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Yeah, I got the first book and have begun reading it. However, I won't move ahead. I'd prefer to see the show first because from my perspective it is a show first and book second. The book supplements the show with more backstory and an interesting use of pov. However, it would feel like cheating to read ahead.
Yeah, I got the first book and have begun reading it. However, I won't move ahead. I'd prefer to see the show first because from my perspective it is a show first and book second. The book supplements the show with more backstory and an interesting use of pov. However, it would feel like cheating to read ahead.
Yeah, I'd just assume she obviously hates her life with her brother (for obvious reasons). I would assume she hopes that this home her brother speaks of would allow her to socialize with some people other than her creepy brother. A chance for some power and freedom.
She frequently remembers/equates memories of a red door to her original home in the Seven Kingdoms. I think it's actually mentioned in all of the books thus far. Very briefly, though.
Agreed. HBO did a good job with the first book, but there's no way an 8 hour televised version can compete with reading the books. Knowing the plot lines before you read the book would significantly detract from the experience IMO.
That home was in Braavos, not on the continent. Dany was spirited away from Dragonstone by Ser Willem Darry shortly after her birth.
Ah yeah, you're right. Good eye, good eye!
In the book Dany is 13 and was driven out 14 years ago not 17. She has no memory of Dragonstone, were she was born. She was raised throughout the Free Cities and never spent much time in any one place.
I read somewhere that the Targaryens (or maybe just the royal lineage of that race) practiced incest to keep the dragon blood line pure. Whether or not she reclaims the throne for her people, do you think she would feel pressured to seek out other Targaryens to mate with?
Yeah, I got the first book and have begun reading it. However, I won't move ahead. I'd prefer to see the show first because from my perspective it is a show first and book second. The book supplements the show with more backstory and an interesting use of pov. However, it would feel like cheating to read ahead.Just read the book and then decide whether your should read ahead.
'Charlie Frown said:
I can only hope they do it justice.I'm a little over halfway through A Dance With Dragons now.
she was just a "quickening" in her mother's womb (per the book) when they fled.
The books explain that her brother (Viserys) told her tons about Westeros and their rightful home, though most of it was skewed by his unique perspective. In addition, the books Mopatis/Mormont gave her as a wedding gift were mainly histories/stories of Westeros and things to do with the Targaeryans.
They'll definitely have to make some interesting choices in what they actually depict. Given the richness/volume of Martin's writing it's left me concerned that the show has added a character and several scenes that weren't even in the books, which then requires even more stuff from the books to be left out. I realize they need to find ways to do exposition on screen that came via internal dialogue in the books (and boy is there a lot of that in the books), but I wonder if they couldn't have figured a way to do it a bit more in context with what's actually written instead of introducing new material.
They'll definitely have to make some interesting choices in what they actually depict. Given the richness/volume of Martin's writing it's left me concerned that the show has added a character and several scenes that weren't even in the books, which then requires even more stuff from the books to be left out. I realize they need to find ways to do exposition on screen that came via internal dialogue in the books (and boy is there a lot of that in the books), but I wonder if they couldn't have figured a way to do it a bit more in context with what's actually written instead of introducing new material.There is a link earlier in the thread to an interview with the show runners basically admitting they have to change some things for season 2 and move different scenes from the other books in and show things only alluded to in dialogue.
name different from the book?
I'm about 2/3 the through the 2nd book and its awesome. I'm thinking season 2 will be better that the first.
Same here. Not happy at all about thatI just found out that I missed a chance to see Martin speak on Friday
Did they explain why they went so far afield with their changes to the Renly character? I just don't understand that turn of poetic license, not that it's a huge deal, just seemed unnecessary and purposeless.Martin said he always intended for them to be gay. Perhaps the writers and producers thought it would be shocking and pushing the envelope (as HBO likes to do) to expound a bit on their romance. Its like 15:1 on the nude chicks to naked guy scenes so as a straight guy I can't really complain about that ratio there.That would explain that part of it. Thanks for that. They also cast him smaller of stature and generally wimpier than I took away from the books where he's portrayed as very similar to Robert when he was Renly's age.
Did they explain why they went so far afield with their changes to the Renly character? I just don't understand that turn of poetic license, not that it's a huge deal, just seemed unnecessary and purposeless.Martin said he always intended for them to be gay. Perhaps the writers and producers thought it would be shocking and pushing the envelope (as HBO likes to do) to expound a bit on their romance. Its like 15:1 on the nude chicks to naked guy scenes so as a straight guy I can't really complain about that ratio there.I didn't pick up on this during my first reading of the series, but Martin definitely hinted at this in multiple places throughout the books. Rereading the series after seeing the Renly in the series, a few things really jump out at you.
Such an awesome character.
AFFC was my least favorite of the first 4 books...It loses the thread a little bit, with two of the three main story arcs both not being as interesting to me as the arcs started in books one and two. That said, it picks up near the end (as almost all of this series' books do IMO)ADWD is supposed to be a companion piece to AFFC, and I am hoping that by the end of it things will be clearerThen we just have to wait 5 years for Book 6!
I am about 2/3rds of the way done with ADWD and just now the book catches up with a AFFC. Problems with AFFC is some major pieces of the story are not covered at all and it is a book driven by entirely new characters or characters that are tough to love.
Yeah, GRRM pretty clearly let his timeline get away from him a bit
He is only saying "It will be done when it's done." He apparently learned his lesson.
This is my issue. I thought I was just starting to really understand all the players and the direction the series was going after I finished Storm.
