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HBO - Song of Ice&Fire Series -Varsity Thread - no TV only whiners (4 Viewers)

'bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
Just watched the whole series again. Im going to pick up the entire series on QP on Tuesday. One thing I didnt like about the TV show - The death of King Robert. they didnt show anything just him coming back from the accident with the boar. Im sure there was some plotting by the gay duo and they are saving it. And also when a King dies isnt there some kind of big funeral? All in all the best fantasy genre thing I have seen. LOTR is so wimpy compared to this, great an all, but this scrathes me right where I itch, and I still play Magic and D&D! :nerd: I also havent read a fanstasy series since the Drow Elf stuff by RA Salvatore and the Dragonlance first 6 books. So Im ready
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After my initial excitement with LOTR and its quality, I have been bored to snot by it upon many attempted repeat viewings.
 
'bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
One thing I didnt like about the TV show - The death of King Robert. they didnt show anything just him coming back from the accident with the boar. Im sure there was some plotting by the gay duo and they are saving it. And also when a King dies isnt there some kind of big funeral?
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Remained faithful to the book. Exactly the way that it happened in the book, with the reader first finding out what happened when Ned found out, and no mention of any funeral. Way too much stuff going on to go back to what happened to the King's body.
 
'Drifter said:
'bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
Just watched the whole series again. Im going to pick up the entire series on QP on Tuesday. One thing I didnt like about the TV show - The death of King Robert. they didnt show anything just him coming back from the accident with the boar. Im sure there was some plotting by the gay duo and they are saving it. And also when a King dies isnt there some kind of big funeral? All in all the best fantasy genre thing I have seen. LOTR is so wimpy compared to this, great an all, but this scrathes me right where I itch, and I still play Magic and D&D! :nerd: I also havent read a fanstasy series since the Drow Elf stuff by RA Salvatore and the Dragonlance first 6 books. So Im ready
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After my initial excitement with LOTR and its quality, I have been bored to snot by it upon many attempted repeat viewings.
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Same here. Love the books as a kid, and don't even feel like I can watch the movies anymore. (Having said that, I'm sure I'll still go see The Hobbit.)
 
'SmoovySmoov said:
'Drifter said:
'bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
Just watched the whole series again. Im going to pick up the entire series on QP on Tuesday. One thing I didnt like about the TV show - The death of King Robert. they didnt show anything just him coming back from the accident with the boar. Im sure there was some plotting by the gay duo and they are saving it. And also when a King dies isnt there some kind of big funeral? All in all the best fantasy genre thing I have seen. LOTR is so wimpy compared to this, great an all, but this scrathes me right where I itch, and I still play Magic and D&D! :nerd: I also havent read a fanstasy series since the Drow Elf stuff by RA Salvatore and the Dragonlance first 6 books. So Im ready
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After my initial excitement with LOTR and its quality, I have been bored to snot by it upon many attempted repeat viewings.
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Same here. Love the books as a kid, and don't even feel like I can watch the movies anymore. (Having said that, I'm sure I'll still go see The Hobbit.)
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Randall in Clerks2 was kinda right, bunch a dudes walking around and nothing happens.I still like it and its kinda like star wars for me, if its on TV and nothing else like NFL is on I will watch it.
 
'SmoovySmoov said:
'bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
One thing I didnt like about the TV show - The death of King Robert. they didnt show anything just him coming back from the accident with the boar. Im sure there was some plotting by the gay duo and they are saving it. And also when a King dies isnt there some kind of big funeral?
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Remained faithful to the book. Exactly the way that it happened in the book, with the reader first finding out what happened when Ned found out, and no mention of any funeral. Way too much stuff going on to go back to what happened to the King's body.
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Interesting, so the series is going into the next book in the spring on HBO correct?
 
'Uruk-Hai said:
'Buckna said:
'Buckna said:
Thanks to the True Blood premier there was a weekend of free HBO all weekend and I was able to catch up on all the episodes. Gotta say they did a great job with the series. Even the few "extra" new scenes they added that weren't in the books were very well done and served to illuminate many of the characters and their motivations. I particularily enjoyed I think 2 different "chats" between Littlefinger & Varys, the 2 puppetmasters behind the scenes.Hard part now is waiting. I stopped myself reading the series after book 2 so I could space it out in case book 6 takes another 5 years, but I don't know if I'll be able to resist any longer.
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Started Storm of Swords a few days ago. :bag: I think I can already guess what character/chapter it is everyone keeps talking about in this book, but knowing Martin I am probably way off.
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I'm jealous of you first-time readers. I've never had a book/series make me throw the damned thing across the room except this one. Have fun & keep plenty of whiskey handy - you may need it.
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Finished ASOS on Tuesday, read most of it over the holiday weekend. Outstanding book, really makes me wish it was 3 years from now and I could see how they are going to film certain things for the tv show. But yeah, totally guessed the character/chapter, the foreshadowing is pretty heavy and very sad/infuriating when you finally make it there. That being said, it's amazing how Martin can make some events very obvious to the reader and others he can totally pull the wool over your eyes and surprise you.Think I will hold off on A Feast for Crows until the paperback for A Dance With Dragons is out and cheap. From all the commentary that I have read, those 2 probably will need to be read back to back to get the most out of them.
 
'TeamDingo said:
Unsure if Season 2 casting is a spoiler or not?

Brienne and Asha Greyjoy(now Yara) have been cast.http://www.spotlight.com/interactive/cv/F91694.htmlhttp://www.spotlight.com/interactive/cv/F90159.html
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dont remember asha being in the books until the 4th one.
 
'Fiddles said:
'TeamDingo said:
Unsure if Season 2 casting is a spoiler or not?

Brienne and Asha Greyjoy(now Yara) have been cast.http://www.spotlight.com/interactive/cv/F91694.htmlhttp://www.spotlight.com/interactive/cv/F90159.html
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dont remember asha being in the books until the 4th one.
Nope - she's in book #2 in Theon's chapters when he arrives at the Iron Islands. She also shows up at Winterfell in book #2.
 
Man, Clash of Kings is great. I love how most things are just plain non-formulatic. Some things are kind of foreshadowed but even those things end up with some type of twist. I like that I'm kept on my toes.

 
'Uruk-Hai said:
'Fiddles said:
'TeamDingo said:
Unsure if Season 2 casting is a spoiler or not?

Brienne and Asha Greyjoy(now Yara) have been cast.http://www.spotlight.com/interactive/cv/F91694.htmlhttp://www.spotlight.com/interactive/cv/F90159.html
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dont remember asha being in the books until the 4th one.
Nope - she's in book #2 in Theon's chapters when he arrives at the Iron Islands. She also shows up at Winterfell in book #2.
I really like the casting for Asha. She's the only Greyjoy I actually like in the books, and she looks exactly like I pictured her. Bri is too good looking though. I know it's probably not easy to cast for "freakishly large, ugly woman", but hopefully they can makeup the fugly on her. I do like that she is listed at 6' 3" though. They got that part right.
 
So I ordered the books on July 1st from Amazon. They are telling me they will ship on July 12th and I should receive them sometime from the 15th - 18th.

WTF is that all about? I have sent 2 emails to Amazon and I ma getting the runaround. I have had very, very good experiences with Amazon and I cant think of anything that has taken more than a week to be delivered to my front door, What the hell is with the delay on these books?

 
'the moops said:
So I ordered the books on July 1st from Amazon. They are telling me they will ship on July 12th and I should receive them sometime from the 15th - 18th.WTF is that all about? I have sent 2 emails to Amazon and I ma getting the runaround. I have had very, very good experiences with Amazon and I cant think of anything that has taken more than a week to be delivered to my front door, What the hell is with the delay on these books?
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What did you order? The first 4 as a group? Did you include the new book coming out Tuesday? And did you set your order to ship in total (as opposed to piecemeal)?The new book - A Dance With Dragons - doesn't release until Tuesday so if you ordered all 5 books and had "send in one shipment" checked, maybe they're holding the order until the 12th. That's one possibility.Another is that A Game Of Thrones (1st book in the series) is #1 on the NYT list. Sounds silly, but maybe they ran out?Like you, I've always had good luck with Amazon and in fact have gotten the majority of my orders earlier than the posted ship date. I'm guessing it's some combination the two possibilities I listed above. I would order the first 4 as a group (I think Amazon's selling them for $15-20) and Dance separately.
 
Damn I cannot put Clash of Kings down even as I sense

that Robb is about to get totally ####ed thinking Theon is going to attack Lannisport whereas he is actually going to get there a find a full force, only to be squeezed from the east by Tywin, pushed up from the South by Stannis (or at least not really being able to flee that way) and capped in the north by Theon's grimey ###. I'm just constantly on the edge of anger. I have some predictions, but I don't even want to post them anymore because even as something seems to be transpiring, something random happens that is so non-formulatic it throws the whole story off. Maybe that's why I like this so much. I've gotten so good over time to see what's coming in TV, movies, and books, anymore. But here, there is no formula, other than "you never know" pretty much.
 
'Leeroy Jenkins said:
Damn I cannot put Clash of Kings down even as I sense

that Robb is about to get totally ####ed thinking Theon is going to attack Lannisport whereas he is actually going to get there a find a full force, only to be squeezed from the east by Tywin, pushed up from the South by Stannis (or at least not really being able to flee that way) and capped in the north by Theon's grimey ###. I'm just constantly on the edge of anger. I have some predictions, but I don't even want to post them anymore because even as something seems to be transpiring, something random happens that is so non-formulatic it throws the whole story off. Maybe that's why I like this so much. I've gotten so good over time to see what's coming in TV, movies, and books, anymore. But here, there is no formula, other than "you never know" pretty much.
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I've never been so pissed at a book before than I was reading the Catielyn and Theon chapters (53/54)then the relief at the end of 54
 
'Uruk-Hai said:
'the moops said:
So I ordered the books on July 1st from Amazon. They are telling me they will ship on July 12th and I should receive them sometime from the 15th - 18th.WTF is that all about? I have sent 2 emails to Amazon and I ma getting the runaround. I have had very, very good experiences with Amazon and I cant think of anything that has taken more than a week to be delivered to my front door, What the hell is with the delay on these books?
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What did you order? The first 4 as a group? Did you include the new book coming out Tuesday? And did you set your order to ship in total (as opposed to piecemeal)?The new book - A Dance With Dragons - doesn't release until Tuesday so if you ordered all 5 books and had "send in one shipment" checked, maybe they're holding the order until the 12th. That's one possibility.Another is that A Game Of Thrones (1st book in the series) is #1 on the NYT list. Sounds silly, but maybe they ran out?Like you, I've always had good luck with Amazon and in fact have gotten the majority of my orders earlier than the posted ship date. I'm guessing it's some combination the two possibilities I listed above. I would order the first 4 as a group (I think Amazon's selling them for $15-20) and Dance separately.
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Thanks. This was the issue. They told me this in the email I got back from them this morning. Kind of strange that their first 2 responses didn't mention the bundling of the order.
 
Good god

I switched the shipping method so as to split the 4 part series and new release so I could get the others faster. Geo an email tonight, that A Dance with Dragons has shipped, yet the other 4 are still "shipping soon".

This is annoying.

 
So I'm maybe 100 pages away from the end of Clash of Kings. Hmmmmm

. #### THEON. even though it seems he didn't actually kill bran, rickon, summer, and shaggy. #### THEON WITH A WAR HAMMER
 
'Matthias said:
'EYLive said:
Are all of the books equally good?
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No.The first one is really good as is the second one. I hated the fourth one and don't remember enough about the third one to have an opinion. Supposedly the fifth one is like the fourth.
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The third book is the shizzle.Basically, major plot devices are set up in the first two books -- on a grand scale, and since we're talking about GRRM, we're talking about dozens upon dozens of different characters -- and then all frigging heck bursts forth in the third book. It's amazing.Probably why so many people didn't like Feasts very much. In addition to it essentially being a half a book and all.I'm about 1/6 of the way through Dance and it's making its run for the best book in the series. Definitely at least runner-up.
 
Game of Thrones Emmy Nominations:

Best Drama Series

Best Supporting Actor (Dinklage)

Best Writing (Baelor)

Best Directing (Winter is Coming - Pilot)

And perhaps most importantly: Best Main Title Design!

 
'JGalligan said:
'Matthias said:
'EYLive said:
Are all of the books equally good?
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No.The first one is really good as is the second one. I hated the fourth one and don't remember enough about the third one to have an opinion. Supposedly the fifth one is like the fourth.
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The third book is the shizzle.Basically, major plot devices are set up in the first two books -- on a grand scale, and since we're talking about GRRM, we're talking about dozens upon dozens of different characters -- and then all frigging heck bursts forth in the third book. It's amazing.Probably why so many people didn't like Feasts very much. In addition to it essentially being a half a book and all.I'm about 1/6 of the way through Dance and it's making its run for the best book in the series. Definitely at least runner-up.
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Just started all the books after the series ended and I have two chapters left in Storm of Swords (a Sansa chapter and an Epilogue) and it is the best of the first three in my mind. I know I am going to start feast of crows as soon it is done but but I am a bit surprised to learn that some major characters don't even appear in the book. Especially some of the best characters in the book in my mind.
 
Got mine yesterday too. Finished rereading feast last night and read the first 2 chapters of dance. Funny the ending note on feast says to expect dance next year signed george rr martin 2005 good times.

 
'JGalligan said:
'Matthias said:
'EYLive said:
Are all of the books equally good?
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No.The first one is really good as is the second one. I hated the fourth one and don't remember enough about the third one to have an opinion. Supposedly the fifth one is like the fourth.
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The third book is the shizzle.Basically, major plot devices are set up in the first two books -- on a grand scale, and since we're talking about GRRM, we're talking about dozens upon dozens of different characters -- and then all frigging heck bursts forth in the third book. It's amazing.Probably why so many people didn't like Feasts very much. In addition to it essentially being a half a book and all.I'm about 1/6 of the way through Dance and it's making its run for the best book in the series. Definitely at least runner-up.
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I'm almost done with Clash of Kings. I really like it, but not as much as Thrones. I miss Ned I think and the mystery. I do feel though that Kings is just a long set up rather than really concluding anything, although as I said, I haven't completed the book just yet.
 
'Fiddles said:
Got mine yesterday too. Finished rereading feast last night and read the first 2 chapters of dance. Funny the ending note on feast says to expect dance next year signed george rr martin 2005 good times.
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And there are how many books after Dragons to finish the series supposedly?
 
'Leeroy Jenkins said:
'Fiddles said:
Got mine yesterday too. Finished rereading feast last night and read the first 2 chapters of dance. Funny the ending note on feast says to expect dance next year signed george rr martin 2005 good times.
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And there are how many books after Dragons to finish the series supposedly?
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2. The Winds of Winter and A Dream of Spring are the supposed titles.
 
'parrot said:
'Leeroy Jenkins said:
'Fiddles said:
Got mine yesterday too. Finished rereading feast last night and read the first 2 chapters of dance. Funny the ending note on feast says to expect dance next year signed george rr martin 2005 good times.
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And there are how many books after Dragons to finish the series supposedly?
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2. The Winds of Winter and A Dream of Spring are the supposed titles.
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o/u 2017?
 
'PIK95 said:
'parrot said:
'Leeroy Jenkins said:
'Fiddles said:
Got mine yesterday too. Finished rereading feast last night and read the first 2 chapters of dance. Funny the ending note on feast says to expect dance next year signed george rr martin 2005 good times.
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And there are how many books after Dragons to finish the series supposedly?
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2. The Winds of Winter and A Dream of Spring are the supposed titles.
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o/u 2017?
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Over, and not close. I'd guess 2022 :mellow:
 
'Moe. said:
'Colts Win said:
Im torn but leaning towards reading the books and. Not waiting for the shows. But I enjoyed the show so much I'd hate to ruin it.
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Read the books. You'll know the plot, yes, but I'd be willing to bet you'll enjoy the show even more.
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Yeah. I'd say it would be the other way around and you wouldn't want to read the books after watching the show first. It's a treat to look forward to seeing how they'll pull off certain scenes from the books.
A la, the Battle of the Blackwater from CoK. That should be pretty sweet.
 
Just got my set of the first 4 books and enjoying Thrones so far. I'm enjoying reading a few chapters, then watching the corresponding episode. I'd probably be pretty lost right now without the show due to the amount of characters thrown at you.

I can definitely see now why Sansa is less liked by the readers! I also didn't appreciate the attitude Jon gets from Catelyn. :rant:

 
'JGalligan said:
'Moe. said:
'Colts Win said:
Im torn but leaning towards reading the books and. Not waiting for the shows. But I enjoyed the show so much I'd hate to ruin it.
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Read the books. You'll know the plot, yes, but I'd be willing to bet you'll enjoy the show even more.
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Yeah. I'd say it would be the other way around and you wouldn't want to read the books after watching the show first. It's a treat to look forward to seeing how they'll pull off certain scenes from the books.
A la, the Battle of the Blackwater from CoK. That should be pretty sweet.
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That's probably true. I'm think I don't want to read the first book since I saw the show.
 
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