortably stiff, will give her a chance as the character develops. Hopefully she pulls it off.

IMO, she is playing the char extremely well as compared to the book. Always came across as very stiff and trying to always be proper, etc. Sometimes to the point of absurdity. And as far as "odd couples" go, their relationship definitely fits that billing. I thought the canoe was an odd choice of vessel - couldn't Jamie just flip it, and take off? Seems like Brienne would have a hard time swimming while wearing her armor, while Jamie just has to worry about his hands being tied. Although I didn't see if they were tied or chained - if still chained that would be a bit more difficult to take off once free. Guess I had envisioned a more stable boat when reading than what was portrayed in the show.

Yup. Jaime asked her to unchain him so they could have a fair duel. I really like how he keeps calling her ugly. For some reason, it cracks me up.

So I suppose it'd be pretty tough for him to fend for himself all chained up, although it didn't seem to bother him the first time he took off. Although if we are to believe what Lady Stark said, she is sending him back as a trade for her daughters, so maybe he is content to trust that Brienne will get him there without killing him first.

Looked like his chains were belted at the waist. Not sure though.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

How is "budget constraints" thrown around with Game of Thrones so much?

The show is doing amazingly well, has really short seasons, and the budget looks to be pretty large (more than twice the size of The Walking Dead which has had a large handful of large "battle" scenes). Is it just the cast and sets that are so expensive?

It just seems weird that they keep building up Blackwater as the big battle that they haven't been able to show in the series yet due to budget constraints. They seem to be constantly using cheap budget saving trips like always putting Dany's dragons offscreen (how much does it cost to render 3 tiny little dragons?). Heck, they haven't even put out a simple CGI shot of Stannis' fleet (which would have been a great ending to the last episode) or anything that seems even remotely expensive from a CGI standpoint.

It just seems weird. Usually when you hear about budget constraints it's from a failing show that had to accept a cut to stay on the air. It's just crazy to me to hear so much about budget concerns on a show that's doing so well. Just give them the money, HBO!

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

How is "budget constraints" thrown around with Game of Thrones so much?The show is doing amazingly well, has really short seasons, and the budget looks to be pretty large (more than twice the size of The Walking Dead which has had a large handful of large "battle" scenes). Is it just the cast and sets that are so expensive?It just seems weird that they keep building up Blackwater as the big battle that they haven't been able to show in the series yet due to budget constraints. They seem to be constantly using cheap budget saving trips like always putting Dany's dragons offscreen (how much does it cost to render 3 tiny little dragons?). Heck, they haven't even put out a simple CGI shot of Stannis' fleet (which would have been a great ending to the last episode) or anything that seems even remotely expensive from a CGI standpoint.It just seems weird. Usually when you hear about budget constraints it's from a failing show that had to accept a cut to stay on the air. It's just crazy to me to hear so much about budget concerns on a show that's doing so well. Just give them the money, HBO!

well for starters the cast is huge. and 2nd they are all over the globe (well mostly Europe) shooting scenes and CGI is still not cheap. I would love to see what the series could have been with an unlimted budget, but they have done a great job IMO.

 

[EYLive]

How is "budget constraints" thrown around with Game of Thrones so much?The show is doing amazingly well, has really short seasons, and the budget looks to be pretty large (more than twice the size of The Walking Dead which has had a large handful of large "battle" scenes). Is it just the cast and sets that are so expensive?It just seems weird that they keep building up Blackwater as the big battle that they haven't been able to show in the series yet due to budget constraints. They seem to be constantly using cheap budget saving trips like always putting Dany's dragons offscreen (how much does it cost to render 3 tiny little dragons?). Heck, they haven't even put out a simple CGI shot of Stannis' fleet (which would have been a great ending to the last episode) or anything that seems even remotely expensive from a CGI standpoint.It just seems weird. Usually when you hear about budget constraints it's from a failing show that had to accept a cut to stay on the air. It's just crazy to me to hear so much about budget concerns on a show that's doing so well. Just give them the money, HBO!

Per wikipedia

Locations The walled city of Dubrovnik stands in for King's Landing in Season 2.For the second season, the city of Dubrovnik, Croatia, was used instead of Malta for scenes in King's Landing and elsewhere.[38] Scenes set north of the Wall were filmed in Iceland, on the Vatnajökull glacier, in November 2011.[39] New shooting locations in Northern Ireland include The Linen Mill Film & Television Studios, Banbridge, Ballintoy Harbour,[40] Gosford Castle, outside Markethill in County Armagh and at Downhill Strand.

I guess shooting on location would be very costly, plus they have a huge cast and tons of extras.The Walking Dead is much simpler in comparison.

 

[=Smackdown=]

How is "budget constraints" thrown around with Game of Thrones so much?The show is doing amazingly well, has really short seasons, and the budget looks to be pretty large (more than twice the size of The Walking Dead which has had a large handful of large "battle" scenes). Is it just the cast and sets that are so expensive?It just seems weird that they keep building up Blackwater as the big battle that they haven't been able to show in the series yet due to budget constraints. They seem to be constantly using cheap budget saving trips like always putting Dany's dragons offscreen (how much does it cost to render 3 tiny little dragons?). Heck, they haven't even put out a simple CGI shot of Stannis' fleet (which would have been a great ending to the last episode) or anything that seems even remotely expensive from a CGI standpoint.It just seems weird. Usually when you hear about budget constraints it's from a failing show that had to accept a cut to stay on the air. It's just crazy to me to hear so much about budget concerns on a show that's doing so well. Just give them the money, HBO!

Per wikipedia

Locations The walled city of Dubrovnik stands in for King's Landing in Season 2.For the second season, the city of Dubrovnik, Croatia, was used instead of Malta for scenes in King's Landing and elsewhere.[38] Scenes set north of the Wall were filmed in Iceland, on the Vatnajökull glacier, in November 2011.[39] New shooting locations in Northern Ireland include The Linen Mill Film & Television Studios, Banbridge, Ballintoy Harbour,[40] Gosford Castle, outside Markethill in County Armagh and at Downhill Strand.

I guess shooting on location would be very costly, plus they have a huge cast and tons of extras.The Walking Dead is much simpler in comparison.

Add in the fact that most of the batttle is on the water and the costs multiply.

 

[Charlie Frown]

Spoiler

I wonder if Tyrion will get his nose chopped off or just an ugly scar across his cheek or something?

 

[EYLive]

How is "budget constraints" thrown around with Game of Thrones so much?The show is doing amazingly well, has really short seasons, and the budget looks to be pretty large (more than twice the size of The Walking Dead which has had a large handful of large "battle" scenes). Is it just the cast and sets that are so expensive?It just seems weird that they keep building up Blackwater as the big battle that they haven't been able to show in the series yet due to budget constraints. They seem to be constantly using cheap budget saving trips like always putting Dany's dragons offscreen (how much does it cost to render 3 tiny little dragons?). Heck, they haven't even put out a simple CGI shot of Stannis' fleet (which would have been a great ending to the last episode) or anything that seems even remotely expensive from a CGI standpoint.It just seems weird. Usually when you hear about budget constraints it's from a failing show that had to accept a cut to stay on the air. It's just crazy to me to hear so much about budget concerns on a show that's doing so well. Just give them the money, HBO!

Per wikipedia

Locations The walled city of Dubrovnik stands in for King's Landing in Season 2.For the second season, the city of Dubrovnik, Croatia, was used instead of Malta for scenes in King's Landing and elsewhere.[38] Scenes set north of the Wall were filmed in Iceland, on the Vatnajökull glacier, in November 2011.[39] New shooting locations in Northern Ireland include The Linen Mill Film & Television Studios, Banbridge, Ballintoy Harbour,[40] Gosford Castle, outside Markethill in County Armagh and at Downhill Strand.

I guess shooting on location would be very costly, plus they have a huge cast and tons of extras.The Walking Dead is much simpler in comparison.

Add in the fact that most of the batttle is on the water and the costs multiply.

I hadn't even thought about the cost of renting some ships. A panned out view of a fleet can be CGI'd but they need a couple of real gallies to make it believeable.

 

[mad sweeney]

Spoiler

I wonder if Tyrion will get his nose chopped off or just an ugly scar across his cheek or something?

I'll go with b.

 

[3 out of 5]

How is "budget constraints" thrown around with Game of Thrones so much?

The show is doing amazingly well, has really short seasons, and the budget looks to be pretty large (more than twice the size of The Walking Dead which has had a large handful of large "battle" scenes). Is it just the cast and sets that are so expensive?

It just seems weird that they keep building up Blackwater as the big battle that they haven't been able to show in the series yet due to budget constraints. They seem to be constantly using cheap budget saving trips like always putting Dany's dragons offscreen (how much does it cost to render 3 tiny little dragons?). Heck, they haven't even put out a simple CGI shot of Stannis' fleet (which would have been a great ending to the last episode) or anything that seems even remotely expensive from a CGI standpoint.

It just seems weird. Usually when you hear about budget constraints it's from a failing show that had to accept a cut to stay on the air. It's just crazy to me to hear so much about budget concerns on a show that's doing so well. Just give them the money, HBO!

Don't forget that CGI is already
I think I read that the budget was doubled between season 1 and season 2, and that the series is a cash cow for HBO. I'm sure that despite all of that, there will always be bigger and better things that the producers and directors would want to do, but would be constrained by the budget from doing. The story is immense, and it is easy to see how it could be a money pit that you could throw an unlimited amount of money at.

I guess someone has to show restraint sometime...

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

How is "budget constraints" thrown around with Game of Thrones so much?

The show is doing amazingly well, has really short seasons, and the budget looks to be pretty large (more than twice the size of The Walking Dead which has had a large handful of large "battle" scenes). Is it just the cast and sets that are so expensive?

It just seems weird that they keep building up Blackwater as the big battle that they haven't been able to show in the series yet due to budget constraints. They seem to be constantly using cheap budget saving trips like always putting Dany's dragons offscreen (how much does it cost to render 3 tiny little dragons?). Heck, they haven't even put out a simple CGI shot of Stannis' fleet (which would have been a great ending to the last episode) or anything that seems even remotely expensive from a CGI standpoint.

It just seems weird. Usually when you hear about budget constraints it's from a failing show that had to accept a cut to stay on the air. It's just crazy to me to hear so much about budget concerns on a show that's doing so well. Just give them the money, HBO!

Don't forget that CGI is already

viewership is up big time this season too though. I bought season1 on dvd just to support the product.I wonder when the dragons are grown how much they will show?

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Reading on a kindle is a little tougher too, because its not easy to flip to the map or the glossary to check out the characters and how their families are related.

Yes. I didn't even know there was a helpful appendix until after I finished the first book and then stumbled upon it at the end.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Game of Thrones: a show that breaks the golden rules of television

Robert Colvile looks at why an epic fantasy series has gripped British viewers.

Recently, I’ve found that I can’t go for a pint without losing hours of my life. It’s not the booze. It’s that every time I go out, someone insists that I really should be watching some must-see television series or other.Homeland, The Bridge, Smash: my digi-box is bursting at the seams. Yet there’s one series, above all, that keeps coming up: Game of Thrones, HBO’s ultra-high-budget swords-and-sorcery epic, now midway through its second series on Sky Atlantic. All sorts of people – after mumbling about how fantasy normally isn’t their kind of thing – are confessing that they’re addicted.

What’s the secret? Partly, it’s the big-name cast: Sean Bean, Charles Dance, Roger Allam. Partly, the plot: a surprisingly realistic, adult exploration of political power, and the horrible things people do in pursuit of it (it’s no accident the show’s been called “The Sopranos in Middle Earth”). And partly because it’s packed with enough intrigue, nudity and bloodshed to make the Borgias look like the Waltons.

Yet there’s something else about Game of Thrones that I find especially fascinating: it breaks two of the most fundamental rules of television. The first is that George R R Martin, upon whose ongoing seven-book sequence the series is based, rejoices in doing horrible things to his characters, especially the ones you like. There’s no correlation between merit and reward, but plenty of abrupt reversals of fortune and sudden betrayals.

In the first season of the television adaptation, Bean, in the lead role, plays the paterfamilias of the Stark clan as a man of unflinching honour. He ends up with his head on a pike, and his family scattered and brutalised. (And trust me: it gets worse.)

More interesting than what the show does to the audience’s sympathies, however, is what it does to the structure of television itself. At the moment, it’s still at an early stage of the books, with only three or four narratives running simultaneously. That will soon change: Martin’s plots are relentlessly centrifugal, hurling the characters out of any comfort zone they might establish.

At the start of the series, the reader/viewer is led to believe that he will be following the story of Ned and his children as they try to unite the kingdom against a terrible, mystical threat from the frozen north. Instead, the protagonists are separated, thrown about the map like pinballs in a machine. Kings are toppled with clockwork regularity; new characters constantly appear. And this is what makes the television show such a fascinating experiment.

Every other series, whether it’s a critical darling like The West Wing or lowbrow pap such as Made in Chelsea, has a central, consistent core. It’s about the same group of people, usually in the same place, doing the same thing. When you switch on a serial such as CSI or EastEnders, you know you’ll be getting a slice of a recognisable formula, a cleverly constructed variation on a familiar theme.

Even in more sophisticated shows, the characters might grow and develop, or even die, but the story will still be framed as essentially that of a single family, or office, or town. The Wire tried, by changing its setting every season, to tell the story of a city. But it still kept a core of characters, and made sure to have a few moments of cohesion and reflection when the police would gather in a bar to celebrate or mourn.

Heroes, like Game of Thrones, featured a variety of characters spread across a continent. But there was always the reassurance that every year, the goodies and baddies would come together for a ratings-grabbing, dramatically cathartic finale.

Beneath the fantasy trappings, Game of Thrones is something altogether more ambitious: an attempt to tell the story not of a family, or even a country, but a world. Its episodes are chunks of a sprawling story told across thousands of pages of text. In trying to transfer that to the screen, without running up against the viewer’s inbuilt sense of what a television series should actually be, its creators are doing something more ambitious than many realise.

It will be fascinating to see whether they can keep their new fans with them – and whether anyone else will have the courage to follow in their footsteps.

 

[Bronx Bomber]

FWIW I just got the whole set(paperpacks) on Amazon for about $25. Cant beat that. I tried borrowing form the library but had to renew 3 times due to the length.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0345529057/ref=mp_s_a_4?qid=1337716575&sr=8-4

down to $20....Might be worth 20 beans

I apologize. This set only includes the first 4 books. I didn't realize there were 7 of them and thought this was the whole series.

 

[Maelstrom]

Episode 10 Valar Morghulis synopsis: The aftermath of the Battle of the Blackwater sees the winner reward his followers while Tyrion finds himself in a strange situation. In Winterfell, Maester Luwin has some final advice for Theon. In Harrenhall, Jaqen H'ghar gives Arya a gift, and Dany visits a wondrous place in Qarth. Beyond the Wall, Jon Snow pleases Qhorin with his actions. The episode 10 synopsis strongly indicates the HotU is in the finale. Also this website indicates that the season finale is 64 minutes while Blackwater is 57 minutes, making these two episodes the longest of the season.

Here's hoping that:

Spoiler

"Jon Snow pleases Qhorin" means "Jon Snow kills Qhorin at his bequest" (Roundabout way to get there.)

 

[Charlie Frown]

Episode 10 Valar Morghulis synopsis: The aftermath of the Battle of the Blackwater sees the winner reward his followers while Tyrion finds himself in a strange situation. In Winterfell, Maester Luwin has some final advice for Theon. In Harrenhall, Jaqen H'ghar gives Arya a gift, and Dany visits a wondrous place in Qarth. Beyond the Wall, Jon Snow pleases Qhorin with his actions. The episode 10 synopsis strongly indicates the HotU is in the finale. Also this website indicates that the season finale is 64 minutes while Blackwater is 57 minutes, making these two episodes the longest of the season.

Here's hoping that:

Spoiler

"Jon Snow pleases Qhorin" means "Jon Snow kills Qhorin at his bequest" (Roundabout way to get there.)

Here's opening that it isn't:

Spoiler

Jon Snow spooning Qhorin in the night.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

FWIW I just got the whole set(paperpacks) on Amazon for about $25. Cant beat that. I tried borrowing form the library but had to renew 3 times due to the length.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0345529057/ref=mp_s_a_4?qid=1337716575&sr=8-4

down to $20....Might be worth 20 beans

I apologize. This set only includes the first 4 books. I didn't realize there were 7 of them and thought this was the whole series.

There are currently 5 books. The latest is A Dance With Dragons. I'm not sure if it is in paperback yet. He is currently writing the 6th book. Who knows when that will come out or when book 7 will be started. Or if 7 books will even complete the set. Based on where the story is right now, I kind of feel like there are 3 books left making it 8 total. He wants 7 though (7 gods, 7 kingdoms etc. )

 

[Maelstrom]

Episode 10 Valar Morghulis synopsis: The aftermath of the Battle of the Blackwater sees the winner reward his followers while Tyrion finds himself in a strange situation. In Winterfell, Maester Luwin has some final advice for Theon. In Harrenhall, Jaqen H'ghar gives Arya a gift, and Dany visits a wondrous place in Qarth. Beyond the Wall, Jon Snow pleases Qhorin with his actions. The episode 10 synopsis strongly indicates the HotU is in the finale. Also this website indicates that the season finale is 64 minutes while Blackwater is 57 minutes, making these two episodes the longest of the season.

Here's hoping that:

Spoiler

"Jon Snow pleases Qhorin" means "Jon Snow kills Qhorin at his bequest" (Roundabout way to get there.)

Here's opening that it isn't:

Spoiler

Jon Snow spooning Qhorin in the night.

Maybe that comes first , leading to the events I refer to.

 

[3 out of 5]

Listen to The National’s new Lannister-happy song from The Game of Thrones soundtrack.

 

[Sabertooth]

Episode 10 Valar Morghulis synopsis: The aftermath of the Battle of the Blackwater sees the winner reward his followers while Tyrion finds himself in a strange situation. In Winterfell, Maester Luwin has some final advice for Theon. In Harrenhall, Jaqen H'ghar gives Arya a gift, and Dany visits a wondrous place in Qarth. Beyond the Wall, Jon Snow pleases Qhorin with his actions. The episode 10 synopsis strongly indicates the HotU is in the finale. Also this website indicates that the season finale is 64 minutes while Blackwater is 57 minutes, making these two episodes the longest of the season.

Here's hoping that:

Spoiler

"Jon Snow pleases Qhorin" means "Jon Snow kills Qhorin at his bequest" (Roundabout way to get there.)

Spoiler

I don't see how it is anything other than that.

 

[Chadstroma]

The Kingslayer gets some dang good lines..... Have you known many men? Women? Horses perhaps?

 

[Trey]

Cannot wait for tonight's episode.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Who's the young guy on the boat talking to Davos?

 

[Raider Nation]

Whoa...

 

[Raider Nation]

Who is more likeable ... King Joffrey or Tiger Woods?

 

[TLEF316]

what the #### just happened?!!

 

[The Ref]

Who is more likeable ... King Joffrey or Tiger Woods?

I'll take the Half Man any day of the week. What an awsome episode. might have been the best 1 hr of TV in ten years.

 

[Abrantes]

Who's the young guy on the boat talking to Davos?

His son. Showed up in one of the first episodes of the season too (the second, if I remember correctly), when Davos went off to talk to Salladhor Saan.Next episode should be amazing too.

 

[Apple Juice]

Obliteration of the fleet was breathtaking. Skipping on the battle scenes to save it up for this one was worth it. Wow.

 

[hotdogcollars]

In the immortal words of Lloyd Christmas...That...was...AWESOME

 

[The Ref]

I'm a touch disapointed. I figured this thread would be on fire after that episode.

30 min later and I'm still jazzed. Wow.

 

[Trey]

Question for book readers. Simple yes or no will do but I can't wait a week:

Spoiler

Is Tyrion dead? Would be the biggest loss thus far.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Question for book readers. Simple yes or no will do but I can't wait a week:

Spoiler

Is Tyrion dead? Would be the biggest loss thus far.

Spoiler

He's not dead.

 

[Balco]

I'm a touch disapointed. I figured this thread would be on fire after that episode.30 min later and I'm still jazzed. Wow.

Just an unbelievable hour of tv. What an episode.Didn't think it was possible to hate Joffrey any more. Or Cersai. It is obvious what they conspired to do.I remain really interested in the Hound. What is his deal? Can't figure it out. Next week's episode should be awesome.

 

[Mjolnirs]

I remain really interested in the Hound. What is his deal? Can't figure it out.

Remember, he is disfigured because his brother burned his face when he was younger. He doesn't like fire much.

 

[TLEF316]

So glad I'm watching the shows before I read the books. Tywin and Lloras showing up at the end was bad ###. (didn't catch that he was wearing Renly's armor at first. Went back and watched it a 2nd time after turning to the SOIAF wiki page)

Apparently....

Spoiler

a different tyrell wears the armor in the books. Will this change be important or did they just use Lloras because we know him already?

 

[shadyridr]

that speech by cersei while sitting on the throne to her son with the poison was great ####### drama. and that song at the end was perfect. half man better not be dead

 

[Mister Martie]

Just spectacular all around.

"Any man dies with a clean sword, I'll rape his ####### corpse!"

 

[gump]

It's tough to stage battle scenes on tv after what the big screen has done in the last 10 years....but that was impressive. The beginning to the battle with the arrow was epic.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

####### sweet. im geeked. sucks we have to wait 1 week. and then a whole year

 

[Abrantes]

Loved the acting and pacing this week. Cersei and Sansa were excellent, and they finally gave the Hound some decent time too.

That wildfire explosion was something else. Great way to set the tone. They really did a fantastic job turning the battle into a one-hour spectacle.

 

[Mile High]

The Rains of Castamere

 

[modogg]

Who's the young guy on the boat talking to Davos?

His son. Showed up in one of the first episodes of the season too (the second, if I remember correctly), when Davos went off to talk to Salladhor Saan.Next episode should be amazing too.

So does Davos live? i figure he isn't a main character so it won't ruin the story to know, right?

 

[Drifter]

What a great ####### show

 

[Raider Nation]

It's tough to stage battle scenes on tv after what the big screen has done in the last 10 years....but that was impressive. The beginning to the battle with the arrow was epic.

It's a little disappointing that all of the battle scenes are always shot in darkness, because it's hard to see everything you want to see. But it's understandable. First, most battles take place under cover of darkness. Secondly, it would require extraordinary choreography filming that in daylight.

 

[Chadstroma]

Who's the young guy on the boat talking to Davos?

His son.